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Title: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KK4GGL on December 05, 2016, 05:23:29 PM
I just got a request from CQ. I let it drop a couple of years ago due to delivery issues. I'm considering renewing my subscription. How have they been doing lately?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on December 05, 2016, 06:15:30 PM
I can not speak for their future viability, but I have been receiving issues every month, and mostly on the first or second day of the month. Advertising is very light, unfortunately.  They haven't cut back on pages or paper quality.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KK4GGL on December 05, 2016, 07:48:44 PM
I can not speak for their future viability, but I have been receiving issues every month, and mostly on the first or second day of the month. Advertising is very light, unfortunately.  They haven't cut back on pages or paper quality.

Thanks for the info. Hopefully they'll pick up on the advertising to help with viability.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KE0CRP on December 06, 2016, 02:48:16 PM
I too have been regularly getting the issues.  No real delay on my end to speak of.  I enjoy the magazine and will keep mu subscription for now.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N4MU on December 07, 2016, 11:41:30 AM
Been getting mine for last few months. Don't keep track of exact dates but it's been regular. No known delays since about this time last year. Articles are quite different than QST which is why I subscribed. Not to say QST is bad, just that CQ takes a different tack. Still don't see any biggees advertising...HRO, etc. Seems that CQ could make them an offer they shouldn't refuse. Not sure what the previous problems were. I'll renew in a couple years.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N6XJP on December 07, 2016, 04:45:21 PM
They deliver.  But I canceled my subscription last month.  It's nothing but contest results an I don't contest frequently.  Last issue I got was over 1/3 contest results.  When I questioned the editor via email he said that's what his readers want.  Not for me. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KK4GGL on December 08, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
I tried 3 times to subscribe on their web site. All three times my session tied out. The third time I was really typing fast. Oh, well. I'll wait for a while, I guess.
Thanks to all that replied.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on December 12, 2016, 03:33:05 AM
I tried 3 times to subscribe on their web site. All three times my session tied out. The third time I was really typing fast. Oh, well. I'll wait for a while, I guess.
Thanks to all that replied.

Not wasting my money. Cancelled and never received a refund. QRZ has a number of forum posts about them not paying their authors.

If you really want diversity of opinion, join RSGB and get RadCom like I did. Really great publication and very different from QST.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KD8MJR on December 24, 2016, 12:41:50 PM
I can not speak for their future viability, but I have been receiving issues every month, and mostly on the first or second day of the month. Advertising is very light, unfortunately.  They haven't cut back on pages or paper quality.

Thats good to hear. So many people thought it was the end for them.  I would have really missed all of the annual competitions.

73
Rob


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N1CX on December 24, 2016, 04:09:34 PM
I stopped at their booth in Boxboro in September, I asked specifically and they were very upbeat, things have been starting to work out for them. I put a archive cd set from them of Ham Radio magazines to support them.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AB8MA on December 25, 2016, 06:59:33 AM
They are still sending out WAZ awards. Got mine yesterday. :)


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: VA3VF on December 29, 2016, 07:55:36 PM
I'll second that, however it feels more and more like they want to emulate QST. I'm not sure I'll renew my membership in both the RSGB and the ARRL.

73 de Vince, VA3VF

If you really want diversity of opinion, join RSGB and get RadCom like I did. Really great publication and very different from QST.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WD8DKB on January 14, 2017, 08:36:27 PM
Hi Rick.  I just renewed my script to CQ. It is written a bit different than QST. Frankly, I like reading something reflecting a  2nd perspective. I enjoy both for different reasons. Kind of like different rigs in the same shack I suppose.

Have fun and enjoy whatever mag you subscribe to.   Max :D
 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on February 01, 2017, 03:30:33 AM
Just reading the forums over at QRZ. It appears CQ having issues again. People have not received the January issue. Here we go again folks.

Well I mean here you go if you still have a CQ subscription. I replaced mine two years ago with an RSGB membership and RadCom is a great magazine.

If you still are considering a CQ subscription, buyer beware.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N9AOP on February 02, 2017, 10:10:57 AM
Their digital version is always on time and the price is right if you catch a subscription when they have a sale.
Art


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on February 03, 2017, 03:44:21 AM
Most people do not like reading digital magazines. The preference for most people is paper.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W3PH on February 03, 2017, 05:31:36 AM
Most people do not like reading digital magazines. The preference for most people is paper.

Probably true, but in my case I can only read the digital version (eyesight not good, need lots of light & ability to blow up text on screen), plus I don't have room to keep old issues of magazines around, so I get and value the digital versions of both CQ and QST. 

There's a lot of stuff in CQ that I don't care about, but there's still enough that I keep renewing my digital-only subscription.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N9AOP on February 04, 2017, 09:58:05 AM
NUT,
Even I prefer a magazine to digital but the digital price is right.  The younger generations prefer digital.  Won't be long before printing prices and postage drive the hard copy editions out of sight.
art


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N4UE on February 04, 2017, 02:11:00 PM
I recently re-subscribed to CQ. In fact, my first issue arrived today. Very nice. Unlike my other mags, it even came in a large envelope. The content is very varied, which is nice. Time will tell, but so far, I'm very happy. ha ha

ron
N4UE


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AC7CW on February 04, 2017, 07:30:54 PM
I recently re-subscribed to CQ. In fact, my first issue arrived today. Very nice. Unlike my other mags, it even came in a large envelope. The content is very varied, which is nice. Time will tell, but so far, I'm very happy. ha ha

ron
N4UE

Digital magazines are quite nice on my Samsung S 10.4" tablet, anything smaller won't quite cut it. In fact while I'm surfing the web and finding articles I like to upload them to the Kindle on that tablet and read them all later when there is nothing important to do


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on February 05, 2017, 04:24:09 AM
NUT,
Even I prefer a magazine to digital but the digital price is right.  The younger generations prefer digital.  Won't be long before printing prices and postage drive the hard copy editions out of sight.
art

I don't know of any younger generation people who read digital magazines. I know there were some magazines that tried going all digital and it failed forcing them to go back to print.

I was talking to a couple of hams who were speculating that CQ got an infusion of cash after their last bout with an inability to deliver magazines. The speculation is that the cash is gone now and they are back in the same position as before. Again, only speculation and time will tell if these delivery problems will continue to occur throughout the year.

But I am no longer a subscriber even though they still owe me a year's worth of magazines. My replacement for CQ is RadCom is well worth the extra money and I receiver it every month without fail. Great articles you won't find in any US publication so it is great reading.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AC7CW on February 05, 2017, 12:44:06 PM
CQ does not offer a one-year digital only subscription! I went to their site thinking I'd try it for a year and they offer a dozen different subscription types but not that one...


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on February 05, 2017, 12:45:13 PM
NUT,
Even I prefer a magazine to digital but the digital price is right.  The younger generations prefer digital.  Won't be long before printing prices and postage drive the hard copy editions out of sight.
art

That is true Art. Many mags are digital only now. The young people are becoming digital only simply by the fact they have their smart phones and tablets glued into their hands. My daughter is one of them. And so are her friends. So I see it first hand.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W4KVW on February 05, 2017, 03:16:22 PM
I can not speak for their future viability, but I have been receiving issues every month, and mostly on the first or second day of the month. Advertising is very light, unfortunately.  They haven't cut back on pages or paper quality.

Thanks for the info. Hopefully they'll pick up on the advertising to help with viability.

Well I may actually subscribe if they don't have over 70 pages of just advertising as does QST.That is the biggest reason I am dropping my ARRL membership this year.The ARRL is a pathetic joke anyway & why only about 20% of Amateurs in the United States are members.They are like a toothless lion who is starving itself to death & choking on it's own breath.If I want advertising I'll get a New HRO or DX Engineering Catalog.

Clayton
W4KVW 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on February 06, 2017, 08:28:39 AM
Healthy magazines used to run at least 50% advertising. Look at any of the popular technical mags from the 1950 era. Popular Science, Popular Electronics, etc.   You'd fine several pages of advertising before even coming to the masthead and content page!  Buying a magazine based on a lack of advertising doesn't really make sense. The publisher has to maintain a certain ratio of advertising to editorial content.  No advertisers means the publisher is limited in finding good content to fill pages, or even to print X number of pages.  Advertisers pay for the printing and editorial costs. Your sub most likely covers postage.

