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Author Topic: 12 VDC, 7 Amp Lead Acid/Gel Batteries Question  (Read 2132 times)
N3BQA
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« on: March 30, 2013, 03:46:58 PM »

I'm in the market for a 12 VDC, 7 Amp lead acid/gel battery. I already have a charger for one. Checking on the internet i'm seeing this type of battery being made in china. Should i be leary of the origin of this battery? Are there lead acid/gel cell batteries made elsewhere that are more reliable? 
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W9GB
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2013, 04:33:00 PM »

I have never had issues (Quality, Warranty, Availability) with batteries from these two USA companies (below).  
Both companies are major suppliers for UPS systems.
Let them worry about global plants and suppliers.

Yuasa Battery, Inc.
2901 Montrose Ave
Laureldale, PA 19605 US
P: 866-431-4784
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/about.php

Universal Battery (UPG)
488 S. Royal Lane
Coppell, Texas 75019
http://upgi.com/
Toll free : 866.892.1122
Office Main    : 469.892.1122
Fax : 469.892.1123
Email : sales@upgi.com
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KE3WD
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2013, 08:22:33 PM »

12V 7AH Yuasa is one of my favorites for all sorts of things.  Never had a problem with one and I'm likely going on three or four hundred pieces at this stage of the game.  On mountaintops, oceans, rivers, running dataloggers, charging them with shore power, generator systems, windmill systems and solar. 

For the rather small price differential, I'd stay away from ebay/China deals. 

73
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2013, 05:30:12 PM »

hi,

we changed 60 of the same batteries in our ups at the office,
all the Yuasa were mfg in china.

I give the old batteries away and they work just great.

we got them from mouser.com

73 james
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 09:14:48 AM »

T ry a hobby shop in your area.  Many R/C flyers use them in field boxes for engine starters, fuel pumps etc.

You carry it home and don't have to pay shipping on 'lead'.

...bill   nr4c
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 09:53:50 AM »

You have Seven Batteries Plus retail stores in your neighborhood --
Off-Shelf (quick purchase) and they have recycling abilities on site.

Royal Palm Beach, FL    551 N. State Road 7   561.333.5332
Lake Park / PB Gardens, FL    1250 Northlake Blvd   561.881.8900
Lake Worth, FL    6250 Lantana Road   561.304.0707
Jupiter, FL    6390 W. Indiantown Rd   561.743.7733
Coconut Creek, FL    4450 N State Rd 7   954.623.6066
Ft Lauderdale, FL    1551 E. Commercial Blvd   954.771.0838
Ft Lauderdale, FL    1360 SE 17th Street   954.306.8563
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 10:03:51 AM »

I use these batteries in several UPS and swap them out every several years but I stopped using the 7ah version long ago. I use the 8 or 9ah version (based on whats available and price) now. I have bought mine on line for many years. BTW Yuasa gel cells are not made in US. They are made in china too.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 10:56:30 AM »

Shipping on these heavy batteries can cost more than the battery.  I found 12V 8AHr gel cell batteries at Tractor Supply for $21.95 a year or so ago.  They may cost a little more today.  The ones I bought were made in China, but they are still working OK after two years.

At most every hamfest I attend several people are selling Yausa 12V 7AHr "pulls" for an asking price of $10.00.

Dick  AD4U
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 12:49:19 PM »

Shipping on these heavy batteries can cost more than the battery.  

Not if shipper uses flat rate USPS shipping boxes. They are a great deal with heavy stuff. I once got a 35+lb chain shipped to me in a flat rate 9 dollar box. USPS lost money on that one.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 03:35:24 PM »

Yuasa controls the manufacturing of their batteries that are made in China. 

Don't confuse the country of origin as being the culprit for the cheaper stuff. 

It has been my experience that the quality control that Yuasa sealed lead-acid batteries exhibit is as good or better than its always been. 

We have to stay ever-vigilant as consumers, however, to make sure that such stays that way in the future, of course. 

But for right now, there is more than one input to the Made in China problem and all inputs should be thoughtfully considered before jumping to a conclusion. 


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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 03:59:17 PM »

Myself I have no problem with made in China batteries. Remember when made in Japan was bad and now they are associated with quality and a economic giant. China is on same path.
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2013, 05:54:30 AM »

Myself I have no problem with made in China batteries. Remember when made in Japan was bad and now they are associated with quality and a economic giant. China is on same path.

Agreed. 

However, until the day arrives when we can safely trust the greater majority of the offered products in terms of quality control, it is likely a good idea to be careful about the source and brand names atached to the purchase.  Name such as Yuasa has the edge over brands that may get better or may not be up to snuff at this point in time. 

We see that in just about any product, not just batteries. 

The important factor here, I think, is to avoid the kind of thinking that will lock you into the inability to change your perceptions and buying habits as time goes by.  Those who do that should be better informed and better equipped over the long run, just as we discovered with the Japanese electronics situation, where there was indeed a rather stupid prejudice for quite some time. 

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