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Author Topic: RM Italy BLA 350 -- Overpriced????  (Read 35557 times)
KB4QAA
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2013, 03:49:37 PM »

Tying the American dollar to the Euro is not a sign of how well the dollar is doing. Both are being devalued as a function of their buying power and quantitative easing (printing money). The American dollar, in buying power has lost more than 33% in the last 4 years.

Well, since the original statement was that the Dollar was losing value against all the worlds currency, we have to start somewhere.  The Euro represents a major chunk of the world countries, as well as the country of origin, Italy, of the amplifier in question.   

Again, we see that the Dollar is NOT plunging and this cannot be blamed for the price of the amplifier.

You cannot claim buying power is being lost without comparing it against something.

The US consumer price index represents the a consistent and well documented method of comparing prices in the US going back into the 19th century.   Piss and moan all you want, but you will have to argue with government and private economists about the composition. 

Again, it represents a consistent and well documented resource going back over 100 years.   And it shows that US inflation has not been above 4% in the last ten years, and has declined for the last year. 
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2013, 04:15:28 PM »

June 2003 (When I first started traveling for work to Asia)
$1 = B41.61 Thai Baht
$1 = e0.85 Euros
$1 = $1.35 Canadian Dollars
$1 = y118.29 Yen
$1 = Y8.27 Chinese RMB
$1 = L0.60 British Pounds
$1 = $1.73 Singapore Dollars
$1 = R28.41 Russian Rubles  (2005)

January 2013
$1 = B30.06 Thai Baht
$1 = e0.75 Euros
$1 = $0.99 Canadian Dollars
$1 = y89.19 Yen
$1 = Y6.22 Chinese RMB
$1 = L0.62 British Pounds
$1 = $1.22 Singapore Dollars
$1 = R30.22 Russian Rubles

The dollar to Asian currencies has tanked over the past 10 years and has been pretty constants as compared to Western currencies.  A dollar against where our goods are coming from just isn't as strong.  Even the Europeans are complaining.

If you look at a short period of time the dollar is not plunging.  Over a broader period of time western currencies are plunging and I long for the time when I could buy trinkets in Thailand at B49 (that was the highest exchange rate I ever got) to $1...

73,

Carl - W9PMZ
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KB4QAA
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2013, 04:19:19 PM »

Sigh.

A long term decline is not 'plunging'.  Look it up.

BTW, the Consumer Price Index, 'Market Basket' does include food and gasoline.  http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpifaq.htm#Question_7

In the larger picture, the US is still recovering from a near depression, and the Far East countries are still enjoying rapid growth as they mature into modern economic societies.  That strengthens their currencies. 

But realize that the US can't go back 50 years.  These new countries are now equal competitors. We can't assume that we are technologically superior, nor that other countries must buy our goods.  It's a different world.  Compete or lose.
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2013, 10:56:07 PM »

Again, it represents a consistent and well documented resource going back over 100 years.   And it shows that US inflation has not been above 4% in the last ten years, and has declined for the last year.


You are kidding….. Gasoline alone spiked 20 percent here in Kalifornia last summer in one month. You must believe the unemployment figures are also correct. Harbor Freight is a good example of your
buying power is kaput. We are no longer on the Gold standard, so printing is the new game. Not a bad little amp hey ?
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 05:43:18 AM »

Maybe you can get congress - the opposite of progress - to go ahead and issue Amp Stamps...

 Roll Eyes

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KB4QAA
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 05:56:50 AM »

….. Gasoline alone spiked 20 percent here in Kalifornia last summer in one month. You must believe the unemployment figures are also correct. Harbor Freight is a good example of your
buying power is kaput. We are no longer on the Gold standard, so printing is the new game.
Stamp your feet and cry 'wee, wee, wee all the way home'.  Your ignorance is incredible.
-Regardless of the actual number of the CPI for Jan 2012, you forget some basics.  There are 49 other states and 6 Territories that are factored in.  Gas is only one small part of the 'Market Basket' representing typical family consumption.

-Printing cash is a crude method and hasn't been done in decades.  The Fed's Quantitative Easing is how money was injected into the economy from the top. Again, the measure of the result is the inflation rate.  Again, it has not exceeded 4% in the last ten years, and has average less than 3%

-If you believe in conspiracies, then there is no hope for you.  Go live in your fantasy land and count your enemies.

-There isn't enough gold in the world to represent the world's economy. There isn't enough available gold to represent the US's economy.  If you think money is tight now, imagine the government having to beg to buy gold from other countries in order to allow expansion of our economy!  You would really be up in arms.

-Re; exchange rates:  While it is nice to buy a cheap beer while traveling in the Far East, most of those countries have a minimal amount of trade (less than 1.4%) of the US total and thus their exchange rate has little or no direct effect on the US dollar.  In any case, the world changed in 2008, and much more weight must be given to trends since than, rather than strictly comparing to 2003.
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 08:57:19 AM »

"Printing cash is a crude method and hasn't been done in decades.  The Fed's Quantitative Easing is how money was injected into the economy from the top."

So then where did the Fed exactly get this money for the QE then?