Regarding QST, it is part of the membership for belonging to the ARRL.  Anyone joining the ARRL solely for the purpose of receiving QST is going to be most likely disappointed.  The ARRL has faults, but it is the only national voice that represents amateur radio on an official basis.  I miss Ham Radio Mag--but the days when this hobby could support a technical magazine are long gone, and most of the hams who were active contributors are now silent keys.

Pete


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W4KVW on February 06, 2017, 08:04:40 PM
Healthy magazines used to run at least 50% advertising. Look at any of the popular technical mags from the 1950 era. Popular Science, Popular Electronics, etc.   You'd fine several pages of advertising before even coming to the masthead and content page!  Buying a magazine based on a lack of advertising doesn't really make sense. The publisher has to maintain a certain ratio of advertising to editorial content.  No advertisers means the publisher is limited in finding good content to fill pages, or even to print X number of pages.  Advertisers pay for the printing and editorial costs. Your sub most likely covers postage.

Regarding QST, it is part of the membership for belonging to the ARRL.  Anyone joining the ARRL solely for the purpose of receiving QST is going to be most likely disappointed.  The ARRL has faults, but it is the only national voice that represents amateur radio on an official basis.  I miss Ham Radio Mag--but the days when this hobby could support a technical magazine are long gone, and most of the hams who were active contributors are now silent keys.

Pete

It's a VERY WEAK voice with their own agenda & it does NOT have the majority of Amateur Operators in mind thus the pathetic membership numbers which when renewals are due this year will drop even further.When they go away it will not be a loss that anyone will notice.They are but a shell of what they once were as is their dying magazine & membership numbers that don't lie.Which are dropping on a regular basis for several years & the trend continues.I'm tired of a useless magazine in my mailbox each month that takes 15 minutes too read anything interesting in it.Pushing contest after contest after special event.They make such a big deal out of hams who were dumb enough too move into somewhere that has antenna restrictions & fed them the BS all year making them think anything was changing knowing all along it was not all in the name of gathering funds.The silly bill will die again next year but they will sell the same lie all over again & try & put a different spin on it.If you move where antennas are not permitted on purpose & then sign the HOA agreement then sleep in the bed you have made & stop crying when it's your problem not everybody else's that did not do something so bone headed.Ever hear the old saying,You made your bed now sleep in it? SWEET DREAMS.Then they have special events in honor of special events I think.I guess next they will have a special event because of a contest & then a contest because of the special event.Keep wasting your money & I'll spend mine on something worth while & not have the extra garbage in the can each month.Good luck in the contest OM. LOL  :P

Clayton
W4KVW   


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on February 06, 2017, 09:53:14 PM
You sound bitter.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on February 07, 2017, 03:01:22 AM

It's a VERY WEAK voice with their own agenda & it does NOT have the majority of Amateur Operators in mind thus the pathetic membership numbers which when renewals are due this year will drop even further.When they go away it will not be a loss that anyone will notice.They are but a shell of what they once were as is their dying magazine & membership numbers that don't lie.Which are dropping on a regular basis for several years & the trend continues.I'm tired of a useless magazine in my mailbox each month that takes 15 minutes too read anything interesting in it.Pushing contest after contest after special event.They make such a big deal out of hams who were dumb enough too move into somewhere that has antenna restrictions & fed them the BS all year making them think anything was changing knowing all along it was not all in the name of gathering funds.The silly bill will die again next year but they will sell the same lie all over again & try & put a different spin on it.If you move where antennas are not permitted on purpose & then sign the HOA agreement then sleep in the bed you have made & stop crying when it's your problem not everybody else's that did not do something so bone headed.Ever hear the old saying,You made your bed now sleep in it? SWEET DREAMS.Then they have special events in honor of special events I think.I guess next they will have a special event because of a contest & then a contest because of the special event.Keep wasting your money & I'll spend mine on something worth while & not have the extra garbage in the can each month.Good luck in the contest OM. LOL  :P

Clayton
W4KVW   

Well this is a complete load of crap. If the ARRL were ever to go away, so would amateur radio.

The only reason the membership numbers are not greater is too many cheap hams who will not spend the money. It's just that simple. Oh, there are a few bitter people like you who have some sort of grudge and therefore will not join, but the average non-member ham just doesn't want to part with their money to support ham radio in general. It's really more to do with selfishness and cheapness.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W4KVW on February 07, 2017, 03:55:59 PM
WB8NUT Quote:Well this is a complete load of crap. If the ARRL were ever to go away, so would amateur radio.

The only reason the membership numbers are not greater is too many cheap hams who will not spend the money. It's just that simple. Oh, there are a few bitter people like you who have some sort of grudge and therefore will not join, but the average non-member ham just doesn't want to part with their money to support ham radio in general. It's really more to do with selfishness and cheapness.

I see it more as being wise with my money & I see the ARRL as a dying horse.The sooner it's dead the better so they save all of that wasted life support money they have been throwing away.They for sure are not keeping Amateur Radio alive but if they are it will also go away pretty soon & we both know that's not happening.I tell all new Hams I know NOT to join the ARRL because they are nothing but a political puppet show which they are & people who are blinded by their puppet show get offended when anyone talks bad about them but like a speed bump they will get over it.It's painful when the truth hits home & it appears home has been hit several times in these comments & the Truth will set you FREE I have always heard & FREE is AWESOME! Good Luck in the Contest OM & I'll be skipping it because I'm pretty sure it's really just a Special Event anyway.   ::)   :-*   :P  LOL  {:>)

Clayton
W4KVW


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W5JON on February 07, 2017, 04:43:48 PM

I tell all new Hams I know NOT to join the ARRL because they are nothing but a political puppet show .........

Clayton
W4KVW


Hi,

That is because anyone with any amount of time in the hobby will not listen to your BS anyway.

The ARRL is not always right, the ARRL is not always wrong.  However, Amateur Radio is much better because of the ARRL then it would ever be without it.

And yes, you can thank the ARRL for getting you access to half of the Amateur Bands you now operate, by representing you for the past 100 years. 

73,

John W5JON  -  ARRL Life Member


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KD8HMO on February 07, 2017, 05:50:56 PM
It amazes me how "cheap" hams can seem to afford a $10,000 Kenwood TS-990S, Custom mixing board, Heil mic on a boom, 250ft tower, and a mega-beam antenna, just so they can sit there all weekend saying "CQ CONTEST, CQ CONTEST YOUR 59" but they cant seem to afford a few bucks to join ARRL or even send a flippin QSL card...


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W4KVW on February 07, 2017, 09:16:58 PM

I tell all new Hams I know NOT to join the ARRL because they are nothing but a political puppet show .........

Clayton
W4KVW


Hi,

That is because anyone with any amount of time in the hobby will not listen to your BS anyway.

73,

John W5JON  -  ARRL Life Member

That's why I tell the New Hams right out of the gate when I hand them their New Baofeng Dual Band HT.That gets their attention from day one & they start out listening to the nice man.Just doing my part & some folks don't like Baofengs but I really don't care what anyone thinks since I'm not looking too please anyone but me.They get upset that I give away the FREE HT's yet they don't offer anything better for FREE.When I start caring about what everyone else likes & does not like then I'll find another hobby of which I have several already.You have no idea how much folks listen to me but I'm sure you would not like that either but it really does not matter in the end.  :o  ::)   :P  LOL

Clayton
W4KVW
Soon to be an Non-ARRL member for the rest of my Life.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WI8P on February 09, 2017, 03:34:38 AM
Healthy magazines used to run at least 50% advertising. Look at any of the popular technical mags from the 1950 era. Popular Science, Popular Electronics, etc.   You'd fine several pages of advertising before even coming to the masthead and content page!  Buying a magazine based on a lack of advertising doesn't really make sense. The publisher has to maintain a certain ratio of advertising to editorial content.  No advertisers means the publisher is limited in finding good content to fill pages, or even to print X number of pages.  Advertisers pay for the printing and editorial costs. Your sub most likely covers postage.

