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Author Topic: Another company bought by China  (Read 12781 times)
W8JX
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« on: January 30, 2014, 06:49:09 AM »

Google announced that it is selling recently acquired Motorola phone division to PC hardware company Leveno of China. The are keeping Motorola's patent profolio
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2014, 07:01:46 AM »

WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP !!!!!   CHINA AGAIN  !!!!
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2014, 08:49:52 AM »

Remember Lenovo was IBM's PC operations in China and the Far East and made relatively good products. When IBM exited the PC market (as HP is likely to do) Lenovo was a natural. Given the PC market is going through fundamental changes and mobile platforms (including smartphones) represent growth opportunities this may make sense. Further, (and having worked for Motorola along with other high-tech firms) the odds for Google's success were slim. Given Google is not a hardware company together with Motorola Mobility's weak smartphone performance this was probably inevitable. Many of us assumed from the beginning Google really wanted the patents more than the burden of operating a hardware company.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2014, 09:08:57 AM »

Many of us assumed from the beginning Google really wanted the patents more than the burden of operating a hardware company.

There is no doubt on this ....
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2014, 07:24:23 PM »

eh, china can keep those dumb phones over there anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 10:52:02 AM »

Motorola has not made phones in years. They are made in Indoniesia.... south china
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 11:24:59 AM »

Where were all the comments when China bought that other ham company  --- Smithfield Ham?
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W8JX
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 11:40:46 AM »

Motorola has not made phones in years. They are made in Indoniesia.... south china

Maybe but they were US based. Apple calls itself a American company but its phone are made in China too. A few years ago Huskvarna Viking based in Sweden and maker of swiss built sewing machines was bought out by Pfaff a Germany based company. They had a fire sale of all swiss made machines and started a new model line built in China under old Viking name. It cost them far less to build them but the units do not cost less than swiss built ones. One day China and a few choice individuals will own the world at this rate.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 12:44:36 PM »

They already our political masters. We have sold off the farm to them.

Us people in the West will go down in the eyes of history, as the most stupid, greedy and short sighted people for destroying the goose that layed the golden egg and  denying our young people a decent future. We have effectively  sold our  1st world manufacturing economies and have started to become the 3rd world.

You wonder why taxes and charges   by governments have become so bad? Simple, the taxation base is no longer there. Its in China and the money is sitting in a offshore tax haven. The Western world will become  like England where everything is expensive and taxed so heavily because thats the only way for governments to get money to maintain their 1st world life styles that we cant afford. We cant afford it because we are not manufacturing anything anymore. We all got taken in by the made in china cheap deal.

Now boys and girls we will all be paying for it. But just follow the money trail and you favorite politician will be supported  by these very companies that close down  the plants in the West. Oh yes, they will cry we stand for jobs jobs jobs and  I am the patriot that will save you. Then they stand idly by investing in and receive donations from the very companies that are  destroying the opportunity of future generations. I guess its time to learn chinese and learn how to kowtow. We gave them our world and now we are beggars that cant get it back because we are broke. Its amusing how we destroyed all the native  tribes of the world with cheap trinkets, drugs like alcohol and desease while we stole their resources.. Its funny how the chinese have hoodwinked us all with cheap flashy crap at a cheap price while they steal our world around us. The joke is truly on us but why its so sad is that we thought we were educated smart and knew how to run the world.  Now how did we let a few billion poor peasants steal our world?As they say these peasant are laughing all the way to the bank. But you can blame your politicians for this mess, they dont  believe in fair trade, they believe in free trade and free money that flows directly into their pockets.

Motorola has not made phones in years. They are made in Indoniesia.... south china

Maybe but they were US based. Apple calls itself a American company but its phone are made in China too. A few years ago Huskvarna Viking based in Sweden and maker of swiss built sewing machines was bought out by Pfaff a Germany based company. They had a fire sale of all swiss made machines and started a new model line built in China under old Viking name. It cost them far less to build them but the units do not cost less than swiss built ones. One day China and a few choice individuals will own the world at this rate.
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2014, 06:34:20 PM »

You are correct.  When there is not enough tax base then that country is equal to a begger.    To revert America to be 1st in the world stop buying stuff made else where in the world.  Every dollor you spent on a US made product will improve US economy.   Read and understand Swadeshi movement of India.   The Swadeshi movement, part of the Indian independence movement and the developing Indian nationalism, was an economic strategy aimed at removing the British Empire from power and improving economic conditions in India by following the principles of swadeshi (self-sufficiency). Strategies of the Swadeshi movement involved boycotting British products and the revival of domestic products and production processes. 
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They already our political masters. We have sold off the farm to them.

Us people in the West will go down in the eyes of history, as the most stupid, greedy and short sighted people for destroying the goose that layed the golden egg and  denying our young people a decent future. We have effectively  sold our  1st world manufacturing economies and have started to become the 3rd world.

