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Author Topic: R-390A RESTORATION SERVICE  (Read 7762 times)
N9LCD
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« on: December 23, 2012, 05:20:36 PM »

Lost all my contacts / bookmarks when I switched computers.

I'm looking for a specialist in the restoration of R-390A's; someone who can turnaround a rig in months. I'm open to anybody who has an established  track record in this field.

Thanks & 73!

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AA4HA
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 05:27:21 PM »

Chuck Rippel or Rick Misch

Join our group at;  http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/r-390
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Ms. Tisha Hayes, AA4HA
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N9LCD
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 10:02:02 AM »

Thanks!

But does anybody have contact information, like website, email address, or phone number for either Chuck or Rick?  I've waded through about 24 pages of Google results for Rick without finding about a Rick Misch that does -390A restoration.

73!

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W2WDX
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 04:04:59 PM »

As far as I know Chuck and Rick are no longer doing this work, for numerous reasons. I do it, but not for radios already owned by someone. I restore then sell. I do not have the insurance and bonding required to work on property owned by another person.
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AA4HA
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 05:24:59 PM »

Chuck does the work but he is pretty selective on what he works on. I suggest that you join one of the forums were we discuss such things. He is an active member of the list.

There are others on the same list who do that type of work. Listening and talking to like minded individuals will give you some ideas. Also you may find that there are some things you are willing to tackle for yourself.

As soon as it becomes "work" it ceases to be "fun".
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 07:00:59 PM »

QRZ thread about R-390A restorations (Chuck and Rick) earlier this year.
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?347613-The-Miltronix-website-is-gone

R-390A Fence sitters are the losers, as the economic downturn has reduced Rick's restoration business (Miltronix) and was shutting down earlier this year,
Chuck has a waiting list, and many are impatient to wait the months for their turn.

Like John, W2WDX I have virtually curtailed restoration work on electronics bench equipment ...  
the eBay Flippers were the final straw (disguising as charitable organizations/schools/needy individuals).
IF you lack basic shop skills and do not desire to learn - then the DIY aspects of the hobby are a DEAD-END for you. Enjoy buying the appliances.

w9gb

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N4NYY
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 08:26:54 PM »

QRZ thread about R-390A restorations (Chuck and Rick) earlier this year.
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?347613-The-Miltronix-website-is-gone

R-390A Fence sitters are the losers, as the economic downturn has reduced Rick's restoration business (Miltronix) and was shutting down earlier this year,
Chuck has a waiting list, and many are impatient to wait the months for their turn.

Like John, W2WDX I have virtually curtailed restoration work on electronics bench equipment ...  
the eBay Flippers were the final straw (disguising as charitable organizations/schools/needy individuals).
IF you lack basic shop skills and do not desire to learn - then the DIY aspects of the hobby are a DEAD-END for you. Enjoy buying the appliances.

w9gb

I do not even work on R-390A, and I know what you are getting at. I made the mistake of starting a hobby, putting on a program for it at my club, posting here, etc. I now get requests for repair, and I really do not have any time for it. I work full time 5 days, and at HRO on Sat. That leaves Sunday and I have a 6 year old. So you can just about guess. Someone at HRO blabbed to a customer that came in looking for tubes for a Grundig, and sent him to me. I immediately had to turn him away. I told him that my charge would exceed the value of the radio.

I am not sure if you need all that insurance and so forth that W2WDX says you need if you are a hobbyist like myself, but you both are right. The flippers want top notch goods and no cost so they can make a bundle. And that shit ain't happening to me.


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AC5UP
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2012, 07:10:31 AM »

Don't let Vinnie pull your leg......... All his work is insured by Lloyd's of Bayonne.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2012, 07:41:35 AM »

I'm not sure why some of you are so angry about the "flippers". If you got paid for what you asked your time and materials to restore/repair an item, what is the harm in them selling the finished product?
Now, if you were duped by some sad story, that's a whole 'nuther thing...
I would chalk that up to a learning experience rather than a reason to retreat.
Am I missing something?