Regarding QST, it is part of the membership for belonging to the ARRL.  Anyone joining the ARRL solely for the purpose of receiving QST is going to be most likely disappointed.  The ARRL has faults, but it is the only national voice that represents amateur radio on an official basis.  I miss Ham Radio Mag--but the days when this hobby could support a technical magazine are long gone, and most of the hams who were active contributors are now silent keys.

Pete

It's a VERY WEAK voice with their own agenda & it does NOT have the majority of Amateur Operators in mind thus the pathetic membership numbers which when renewals are due this year will drop even further.When they go away it will not be a loss that anyone will notice.They are but a shell of what they once were as is their dying magazine & membership numbers that don't lie.Which are dropping on a regular basis for several years & the trend continues.I'm tired of a useless magazine in my mailbox each month that takes 15 minutes too read anything interesting in it.Pushing contest after contest after special event.They make such a big deal out of hams who were dumb enough too move into somewhere that has antenna restrictions & fed them the BS all year making them think anything was changing knowing all along it was not all in the name of gathering funds.The silly bill will die again next year but they will sell the same lie all over again & try & put a different spin on it.If you move where antennas are not permitted on purpose & then sign the HOA agreement then sleep in the bed you have made & stop crying when it's your problem not everybody else's that did not do something so bone headed.Ever hear the old saying,You made your bed now sleep in it? SWEET DREAMS.Then they have special events in honor of special events I think.I guess next they will have a special event because of a contest & then a contest because of the special event.Keep wasting your money & I'll spend mine on something worth while & not have the extra garbage in the can each month.Good luck in the contest OM. LOL  :P

Clayton
W4KVW  

Don't let facts get in the way of your feelings. ARRL membership is up.  From the most recent available facts:

Quote
In addition to a 2015 Year in Review summary and detailed audited financial statements, the Report notes that ARRL membership increased by nearly 5000 from 2014 to 2015, ending the year at 170,528 — the highest membership total in nearly 2 decades.

You can review the yearly statements here: http://www.arrl.org/annual-reports

There is no other amateur radio organization that is more politically active or offers more to their members than the ARRL.  You can post all the sour grapes you want, this forum is pretty open about what it's members can post, but be forewarned that the membership here is pretty astute in being able to separate facts from BS. Just because the organization may not support your agenda doesn't mean it doesn't represent the majority of it's membership.  If one person says you are wrong in your beliefs, that's a difference of opinion.  When 170,000 say it, you only need to look in the mirror to see who's wrong.

 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W4KVW on February 09, 2017, 08:34:47 AM
QUOTE:There is no other amateur radio organization that is more politically active or offers more to their members than the ARRL.  You can post all the sour grapes you want, this forum is pretty open about what it's members can post, but be forewarned that the membership here is pretty astute in being able to separate facts from BS. Just because the organization may not support your agenda doesn't mean it doesn't represent the majority of it's membership.  If one person says you are wrong in your beliefs, that's a difference of opinion. When 170,000 say it, you only need to look in the mirror to see who's wrong. 

http://www.hamdata.com/fccinfo.html Look & you will see that there are currently around 807,000 licensed Amateurs in the United States so 170,000 is quiet a pathetic number for membership.Almost 700,000 who are smart enough too know that the ARRL is a joke & not anybody they want to be investing in.I know those numbers hurt some feelings but they are not my numbers but again,FACTS so I'll leave the FACTS alone with you so you can go over the numbers & then you will feel better once it sinks in.Once the renewal time has come & gone that 170,000 will dwindle just so you know ahead of time & you won't be shocked at years end.Good luck in the Contest because the numbers look bad for your team.  ;)

Clayton
W4KVW


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WI8P on February 09, 2017, 02:00:26 PM
QUOTE:There is no other amateur radio organization that is more politically active or offers more to their members than the ARRL.  You can post all the sour grapes you want, this forum is pretty open about what it's members can post, but be forewarned that the membership here is pretty astute in being able to separate facts from BS. Just because the organization may not support your agenda doesn't mean it doesn't represent the majority of it's membership.  If one person says you are wrong in your beliefs, that's a difference of opinion. When 170,000 say it, you only need to look in the mirror to see who's wrong. 

http://www.hamdata.com/fccinfo.html Look & you will see that there are currently around 807,000 licensed Amateurs in the United States so 170,000 is quiet a pathetic number for membership.Almost 700,000 who are smart enough too know that the ARRL is a joke & not anybody they want to be investing in.I know those numbers hurt some feelings but they are not my numbers but again,FACTS so I'll leave the FACTS alone with you so you can go over the numbers & then you will feel better once it sinks in.Once the renewal time has come & gone that 170,000 will dwindle just so you know ahead of time & you won't be shocked at years end.Good luck in the Contest because the numbers look bad for your team.  ;)

Clayton
W4KVW


Look and you will also see that over 40% of US households own firearms, yet the NRA has only 4 million members.  What do these and your figures prove?  That a small handful of people are carrying the water for the rest. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on February 10, 2017, 02:29:06 AM
QRZ had a thread nothing that subscribers were getting their January issue at the end of January or early February.

Question is anyone get their February paper issue of CQ Magazine yet?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N1CX on February 10, 2017, 02:41:26 AM
MIKE DROP  ;D ;D ;D ;D



Ya think? Lighten up Francis. I think QST does a pretty damn good job. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. Sorry you ate too much pepperoni yesterday.  ;D

You sound bitter.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on February 10, 2017, 02:10:14 PM
Since no one made a comment to the question, it appears the February paper issue of CQ is also late. The January issue was receive during the final days of January and the first few days of February, so I wonder how late the February paper issue will be?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on February 21, 2017, 05:44:16 PM
I subscribed to CQ Magazine starting a few months ago and like it.  I get the digital version.  The January edition was available January 1st and the February edition was available February 1st.  I like that I can read it on my android, desktop or laptop.

As for ARRL, I am a member.  I think it's a national treasure and makes the hobby much better.  I like QST including the ads.  The ARRL website is really well done. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 01, 2017, 02:13:12 PM
March edition received today (e-notification) March 1st.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KE8GGP on March 01, 2017, 03:26:20 PM
Look and you will also see that over 40% of US households own firearms, yet the NRA has only 4 million members.  What do these and your figures prove?  That a small handful of people are carrying the water for the rest. 



And what have they done for us?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KR4BD on March 01, 2017, 03:46:33 PM
I got my January CQ print version at the VERY END of January.  I have NOT received the February PRINT issue as of March 1.  For a while, I got BOTH the digital and print versions, but the digital stopped about 6 months ago.  I get BOTH the digital versions of QST so why can't I get BOTH versions of CQ?  CQ tells me I have to PAY ADDITIONAL to add the DIGITAL !   By the time the PRINT edition shows up, all the info is "old news".  And...where is my MARCH issue of CQ?  Maybe it will show up by summer....


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 01, 2017, 05:08:47 PM
I got my January CQ print version at the VERY END of January.  I have NOT received the February PRINT issue as of March 1.  For a while, I got BOTH the digital and print versions, but the digital stopped about 6 months ago.  I get BOTH the digital versions of QST so why can't I get BOTH versions of CQ?  CQ tells me I have to PAY ADDITIONAL to add the DIGITAL !   By the time the PRINT edition shows up, all the info is "old news".  And...where is my MARCH issue of CQ?  Maybe it will show up by summer....

Why not just go digital only?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 02, 2017, 02:45:04 AM
Majority of people do not like digital magazines. Some magazines have tried to go all digital and have failed, forcing them to bring back print along with digital.

Second, for the publisher, ad revenue is less. Studies show that the retention rate of ads among readers is less with digital than print, so the publishers cannot charge as much for the ads.

As much as we move as a society to a digital world, the reality is that people prefer print when it comes to magazines.

