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Author Topic: Cw activity will die after 2037  (Read 11816 times)
KA1BIN
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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2012, 12:24:51 AM »

So in 2037 when I am 80 years old and I find myself half-naked stranded on a South Seas Island with only a flashlight..... what should I use the flashlight for?

Unless of course if in 25 years...


...sea level rise puts that island awash.

Forgot about that.
Then again...

According to at least TWO BIG unnamed experts, the world is going to end next month.

Steve
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ZL1BBW
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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2012, 01:08:44 AM »

Depends if its a "wanted" island, you may have to flash and get supplies dropped in.

In 2037 I will be very old, well older than I am now, and I would not mind betting that a lot of us will still be sat around here, arguing when when CW is going to go QRT.

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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2012, 05:18:53 AM »


In 2037 I will be very old, well older than I am now, and I would not mind betting that a lot of us will still be sat around here, arguing when CW is going to go QRT.



technology will probably make communicating too easy, and we will all thank goodness we have radios, keys, and that we learned code.
it is funny how common it is to hear 'copy that' as handheld radio protocol at work for successful reception of a communication.  Noone is actually copying it down on paper anymore though.  long live CW!  dit dit
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KA1BIN
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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2012, 02:43:45 PM »

I have lived through many such...... it will die after...,

Phonograph records will die.
That's why in many countries in Europe new recordings are released on CD and 33 1/3 rpm phonograph records.
The Germans especially love them scratchy  records. Almost all of the Chinese record changers and turntables that
are produced in China nowadays are shipped to Europe.

Reel to Reel tape recorders will die.
Thats why most of the German Reel to Reel manufactuers are still producing new models,
most of them over $1000 USD. Nothing like recording and listening to good music at 15 ips
with no Nyquist problems.

It seems that every new generation "predicts" the demise of something. Christ, Wayne Green
of 73 Magazine was predicitng the demise of CW almost 35 years ago. Now 35 years later
we still hear these new "soothsayers".

Got to cut this short, reading an old Popular Science magazine from the 50's telling us how by 1980
we all are going to be flying to work each day in our own personal airplane, helicopter, or rocketship.

Steve
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KD4AL
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2012, 04:55:30 PM »

I truly believe that CW as we know it will still be around and fairly robust. However, I fear that we may occupy that same slice of society now populated by Civil War reenactors, an enthusiastic, living anachronism.  Yet, I will still be pounding brass and using my Vibroplex Original as long as my hands can drive them.
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2012, 01:25:16 PM »

I truly believe that CW as we know it will still be around and fairly robust. However, I fear that we may occupy that same slice of society now populated by Civil War reenactors, an enthusiastic, living anachronism.  Yet, I will still be pounding brass and using my Vibroplex Original as long as my hands can drive them.
KD4AL

Most people already call me an enthusiastic living anachronism - I don't have to wait till 2037!
Looking back I see I was always only one step ahead of being replaced by technology my entire life.
I guess this is something which is endemic to everyone in society these days.

73 - Rob
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2012, 04:50:46 AM »


Most people already call me an enthusiastic living anachronism - I don't have to wait till 2037!
Looking back I see I was always only one step ahead of being replaced by technology my entire life.
I guess this is something which is endemic to everyone in society these days.

73 - Rob

Yes, you have a point: Only one step ahead....

Question is who is to blame:your educators as a young guy or your character you are born with. Probably both due to the inhereted DNA.

You are at an age you can decide for yourself what the answer will be. I am not interested in the answer, because it will certainly have   the color of the feathers of my rooster or of the uniform with sticks of color coded resistors and tin medals of an "VIP"army man, he is so proud of having them, he even get married in it.
  
Just like Morse code: best time of your life to learn it proficiently is at young age. The age that you adapt easily math, chemistry and physics, adapting and exercising the accompanying way of problem solving thinking that is fruitfull and productive,

You pretty easy collect at that age your MSc and PhD.

When you have the brains, and don't use them because laziness , girls, cars and games are more interesting, you  arrive at a position you are only one step ahead of the people/jobs eating monster, and only his hot breath keeps you running fast enough not to be swallowed.

