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W8JX
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« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2014, 10:49:51 AM »

Hello.

Microsoft has a back door, and I try and stay away.
VoIP works well, can be secure, and run on most platforms.
Skype was secure, US law requires some things be done.
But, what if you loaded non US compliant VoIP?
The US law limited exports of some types of encryption.
Anyone remember "Clipper", that wonderful US encryption scheme?
Omni was the UK version.
PGP is the free world version.
The Russians have GLONASS, and it can be used to encrypt signals, just like the US system, but the Russians will let anyone do it.
The effort to keep up with it makes it secure, as the ever moving key needs to be captured in real time.
True, everyone is using the same rolling code, but has their own key, and a public key.
Hackers are beginning to exploit this, on tablets, phones, etc.
So, the feds say that there can be no GLONASS only mode on US devices.


Unless you have something to hide there is not a problem. A court order is required to open door. Apple secretly tracked Iphone users locations for years until it was found by a hacker in 2013. Apple said it was a "mistake". Their only likely mistake was not hiding it well enough.
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« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2014, 03:34:16 AM »

  I still can't figure out why the current generation of younger folks are all wound up about hackers,  cell phone, Skype, VOIP etc. communications privacy since all the older generation was brought up in this environment via switchboard operators, party lines, phone taps etc. and thought nothing of it. Hell, if you have something to hide or want secret communications just have both parties invest their monthly $80-150 cell phone plans into a cheap transceiver instead, this way they can communicate mobile, out of band via cw/ssb number stations without need for any license or fees.  
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« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2014, 10:45:26 AM »

Hello.

The reason the new generation is so  concerned is that it is possible to wipe out an entire bank account in a matter of seconds.
The era of switchboards is done.
And, hackers love the VX-3r for short range chats.
Now, in the old era, the police were not as aggressive, entire SWAT teams with tanks!
But, kids did not carry guns to school!
In short, things have changed.

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« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2014, 11:48:47 AM »

Not only bank accounts but they can steal your personal information, take out loans and credit cards in your name and ruin your credit rating taking a very long time and a lot of effort to straighten out.

On the other hand, they worry about NSA knowing what phone numbers they talk to but freely post loads of personal information, pictures of their kids, etc. on Face Book. Go figure  Wink

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W8JX
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« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2014, 05:22:01 PM »

Not only bank accounts but they can steal your personal information, take out loans and credit cards in your name and ruin your credit rating taking a very long time and a lot of effort to straighten out.

On the other hand, they worry about NSA knowing what phone numbers they talk to but freely post loads of personal information, pictures of their kids, etc. on Face Book. Go figure  Wink



Very true!
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KE7TMA
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« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2014, 08:55:32 PM »

Hello.

Microsoft has a back door, and I try and stay away.
VoIP works well, can be secure, and run on most platforms.
Skype was secure, US law requires some things be done.
But, what if you loaded non US compliant VoIP?
The US law limited exports of some types of encryption.
Anyone remember "Clipper", that wonderful US encryption scheme?
Omni was the UK version.
PGP is the free world version.
The Russians have GLONASS, and it can be used to encrypt signals, just like the US system, but the Russians will let anyone do it.
The effort to keep up with it makes it secure, as the ever moving key needs to be captured in real time.
True, everyone is using the same rolling code, but has their own key, and a public key.
Hackers are beginning to exploit this, on tablets, phones, etc.
So, the feds say that there can be no GLONASS only mode on US devices.


Unless you have something to hide there is not a problem. A court order is required to open door. Apple secretly tracked Iphone users locations for years until it was found by a hacker in 2013. Apple said it was a "mistake". Their only likely mistake was not hiding it well enough.

If you think that the authorities need a court order to spy on you, you have been asleep for a year.  They will spy on you illegally.  Now this kind of spying is available to your local cops too - better hope the sheriff likes you.
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W8JX
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« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2014, 04:35:16 AM »

Hello.

Microsoft has a back door, and I try and stay away.
VoIP works well, can be secure, and run on most platforms.
Skype was secure, US law requires some things be done.
But, what if you loaded non US compliant VoIP?
The US law limited exports of some types of encryption.
Anyone remember "Clipper", that wonderful US encryption scheme?
Omni was the UK version.
PGP is the free world version.
The Russians have GLONASS, and it can be used to encrypt signals, just like the US system, but the Russians will let anyone do it.
The effort to keep up with it makes it secure, as the ever moving key needs to be captured in real time.
True, everyone is using the same rolling code, but has their own key, and a public key.
Hackers are beginning to exploit this, on tablets, phones, etc.
So, the feds say that there can be no GLONASS only mode on US devices.


Unless you have something to hide there is not a problem. A court order is required to open door. Apple secretly tracked Iphone users locations for years until it was found by a hacker in 2013. Apple said it was a "mistake". Their only likely mistake was not hiding it well enough.

If you think that the authorities need a court order to spy on you, you have been asleep for a year.  They will spy on you illegally.  Now this kind of spying is available to your local cops too - better hope the sheriff likes you.

If it was one half the problem you make it out to be there would be a lot of people in trouble for their thoughts. People want to be safe and yet watch for terror cells and yet what to make it hard to glean potential data. Some countries banned blackberry messenger for a while because it is very secure and pretty much impossible to hack without help from blackberry.
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« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2014, 04:36:55 AM »

 
  Folks used to whisper and talk in low voices to each other about personal laundry, now they amplify it for everybody via the internet sites. Folks used to make trips to brick and mortar financial institutions to take care of their personal finances, now they use the internet where hackers can hijack their accounts anywhere along the way, all in the so called political correct term of CONVENIENCE. So if you enjoy quick public exposure of your personal life and financial dealings, more power to you and GL.

