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Author Topic: PayPal (or lack thereof)  (Read 14440 times)
W1JKA
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« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2014, 03:22:24 AM »

Re: K9OJT  reply #58

Going way off Topic: As you expected this is the standard MO in any Forum, consider that if the first response in your post was reply #23 (last line) it would have been short lived indeed and a big disappointed to most of us here who like to stir up a hornet's nest of interest without getting stung.

A few years ago in an unrelated Forum I asked a question about a particular 2 man tent for back packing I was interested in buying, after 3 pages of responses it was highly recommended that  I would be much happier and comfortable if I bought a $60,000.00 Mini Winnie motor home. Actually this going off topic from a tent to a motor home helped me immensely with my decision, I bought the tent.

So keep on posting new Topics and be assured that a few will respond to your original intent and the rest will do their up most to fill in with off and in between Topic responses.

Speaking of off Topic, how's this? and don't forget your WES contacts today.
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K1CJS
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« Reply #61 on: April 26, 2014, 05:50:30 AM »

IN GOD WE TRUST, translated this means only God can be trusted

We are a Multi-God Nation/World. Which God do we trust? All of them? Or just the one that is the Seller's God.  Cheesy

that's easy.  collectively it is pretty clear that our God (whether secular or non-secular) is the almighty $.   

To go even further off target, (and possibly open a new can of worms) don't be so generalized in your wording.  Some of us still believe in the Almighty God, and the so-called almighty dollar is, no matter which way you look at it, one entity--money.
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« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2014, 01:51:44 PM »

any idea how much the Catholic church is worth?  hint: it is $taggering
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« Reply #63 on: April 26, 2014, 02:04:32 PM »

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"In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956 as an alternative or replacement to the unofficial motto of E pluribus unum, which was adopted when the Great Seal of the United States was created and adopted in 1782.

"In God we trust" first appeared on U.S. coins in 1864 and has appeared on paper currency since 1957. Some secularists object to its use.

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The Pledge of Allegiance

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by the socialist minister Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.

In its original form it read:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
In 1923, the words, "the Flag of the United States of America" were added. At this time it read:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

In 1954, in response to the Communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words "under God," creating the 31-word pledge we say today. Bellamy's daughter objected to this alteration. Today it reads:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
(source: Wiki)

what happened to separation of church and state in the above two instances Huh
(apologies to all the non-US hams)
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« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2014, 07:33:53 AM »

Pushing the topic even further out--

You're going to site the separation of church and state for the Pledge of Allegiance?  I'll say again what the original intent of "separation of church and state" was:  It was to stop and keep the church--ANY church--out of the direct control of government, not to stop them from being associated with each other.  

With the way the people of this country are and the political correctness bullshit that's floating around now, and the way some few people interpret things and then try to force the way they think on everyone else, it's no wonder this country is in the mess that it's in.  Maybe it's time we went back to accepting who we in this country have so recently rejected--God, in whatever form the individual may choose.

Now, (for me, at least) back to the original thread!  
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« Reply #65 on: April 27, 2014, 07:57:22 AM »

Pushing the topic even further out--

You're going to site the separation of church and state for the Pledge of Allegiance?  I'll say again what the original intent of "separation of church and state" was:  It was to stop and keep the church--ANY church--out of the direct control of government, not to stop them from being associated with each other.  

With the way the people of this country are and the political correctness bullshit that's floating around now, and the way some few people interpret things and then try to force the way they think on everyone else, it's no wonder this country is in the mess that it's in.  Maybe it's time we went back to accepting who we in this country have so recently rejected--God, in whatever form the individual may choose.

Now, (for me, at least) back to the original thread!  
I bet my Church would take Paypal...  Smiley
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K1CJS
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« Reply #66 on: April 27, 2014, 08:53:33 AM »

Bet they would!   Grin
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« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2014, 09:14:29 AM »

CJS:  Rev. Ike's church wouldn't!   Grin  I recall some years ago Rev. Ike was one of the TV evangelists and his ushers used plastic barrels for collecting the offering.

He said, "He didn't want to HEAR anything going into those collection vessels!" He just wanted folding money.
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« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2014, 10:01:55 AM »


With the way the people of this country are and the political correctness bullshit that's floating around now, and the way some few people interpret things and then try to force the way they think on everyone else, it's no wonder this country is in the mess that it's in.

okay, i am with you on the opposition to operation bullshit, so to that end here are some quotes that put political correctness aside in the interest of truth:  

Quote from: Thomas Jefferson
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.


Quote from: Edmond De Goncourt
If there is a God, atheism must seem like less of an insult to Him than religion

Quote from: Ambrose Bierce
Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable

and here are a few that brings us back to the topic of Pay:

Quote from: Mark Twain
"Satan hasn't a singled salaried helper; the Opposition employs  a million"
 

Quote from: Ambrose Bierce
Mammon, n. The god of the world's leading religion. His chief temple is in the city of New York
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K1CJS
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« Reply #69 on: April 27, 2014, 11:31:05 AM »

Also consider that if there is a God, God gave us freedom of choice.  That's why we can choose to worship God in one of God's many forms--or not.

As to the salaries quote, it may well be true--but consider this:  God didn't invent religion, it was man who invented that, and that includes the collections, alms and donations to any and all churches and religions.  All God wants from us is our acknowledgement of God AS God.

I'll quit now, before I'm thought of (and referred to) as one of those religious nutcases!  73!  
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« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2014, 01:39:52 PM »

PB:  That's exactly what I do.  If it gets hacked or whatever, it's going to be a very small amount.  Matter of fact I have that account burned down to $25.00 at the present time.   Roll Eyes

i don't know the exact odds, but i'd bet your bank is more likely to rip you off than Paypal is  Wink

anyone had a problem with Paypal access to their bank account?  it seems to me that if there is an unauthorized transaction to your account it undermines both Paypal and your bank so both will go to great lengths to protect your money.  Paypal is only in  business because it works.  right  Huh  anyone  Huh

Well, a buyer sent 1600 to my pp and pp lopped 46 off the top. I don't think so.
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« Reply #71 on: May 15, 2014, 02:31:23 PM »

"Well, a buyer sent 1600 to my pp and pp lopped 46 off the top."

That 3% is called the cost of doing business. Did UPS deliver your $1600 package to your customer for free? Check sometime to see what it costs to set up accounts with Visa and Master Card so that you can accept credit cards directly.

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« Reply #72 on: May 15, 2014, 02:56:56 PM »

Yeah. No. A check in a envelope is a lot cheaper.
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« Reply #73 on: May 15, 2014, 04:08:06 PM »

It's even cheaper (for you) if you make the customer come over, bring cash, and carry the goods home with him.  Wink

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« Reply #74 on: May 16, 2014, 10:57:32 AM »

When I sell things, I always build-in transaction costs including eBay or Paypal fees. When I buy things via Paypal from people who don't traditionally use it (like 1-off payments), I always calculate and add to the total so that they get what they expect after fees.
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