Whole your life only one step ahead.

Sure not a position to teach others how to live. But characteristic and confirming, for trying to do that.

Bob
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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2012, 04:32:14 PM »

Hi Bob, nice to see you are still around.

One step ahead is the right place to be for those who have the stomach for it.
Chaos theory shows us there are stable places where change has stopped, and chaotic places where nothing can be predicted.
But the area between the two - that twilight area between stagnation and chaos - that is where the fun really can be found.

Take casino's - they make huge profits from being only one small step ahead.
They know the small odds in their favour will, in time, give them huge profits from many people who think they can beat statistics.
The 00 green on the roulette wheel is enough to make sure the house wins, even in a red/black doubling scenario.
Arbitrage is making money from small discrepancies which are transient and only last a short time.
You have to be on the edge of chaos to see and take advantage of these phenomena.

I live my life by my own rules, and so I prosper and am happy.
When you seek stability and live by the rules others make up, you will always be a slave to them and society as a whole.
Your life will be full of anxiety and looking over your shoulder.
I have never felt the breath of the jobs eating monster in my entire life, because I see it coming and simply step out of the way.

A job is simply a transaction where we give up some hours of our life for a certain amount of cash.
We are not defined by our job, any more than wearing an Armani suit makes us Giorgio Armani.

We were all born free in will, and it is up to each one of us whether we give this up to others, or hold fast to it.
Remember, each one of us is unique - a one of a kind model - that makes us each priceless.

73 - Rob
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2012, 09:53:31 PM »

Cw can`t die,it`s what made Ten Tec and Elecraft famous!   Wink
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K9AIM
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« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2012, 07:04:27 AM »

what we ought to do, is make CW operation above 40 meters only allowed if you hold a General and above 20 meters only allowed if you hold an Extra.  Problem with that is practically everyone would then discover how great CW is and it would be pretty crowded LOL
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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2012, 04:58:55 AM »

You all have it wrong. It will die after 2037 because by then, Obama and Obamacare will figure out the connection between ham radio operators and carpal tunnel syndrome. They will tax those who do CW to help pay for the health insurance costs for the carpal tunnel surgeries....

 Wink Cheesy Grin Shocked Roll Eyes
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2012, 06:43:08 AM »

Stand down from red alert, the party of obstruction has let Obama do very little.  The legislative branch is the one that passes budgets, tax cuts, and new laws like the affordable care act.

If Obama were one fifth as powerful as the right likes to pretend, we would have a decent public option for Americans of all ages -- not all that different from medicare.  Wink  Despite all the false characterizations of what Obama stands for by Fox Noise and shout radio -- American voters chose a moderate liberal over a guy who wanted to increase corporate welfare for big corporations.  Unfortunately there is still a House full of corporate interests disguised as 'representatives' of the people. 

Fortunately CW does not get into political banter much -- perhaps CW op.s are more aware that liberals and conservatives are two parts of a whole and that neither side has a sizeable advantage over the other side when it comes to intelligence or stupidity.

if you want to continue political banter about this please take it offline and PM or email me.

dit dit.

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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2012, 01:36:02 AM »

Oh - I don't think so.  Even in an age of concert quality music pouring out of our computers, iPods and other products, some of us still play musical instruments for the sheer joy of it.  Morse is much the same.


>de Ray
W7asa ..._ ._

Spot on Ray...

 de N0BOE - An Oboist... My vanity call is a combination of my music and radio hobbies. Of course my computer can generate CW and music much better than I ever will, but that doesn't stop me from perusing either.

I don't think CW is going anywhere until the FCC decides it's too much work to enforce Part 97 and turns a blind eye to what would be rapidly evolving anarchy on our bands... Hopefully our self-policing nature will ensure this never happens, but seems that there's already plenty of pirate and licensed hams that violate plenty of regulations with nothing being done, so maybe the end is closer than I first thought... Scary thought, I've been a ham since 11 years old, nearly 17 years ago now, and I'm quite looking forward to a whole lifetime full of radio, I hope we don't go the way of the dodo CB...
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