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Author Topic: The new Argonaut VI  (Read 18137 times)
AE5X
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« on: December 18, 2012, 10:46:31 AM »

Some here may be interested in Ten-Tec's newest QRP offering:
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2012/12/18/inverse-mono-banders/

 Grin

John AE5X
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W4KYR
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2012, 01:29:22 PM »

I guess TT feels that QRP not only means less power...but also less frequencies too? By the way I found some interesting things about the new radio.

NO 12 meter band
NO AM transmit. Requires Opt. filter to xmit.....$125
NO Microphone it is Optional...........................$39
NO General coverage Receiver
NO AM Broadcast Band
Proprietary (?) USB Sound Card & Cable.............$75


At $995 for Argonaut VI, it seems pricy. The Elecraft KX3 sounds like a much better deal for its given features.  If Ten Tec dropped the price in half to say $500 or $600. Then included the mic and tossed in a built in tuner and/or battery pack then I think it would be worth it.

The proprietary(?) built in sound card & cable seems reasonable for $75. But suppose you want to use your Signalink with this? Can you just buy the cable? Or do you have to buy the whole sound card cable?

OK who needs a general coverage receiver? But why exclude it when other radios such as the FT817 has it 'out of the box' and cost much less? Even the discontinued Icom 703 seemed to have more features for the money than the Argonaut VI does. Does the Ten Tec does have a better receiver than the 817, 703 or the KX3 ?

The lack of the AM broadcast band might be important to someone if they are using the radio on battery power out in the field during an emergency situation. Perhaps during some weather related disaster such as a flood or a tornado and need to switch to the local AM stations for information.


"Frequency Range RX: 1.795-2.505 (160M), 3.495-5.005 (80M),
6.995-7.305 (40M), 9.995-10.155 (30M), 13.995-15.005 (20M), 18.063-18.173 (17M), 20.995-21.455 (15M), 27.995-29.705 (10M)"

 "OPTIONS
4 Pole Roofing Filters 700 Hz, 6 kHz
702 Dynamic Mic
418 Solid State 100 Watt Linear Amplifier
712 Digital USB Sound Card Cable"
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 03:56:06 PM »

W4kyr,

Makes great points!

Very disappointing!
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W9GB
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 05:44:54 PM »

Ten Tec model 539
Argonaut VI QRP 1-10 Watt Transceiver (Ten Tec product page)
http://www.tentec.com/products/Argonaut-VI-QRP-1%252d10-Watt-Transceiver.html

New Speed Sensitive VFO tuning rate
New 9.5-14 VDC power requirements
Dynamic Range of 91dB @ 2 kHz
1-10 Watt adjustable power output
Built in Curtis Mode A or B keying
Keying output for 100 Watt Solid State Linear amplifier Model 418
Operate digital modes with full rated output
Legendary Ten-Tec quality QSK CW keying
Standard 2.9 kHz Roofing Filter Included (2.5kHz effective through DSP)
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WA2TPU
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 07:25:44 PM »

The 2 beta testers I happened to talk to on 40 told me they like the Argonaut VI. Pretty gud receiver in them with no ringing down at the lowest filtering. I'm considering one seriously. I just wish they were a tad cheaper than $995.00.
Thanks to all who posted on the Argonaut VI.
Best regards and many 72/73.
Don sr. --WA2TPU --
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W8VVE
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 08:57:48 AM »

I'll stick with the Argo-V....up to 20 watts...extended receive...and costs less.
73...Sam W8VVE
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K1WJ
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 12:36:24 PM »

This radio at $995 is way too much money - does not come with a mic - Ten-Tec, this is a joke. $750 tops with mic - let's get real. 73 David
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WA2TPU
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2012, 01:03:38 PM »

To K1WJ....
Dave I agree with you that the price is a tad too high( at least for me) for the Argonaut VI...but its no joke. I just went on Ten Tec's web-page and obviously they've completely sold out ALL of the Argonaut VI's because they will not be available until mid January on the next production run- so stated on their Argonaut VI's page. So, evidently Dave the ham community is buying them even at the $995.00 with no microphone. I want one but I can not justify the price compared to other rigs(KX-3, etc who have more features). I will  hope to pick up an Argonaut VI in the used market sometime later in 2013. I'm not going to buy a new one at the $$995.00.
Best regards and many 72/73.
Don sr. --WA2TPU --
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 06:05:38 PM »

No 60-meters either, a popular QRP band. CW/digital was allowed there starting last March.

Jeesh, get a real radio for less money and turn the power down to QRP level if you want that.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2012, 02:35:15 AM »

Re: K0OD
               You have that right,just buy an IC-7200 for same price range and have it all.A little heavy but still non back packing portable.       
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K1WJ
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2012, 07:58:46 AM »

Ten-Tec sold out of 1st batch of what? Like 7 radio's. To each his own....Ten-Tec should have called this Argo-Nuts VI at the $995 price.....
73 David K1WJ
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2012, 10:13:30 AM »

I'm still interested in the Argonaut VI, but I'm not sure how well they will be able to compete at that price range. The first eHam reviews give it 5.0, and they say that the audio is great. However, I don't think it stacks up well against the KX3 overall.

I never buy bleeding edge equipment. I wait until it's been out for a while so that the bugs are known and hopefully, corrected or worked around.

--Tom
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2012, 03:46:39 PM »

No 12, no 60 and I forgot, no 6 which is pretty standard nowadays.

Yep, the highly regarded IC-7200 has all that for about the same price. I think I'd go for a used Flex-1500 for half that price. Depends on my mood. Must say I'm never in the mood for a radio that looks like that toy-like Argonaut.

My QRP radios:  Flex-5000a at 5w; OHR-100A on 40m

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N2UGB
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2012, 09:23:07 PM »

The reviews have been pretty favorable, so far. As the cycle winds down, 12-meters may be one band to eliminate in favor of 160 though I never had room for an antenna that long. 

It is a question of price. An unfortunate less-for-more scenario. What is there seems pretty nice.

My station consists of an FT-817ND, OHR100A for 20-meters, and an FT-857D set for 5-watts. And a 7-amp power supply.

I am tempted to buy but as a senior citizen on SS, I have to give serious consideration to available funds.

Still, you never know...

73 F8WBD
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AD5X
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2012, 09:01:36 AM »

I have a KX3, so I may be a bit biased.  But the things that really stand out to me are the following:

The KX3 is smaller, lighter, and draws less current then the Argo6.
The KX3 includes 60, 12 and 6 meters.
The KX3 has dual-watch receive (+/- 15KHz).
The KX3 includes the computer interface cable.
The KX3 includes provisions for an optional internal autotuner (which really works great).
The KX3 includes provisions for an optional internal 2-meter transverter (not yet available).
The KX3 operates AM, FM, CW, SSB, PSK31 and RTTY.  No optional filter necessary for AM operation.  PSK31 & RTTY encoding (from CW input) and decoding are included.  CW decoding is also included.
The KX3 digital voice recorder is included (firmware is currently in beta testing).
The KX3 is the same price as the Argo6 when factory assembled.  But you can save $100 if you assemble it yourself.  Very easy (no soldering).  Took me 2.5 hours to build.

Phil - AD5X
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