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2013, 09:21:01 AM »

Solid-state linear amplifiers are high, regardless of who builds them. The price of all amplifiers, even AL-811's, has risen quite a bit over the past 10 years. Incomes haven't kept up. It hurt$.

I'm squarely in the old, used amplifier category..., but think there is a lot to be learned by working on them. Old Heath, Henry, & Drake amplifiers do hold back the sale of new amplifiers.

For those who have the money or want something new, I think there is some exciting, new product out there. Many years from now I hopefully will have a nice 2013 amplifer to work on.

Actually you are wrong. The inflation rate has been falling over the last year from 4% to under 2% for Feb 2013.  Inflation is lower than it was ten years ago, and lower than average before the 2008 crash.  You just don't know what you are talking about.

And what do they now leave out of the rate of inflation?

Food and fuel prices. Why is that?

They leave it out to put the screws to those receiving Social Security, lowering cost-of-living increases on their checks.

You must believe the unemployment figures are also correct.

Government economists know the true rate of unemployment- excluding the so-called 'underemployed'- but to disclose same would wreck the confidence game known as the sales & service economy.

It's a big secret but 50% is a good guess. Tax receipts to governmental bodies at all levels are WAY down, so unless a tidal wave of embezzlement has been unleashed it's evident there is a big problem.

My baccalaureate economics training is like my amplifiers- 1970's vintage. We were taught the ultimate form of wealth creation is vertically-integrated manufacturing from raw materials to the finished product. Deviations from this due to outsourcing mean the wealth is created in a foreign country.

For the past 3 decades our government ignored wealth creation with our elected officials bought and paid for by multinational corporations. While this has been going on our government has been fastidious when it comes to concentrating wealth in the U.S. Taken to extremes, and this was taught in the Junior and Senior level Economics courses, wealth concentration results in chaos. Economists of this era believed in a certain level of welfare to prevent unrest and keep the peace.

Obama is a smart guy & understands wealth creation but he wants to dance around the real problem while promoting enviro-crap like windmills & solar panels. The solution to our lack of wealth creation has to be broad-based. Then, and only then, can we begin to get this Nation out of the deep hole it has dug for itself.

I have every confidence things will get worse, probably much worse, before the masses realize what has happened to then. Also operating with a high degree of confidence too much time has gone by, and our nation's economic woes cannot be fixed at this late date.
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2013, 09:54:30 AM »

Facts just don't seem to matter here....

SS Cola is based on the CPI-W
The CPI-W includes gas and food.
Nothing is left out.

Re; Quantitative Easing, they create the value out of the air by crediting it to the banks in exchange for bonds/commercial assets, in essence buying them. As the bonds mature the Fed redeems them, or may choose to sell them early, recouping most or all of the expanded value.  Pretty close to a zero sum game hopefully.

Does printing money and putting it on the street, and QE both expand the money market?  Yes, in different ways.  But QE is not "printing money'.  

Regardless of the bitter accusations of printing money, the effect of QE is readily apparent: Inflation has risen no more than modestly, and is down over the last year, and the economy continues slow but steady improvement.  Things could be a lot worse.
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2013, 11:39:47 AM »

The one greatest assets the US has is its natural resources. Obama and company won’t touch them and has done everything possible to drive up the price of oil and gas. Everything we make and transport is affected by oil and gas pricing. All of our consumables are either grown or mined.

Unemployment is still as high as when Obama took office. The national debt has gone from 10 Trillion to 17 trillion in just four years. Now with the Sequester (about 80 billion) about to take place you would think the sky is falling. Never mind the president gave Hurricane Sandy victims 60 Billion just for the New Jersey volts last November. The sequester effects the rate of future spending. This is like your employer saying your raise next year will be 15% instead of 16%.

If anyone thinks this is a way to run a country they have never raised family and pay a mortgage.

One last item. Who is going to buy federal bonds when we default on our loans. Cities and states can't sell bonds anymore and are basically bankrupt. The US is next in line. Can you say Greese.
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 01:28:02 PM »

Back to the original question as to the amplifier is it over priced.  I don't think so.

As to the secondary question.

In the next 5 to to 10 years there are going to be a lot of ticked off people when they realize that all of the money that they have had taken, at a rate of 15% per year, just isn't there and that they will be victims of "entitlement reform" just to keep things afloat.  Nobody really wants to comprehend the demographics in terms of age vs. tax contribution status as time moves to the right.

Bernie Madoff is a saint as compared to the fraud that is currently being perpetuated...

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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 06:14:05 PM »

     I hear  Obamadrama is heavily invested in Ameri-tron amp stock,apparently he likes the idea of the output being twenty times greater than the input.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2013, 06:29:43 PM »

This has become a POLITICAL Debate!  Shocked
Anybody want to add a little bit of RELIGION to the mix!  Huh

((((73)))) Milverton
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2013, 06:34:27 PM »

Praise the Lord and pass the tax collection plate.
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2013, 02:58:29 AM »

Drifting the thread backwards a bit, are these amplifiers FCC Type Approved, and/or do they carry a CE mark?
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