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Author Topic: Which to Keep: R71 or FRG-100?  (Read 18223 times)
K4ED
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« on: January 04, 2015, 03:36:44 PM »

I have both an IcoM R-71a and a Yaesu FRG-100. I use these as either secondary monitoring of ham bands, a second receiver beyond the transceiver, or to casually listen to SWL or AM broadcast while working in the shack. 

As expected, the R71 is great at pulling out weak signals and has more noise fighting ability.  I use it as the "2nd receiver."

The FRG-100 sounds better so I use it for broadcast listening on SWL and AM. 

However, one gets to stay, the other will get sold.

The R-71 was bought bought new in 1989.  The Icom has never had the memory battery replaced so I know I need one of the memory board replacement if I keep it.  I am also worried that sooner or later, the caps in the R71 power supply will need to be replaced.

The FGR-100 was new in 1998.  As far as I know, it needs nothing ... for now.  In truth, I do not know much about long term maintenance needs for an FRG-100

So, which would you keep and why?   Which will I have to put more time and effort into keeping at peak performance?  Which might "add more" to the shack?  I do already have a great receiver in the transceiver ...
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HFCRUSR
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 10:38:22 AM »

Why get rid of either? They don't take up that much room Grin
since I have an r71a I am biased toward saying keep that one based upon its attributes you mentioned. Mine sounds great on an external center-channel speaker..even better when run through my A/V receiver dedicated to the shack radios-did yours get modded with the EEB mods that included audio? If so, try a good external speaker or amp-they are huge plusses over the built-in speaker.
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AC2NZ
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 08:35:16 AM »

Both are great receivers, so if you can do so why not keep both? It's always handy to have a backup or spare, just in case. Yes, you'll need either a Willco or a Piexx RAM board for the Icom - and you'll find a QSYer keypad a great addition to the Yeasu, but either should give you years of use.

You didn't mention the make and model of your transceiver, so it's hard to help you with a decision. OTOH, you implied that you're leaning toward keeping the Icom.

I think either way you'll be happy with the one you keep, and at the same time sorry you let the other go!
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KD7RDZI2
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 03:04:56 AM »

These radios are not consumer electronics and, notwithstanding DSP and SDRs, will never become obsolete.

Apart from the memory board mod that seems mandatory, I would do nothing with caps if this involves a lot of work. I know they might fail but if you turn the R71 on once every month the might keep going several years more.
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SWMAN
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 07:38:51 AM »

I would keep the little FRG just because I have one and like it a lot. I can't really speak for the Icom though, never had one.
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KC2QYM
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2015, 07:44:37 AM »

Sell both receivers and buy a new transceiver that can also be used for communications.  You might get $700 to $900 for both of these radios.. For a few hundred dollars more you'll have a new DSP receiver based rig.  That's what I would do if it were me.  These decisions are no brainers. Most rigs in the $1000 to $1600 price range have great DSP based receivers.   Or just dump the radio that doesn't sound as good and keep the other.
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RENTON481
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 02:59:49 PM »

I know of people who have Yaesu FRG-7's (70's technology) which still work like a gem 35 years later -- I'd favor the Yaesu.

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K1DA
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2015, 08:04:05 AM »

Pulling a R 71 power supply isn't that hard.  You can also run it from an outboard 12 volts and get rid of any hum.
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W8ADQ
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2015, 09:18:57 AM »

Hi,

Sorry that you have to get rid of either of them.  Ahh, the truth is I am envious.  Smiley

Both are wonderful.

73,
Jack W8ADQ
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VK2NZA
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2015, 01:17:39 AM »

Having used both of these receivers I would say that they both have their good aspects, pity you can't keep both!
However my choice would be to keep the R71A as when in good alignment this is an excellent dx chaser, very sensitive, fitted with the  optional FL44a 2.4khz IF filter the adjacent selectivity is excellent for slicing between close signals.
Some have complained of the AM audio being muddy from the inboard speaker I find that with a suitable outboard speaker mine is fine. It may be sample variation although the AF control is poorly weighted giving almost full volume at around 30% of its total rotation. I also use an outboard AF DSP speaker that does clean up the audio although I am a big fan of non DSP receivers.
The R71a in my shack sits alongside a JRC NRD 535 , R 5000 Kenwood, IC 765 IC7200 , IC7410 Icoms.
 I still find the R71a a favorite for superb  SSB reception and a very selective and sensitive receiver for AM DX.
I will be selling my JRC 535 to make space for a new transceiver but will be keeping the R71A.
Bear in mind the age of the unit as caps may need replacing,as with most older electronics but capacitor replacement kits are available and the PIEXX Ramm replacements take care of the RAMM failing if backup battery dies.
Also I prefer to use on all of my equipment direct DC supply to avoid the extra heat and AC hum.
The Icom is an iconic receiver for a good reason!
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N8FVJ
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2016, 01:28:11 PM »

I vote Yaesu. Who needs the Icom radio operating software in volatile RAM and subject to becoming brain dead!
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AE5X
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 04:36:00 AM »

Sell them both and buy one of these:
http://shop.elad-usa.com/sdr-radio/fdm-s2/

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KC2QYM
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 09:01:42 AM »

There is a tactile relationship between the operator and a substantial piece of equipment.  Although SDR radios are the 'craze' today I would rather buy my radios by the pound. Cant see spending $500 plus for some one pound piece of technology when there are so many radios around with aesthetic features...OK, maybe they don't have the performance of the SDRs but they're more than adequate to please at lower used prices.
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AUSSIE
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2016, 11:52:35 AM »

Hi personally would keep the Icom-R71 got the R70,R71A,R75 and there performance is excellent main intrest is to monitor hf aircraft around the world do have sdr from elad,rf space,
winradio but there performance is not that good unless you are into listening to radio stations which personally i think its a waste of time even my wideband receivers receive hf aircraft better the the sdr did have a Yaesu FRG100 and regret selling it.

Regards Lino.
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KJ6NWU
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2016, 01:47:19 PM »

Sell them both and buy an old Hammarlund or Collins.  Tongue

Honestly, I have the IC-R71a and would never sell it.

KJ6NWU
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