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Author Topic: K3 vs ts 990  (Read 6371 times)
KE7EOZ
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« on: June 21, 2013, 11:06:17 AM »

Thinking to upgrade to either K3 or ts 990 I would like to hear what would be the best choice . I meant loaded k3 vs ts 990. Plse don't say invest in antenna answer the question ask thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2013, 11:09:02 AM »

k3 without a doubt.  the only radios that are equal to the loaded K3 are the Orions.


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KE7EOZ
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2013, 12:17:11 PM »

I have only hears those two radios on the web and the k3 seems a little bit more noisier am I right?
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2013, 01:00:48 PM »

k3 without a doubt.  the only radios that are equal to the loaded K3 are the Orions.

I doubt that.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2013, 01:09:17 PM »

Ugh! what a choice. The K3 has horrible ergonomics and the TS-990 looks like something beaten with the ugly stick. I'd have either an Icom IC-7800 or an IC-7700 and as a bonus get a nice solid front end.

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2013, 03:48:27 PM »

I would go with the TS-990. Great audio, fantistic DSP and the radio can be run without the manual open all the time.

Kenwood has been making solid radios for over 40 years and they hold their value well.  When you open up a K3 it does not have the build quality you would expect from a fully loaded $3500 radio.

Add a four element SteppIR at 100 feet with a leagle limit amplifier and work DX when the bands are closed.

It just money.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2013, 04:43:14 PM »

That's not even a choice for comparison.  If you said Icom 7800 vs 990 then you would have a debate.  Instead your asking about a Honda vs a Ferrari.  If you have the cash for a 990 then go for it, you will not be disappointed so long as you have amble desk space  Grin.

IMO these two radios, 990 and K3 suffer from the same problem but each is on the opposite end of the spectrum.  The K3 has terrible ergonomics because the Radio is so small that each button has to serve two or three functions.  On the other hand the TS-990S is so big that they put every button they could fit right there in front of you.   If I was buying a Radio and had $8K just sitting around the 990 vs K3 would not be a consideration but I might think of the Icom 7800 or 7700 because those radios have a better ergonomic balance and almost the same performance and features but I got to say the 990 has one sweet looking LCD and is almost 10 years newer in design than the 7800 and is probably right now the best overall radio on the market.

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 04:47:05 PM »

k3 without a doubt.  the only radios that are equal to the loaded K3 are the Orions.




 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked  OMG I am Rolling reading that.....
Your going to say a Loaded K3 is better than a 990  Cheesy Cheesy 
Seriously do you own stock in Elecraft??  I doubt even the owner of Elecraft could say that with a straight face.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2013, 07:41:30 PM »


Add a four element SteppIR at 100 feet with a leagle limit amplifier and work DX when the bands are closed.


The 990 would be sweet to drive a pair of 3-500's to legal limit with ease with its 200 watt rated output from 50 volt finals.
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2013, 09:24:19 PM »

I'm not gonna tell you to invest in an antenna. I am gonna say if you think an $8,000 radio feeding a flagpole or an attic dipole is going to be better than a $1k used TS-2000 or a 746Pro going into a 3 ell yagi on a 60 foot tower you're going to be VERY disappointed.
 Oh yeah...I say K3 but if you really feel the urge for the KW at the very least take the time to find a way to test drive it before you buy one.
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KE7EOZ
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2013, 09:45:06 PM »

Well i know about the antenna but that was not the question
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2013, 09:49:55 PM »

I'm not gonna tell you to invest in an antenna. I am gonna say if you think an $8,000 radio feeding a flagpole or an attic dipole is going to be better than a $1k used TS-2000 or a 746Pro going into a 3 ell yagi on a 60 foot tower you're going to be VERY disappointed.
 

I do not agree, while a attic antenna is not best choice, you do not need a Yagi and a tower to do well. But buy same token, a Yagi an a tower can amplify/make worse the limitations of a cheap receivers lack of dynamic range or selectivity. A high dollar antenna does not transform a poor rig.

Also to put the K3 in same league as a state of the art 990 is wishful thinking at best. K3 is a decent CW rig but does not shine on SSB.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2013, 09:38:59 AM »

So your are tell me that if I do ssb more than cw which
Is what I do indeed then the option is the 990 instead ok k3
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2013, 10:09:29 AM »

remember these are all "opinions" and you know what they say about those.  What rig do you like best ?
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2013, 10:10:50 AM »

The TS590 slaughters the K3 on SSB and that is coming a CW nut at my club who owns a K3 and swears by them so I expect the TS990 will do even more so. The K3 is just too damned harsh sounding on SSB to make using it on that mode for any length of time anything more than an endurance event.

If SSB is your main mode of operating then the K3 is the last radio you want to be considering.

Can't believe people are suggesting the 7800. Its a 10 year old design with less performance, fewer features and is almost $2000 more than a TS990.
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