I don't do restorations, but repair only, and sometimes that is costly enough, IMO.
However, "worth" is in the eye of the beholder. If you doubt the truth of that, watch the "American Restoration" show where the guy gets $2000 to restore a gum dispenser and other similar similar sitautions! 
90% of the time, I shake my head saying" I can't believe someone would pay that much to restore that thing"...but they do!
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N9LCD
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2012, 08:13:14 AM »

If "flippers" are making money off of you and your services, then YOU AREN'T CHARGING ENOUGH!

If you keep giving your services away free to "flippers", SHAME ON YOU for not learning after the first couple of times!

N9LCD
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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2012, 08:58:47 AM »

If "flippers" are making money off of you and your services, then YOU AREN'T CHARGING ENOUGH!

Can we think about this for a moment?

Every market based economy is driven by the belief it's possible to turn a profit through prudent purchasing, marketing, or value added distribution. Otherwise the entrepreneurial effort will not be rewarded and possibly not attempted. If General Mills took the same attitude as N9LCD and raised their prices because Walmart is trying to make money by re-selling their products........ What happens next?

No Cheerios for you at WallyWorld.

Personally, I have no problem with someone who plans to make money from stuff I sell. It's just one more reason for them to buy, makes it easier for me to sell, and once it's no longer mine what right do I have to say what someone should or should not do with THEIR STUFF?

BTW:  Let's say Vinnie buys something from me for five. Then sells it for six. Whose pocket did the dollar profit come from?

............. if it didn't come out of my pocket, what's my gripe?
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W9GB
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2012, 12:41:51 PM »

Quote from: N9LCD
If you keep giving your services away free to "flippers", SHAME ON YOU for not learning after the first couple of times!
Gerald -

Well, not everyone is born rich, or inherited a trust fund.  
I do perform Pro Bono work and restorations for some high schools, and those of middle/high school age, that are economically disadvantaged, but have strong interest in electronics.

The economic depression, since 2008, has created new scams, charity fronts, and ways to make a $$ .
Flipping Pro bono charity work is a SCAM.
Other flippers are so price ignorant  (no margin for price flip, I priced at market) ---
BUT when they finally sell it -- they send the buyers they flipped (sold to) to me for support (hah).

I will make sure to add a luxury tax surcharge, when you ask for repairs of your radios.
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Even when you charge a fair price today for repairs (less per hour than automotive dealer garages), WHINING from those that have money($) becomes old and tired.
Plenty of other requests for my time/talent without the WHINING.
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N4NYY
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2012, 03:31:38 PM »

I do not care if flippers want to make money. But it is not as easy as just charging what it costs. Many times in restorations, you hit snags, either cosmetic or electroncally, that costs money. Flippers expect you to eat those costs of hidden problems. Also, they want to keep costs low so the can make a profit. Personally, I do not care how much money they make. I simply will not be part of it. I can flip myself. But I find that doing the work myself, gets me more money. I sold a Philco F817 for $100, that I likely got for nothing and could have flipped it for $20. Instead, I restored it and sold it for $100.
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2012, 04:50:10 PM »

As long as a flipper, collector, owner or agent pays me an agreed upon fee upon completion, I'm OK with that. Working on something does not entitle me to become their partner in any future transaction. That's like the window replacement guy wanting a piece of the action when I flip a house!
If I can find, repair and flip my own stuff all the better! In the meantime I welcome the flow of work from outside sources.
I've been repairing electronics of one sort or another for all of my adult life. I agree that estimating is more of an art form than one might expect, but I rarely get burned anymore. If I overlook something, it's nobody's fault but my own anyway.

BTW, the going prices for R-390's seem to be declining, but that may increase interest...
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2012, 06:41:18 PM »

I take it as a challenge to get stuff that's feeble or worse back in shape.  unfortunately, most of that has been concentrated in the house and the cars for the past couple years.  it's a personal challenge, and obviously I don't dig deeper in the trash pile of fleabay than I think I can achieve.  the CX7A still has a little power supply issue at 38 volts, and the BH Green critter appears to have an open prod detector coil, so they're still getting a little dusty.  the Yaesu needs a master oscillator cap and an oscillator alignment, but is workable with the secondary freq counter antenna up as a freq monitor.

skills vary.  however, I developed what I have with some elmering, lots of reading, and getting zapped a few times puzzling out circuits.

R390s appear to be quite the mechanical challenge, though.  I may pass on that model.
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