This solution with CQ is not moving the reader to digital, it is getting the print edition out on time. I think we all know why they cannot, they just are not transparent with their subscribers.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WI8P on March 02, 2017, 08:03:56 AM

Second, for the publisher, ad revenue is less. Studies show that the retention rate of ads among readers is less with digital than print, so the publishers cannot charge as much for the ads.


I wonder about that because the digital copy can provide direct links to the advertiser's website that not only gets the customer "in the door" so to speak, but also allows the advertiser to judge how well the response is to his ad, if the link takes the user to a select page. Those would seem like very positive things for advertisers. Plus the link provides a certain amount of impulse buying possibilities.

While I was among the legions of those opposed to digital copies, I'm beginning to see the benefits of permanent storage without retaining stacks of magazines.  The only downside I see is not being able to share them with friends. 



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on March 02, 2017, 08:55:12 AM
The only way many young people read is on smart phones and tablets. Look at any high school student!

What they publish needs to be of high interest. Because of search engines with the capability to find almost anything directly and free, the content, even digital, needs to be of high interest before people are willing to pay for the content. That is the real reason old school paid published media is generally failing.

Digital will be the only media left in the near future. Those that want to live in last centuries media structure will be disappointed and left behind. Those that print will see continued dwindling subscriptions as more people learn, and get used to, how to get information for free and instantly anywhere.



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AC7CW on March 02, 2017, 02:45:00 PM
I got my January CQ print version at the VERY END of January.  I have NOT received the February PRINT issue as of March 1.  For a while, I got BOTH the digital and print versions, but the digital stopped about 6 months ago.  I get BOTH the digital versions of QST so why can't I get BOTH versions of CQ?  CQ tells me I have to PAY ADDITIONAL to add the DIGITAL !   By the time the PRINT edition shows up, all the info is "old news".  And...where is my MARCH issue of CQ?  Maybe it will show up by summer....

I was going to go with a digital subscription for a year... CQ doesn't offer it, they want two years. The way they do things they might not be around for two years. They could offer an affordable single issue recurring charge subscription that could be ended by a subscriber at any time and I might take them up on it.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on March 02, 2017, 04:19:16 PM
I dropped my subscription several years ago when CQ was consistently very late.  Decided to renew almost a year ago.  I enjoy the magazine but don't have much use for the SWL content (presumably there due to consolidation of their publications).  I had planned to renew upon my 1yr expiration.  But Jan issue came in early Feb.  And my Feb issue hasn't come yet.  Quite similar to how things fell apart several years ago.  So not sure if I will renew or not.                         


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 02, 2017, 05:22:16 PM
I think we all know why they cannot, they just are not transparent with their subscribers.

I'm not aware of the reason, please fill me in

For me the benefit of digital is being able to read it in different places without thinking about carrying around the physical copy.  Laptop on my nightstand, PC at work, PC in shack, Android in the loo, etc


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 03, 2017, 03:00:24 AM

I'm not aware of the reason, please fill me in

For me the benefit of digital is being able to read it in different places without thinking about carrying around the physical copy.  Laptop on my nightstand, PC at work, PC in shack, Android in the loo, etc

If you are not aware, I suggest doing a search and reading about the woes of CQ the past three to four years. In fact if you really do some digging, I guess some of the delivery issues go back even further. I even remember an issue going back to my Novice days 40 years ago when CQ used to give out a short free subscription to new licensees. When I received my first license, they gave me a free three or six month subscription. I got one issue, then they sent a letter saying they could not do that anymore and reneged on the offer.

Paper might be "old technology" but most people do not read magazines on cell phones because the screen is too small. Second, they will read some magazines on tablets, but not everyone wants to carry a tablet around.

While it is the digital age, the reality is that people still want paper. Advertisers still pay more for paper. Magazines have tried to get away from paper, but those mainstream magazines that have tried, failed and had to bring back paper in addition to keeping the digital magazine like CQ does now. That's why CQ has never gone all digital and when asked, they say no.

Surprised that one post above noted that they still have not received their February issue. January came in February. I wonder if this is a repeat of what happened a few years ago when "production problems" started with the January issue that year and continued for a year. CQ took a lot of steps to get back on track like cancelling many of their sister publications like PopCom, World Radio, etc. But could they be out of bullets this time? What else can they cut?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on March 03, 2017, 05:31:45 AM
No Feb issue so far.  But I did get a "Serious Message" offer in the mail yesterday.  1 year for $38.95, plus deals on 2 and 3 yr.  But  I paid only $33 last year.  And CQ website shows 1 yr subscription for $36. What a deal!  I hate to say this but I think I'm not going to renew.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on March 03, 2017, 08:14:01 AM
They could possibly do many things to cut costs.  Stop using shiny paper and thick cover stock, the newsprint that Worldradio used would be fine with me.  Stop financing all of the contests.  Let the participants finance them, or the contest/dx clubs, or ARRL.  Sell off the stale book/calendar division.  Nothing new there for years. Make it in booklet size, like they were years ago.  Make it bi-monthly.   DO SOMETHING!

CQ, at this point in time, seems like a poorly run Ponzi, supporting itself each month with whatever new subscriber money comes in.

It's a pity, I enjoy the magazine.  I suggest that they stop putting a month on the cover, just send out 12 per year, and don't bother with the calendar of events, as it is past tense anyway.  That way no issue would be late or early.

I'm quite sure the Publisher/Owner is very proud of his offspring, and doesn't want to compromise the quality or integrity of his product.  But I'd rather give up a few things that lose the print magazine in the end.  If they ever go all digital, I'm out.

Rich
WR3V


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on March 04, 2017, 08:17:44 AM
March 3rd, still no February print issue.  March digi is on line already.  Emailed CQ, no response.  Terrible way to run a business.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on March 04, 2017, 08:46:33 AM
March 4, another day, another empty mail box.  Car 54, where are you?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 04, 2017, 09:02:50 AM
Still amazed that the can treat subscribers and authors they way they do and still stay in business. Even more amazed that people continue to subscribe after being treated so poorly.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on March 04, 2017, 10:23:01 AM
Kind of like putting your old faithful but sick dog down.  You know it's for the best, but you can't bring yourself to do it.

Mr. Ross and Mr. Moseson, what the hell is going on?  As my Grandmon used to say 's**t or get off the pot'.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 04, 2017, 01:44:29 PM
Kind of like putting your old faithful but sick dog down.  You know it's for the best, but you can't bring yourself to do it.

Mr. Ross and Mr. Moseson, what the hell is going on?  As my Grandmon used to say 's**t or get off the pot'.

Seriously? A blind man can see what is going on and has been going on. Hint: It's not broken printing presses and USPS problems.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on March 04, 2017, 02:08:50 PM
That was a rhetorical question. (and comment).  Monthly subscription revenue probably comes no where near printing/mailing costs.  Ad income most likely is paid by contract (quarterly?), so I quess some months they can pay the bills, and some months they can't. Like this month.  Give Yaesu/Icom/Kenwood credit, they are nothing if not loyal.  MFJ seems to come and go.

NUT, your affinity for RadComm is obvious, I just can't bring myself to pay $70 a year for a magazine, no matter how good it is, or how much money I had. (which I don't).  It's gonna choke me to pay ARRL $49 next time around. Just on principal.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 04, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
Sorry, missed the rhetorical.

Yup, RadCom is expensive, but considering it comes from the UK on time each month and has other RSGB benefits, it's worth it in my opinion. The Europeans are doing much more with SDR and longwave than we are here in the states so it is much different than QST.

I am a member of the ARRL and paid quite a bit in advance. I don't think my membership expires for another ten years. Bought multiple years at Dayton and then again before they raised the price. The ARRL membership is completely worth it plus you get a great magazine - on time - each and every month.

Not sure what the future holds for CQ, but I think they are almost out of bullets this time around.  The only bullet I think hey have left and that is going all digital, but not sure people are going to want to pay what they are asking for an all digital subscription. In any case it will be interesting to hear what the next set of excuses brings. Maybe they will finally reveal the truth we all know. Now that would be a refreshing change.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on March 04, 2017, 02:46:33 PM
Until the eulogy, aside from the 'sorry folks, woe is us' excuses, they seem to never want to 'fess up.

