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KD8MJR
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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2014, 11:23:22 PM »

And if you understand that the healthcare industry is one of the 1 percenters greatest assets you would then understand why none of this is a problem for either party. We the people ultimately do the fighting, and we Pay the bills to them for caring for the brave men who sacrificed to make another part of their business grow. In this case oil companies.
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W1JKA
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2014, 05:10:24 AM »

Read the book " The Seven Sisters" by Anthony Sampson, all your questions about this topic and why things are the way they are today will be answered.
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K9MHZ
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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2014, 08:35:34 AM »

Democrats united allies and won WW2. Also last balanced budget with no debt was a democrat, Kennedy. Last time debt was paid down was also a Democrats, Clinton. The most explosive expansion of the debt was under GOP. During Reagan it increased over 15 fold. When he took office the debt was about 150 billion. He increased it to over 2 trillion (actually higher because they rolled is SS surplus to mask true debt which was over 3 trillion. GOP never talks about that. Bush junior took a 1.3 trillion surplus and added 7 trillion to debt. GOP is great for talking the talk but not walking it. We are not going to cut our way out of this.

This is true as a function of PERCENTAGES of debt increase when looking at a given president's tenure.   But in real amounts, actual stacks of worthless paper printed and spent, nobody even comes close to Obama.   





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W8JX
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2014, 10:04:16 AM »

There was only one party and a few people that wanted that war and cooked the facts to support it and they were not Democrats.  Also only GOP would push a big tax cut favoring wealthy during a war and borrow from China to pay for it. Funny how they blame new guy for mess old guy left.
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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2014, 10:14:04 AM »

Also only GOP would push a big tax cut favoring wealthy during a war and borrow from China to pay for it.

This was an incredible bit of hypocrisy from the party that likes to talk about individual responsibility and not passing debt on to future generations. Of course, hypocrisy is a stock-in-trade for politicians of all stripes.
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K9MHZ
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« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2014, 10:56:22 AM »

There was only one party and a few people that wanted that war and cooked the facts to support it and they were not Democrats. 


Hmmmmm......like Vietnam?   Oh well, this could go on and on, and it's probably the wrong venue.  I do agree that big cash is king, and everyone knows it.  There's a saying that "people go to Congress to do good, and come out having done very well."  Many of those people AND Obama have such magnanimous personalities that they thrive in the game.  Check out the moves they make come reelection time....so brazen and obvious, but giving up the lifestyle is so unthinkable to them.  That belongs to both political persuasions, and we're expected to get on their bandwagons and charge up a hill with them on some idealistic thinking that they couldn't care less about themselves.

We're the chumps, folks.   
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G3RZP
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« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2014, 02:27:16 AM »

It seems to me that these days, in every country, an election means a choice between the 'bad' and the  'no better'.
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AA4PB
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« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2014, 05:51:14 AM »

...or in many cases a choice between "dumb" and "dumber"  Wink
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K1CJS
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« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2014, 11:13:08 AM »

There was only one party and a few people that wanted that war and cooked the facts to support it and they were not Democrats. 


Hmmmmm......like Vietnam?...

Pardon, but we got into Vietnam during the Eisenhower presidency, even if when Kennedy got in our role was expanded.  Eisenhower wasn't a Democrat....
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WS3N
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« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2014, 12:15:51 PM »

There was only one party and a few people that wanted that war and cooked the facts to support it and they were not Democrats. 


Hmmmmm......like Vietnam?...

Pardon, but we got into Vietnam during the Eisenhower presidency, even if when Kennedy got in our role was expanded.  Eisenhower wasn't a Democrat....

Perhaps he was referring to the part about the cooked facts. Bush had the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution as a precedent. According to Wikipedia, only two senators, both Democrats, were opposed to Johnson's escalation. Things never change.
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2014, 05:35:52 AM »

Thanks for the correction.  It wasn't Kennedy who greatly expanded our role in Vietnam, it was Johnson--another Democrat.  Although it could well be argued that he was really on the Republican side--connected with big oil and big business.  Kennedy, however, had his own reasons for what he did--and didn't--do.
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W1JKA
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2014, 06:30:28 AM »

 Anybody notiticed there is never any Washington partisan politics when it comes to big business stock ownership?
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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2014, 09:17:50 PM »

In addition to living in the USA, I've lived in India and in China (I don't consider my year in Vietnam during the war as living). 

India is a wonderful country to visit,  We have traveled all over it and the service in the hotels is excellent.  In spite of having 14 major languages, both spoken and written, with over 200 dialects, the educated use English as a link language.  My brother-in-law, a cardiac surgeon in Chennai told me that in the operating room only English is spoken.  That is a definite advantage.

The Hindu religion puts a large emphasis on education.  You owe it to your god to learn as much as you can.  So many are highly educated.  Unfortunately, what I've observed is that for the most part they only think based on what they learn i.e. there is no "thinking outside the box".

The Chinese: God, I love the Chinese.  They are the most hard working people I've ever come across.  Unfortunately, because of their language it is very difficult for them to speak English.  The negative: you don't see them smile.  They still live under fear and oppression.  Then as mentioned previously in this thread: the pollution.   I can only speak of Shanghai, where we lived twice and I never once saw blue sky, but I understand it is worse in the north.

Another great thing about Shanghai was that I could go anywhere on foot without fear.  This was not the same in India where I was not allowed to go out without my driver.  The only problem I ever had in Shanghai was on the subway.  On the subway women would get up and want me to take their seat.  I quickly learned that it was easier to accept it than to refuse it.  In someway it made them feel happier that they gave this old foreign man their seat.

