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Author Topic: Good Solar Numbers Yet Nadda, Zip Zilch !!!!  (Read 2407 times)
KD8MJR
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« on: January 08, 2013, 01:50:15 PM »

8-Jan-2013

I don't get it!

SFI is 156
SN is 196
K=1
Solar wind speed is slow and the BZ is not that bad

So why are all the Bands just noisy and why is there such poor propagation  Shocked Shocked

I have seen numbers in 2010 and 2011 much worst than this and yet the propagation was great.

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N7SMI
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 01:55:24 PM »

I wondered the same thing. Perhaps it's due to such a quick jump in numbers. It seems to take a bit of time in the oven for the ionosphere to get baking. Or it could just be that nobody is calling.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 02:55:50 PM »

I was expecting the signals to be booming in on 10 meters these morning but sigs were just so-so and I did not hear anything to the Middle East.

About the only thing I can think of is we are in the middle of winter and the hours of daylight are very low.

I talked to a friend on the phone today who primarily works 20 and he said conditions were not really good.

Go figure!  Huh

73,

Chris/NU1O
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 03:06:26 PM »

Its a black hole here. I called my buddy down the road to make sure it wasn't my equipment.  Grin
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KD8MJR
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 03:07:29 PM »

I wondered the same thing. Perhaps it's due to such a quick jump in numbers. It seems to take a bit of time in the oven for the ionosphere to get baking. Or it could just be that nobody is calling.

Most of the times the quick Jump also causes the Solar winds to pick up and that makes the bands noisy etc but in this case the solar winds are low.
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KD8MJR
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 03:10:24 PM »

Its a black hole here. I called my buddy down the road to make sure it wasn't my equipment.  Grin

LOL I did the same thing, I started wondering if water had gotten in my connectors.  Grin
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KD8MJR
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 03:13:28 PM »

I was expecting the signals to be booming in on 10 meters these morning but sigs were just so-so and I did not hear anything to the Middle East.

About the only thing I can think of is we are in the middle of winter and the hours of daylight are very low.

I talked to a friend on the phone today who primarily works 20 and he said conditions were not really good.

Go figure!  Huh

73,


Chris/NU1O
I have not heard any middle east countries in a couple of months.  Abdul la and the Arabian net are usually strong but nothing.  I did hear Japan very weak on 17M but that's at a time when I should be hearing them loud and clear.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 04:16:06 PM »

Whatever is going on - it sure helped 160M. The band was amazing last night!
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 05:17:31 PM »

Whatever is going on - it sure helped 160M. The band was amazing last night!
And 80 seems really good tonight I worked 4O3A with 100w on the wrong antenna  Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 06:28:59 PM »

I have not heard any middle east countries in a couple of months.  Abdul la and the Arabian net are usually strong but nothing.  I did hear Japan very weak on 17M but that's at a time when I should be hearing them loud and clear.


Are you talking about 9K2GS? If you are, I think it's due to the seasonal change and the short days in the Northern Hemisphere. I am not a real close friend so I don't check in with Abdallah every night like some do but about once a month I throw in my call just to check on how things are.  From about March to September I see a few contacts per month but at this time of the year 20 is very quiet by about 7 PM and Abdallah does not get on until around 10 or 11 EST. 

I have some decade old contacts in the log with 9K2GS when I worked him long path on 20 in my morning but his operating habits have changed since those QSOs. He is almost strictly a morning guy - his time - these days.

73,

Chris/NU1O

 
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2013, 09:14:00 PM »

SFI etc...means little when the background Xray levels have been so high. Today they were c3.0 which is really noisy and weird fading.

Don KF7DS
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WA0CRI
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 05:49:19 AM »

I agree that the conditions seem poor for a SFI of 170.  However, I did observe something interesting at 1325 UTC this morning on 17M (about 30 minutes before my local sunrise).  I was working a very weak Russian station (RST 519).  No other signals were showing up on the spectrum scope on my IC-7700.  Then, suddenly as if a switch had been thrown signals appeared across the band with signal strengths up to 599.  I have never witnessed such a phenomenon before.   My rig appears to be working fine and it seems what I observed was an actual propagation effect.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 06:54:06 AM »

W0CRI - similar observations here.  17 dead, I go away for coffee, come back 5 mins later and wall to wall cw signals.  interesting.
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KD8MJR
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2013, 01:06:41 PM »

20M is silent today. Almost no QRN and almost no signals Huh
Thats at 15:00 UTC this morning.
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2013, 03:05:54 PM »

I think everybody was higher up than 20.  12 meters was pretty busy at 1500 UTC
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