BTW, Practical Wireless from the UK looks interesting, without all the club stuff that must be in RadComm.  Still probably $70/year with exchange rates.  They also have a mag called Radio User that look a lot like Popular Communications.   Hard to fathom that the UK can support a magazine that the US cannot.   I suppose their favor for the radio arts still hangs in there in part from the WWII days?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 05, 2017, 05:37:41 AM
March 4, another day, another empty mail box.  Car 54, where are you?

Another good issue, reading it right now, good article on 6 meter moon bounce to Palau.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AC7CW on March 05, 2017, 01:43:15 PM
March 4, another day, another empty mail box.  Car 54, where are you?

Another good issue, reading it right now, good article on 6 meter moon bounce to Palau.

I hope they keep up the good work


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on March 07, 2017, 09:18:01 AM
They may do good work, but do a lousy job on spreading the word.  March 8th, and still no February print edition.  A call to Hicksville yesterday offered no more than 'they went out last week, and we are doing the best we can'.  Obviously the best they can is not too good.  Sad.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 07, 2017, 07:35:10 PM
It seems odd to me that some of you on this thread are so adverse to reading a magazine on the computer yet seem to have no qualms about reading a forum on the computer. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 08, 2017, 02:04:34 AM
It seems odd to me that some of you on this thread are so adverse to reading a magazine on the computer yet seem to have no qualms about reading a forum on the computer. 

That's because a forum and a magazine are two different things. A forum is interactive. A magazine is not. A forum response is a sentence or a paragraph while a magazine is a page or multiple pages of an article.

That's like saying if you like riding in a car, you should should have no issues with riding a bus. Some people just don't like public transportation, but like riding in a car.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on March 08, 2017, 03:11:10 AM
It seems odd to me that some of you on this thread are so adverse to reading a magazine on the computer yet seem to have no qualms about reading a forum on the computer. 

LOL...So true!


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 09, 2017, 05:28:59 PM
Another thing I like about reading CQ on the computer is that I can zoom the page in and out.  It's really handy for the classified ads in the back.  Going through them tonight I note that one ad simply says "www.km5kg.com"    which takes you to one of those web host temporary pages of links.  The call sign now shows as SK.  I wonder what his page was about?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on March 09, 2017, 09:16:07 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/20090821104522/http://www.km5kg.com/


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 10, 2017, 04:53:34 PM
Not that anyone asked, but I received my April digital QST today, 3/10.  Good to see Antipodes Island getting activated.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on March 11, 2017, 02:51:14 PM
I'm still waiting for my Feb issue.   My restarted one-year subscription is up in June and I'm done.   Was a subscriber for 50 years, gave it up about four years ago due to super late deliveries.  Decided to give them another try last summer.  No more.  But those with faith, please take CQ up on their 3-year subscription deals.  Might give them just enough cash so I will get my remaining several issues before they go bust for good.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N4UE on March 11, 2017, 03:07:01 PM
I got my Feb issue yesterday. The magazine seems 'fuller' than it was years ago. The Feb issue has an article on antennas, that should be required reading for any potential ham.

ron
N4UE


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 12, 2017, 05:53:28 AM
You guys do know that the digital version looks exactly like the print version, it's just on your computer screen and you can adjust the size to fit your eyes, correct?  Is reading the image below so terrible that you would rather see the magazine fail due to printing costs than change your habit needed to read it on screens?

(http://blogtite.com/cq.png)


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on March 12, 2017, 06:23:39 AM
My money, my choice.  I don't like digital magazines.  Can't read while on the pot...


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on March 12, 2017, 07:08:03 AM
My money, my choice.  I don't like digital magazines.  Can't read while on the pot...

Sure you can...Just need to be part of the 21st century way of reading. But as you say, its your choice.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WD8DKB on March 12, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
My issues usually show up a bit late . But I don't contest or chase DX so timing doesn't matter to me. So in my case, I still enjoy reading it every month. If the printed form is discontinued, I'll read the digital. I'm easy.  ;D


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on March 12, 2017, 09:34:27 AM
Stan, I once dropped my cell phone in the toilet.  Not good.  So I now limit my "library" reading to paper!


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on March 12, 2017, 03:38:42 PM
You guys do know that the digital version looks exactly like the print version, it's just on your computer screen and you can adjust the size to fit your eyes, correct?  Is reading the image below so terrible that you would rather see the magazine fail due to printing costs than change your habit needed to read it on screens?

(http://blogtite.com/cq.png)

Thanks for reaffirming that I don't want to sit in front of my PC to read 112 pages.  I want a paper magazine, in my grubby mitts, that I can carry around, read anywhere, then share with others when I am done with it.  That's what I paid for, and that's what I want.  The editorial department at CQ seems to be right on the ball, on time and on task.  I guess there are just more days than dollars left some months.  Printing and labeling and postage expense is the fly in the ointment.   I certainly do not want CQ to fail, but if it goes all digital, see you later CQ.   

And, maybe you violated some kind of copyright laws by publishing this segment.  At least I got some March content in the month of March, thanks for that.

Rich
WR3V



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 12, 2017, 04:16:30 PM

Thanks for reaffirming that I don't want to sit in front of my PC to read 112 pages.  I want a paper magazine, in my grubby mitts, that I can carry around, read anywhere, then share with others when I am done with it.  That's what I paid for, and that's what I want.  The editorial department at CQ seems to be right on the ball, on time and on task.  I guess there are just more days than dollars left some months.  Printing and labeling and postage expense is the fly in the ointment.   I certainly do not want CQ to fail, but if it goes all digital, see you later CQ.  

And, maybe you violated some kind of copyright laws by publishing this segment.  At least I got some March content in the month of March, thanks for that.

Rich
WR3V

LOL


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 13, 2017, 02:07:07 AM

Sure you can...Just need to be part of the 21st century way of reading. But as you say, its your choice.

Says the guy who is not using digital voice or the ARRL LoTW.....LOL LOL LOL! Come on FIBber, it's the 21st Century! LOL LOL LOL!


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on March 13, 2017, 05:39:18 AM
Sure you can...Just need to be part of the 21st century way of reading. But as you say, its your choice.
Says the guy who is not using digital voice or the ARRL LoTW.....LOL LOL LOL! Come on FIBber, it's the 21st Century! LOL LOL LOL!

Even if I do or don't use digital voice, that has nothing to do with the current topic other then an excuse for a futile attempt to embarrass me, which you continuously fail at, but that seems to be your goal in life now. Sad that you don't get help for that OCD.

But I do use a tablet, not a phone to read either trade mags, books, or newspapers. I purchased the tablet 2 years ago so it is fairly up to date. And had an original Kindle reader long before that. I have 2 paid for things I receive on a regular basis...QST and the MANILA TIMES. So in this case, I do practice what I preached about in my statement above. So why can't you stay on point?

Nothing better than sitting under a shade tree by a lake or river, fishing pole propped up by a stick, and reading anything I want from most anywhere in the world while I relax. And sometimes actually catch dinner!

Your right, I don't use LoTW. Instead for the few cards I care to collect, which is rarer then some of the rarest DX, I use EQSL instead. Or just plain old snail mail. I don't contest (other then Field Day, and usually with the club I belong to), chase DX, work nets on HF, partake in the huge pileups, or collect awards. So LoTW is kind of a waste of time for me. Actually so is EQSL, but it is there. Can't remember the last time I even looked at it. I don't use a computer logger either. Same thing there, there are very few QSOs I want or care to keep a written record of. And did keeping a notebook for the few things I want to write down really become so obsolete? Not really, since schools still require it. My daughter is in HS, so I do have first hand knowledge.

But that's the difference between us. You feel the need to do that stuff because you want to be recognized somehow and say your superior to others.(Just my opinion based on the context of what you write.) I don't. I just like ham radio as a simple hobby and look at topics here from that perspective.