Hypothetically, I've invented a widget.  New York has a big advertisement over and over and over on TV to come to NY to open a business and not pay taxes.  NY is not a right to work state.  So if I open my plant in NY I may have to deal with unions.  I'll also have to deal with OSHA, EPA, and let us not forget the "Affordable Care Act", which is not so affordable.  How much Scotch have I had to drink?  If I go back to NY (I grew up in Syracuse), as the CEO I'll have to pay personal state income taxes as will all my employees.  The USA doesn't import enough Scotch for me to drink to go back to NY.

So where do I go to build my widgets?  China?  Nope, it has gotten too expensive.  Vietnam seems to be a better choice, but I'm thinking that Manila might be better because the people have a better command of the English language.

In college I remember hearing that "Democracy works until people learn that they can vote for those that will dole out to them from the common treasury.  BO has put more people on food stamps, run up the national debt, which will wipe our savings as the dollar becomes worthless, and put the USA on a path to destruction.  This is the "change" he promised.

As the economy collapses what will happen?  Riots in the streets?  They can't have that until they first disarm the populace.  So expect for the "safety of the citizens" they collect guns.  It is starting now in Missouri if the Democrats have their way.  (Same thing happened in Germany prior to WWII).

Sorry folks, but I can't blame the Chinese.  The real problem is right here in the USA.  The fight against Communism aka Socialism continues and there is no doubt that we have a socialist as a leader.  We are dying from within. 

P.S. If you want really good Chinese food don't go to Shanghai go to the Oberoi hotel in Bangalore.  The Indians add spices that the Chinese don't have. 
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K9AIM
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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2014, 10:59:15 PM »


Sorry folks, but I can't blame the Chinese.  The real problem is right here in the USA.  The fight against Communism aka Socialism continues and there is no doubt that we have a socialist as a leader.  We are dying from within. 


This kind of nonsense isn't helpful.  The problem in the US is that the top 1% have taken all the gains in productivity and efficiency over the last several decades for themselves while sharing less with the labor that produces those profits.  The great thing about America used to be that average working people had a decent standard of living.  With myopic greed those at the very top have undermined even that and in addition to pitting union against non-union workers they have also used third-world workers to further divide workers against workers and erode the living wages American workers used to be paid for their labor.





    Total Net Worth
           Top 1%    Next 19%    Bottom 80%
  1983   33.8%   47.5%   18.7%
  1989   37.4%   46.2%   16.5%
  1992   37.2%   46.6%   16.2%
  1995   38.5%   45.4%   16.1%
  1998   38.1%   45.3%   16.6%
  2001   33.4%   51.0%   15.6%
  2004   34.3%   50.3%   15.3%
  2007   34.6%   50.5%   15.0%
  2010   35.4%   53.5%   11.1%


The top 1% and the big corporations are our modern day tyrants.  They employ a small middle class to manage their wealth and keep the lower class at bay. Our military is employed around the globe to protect their assets in the name of 'freedom.'  They own the politicians on both sides of the aisle.  The similarities between Bush and Obama far outweigh the differences Fox Noise and MSNBC like to trumpet. The illusion of choice keeps everyone divided and there is no end in sight.

They use wedge issues like guns and abortion and whatever else Republicans and Democrats disagree about to keep people off track of the real game at hand which is representing the ECONOMIC interests of the very, very wealthy. Both sides do that together and that is why both parties get obscene amounts of campaign financing from big money and why the Supreme Court pretends that buying our democracy is Constitutionally protected.

If Obama were a socialist he would never have gotten nominated let alone elected as President.  Have we gone so far right that our scales are so mis-calibrated that a moderate capitalist who isn't extreme right is called a socialist?   One of the reasons so many are on food stamps today is because of the low wages being paid. 

    Who gets food stamps?

    The most recent Department of Agriculture report on the general characteristics of the SNAP program's beneficiaries says that in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, 2010:

    ••47% of beneficiaries were children under age 18.

    ••8% were age 60 or older.

    ••41% lived in a household with earnings from a job -- the so-called "working poor."

    ••The average household received a monthly benefit of $287.

    ••36% were white (non-Hispanic), 22% were African American (non-Hispanic) and 10% were Hispanic. [USA Today, 1/18/12, emphasis original]

And at the very same time the politicians and SHOUT Radio hosts cleverly point at the poor as takers, ridiculous tax breaks and corporate welfare programs exist to help banks, oil companies and other fat cats raid the public purse with comparatively little attention.

You can point out it has always been thus across the globe and largely you are right.  But this increasing disparity has been getting worse and worse and it is a threat to all of us -- including those at the very top. 

No 'ism' -- be it socialism or capitalism -- is the answer.  Being aware of the real problem rather than the false ones used to divide us is the first step to coming up with an answer. 

The real problem is we focus on and fight over superficial differences instead of figuring our how to ensure advances in productivity and technology raise the quality of life of everyone and not just the few.  In other words we let greed, politics and partisan bickering prevent us from having the wisdom to leave a better world for our grandchildren.   Albert Einstein's words are as true today as the day he uttered them: “Not until the creation and maintenance of decent conditions of life for all people are recognized and accepted as a common obligation of all people and all countries - not until then shall we, with a certain degree of justification, be able to speak of humankind as civilized.”

Maybe it is foolhardy to have high expectations for human beings.  We are primates after all, and we live more in imagination than anywhere else.  Such an incredible ability to imagine what is not actual needs a lot of experience before it naturally selects what has  sustainable value.  We are still in our infancy as a species, but one hopes we can someday progress past adolescence.
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« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2014, 12:00:46 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc
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