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Author Topic: Disneyland-Anaheim Totally Ham-Friendly!  (Read 10072 times)
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« on: September 30, 2013, 09:42:15 AM »

Planning a trip to Disneyland-Anaheim later this week, and I wanted to see if
it was OK to take an HT along with me, to keep in touch with others in my party,
and also to work the MickeyMouse repeater.

So I called Disneyland-Anaheim guest services. Delightful music on hold (Woody
Guthrie ... songs from Cinderella ... )

I asked the agent (er, "cast member") for permission to bring my "amateur radio
handheld radio" with me on Thursday, "to communicate with others at the park,
and use the Mickey Mouse repeater."

Totally approved, no problem whatsoever.

Now, then, I am sure that there may be some who might have problems getting
their amateur equipment onto the premises. But if one asks, gets the name of
the person from whom permission was obtained, operates responsibly (that means
do not be disruptive to other patrons (which means low volume or the use of an
earpiece - IMHO)), then one should have no problems using ham radios at the
park.

Clint Bradford K6LCS
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 12:50:20 PM »

There is no repeater inside the Disneyland Resort.  I have communicated with the owner of the repeater and he said Disney asked him to remove it.  It's now on an Anaheim City building somewhere.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 01:02:49 PM »

Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with the original post ... Not sure why you bothered writing.


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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 03:30:01 PM »

Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with the original post ... Not sure why you bothered writing.


Clint Bradford K6LCS

Because you mentioned the "Mickey Mouse repeater" in your original post...
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 03:53:42 PM »

Yes. If you knew a little about the history of the region, you would realize that
146.940- in Anaheim has been known for decades as the "Disneyland" repeater.

When it was on the site ... when it was across the street on the Disneyland Hotel
... and where it is now - it is still referred to as the "Disneyland repeater."

Don't like that? Talk to TASMA. But is has absolutely nothing to do with your
communications problems nor this thread.

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2013, 10:13:42 AM »

DISNEYLAND® Resort
Guest Experience Services

10/04/2013

Dear Clint,

Thank you for your e-mail to the DISNEYLAND® Resort.

As long as your portable amateur radio does not interfere with our
radios used in our Parks, you will be able to use yours.

Again, thank you for taking the time to write. We hope you will have the
opportunity to visit the DISNEYLAND® Resort soon and trust your visit
will be pleasant in all regards.

Sincerely,

Linda Trump
DISNEYLAND® Resort
Guest Experience Services


Original Message Follows:
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First Day of Visit: 10/11/2013
Length Of Stay: 2

May I bring my portable amateur radio with me to Disneyland - Anaheim?
My FCC license is K6LCS ... and I would like to "work" the Disney
amateur radio repeater, and also talk to others while I am enjoying
Dumbo!

Clint Bradford [clint@clintbradford.com]

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 01:43:59 PM »

Nicely done Clint.  - You win the best post of the day award on eHam.net

~ Mitch ~
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2013, 01:35:29 AM »

K6LCS ranted>
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Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with the original post ... Not sure why you bothered writing.
Clint Bradford K6LCS

He offered a little bit of history about the "Disneyland Repeater"; something that I didn't know.  I have a friend who worked his summers at Disneyland (Florida) while at school so it was of interest to me just as some of his stories were.  I appreciate that.
Can't for the life of me understand why that would be upsetting to you.  Hope your visit to the park is more to your liking.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2013, 12:04:43 PM »

>> ... Can't for the life of me understand why that would be upsetting to you. 

I am not upset in the slightest. Tom, you've missed several scores of messages on this topic ... all initiated by a gentleman who had his HT turned away at the gate. And instead of accurately reporting the true status of amateur radio at Disneyland, he slams them as being anti-ham when, in fact, they were just "anti-HIM" that morning.

Damage has been done to the reputation of Disney and ABC ... and you'll never see an apology.

And so it goes ...

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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2013, 01:34:43 PM »

>> ... Can't for the life of me understand why that would be upsetting to you. 

I am not upset in the slightest. Tom, you've missed several scores of messages on this topic ... all initiated by a gentleman who had his HT turned away at the gate. And instead of accurately reporting the true status of amateur radio at Disneyland, he slams them as being anti-ham when, in fact, they were just "anti-HIM" that morning.

Damage has been done to the reputation of Disney and ABC ... and you'll never see an apology.

And so it goes ...

Clint Bradford


The true status of amateur radio at Disneyland has been correctly described as follows:

"taking a ham radio onto the premises has been problematic for many before you." - K6LCS



So, the person who had a problem at the gate correctly described his own experience. Seems experiences may vary.


Damage has been done to the reputation of Disney and ABC by their own hand, for failing to properly enforce with no exceptions their own policies around amateur radios.

Proper enforcement would be if Linda Trump had stated flatly that amateur radios are not allowed into the park because they may interfere with the park communications. That's what the other guest experienced at the gate.

Having in hand an email printout alleging provenance as originating from a park official wouldn't hold much water with a properly trained security staff.

This just reinforces the capricious and ill-managed guest security system at Disney.


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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2013, 03:20:01 PM »

>> .. Proper enforcement would be if Linda Trump had stated flatly that amateur radios are not allowed into the park because they may interfere with the park communications ...

Why would you want a Disney official to mis-state a long-held park policy - of allowing ham radios on the premises?

The bizarre-ness continues ...

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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2013, 03:40:36 PM »

>> .. Proper enforcement would be if Linda Trump had stated flatly that amateur radios are not allowed into the park because they may interfere with the park communications ...

Why would you want a Disney official to mis-state a long-held park policy - of allowing ham radios on the premises?

The bizarre-ness continues ...

Clint Bradford


It does seem bizzare that a Disney Wacker would, thumbs in his Disney Wacker Utility Belt, bow up to a patron and lie to him about park policy. Disney seems not to have control of the situation.

Seems as if Disney parks may not be exactly a safe environment, since there seems not to be a solid policy enforcement.

It seems to be, "Whim O' The Wacker".

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2013, 09:31:44 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 07:27:49 AM »



Arno, I do believe that is both the most useful addition to this thread, and the funniest one besides.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2013, 12:39:45 PM »

RFI from ham equipment in a Disney property might work well as part of the plot for an upcoming "Kingdom Keepers" book.  I'll drop Ridley Pearson a note.  Some pretty good books in that teen fiction series.  The kids at the school where I volunteer keep the district's copies perpetually checked out.  I have two copies of each (one hardback and one paperback, although the paperback is the only one I will loan out.
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