So NUTcase, do you have any constructive comment, or just more OCD created insults and/or accusations?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 13, 2017, 11:33:56 AM
do you have any constructive comment, or just more OCD created insults and/or accusations?

Nope, just stating the facts. Thank you for confirming I made accurate statements.

Second, if you are going to insult others for not being in the 21st Century with wanting a paper magazine, make sure everything from a technology standpoint is current 21st Century state-of-the-art in your own life. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on March 13, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
do you have any constructive comment, or just more OCD created insults and/or accusations?

Nope, just stating the facts. Thank you for confirming I made accurate statements.

Second, if you are going to insult others for not being in the 21st Century with wanting a paper magazine, make sure everything from a technology standpoint is current 21st Century state-of-the-art in your own life. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

Typical NUTcase...I am up to date on what I commented on. Guess you didn't read that part...as usual. Typical of OCD sufferers. Missing what is said to continue on with your own deluded thoughts. Digital mags are also hardly state of the art anyway. Been around for a while now. Not like it and equipment to use it was invented a couple of weeks ago. But it is a 21st century thing that continues to grow. Just very early 21st century. I am sure soon enough a new platform will be invented and make the current method obsolete. Then it would be state of the art.

Plus I never confirmed or denied about digital voice. It is totally irrelevant to this thread. And I gave it the attention it deserved.

Your right about LoTW. But then again I don't go buy a semi tractor and trailer when I need a pick up either. Nice try at that one. But as usual, you failed. And as stated, why go through the work of signing up when I don't plan on using it. Again a nice try, but again a failure.

So you should really work on accuracy. That would come when you get help with the OCD. Please...get help!


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W4KVW on March 13, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
My money, my choice.  I don't like digital magazines.  Can't read while on the pot...

I had a hard time reading on the pot only once but then I realized the lights were off & I fixed it & never had that issue again. LOL I agree about the Digital Magazines as well just like No Digital or Electronic QSL's of any kind.Cut down a tree & make a paper magazine & some real QSL cards.  :o

Clayton
W4KVW


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 14, 2017, 02:05:02 AM

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

― George Carlin

I need to start taking George's advice. LOL!

In any case, if CQ goes all digital, it might help them stay in the business a little while longer, but no major magazine business has yet survived as a digital only magazine.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N3QE on March 16, 2017, 08:39:53 AM
You guys do know that the digital version looks exactly like the print version, it's just on your computer screen and you can adjust the size to fit your eyes, correct?

I have an electronic-only CQ magazine subscription. But the Zinio web-view reader is a pain in the rear to use. Paging through the magazine electronically takes like forever. I can look only back to Sept 2015 in back-issues, and the search facilities are very poor or nonexistent.

I get QST on both paper and electronically. The QST web-view reader is a slight step better than the Zinio reader but still a pain. What's neat about ARRL membership, is I get searchable QST going all the way back to the beginning of time. The electronic access really becomes hugely more valuable with the search features.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on March 16, 2017, 04:44:16 PM
Zinio works well for me, but I've got high-speed internet at the house so maybe that's a factor.  It has a text only mode, maybe that would speed it up for you.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on March 16, 2017, 07:32:41 PM
My CQ Feb issue arrived today.  QST April came two days ago.  I have to believe there are big financial problems at CQ.  But I must admit that the Feb issue has a number of good articles.  Worth reading. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on March 17, 2017, 05:49:55 AM
Just went over to the Hamvention site and it does not appear that CQ Magazine has even reserved a spot at Dayton this year and other posters said that they were not at Hamcation.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KA4KOE on April 01, 2017, 06:00:50 AM
They'd do a lot better if they paid their authors like they say they do. Ever wonder why Riley's column disappeared?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 01, 2017, 06:39:02 AM
Got my March and April print magazines in the mail today!!!

Ha Ha  April Fool


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 01, 2017, 03:58:19 PM
I received the April edition today, right on time.  March edition came March 1st, right on time.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 01, 2017, 06:10:59 PM
Yeah,  in your inbox.  Except I paid for a print magazine, not a zinio file, and that's what I expect.  Obviously what you expect and what you get (from these people) are two different things.  If I wanted a digital magazine, I probably would subscribe to The Spectrum Monitor, not CQ.  But I want a print magazine, and I expect it somewhat on time.  If they can't do that simple task, get out of the print business.   Do you have any pride left, Mr. Ross and Mr. Moseson?  Apparently not.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 02, 2017, 12:17:36 PM
There's a good article on Ham Radio Below 500 kHz and how to get started.  Very interesting.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 02, 2017, 01:05:39 PM
Put me in the with the group who wants a paper magazine.

I'm sorry, but PDF versions of a magazine are at best poor imitations of the real thing.  If they'd publish in HTML format, it would be a major improvement and display much better.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 02, 2017, 02:59:16 PM
No one is suggesting that any of you with a paper fetish change your ways.  But when July rolls around and you get your April issue check out the article on Ham Radio Below 500kHz.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 02, 2017, 03:09:21 PM
When July rolls around we may still be waiting for the March issue. BTW, you apparently missed the point of my post-- the fact is publishers who don't adapt to the best way to present material on a browser will perish. PDF files of the hard copy ain't gonna sell subs. And if they can't honor subs the online version will be toast.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 02, 2017, 03:41:05 PM
I was responding to several posts, not yours specifically.  I understood your point but I don't agree with it.  I'm very happy with the reading experience on Zinio and prefer it to HTML presentations (ie Kindle) that I have seen for material that includes photos and diagrams .  If I had to pay more for digital versions, I would, due to the many benefits, but am glad that so far I don't need to.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 02, 2017, 04:20:10 PM
I would guess that many entering this hobby are of the age where print magazines don't generate much interest. And even if they had any interest, they probably don't have any idea of CQ's late delivery issues, and don't follow these forums.

That said, how many would re-subscribe after a year of lousy service, or would even subscribe in the first place if they were aware of this.

When CQ finally wears the faithful down, and they stop sending back renewals,  I really doubt there will be enough revenue to support a digital only magazine.  

So for those of you who don't care about the print magazine, beware, because without it I fear your digital issues will disappear as well.  A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K2JF on April 03, 2017, 02:22:22 PM
I'm concerned... My issue of CQ has been arriving a month late. We're in the beginning of April and all I have is the February issue. One sign that disturbs me is advertising, or lack of it by MFJ. They have multiple pages in QST but nothing in CQ. That tells me something. I sure hope they don't go under the way 73 Magazine did some years back.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N4IAG on April 04, 2017, 06:07:12 AM
I'm concerned... My issue of CQ has been arriving a month late. We're in the beginning of April and all I have is the February issue. One sign that disturbs me is advertising, or lack of it by MFJ. They have multiple pages in QST but nothing in CQ. That tells me something. I sure hope they don't go under the way 73 Magazine did some years back.

Why would a company want to pay for advertising in a magazine that doesn't deliver their publication in a timely manor or not at all? For example, it doesn't do much good to advertise holiday deals that won't be seen until months later.

CQ has a history of stiffing its writers, vendors, and subscribers. It's no surprise they're losing advertisers. They've been running on fumes for a while now - I can't see their little house of cards lasting all that much longer.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 04, 2017, 06:40:46 AM
Stop selling print subscriptions then.  They are committing fraud.  If you pay via credit card, the credit card company will refund the charges, so even they recognize this.  Sad.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N3QE on April 04, 2017, 09:46:25 AM
Put me in the with the group who wants a paper magazine.

I'm sorry, but PDF versions of a magazine are at best poor imitations of the real thing.  If they'd publish in HTML format, it would be a major improvement and display much better.

I subscribe to CQ electronically - all issues arrive on-time electronically - but do not subscribe by paper because they'd come months later on paper.

The CQ electronic subscription is not by PDF or HTML. I wish it was by PDF, it would be much better if it was by PDF. Instead it's by an app called "Zinio" which is a huge PITA to use.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 05, 2017, 04:32:14 AM
Stop selling print subscriptions then.  They are committing fraud.  If you pay via credit card, the credit card company will refund the charges, so even they recognize this.  Sad.

