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Author Topic: So Intrepid is making announcement at Dayton regarding P5  (Read 4610 times)
AD9DX
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2013, 08:06:24 AM »

Come on, comparing the folks at USF&W to Kim Jong-Un and the leaders of the DPRK? You object to them putting some areas off-limits (a policy supported by elected administrations from both major parties) because it denies you the possibility of making a radio contact with a new "entity" (a First-World game you play to pass the time, which the vast majority of the world's population would find silly and meaningless), and you equate this to the actions of a murderous regime that starves its own people. That kind of hyperbole is one of the reasons it's so difficult to have meaningful political discourse in the US. Please make the obligatory comparison of Obama to Hitler (as others did with Bush) so we can get that out of the way and move on.

I don't care to make the comparison of Obama and Hitler...

My point is that it is absolutely absurd to have government officials designate lands that no one can go to and enjoy. Then forcibly tax me to maintain said land.

The whole Eco movement pisses me off and when it interferes with my hobby it makes it worse. Allowing some "pristine" areas to go un enjoyed is as silly as expecting that if people stay away these areas will become "pristine". 
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2013, 08:51:18 AM »

My point is that it is absolutely absurd to have government officials designate lands that no one can go to and enjoy. Then forcibly tax me to maintain said land.

Perhaps others find enjoyment in the knowledge that there are such places.

The whole Eco movement pisses me off ...

Which, of course, justifies your absurd comparison. BTW, didn't you recently criticize someone about their "foul" language?

... and when it interferes with my hobby it makes it worse.

ME ME ME.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2013, 09:14:02 AM »

I did criticize it... In the SUBJECT line. I think I even said, in topic doesn't bother me.

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2013, 10:59:49 AM »

Here is the URL to our news from Dayton: www.intrepid-DX.com/p5/news.php

Watch for further updates, possibly in June from the DPRK.


Paul N6PSE
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AD9DX
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2013, 11:01:07 AM »

I wish you the best of luck. You are going to a place that I certainly wouldn't have the testicular fortitude to go. Stay safe OM.
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2013, 03:40:25 PM »

How in the name of Dennis Rodman did they get a Visa to DPRK?

I don't think its all that hard. I watched a CNN episode and it showed several Americans that where over there on vacation.
Not my idea of a vacation spot but I guess for serious travellers just like serious Dxers you want to go their at least once so its checked off your list.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2013, 03:51:25 PM »

The whole Eco movement pisses me off and when it interferes with my hobby it makes it worse. Allowing some "pristine" areas to go un enjoyed is as silly as expecting that if people stay away these areas will become "pristine". 

Wow  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes what a statement!   

You do know that the primary meaning of Pristine is:

a. Remaining in a pure state; uncorrupted by civilization.
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2013, 04:00:32 PM »

The whole Eco movement pisses me off and when it interferes with my hobby it makes it worse. Allowing some "pristine" areas to go un enjoyed is as silly as expecting that if people stay away these areas will become "pristine". 

Wow  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes what a statement!   

You do know that the primary meaning of Pristine is:

a. Remaining in a pure state; uncorrupted by civilization.


Apparently you haven't seen the ways these "uninhabited" places look. Why else are there a bunch of wealthy hippies willing to pay to go there to pick up trash. I am glad you care about the environment. I figure I'll worry about my carbon footprint when volcanos cease to erupt. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2013, 04:02:01 PM »

Good Luck Paul and David!  May you guys have a safe and uneventful journey there and back!

Randy
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2013, 04:23:13 PM »

The whole Eco movement pisses me off and when it interferes with my hobby it makes it worse. Allowing some "pristine" areas to go un enjoyed is as silly as expecting that if people stay away these areas will become "pristine".  

Wow  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes what a statement!  

You do know that the primary meaning of Pristine is:

a. Remaining in a pure state; uncorrupted by civilization.


Apparently you haven't seen the ways these "uninhabited" places look. Why else are there a bunch of wealthy hippies willing to pay to go there to pick up trash. I am glad you care about the environment. I figure I'll worry about my carbon footprint when volcanos cease to erupt.  

I have been to very remote locations, so remote that I am pretty sure that not even more than a handful of people have ever been to them and I have seen rivers that are so clear I felt an uncontrollable urge to drink the water.

What you are talking about is Pacific Island beaches that tend to pick up waterborn Garbage from the the eastern countries.  People or no people that trash will float to the islands beaches but people on the island often times bring a whole other set of dangers.  Just take a look at how many Pristine places have been destroyed because visitors with boats happened to carry a few stray Rats on board that then got on the island and killed out every indigenous species.
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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2013, 06:59:42 PM »

It's not hard to visit the DPR. But what Intrepid is doing, working with a charity and negotiating with the Government is hard.

But if you want to visit, no problem. There are tour companies who can do it for you. You get escorted everywhere of course and your first stop is china. Your cellphone also stays home or in China. No newspapers, publishing a of any kind and they make you sign a statement to that effect.

Eric Schmidt went there with bill richardson but his daughter had a better trip report than he did, complete with pictures.
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2013, 05:17:36 AM »

I figure I'll worry about my carbon footprint when volcanos cease to erupt.  

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/climate.php


Yearly CO2 emitters                                                      Billion metric tons per year (Gt/y)

Global volcanic emissions (highest preferred estimate)          0.26
Anthropogenic CO2 in 2010 (projected)                             35.0


I guess ignorance is bliss.
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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2013, 07:56:11 AM »

If you're interested in taking a tour:

http://www.koryogroup.com/

No radio though.
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2013, 08:10:09 AM »

Never wanted to go to DPRK, although I looked at it almost daily, for a year or so, while stationed in SOUTH Korea. Our unit, B Co, 1st Platoon, 321st USASA Bn. was the Northernmost US unit in South Korea. It was later called/nicknamed THE ALAMO, some time after I had left. I was there in 60-61. I used to step out the back of the commo hut, high on a mountain, near the DMZ, and if it was not foggy, I could plainly see into NK and hear their propaganda loudspeakers.

Never worried about them coming over until one nite an old Papasan steped on an old land mine and met his maker. It happened VERY close to our compound, and for a few minutes, I thought that this might be the end of the road for us. The explosion broke a lot of the whiskey bottles in our little club, but we were not without drink for long. hi hi. (Most of the unbroken bottles were broken after dumping their contents through sheets into pots, etc.) The damaged goods were replaced at no cost, from whomever handled the club, and we drank free whiskey for quite a while.

73, Gene AF3Y
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« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2013, 08:45:27 AM »

Eric Schmidt's daughter's trip report:

https://sites.google.com/site/sophieinnorthkorea/home

I hope that intrepid doesn't go in the winter or at least pack some thick coats. It's cold. Even indoors.
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