You wonder why taxes and charges   by governments have become so bad? Simple, the taxation base is no longer there. Its in China and the money is sitting in a offshore tax haven. The Western world will become  like England where everything is expensive and taxed so heavily because thats the only way for governments to get money to maintain their 1st world life styles that we cant afford. We cant afford it because we are not manufacturing anything anymore. We all got taken in by the made in china cheap deal.

Now boys and girls we will all be paying for it. But just follow the money trail and you favorite politician will be supported  by these very companies that close down  the plants in the West. Oh yes, they will cry we stand for jobs jobs jobs and  I am the patriot that will save you. Then they stand idly by investing in and receive donations from the very companies that are  destroying the opportunity of future generations. I guess its time to learn chinese and learn how to kowtow. We gave them our world and now we are beggars that cant get it back because we are broke. Its amusing how we destroyed all the native  tribes of the world with cheap trinkets, drugs like alcohol and desease while we stole their resources.. Its funny how the chinese have hoodwinked us all with cheap flashy crap at a cheap price while they steal our world around us. The joke is truly on us but why its so sad is that we thought we were educated smart and knew how to run the world.  Now how did we let a few billion poor peasants steal our world?As they say these peasant are laughing all the way to the bank. But you can blame your politicians for this mess, they dont  believe in fair trade, they believe in free trade and free money that flows directly into their pockets.

Motorola has not made phones in years. They are made in Indoniesia.... south china

Maybe but they were US based. Apple calls itself a American company but its phone are made in China too. A few years ago Huskvarna Viking based in Sweden and maker of swiss built sewing machines was bought out by Pfaff a Germany based company. They had a fire sale of all swiss made machines and started a new model line built in China under old Viking name. It cost them far less to build them but the units do not cost less than swiss built ones. One day China and a few choice individuals will own the world at this rate.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2014, 05:05:26 AM »

QRPNEW is EXACTLY correct--but the stupid people who want their flashy, cheap junk from stores like Wal-Mart and any others who sell the overseas junk have yelled them down constantly and consistently.

Add to that the greed and the baloney that is pushed in colleges--that the bottom line is the ONLY important thing--and the so called college 'educated' people who are the ones running those companies that have outsourced manufacturing, and you have the results we have to put up with today.

Funny thing is that the costs of overseas manufacturing is going up fast, and some companies (far too few) have started bringing manufacturing back to this country.  The only problem is that it is too little--and far too late.

So you people who want those cheap Chinese HTs, radios and other cheap products keep buying them.  At the same time, let the US manufacturers keep pushing prices on US made goods up simply because the demand for US goods isn't there.  You've ruined this country's economic base already--what more damage can you do?
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2014, 09:44:54 AM »

Believe me when the dust settles China will not be the winner!
I actually feel very sorry for the Chinese people, their government is selling them out with a dream of becoming an economic super power when in fact they are destroying their own country so fast that the damage is already irreversible.   Have you seen information on the levels of ground, water and air pollution in China?  By almost any standard the country has just about become uninhabitable.  This is not a problem that is only found near the big cities but extends all over the country.  China has been strip mining whole mountains and washing the waste down the rivers, they dump so much pollutants into the rivers that many of them have actually changed color and all fish life has died.


Many Rivers look like this from strip mining.


Thats Chemical Dye from all the clothing factories


Just one of many polluted rivers

The Chinese are looking at health issues that will burden them for generations to come, they will also be eating and drinking Toxic food for probably the next 100 years.  Add on to that the fact that they have also exhausted just about every natural resource and you can see a huge long term disaster is looming for them.

 I expect that in 10 years time the Western countries will just say thank you to the Chinese for 30 years of cheap products and bye bye China now that you have become a burnt out husk.
What you are seeing is the planets largest Haiti in the making.
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K0JEG
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2014, 10:33:42 AM »

Usually, final assembly of electronics happens in China. The components are made all over the world, including the US.

Gorilla Glass, for example, is made in 3 plants around the world: Harrodsburg, Kentucky (USA), Shizuoka (Japan) and in Taiwan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Glass#Manufacture

The chips are made everywhere (including the US) too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants - note that TI, Intel and even Samsung have "fabs" in the US. Traditionally the most difficult to manufacture chips are made in the US.

The software and hardware design is all developed in the US, especially Apple products (which are typically shunned by Hams). Microsoft and Google have a large presence in Ireland as well as the US.
http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/about/
http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/inside/locations/dublin/index.html

China gets all the press because bashing China is easy.
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K1PJR
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2014, 04:39:59 AM »

I'm with KD8JMR. They are slowly destroying themselves. Their cities are dying slowly but surly. It's only a matter of time before they are in some serious trouble.
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W1JKA
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2014, 05:34:24 AM »

No problem,the Chinese elite and major industries will just relocate to the U.S. in return for the unpayable debt the U.S now owes to them.
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