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Author Topic: Do You Routinely "Open Up" Your Transmitters?  (Read 18759 times)
K1CJS
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« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2014, 06:14:39 AM »

No individual or government entity can own the radio frequency spectrum any more than they can own the visible light spectrum. What we have, for practicality's sake, is a flexible agreement between individuals, services and governments regarding the usage of the spectrum.

I doubt that transmitting "out of band" on your little Baofeng or CB will bring about the End of the World or cause serious harm to anyone. Some people just get irritated when others don't follow the arbitrary rules the bureaucrats have currently instituted.

And you actually have a ham license?  If you tried anything like that and were caught, say goodbye to that license, for the US government has said time and again that they take the position that they DO own the airwaves, and only lets us (licenses us to) use them.  Some of those "arbitrary rules" are on the books for good reason.  

I agree that there are many rules that don't belong on the books, but seeing that certain portions of the airwaves are there for life safety (in one way or another) and law enforcement, the rules (laws) that keep people off those bands are there for very good reasons and are not in any way 'arbitrary.'
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« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2014, 08:48:16 AM »

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arbitrary rules the bureaucrats have currently instituted.

Damn that Radio Act of 1912 and William Howard Taft.
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« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2014, 08:52:12 AM »

No individual or government entity can own the radio frequency spectrum any more than they can own the visible light spectrum. What we have, for practicality's sake, is a flexible agreement between individuals, services and governments regarding the usage of the spectrum.

Sure we do...  Lets see you sell off a chunk of spectrum like the Government can.
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AC5UP
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« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2014, 09:10:31 AM »

The FCC has been skating a fine line on the ownership question for the nearly 20 years since it started auctioning spectrum.
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« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2014, 08:59:14 PM »

Just to get the dust out................ 
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N4TTS
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« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2014, 04:43:38 PM »

Yep, all these innocent, well meaning folks only "open up" their radios in case of an unfathomable emergency situation where they could save the day by communicating directly with first responders.
After all in a SHTF scenario, it's all legal and we can be heroes (pronounced hee-rows).

Horse crap I say. Just like these fine, upstanding amateur radio ops. Right?

http://www.fcc.gov/document/terry-l-van-volkenburg

http://www.fcc.gov/document/jose-torres-0

http://www.fcc.gov/document/teodoro-rodriguez-lehigh-acres-fl

Don N4TTS
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AC5UP
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« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2014, 05:09:28 PM »


Coming Up Next:    WHEN GOOD AMATEURS GO BAD.......   LICENSED THRILLSEEKERS INTENT ON BREAKING OHM'S LAW !



BTW:   Didja' notice what the last two d00ds were busted for?   TX on 26.71 and 26.70 MHz respectively.    Tsk. Tsk.

Long ago and far away in a place called the 90's it wasn't unusual to see Latino CBer's at the sidewalk sale in Dallas on the prowl for FT-101's that could be 're-purposed'.
Apparently it was considered way cool to shoot skips across the Rio Grande and Hola! down Mexico way when ol' Sol permitted. I stopped RX'ing the freeband around that time.

As they say in London:  Different strokes for different blokes.    Wink
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« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2014, 05:28:43 PM »

 Sure do.

Just because I can.   Cool
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« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2014, 06:44:25 AM »

A lot of the whiners complaining about "opened up" rigs seem to have conveniently forgotten that the old boat anchors ALL could transmit out of band right out of the box. Its the users responsibility to use the rig properly and legally. Many commercially made amplifiers are easily capable of exceeding the legal limit. It's the amateurs responsibility to run it within the rules. It's all about personal responsibility. Making "nanny state" rigs and amplifiers is ridiculous. Besides what's to prevent some idiot from abusing the legal bands anyway as we hear all over now?
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« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2014, 07:30:05 AM »

A lot of the whiners complaining about "opened up" rigs seem to have conveniently forgotten that the old boat anchors ALL could transmit out of band right out of the box. Its the users responsibility to use the rig properly and legally.

OMG You used the R word, responsibility!  Careful or this thread will get locked for some unknown rules violation because the admins are worried about everything spoken or thought...  Oh wait, this is E-Ham, never mind...  Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2014, 08:38:10 AM »

 It is becoming increasingly clear where the current state of CB - like disregard for operating respect is coming from . As well as why it is on the rise .
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« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2014, 05:24:24 PM »

I bought a 2nd Kenwood TS850SAT that had been "opened up" so the previous [ham] owner could use it on 11m. Coincidentally, it has issues with transmitting noticeable spurious trash. It's pretty bad.  IME, it also got the Golden Screwdriver treatment. It will remain off the air until it has been returned to proper operation.

A former friend & relatively new ham does a lot of buying & selling of ham gear.  He has stated that he ALWAYS "opens up" a rig before reselling it.  He has also stated that he doesn't know Ohm's Law.   Shocked

vy 73,
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« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2014, 07:01:08 PM »

Absolutely!! Every one of my commercial radios is opened up to operate on the ham bands!! Tongue

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Larry, N2HBX
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K1CJS
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« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2014, 06:09:35 AM »

It is becoming increasingly clear where the current state of CB - like disregard for operating respect is coming from . As well as why it is on the rise .

You didn't hear the 11 meter band at the time that the FCC washed their hands of it, did you?  It was way, way worse than it is now.  The lack of respect that is being spoken of has been getting worse and worse from one year to the next with everything, not just radio comms.
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« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2014, 12:40:36 PM »

No , I didn't hear CB when the FCC "washed their hands" . Again , I never listen there .
If CB is better now you are somewhat contradicting the last line of your statement .

 On the other hand , if indeed it did get better (probably far fewer CBers today than in the Smokey and the Bandit days) and at the same time amateur radio slipped into the abyss , it could be the missing CBers now have ham licenses .  Sure sounds like it . 
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