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Author Topic: FCC license question and Tony Stewart accident  (Read 2382 times)
AC8ND
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« on: August 13, 2014, 08:15:25 AM »

Reading all of the news about the Tony Stewart racing accident, someone posted one of the track rules about using a radio.
the frequency is 454.000MHz.

I looked it up at the FCC and can't find where the track has a license for 454.000MHz.


"CANANDAIGUA MOTORSPORTS PARK GENERAL RULES AND PROCEDURES
36. For the 2014 Season, One way Radios will be mandatory in all divisions. The Frequency used will be 454.0000"

What do you think? Violation of FCC rules?

AC8ND
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W3WN
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 08:44:13 AM »

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What do you think? Violation of FCC rules?

AC8ND
Insufficient data.

A quick Google search of the frequency shows several references to a "Motor Racing Network" & "Performance Racing Network"  on that frequency.  See http://books.google.com/books?id=gtC3JYnYgdAC&pg=PA198&lpg=PA198&dq=454.000+mhz&source=bl&ots=qr8Pbbr_tm&sig=TYS3BvlhQkeWMeIFb-68oYUn0qU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vYbrU9yVHsWwyASC5YH4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=454.000%20mhz&f=false for one.

From that link:  "Race radio transmissions use channels licensed by the FCC.  Most frequencies are in the UHF band between 450 and 470 MHz"

So while the track ITSELF may not be licensed, the governing body or a related racing entity that's working with the track for that race may already have the license issue covered.

Here's another reference to the frequency:  http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php?title=World_of_Outlaws_-_Late_models&oldid=17822



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KA5IPF
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2014, 08:50:45 AM »

Reading all of the news about the Tony Stewart racing accident, someone posted one of the track rules about using a radio.
the frequency is 454.000MHz.

I looked it up at the FCC and can't find where the track has a license for 454.000MHz.


"CANANDAIGUA MOTORSPORTS PARK GENERAL RULES AND PROCEDURES
36. For the 2014 Season, One way Radios will be mandatory in all divisions. The Frequency used will be 454.0000"

What do you think? Violation of FCC rules?

AC8ND

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W9CMG
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2014, 10:42:18 AM »

454 MHz is a common channel frequency for a commercial device called a Raceceiver. It is one way communication from the track officials to the drivers. It's used to get the order of line ups correct, explain penaltys, etc. It's an FCC compliant device.
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N2HBX
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2014, 12:48:35 PM »

One-way transmissions are perfectly legal on commercial bands.

And, yeah, what IPF said....

73,
Larry, N2HBX
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W2IBC
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 01:25:06 PM »

Also have to remember. Not all tracks allow radios in car. Anderson Speedway don't allow drivers to have a radio in the car for the most part. (very few exceptions) but AS has radios for track workers.
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W9CMG
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 01:57:58 PM »

The Raceiver is used nation wide. Many, many tracks/sanctioning bodies require the drivers of most classes to have one. It's a small battery operated receiver with ten channels of freqs and an earphone. About $100. It's purpose is to facilitate the racing show, not for helping the driver.
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K1CJS
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2014, 07:34:58 AM »

Also keep in mind that two-way radios are used too--between the driver and his pit crew, etc.  Those radios are licensed to the individual racing crews, not the track or the association itself.
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