I paid for a three year subscription several years ago. When I was getting (maybe) magazines months late, and after numerous calls and emails (most unanswered and ignored) and with about 15 months left on the subscription, I asked for a cancellation and refund of the balance of the subscription. They cancelled the subscription, but never refunded the money. It was also too late to get any money back from the credit card company. I think you only have 60 or 90 days to file a dispute. You cannot file years later because of problems on a three year subscription.

Now if they would have just said they do not have the money to refund me and asked me to please keep the subscription, I might have hung in there. But they did not and kept feeding us lies like "production problems" and post office lost the magazines or they got pushed into a corner and misplaced or whatever garbage they kept feeding people.

They keep sending me offers to subscribe and I keep sending them back with notes to remind them they still have my money and to use that for the subscription, but nothing ever comes of it.

If I was to speculate, I would say they had financial issues a few years ago. They somehow received an infusion of cash and got back on track again for a few years. Now, that cash is gone, people are not subscribing like they need, advertisers in some cases lost faith and aren't advertising, and now there is not enough money to send out the paper magazine. When they get enough cash in from new or renewal subs or advertisers pay, then they can send out one of the late issues and you finally get a paper magazine. I don't know if this is the case, but it is just the way the situation looks to me.

Here is another indication. They were not at the Orlando Hamcation this year, and as far as I can see, not signed up for the Dayton Hamvention at this point. I don't ever remember them not being at Dayton.

I think if they would just honestly level with people about their situation and asked for support from the amateur community, they might get it. But all they do is anger and betray their customer base by ignoring everyone, not commenting with the truth, or even solicit input from amateurs on electronic versus paper delivery - in other words, would you still subscribe if there were no paper magazine? Or if you could only get electronic would you start subscribing?

The management there just has the wrong attitude and approach to the situation and as a result, just tend to make things worse instead of better.

Just my opinion.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 05, 2017, 08:05:55 AM
Stop selling print subscriptions then.  They are committing fraud.  If you pay via credit card, the credit card company will refund the charges, so even they recognize this.  Sad.

I paid for a three year subscription several years ago. When I was getting (maybe) magazines months late, and after numerous calls and emails (most unanswered and ignored) and with about 15 months left on the subscription, I asked for a cancellation and refund of the balance of the subscription. They cancelled the subscription, but never refunded the money. It was also too late to get any money back from the credit card company. I think you only have 60 or 90 days to file a dispute. You cannot file years later because of problems on a three year subscription.

Now if they would have just said they do not have the money to refund me and asked me to please keep the subscription, I might have hung in there. But they did not and kept feeding us lies like "production problems" and post office lost the magazines or they got pushed into a corner and misplaced or whatever garbage they kept feeding people.

They keep sending me offers to subscribe and I keep sending them back with notes to remind them they still have my money and to use that for the subscription, but nothing ever comes of it.

If I was to speculate, I would say they had financial issues a few years ago. They somehow received an infusion of cash and got back on track again for a few years. Now, that cash is gone, people are not subscribing like they need, advertisers in some cases lost faith and aren't advertising, and now there is not enough money to send out the paper magazine. When they get enough cash in from new or renewal subs or advertisers pay, then they can send out one of the late issues and you finally get a paper magazine. I don't know if this is the case, but it is just the way the situation looks to me.

Here is another indication. They were not at the Orlando Hamcation this year, and as far as I can see, not signed up for the Dayton Hamvention at this point. I don't ever remember them not being at Dayton.

I think if they would just honestly level with people about their situation and asked for support from the amateur community, they might get it. But all they do is anger and betray their customer base by ignoring everyone, not commenting with the truth, or even solicit input from amateurs on electronic versus paper delivery - in other words, would you still subscribe if there were no paper magazine? Or if you could only get electronic would you start subscribing?

The management there just has the wrong attitude and approach to the situation and as a result, just tend to make things worse instead of better.

Just my opinion.



What he said.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 05, 2017, 08:35:39 AM
I guess it's time to start the count down clock again.  April 5 and still no March print issue.

The execs must read these forums, so why not just fess up and plead sympathy from the faithful.  It is said that all publicity is good publicity, but in this case, not so much.

NUT, you probably are on the black list due to your honest criticism.  You make a good point that if they still owe you money or issues, use that credit against the mailing campaigns.  They probably have a contract with a fulfillment house for these mailers, and the persons who open the envelopes has no clue what you are suggesting.  Ross/Moseson should read your last post and take it to heart.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9CW on April 05, 2017, 08:48:04 AM
According to the Dayton Hamvention's Indoor Vendor's List, CQ has reserved a booth at this year's show, contrary to what WB8NUT posted above.  CQ's reserved booth number is 6315.  You can view this information at the link below:

https://info.pcboard.ca/hamvention/hamvention2017-indoor/

Please note, however, there are a number of booths reserved, but apparently yet currently unpaid, as of the latest update to this list (04/05/2017).   As one who worked in the amateur radio industry for over 20 years, I can unequivocally state that there are always a number of commercial exhibitors who reserve their booth spaces each year in advance, but wait until almost the last moment to actually send in their check to DARA for the booth space.  This is quite a normal situation, as it's always about maximizing a company's cash flow, especially since each indoor booth space costs from $575 to $650 per booth depending upon when it's paid.

It will, however, be quite interesting to see if there is any vendor fall-out this year due to the change in venue.  I've attended Dayton each year since 1974, either as a "civilian" or a member of the amateur radio industry, and although Hara Arena was far past its prime, and an embarrassment compared to the Tokyo HamFair's facilities and Germany's Friedrichshafen Ham Radio show held at the beautiful Friedrichshafen Messe, it was "Dayton" to many old timers.  It remains to be seen how the show will be attended this year at the Greene County Fairgrounds in Xenia.

73
Don W9CW


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 05, 2017, 11:11:53 AM
Hmmm...lets see, pay for a convention booth or pay for printing and postage for existing paid up subscribers,  decisions, decisions.

Maybe W2VU will give another interview (like he did two years ago), on whatever youtube channel that was, and paint another false picture. 

At least if he does show up at Dayton, all of the surrounding vendors should see a lot of foot traffic, as long as they keep ducking the arrows.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9CW on April 05, 2017, 03:27:39 PM
Yes, Rich Moseson W2VU, Editor of CQ, has given an online interview in the past on the status of the magazine.  However, W2VU is the Editor, not the Publisher.  W2VU is an employee (not an owner) of CQ Communications, Inc., just as are the others under the masthead of the publication.  In the publishing business, there are two sides of the publishing ledger... Editorial and Business.  The Editorial side of the ledger has nothing to do with, nor is responsible for, the Business side of the ledger - aka the day-to-day business operations of the company.  The Publisher is responsible for making payroll, processing and fulfilling subscriptions, interfacing newsstand agents, printer contracts, USPS postage for subs, et. al.

Just an FYI...

   


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 05, 2017, 04:26:05 PM
I'm well aware of all of that.  In fact, if you've been following this thread for long, I have been very vocal about the fact that the digital version is ALWAYS on time, and that, in my opinion, the editorial content is excellent.

That said, if you look at the masthead of the magazine, there appear to be at most 10 people on staff, mostly clerical, and if you think W2VU doesn't have say in the matter, you are kidding yourself.  Perhaps my angst should be directed more toward Dick Ross, but I think Rich Moseson is more that just an 'employee' in this farce.   

