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Author Topic: Why not 9BDXCC?  (Read 1223 times)
KA1J
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« on: March 07, 2013, 11:51:45 AM »

I'm two LOTW short on 17M from having 160M - 10M confirmed (have it if I count QSL cards). It's taken a long time to get that and I'd like a 9BDXCC for my efforts, problem is there is no 9 band award.

I can't find an answer as to why the ARRL does not have this award available. DXCC is historic and so is 5BDXCC. The WARC bands have been around over 25 years so why not 9BDXCC?

Anyone heard the reasoning for not having this award?

Gary
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NI0C
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 12:05:27 PM »

Well, actually the 9B award does exist in the form of endorsements on the basic 5B award.  For example, my 5B plaque has endorsement plates for each of the WARC bands, plus 160 meters.  Some people have all these plus a 6 meter endorsement for a ten band DXCC   

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Chuck  NI0C
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W1VT
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2013, 12:10:10 PM »

From the Basic Rules

"The 5BDXCC is endorsable for these additional bands: 160, 30, 17, 12, 6 and 2 Meters. 5BDXCC qualifiers are eligible for an individually engraved plaque."

You can get endorsements for another six bands, once you have the basic 5BDXCC.  That should keep you busy!

I think they did it this way to preserve the value of 5BDXCC--for most stations, 80M is the hardest band by far--substituting one of the WARC bands for 80 would devalue the award.  I've already have DXCC on two of the WARC bands before getting my 80M DXCC, so "6 band DXCC" was easier than the traditional 5BDXCC.  

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N3QE
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2013, 01:01:00 PM »

I think they did it this way to preserve the value of 5BDXCC--for most stations, 80M is the hardest band by far--substituting one of the WARC bands for 80 would devalue the award.  I've already have DXCC on two of the WARC bands before getting my 80M DXCC, so "6 band DXCC" was easier than the traditional 5BDXCC.  

Depends on your definition of "hardest" :-)

For me at least, I can get almost all the way to traditional 5BDXCC in a single good contest weekend :-). But that doesn't give me any credit for WARC band DXCC!

Tim.
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VK3HJ
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 04:05:09 AM »

Having started my DX chase at the bottom of this cycle, I had 80 m DXCC nearly a year before my last HF band DXCC which was 10 m (Dec 2012).
Now I am concentrating on 160 m for my 9th band, and probably my last DXCC. I doubt I'll live long enough to see enough DX on 6 m, or maybe even Honor Roll.
With 9BDXCC, I suppose I will feel like I've "achieved" something worthwhile in the hobby. Not that anyone else will care much!
The 5BDXCC cost me something like $115 to get here, but I am happy to have it on the wall!
73, and don't forget to keep having fun,
Luke VK3HJ
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 05:22:21 AM »

$115 for 5BDXCC seems dirt cheap to me.  I have Mixed, CW, all 9 Bands, Challenge 1500, Honor Roll and in a month or so I'll have Digital.  Including award fees, QSL card printing and round-trip postage for the paper cards I have, I gotta be for Thousand$.

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Don, K2DC
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VK3HJ
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 05:43:45 AM »

$115 was for the 5BDXCC Plaque with endorsement plates.
I don't want to think what 8BDXCC actually did cost me!
Better than spending it at the pub, I suppose...
73,
Luke VK3HJ
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KA1J
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 06:33:58 AM »

The rationale I have and why I'd like to know why there is no 9BDXCC is this; I get the DXCC itself and I get the idea of it in various modes and single bands. I appreciate the idea of 5 the band 80, 40, 20, 15 & 10 as that was the standard operating frequencies back in that day. To wit; the amateur line Collins gear did not offer 160. The WARC bands were a gift from the 79 WARC agreement and they were not all given at the same time but the last was opened to us maybe 25 years ago so they've been valid for DXCC ever since they became available to us and all considering, that's a lot of time.

So to me, the Single DXCC award stands alone. The 5 band stands alone. It seems reasonable there should be one pinnacle award for the entire 9 HF frequencies of 160 through 10M that should stand alone.

The ARRL can use the money, I would certainly like a 9BDXCC plaque; it's taken me almost 35 years of mostly wire antennae to get there. Don't understand why they don't have it.

73,
Gary
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 07:03:53 AM »

I'd like to see a "Master DXer" award for getting:

DXCC on all three modes
DXCC on any ten bands
Grid Square Awards on any ten VHF/UHF/Satellite "bands"

Zack W1VT
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 07:04:06 AM »

Why not just make it 10BDXCC?  It's double the five and would fit in nicely.
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2013, 07:44:11 AM »

$115 was for the 5BDXCC Plaque with endorsement plates.
I don't want to think what 8BDXCC actually did cost me!
Better than spending it at the pub, I suppose...
73,
Luke VK3HJ

What's the matter with pubs?  Cheesy

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KA1J
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2013, 07:50:59 AM »

Why not just make it 10BDXCC?  It's double the five and would fit in nicely.

I get your joke but even to play that game, 6M is VHF and can't be applied to a HF award.
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2013, 07:59:52 AM »

What hobby is cost free (and legal)?  Grin
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VK3HJ
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2013, 02:20:34 PM »

Why not just make it 10BDXCC?  It's double the five and would fit in nicely.

I get your joke but even to play that game, 6M is VHF and can't be applied to a HF award.

Let's keep VHF and up out of this! Those with DXCC on 6 m outside the dense populations of the Northern Hemisphere are single-band specialists, who have chased nearly only that band through several cycles. Nobody has worked Europe this cycle in Australia. A few have worked NA. I believe there is ONE person who has worked DXCC on 2 m, and he is in New Zealand - all via EME, the only possible way to work DXCC on that band here. In Europe it would be possible in a couple of good Es cycles.
I'll die happy having achieved 160 m DXCC, which is by far the most challenging band for me (where any amount of DX is possible).
A 9BDXCC should be gold-plated and impress even the most mainstream of the Proles!
73, and good DX,
Luke VK3HJ
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