 

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W8JX
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« Reply #53 on: June 12, 2014, 07:04:25 AM »


  Folks used to whisper and talk in low voices to each other about personal laundry, now they amplify it for everybody via the internet sites. Folks used to make trips to brick and mortar financial institutions to take care of their personal finances, now they use the internet where hackers can hijack their accounts anywhere along the way, all in the so called political correct term of CONVENIENCE. So if you enjoy quick public exposure of your personal life and financial dealings, more power to you and GL.


Never been a hack of a SSL remote banking login that I am aware of. Pretty hard to do as the encryption changes every-time you log in.  The hacks have been from getting into servers on a few occasions or local software on device gleaning personal info. 
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« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2014, 07:14:14 PM »


  Folks used to whisper and talk in low voices to each other about personal laundry, now they amplify it for everybody via the internet sites. Folks used to make trips to brick and mortar financial institutions to take care of their personal finances, now they use the internet where hackers can hijack their accounts anywhere along the way, all in the so called political correct term of CONVENIENCE. So if you enjoy quick public exposure of your personal life and financial dealings, more power to you and GL.

Enter Facebook, Twitter, and the other "social networking" sites.  Used to be that you called your friends up and talked about issues, now you post them in these sites--and the way sites are set up, EVERYBODY can see what you post depending on the way the 'friends' list is set up.

IOW, People don't have to worry about hacking and spying--they do it to themselves by social networking their thoughts, gripes and dirty laundry.
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KE7TMA
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« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2014, 01:22:12 PM »


  Folks used to whisper and talk in low voices to each other about personal laundry, now they amplify it for everybody via the internet sites. Folks used to make trips to brick and mortar financial institutions to take care of their personal finances, now they use the internet where hackers can hijack their accounts anywhere along the way, all in the so called political correct term of CONVENIENCE. So if you enjoy quick public exposure of your personal life and financial dealings, more power to you and GL.

Enter Facebook, Twitter, and the other "social networking" sites.  Used to be that you called your friends up and talked about issues, now you post them in these sites--and the way sites are set up, EVERYBODY can see what you post depending on the way the 'friends' list is set up.

IOW, People don't have to worry about hacking and spying--they do it to themselves by social networking their thoughts, gripes and dirty laundry.

Ah, that tired canard.  Just because some people engage in social media networking, this doesn't mean that the government should have the right to run roughshod over the 4th amendment.
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« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2014, 01:29:52 PM »


  Folks used to whisper and talk in low voices to each other about personal laundry, now they amplify it for everybody via the internet sites. Folks used to make trips to brick and mortar financial institutions to take care of their personal finances, now they use the internet where hackers can hijack their accounts anywhere along the way, all in the so called political correct term of CONVENIENCE. So if you enjoy quick public exposure of your personal life and financial dealings, more power to you and GL.

Enter Facebook, Twitter, and the other "social networking" sites.  Used to be that you called your friends up and talked about issues, now you post them in these sites--and the way sites are set up, EVERYBODY can see what you post depending on the way the 'friends' list is set up.

IOW, People don't have to worry about hacking and spying--they do it to themselves by social networking their thoughts, gripes and dirty laundry.

Ah, that tired canard.  Just because some people engage in social media networking, this doesn't mean that the government should have the right to run roughshod over the 4th amendment.

And I would be you would complain the loudest when someone was not caught because of restrictions. In todays world you have to give up a few things to keep wolves at bay.
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« Reply #57 on: June 18, 2014, 01:51:47 PM »


  Folks used to whisper and talk in low voices to each other about personal laundry, now they amplify it for everybody via the internet sites. Folks used to make trips to brick and mortar financial institutions to take care of their personal finances, now they use the internet where hackers can hijack their accounts anywhere along the way, all in the so called political correct term of CONVENIENCE. So if you enjoy quick public exposure of your personal life and financial dealings, more power to you and GL.

Enter Facebook, Twitter, and the other "social networking" sites.  Used to be that you called your friends up and talked about issues, now you post them in these sites--and the way sites are set up, EVERYBODY can see what you post depending on the way the 'friends' list is set up.

IOW, People don't have to worry about hacking and spying--they do it to themselves by social networking their thoughts, gripes and dirty laundry.

Ah, that tired canard.  Just because some people engage in social media networking, this doesn't mean that the government should have the right to run roughshod over the 4th amendment.

And I would be you would complain the loudest when someone was not caught because of restrictions. In todays world you have to give up a few things to keep wolves at bay.

I bet you'd be wrong.  Your attitude is what has allowed this place to become a police state that the STASI would have envied.  By the way, one of the guys who helped set up our Department of Homeland Security used to work for the STASI.

I don't think it's very patriotic to insist that we give up our rights in order to feel safe.  Especially when this safety is largely illusionary.
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« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2014, 04:41:57 AM »

...IOW, People don't have to worry about hacking and spying--they do it to themselves by social networking their thoughts, gripes and dirty laundry.

Ah, that tired canard.  Just because some people engage in social media networking, this doesn't mean that the government should have the right to run roughshod over the 4th amendment.

Never said they should.  Only said that people spread their own dirty laundry out already.

Stop reading your own meaning into other people's posts, and you wouldn't have the problem of looking like an idiot on this board.
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« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2014, 06:22:52 AM »

I don't think it's very patriotic to insist that we give up our rights in order to feel safe.  Especially when this safety is largely illusionary.

It has Nothing to do with being patriotic! It has to do with thwarting those that do not respect the rules and will use your own rules to bring you down. BTW I did my time in military did you?
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