What does he do, act like Susan Rice, and go out and lie, at the direction of the President.  If this dog is dying, then bury it, but stop acting like all is well.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K2JF on April 05, 2017, 04:41:27 PM
why don't you leave your political views out of this.. save them for Breitbart news where they would be appreciated


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 05, 2017, 04:58:07 PM
As Joe Friday once said, 'just the facts'. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 06, 2017, 02:11:27 AM
According to the Dayton Hamvention's Indoor Vendor's List, CQ has reserved a booth at this year's show, contrary to what WB8NUT posted above.  CQ's reserved booth number is 6315.  You can view this information at the link below:

https://info.pcboard.ca/hamvention/hamvention2017-indoor/



I stand corrected. The way the names are listed alphabetically, well are not alphabetically the way I would list them and just missed it. I look where I expected to find it.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 06, 2017, 02:13:53 AM
why don't you leave your political views out of this.. save them for Breitbart news where they would be appreciated

It was a perfect analogy. Not political at all.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 06, 2017, 04:46:53 AM
According to the Dayton Hamvention's Indoor Vendor's List, CQ has reserved a booth at this year's show, contrary to what WB8NUT posted above.  CQ's reserved booth number is 6315.  You can view this information at the link below:

https://info.pcboard.ca/hamvention/hamvention2017-indoor/



I stand corrected. The way the names are listed alphabetically, well are not alphabetically the way I would list them and just missed it. I look where I expected to find it.

The further clarify, the April 1 listing of the Hamvention vendors - the website was still on my browser from the other day - did NOT have CQ as a registered vendor. Their registration must have only recently happened.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 06, 2017, 04:46:01 PM
I got my February print issue on March 10th, so by that logic if I get my March issue tomorrow, April 7th, does that mean it came early?   Don't answer that question.

Anybody, anywhere get their March print issue yet?  Did they even send them to HRO stores?

It is just about to the point that CQ actually is a digital only magazine, those of us who paid for print issues are just too damn dumb to realize it.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on April 06, 2017, 06:38:58 PM
I hope they can last until late this year.  Last month on my subscription is June.  Might get it by winter?  No more renewals for me.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 07, 2017, 05:26:34 AM
And yet, they will go to Dayton and put on a happy face.   Come on guys, we are all sympathetic to your plight, but we are also your customer base.  How many of us do you think will renew subscriptions?  If your strategy is death by attrition, it's working.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KR4BD on April 07, 2017, 08:35:12 AM
My February issue of CQ arrived about a week into March.  March issue is still AWOL as I write this. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 07, 2017, 11:56:17 AM
I think they are making a mistake by not informing folks if issues are being delayed.  At this point they are losing future renewals and facing a dwindling customer and advertising base.  A lack of advertisers kills most magazines.  Subs don't pay the bills.

Pete


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 07, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
Yup, and without paid circulation numbers, advertisers have no incentive.  Last year they didn't even list a 'Certificate of Ownership and Circulation', or whatever it's called.  They snuck it into a small paragraph on the masthead page.  Because the numbers were awful.

How would you like to be the sales manager for CQ right now? 

I guess their question of the day is 'can we survive as a digital only publication?'.

Do you think anyone there reads these forums?  I'll bet they do.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9IQ on April 07, 2017, 12:24:48 PM
From the January 2016 issue:

(ISSN 0007-893X) Volume 72, No. 1 . Published monthly by CQ
Communications, Inc., 1 7 W. John Street, Hicksville, NY 1 1 801 ,
Telephone 51 6-681 -2922. Periodical postage paid at Hicksville,
NY 11801 and additional offices. Statement of Ownership,
Management and Circulation, October 1, 2015. 17 W. John
Street, Hicksville, NY 11801. Publication #0007-893X. Issued
monthly, subscription price $38.95 per year (12 issues).
Publisher: Richard A. Ross; Editor: Richard S. Moseson: owned
by CQ Communications, Inc. Stockholders: Richard A. Ross.
Circulation (Average of Preceding 12 Months): Net Press Run
20,431 , Mail Subscriptions 1 8,260 Sales Through Dealers and
News Agents 9,115, Other Classes Mailed 404, Total Paid
1 8,664 Free Distribution 231 , Total Distribution 1 8,895, Copies
Not Distributed 1,536, Total 20,431. Paid Electronic Copies
9,1 15, Total Paid Print Copies + Paid Electronic Copies 27,779,
Total Print Distribution + Paid Electronic Copies 28,010.
Circulation (single issue nearest filing date): 21,100, Mail
Subscriptions 17,713, Sales Through Dealers and News
Agents 9,505 Other Classes Mailed 388, Total Paid 18,101,
Free Distribution 233, Total Distribution 18,334, Copies Not
Distributed 2,766, Total 21, 100. Paid Electronic Copies 9,505,
Total Paid Print Copies + Paid Electronic Copies 27,606, Total
Print Distribution + Paid Electronic Copies 27,839. s/Dorothy
Kehrwieder, Business Manager.

- Glenn W9IQ


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 07, 2017, 01:05:46 PM
Very confusing.  You can read it a couple of ways.  Looks like government speak.  However you interpret this, looks like about 27,000 a month, 17,000 digital and 8000 print, the rest in never-never land.

And these numbers were October 2015, I bet thing are worse now.

I can't see how they could possible carry on with the print mag with only 8000 paid subscribers.

Am I reading this wrong?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9IQ on April 07, 2017, 01:16:34 PM
You are interpreting it incorrectly. 18,600+ paid print subscribers and 9,100+ paid electronic subscribers.

- Glenn W9IQ


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 07, 2017, 01:46:02 PM
Tnx Glenn, I see now, still gobbeldegook.  Spelled that wrong, I'm sure.

So if you do the math, 18,000 subs x $36 divided by 12 months provides $54,000 a month (out of subscription revenue) for printing and postage.  If it costs $2 a piece to print, and $1 to mail, that should work.  Should be a wash, with ad revenue as the gravy.

So what's the problem?   Rent, salaries, benefits, taxes, undercapitalization, decrease in advertising, decrease in subscribers?  Who knows, I just wish they would level with us.  It's far easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.  


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 07, 2017, 01:56:41 PM
Wow, go over to the Ten Tec rants and read the statement made by their owner. (bottom of page 18).  If only someone at CQ would be so honest with us.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 07, 2017, 03:09:56 PM
The press run should give a good idea of the maximum number of paid subs. Some are earmarked for news stands (not a big mover), comps, etc.  80% are probably paid mail subs. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 08, 2017, 04:35:05 PM
When Popular Communications magazine crapped out in 2013 and merged into CQPlus (short lived), they had two digital issues already out on Zinio.  Their conscience must have bothered them after they screwed the print subscribers, so they put a link on the web site, offering free PDF downloads to anyone for the final two issues that were never printed.

So if they decide to go all digital, I at least hope they have decency to do this again. They do offer a link to Zinio if you can get a response from anyone in Hicksville.  I can't see this turning out well for us print only folks.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 09, 2017, 04:13:43 AM
If you want a quality magazine that truly offers a differing point of view, join the RSGB and get RadCom instead of wasting your money on CQ. RadCom comes from Europe and it arrives each and every month just like QST. They truly have differing content and a lot of things that you don't find in QST (or even CQ if you could actually get delivery of that rag).

Stop sending good money after bad. Spend it with the Brits instead and you will actually get a magazine each money. Oh, and they other benefits for their members besides just the magazine.

After CQ took my money and failed to give me what I paid for, I joined RSGB and now into my third year of membership and RadCom magazine deliveries Sure, it is a bit more money, but at least you get what you paid for if you want a print + digital magazine. You get both just like you do with your ARRL membership.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 09, 2017, 11:56:27 AM
I can't see this turning out well for us print only folks.

Print-only folks will continue to see a decline in the variety and quality of publications that are available.  Personally I hope that more publications move to digital-only so that the money spent on printing and mailing can be applied to content.  It would also benefit the environment to use less paper and ink and motor vehicles to deliver them.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 09, 2017, 03:36:54 PM
And who else suffers?  The people who work at the printers, supply the paper, ink, the motor carriers who deliver to the Post Office, the already broke Post Office.

That sword cuts both ways.  Although, I do agree with you in that the expense saved in printing and mailing could go to better content.  But maybe not, they are in business to make money, not friends.

Getting back to my original question, has anyone, anywhere, received a March print issue yet.  I have not, and as of tomorrow, this is as late as they have been in this latest debacle.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 10, 2017, 04:39:05 AM
I see on the CQ Magazine website that a print subscription is $36 per year and a digital subscription is $25 per year.  Since they're not sending the print copies I guess you print readers are subsidizing my digital subscription and making it cheaper for me and I should say thanks.  Thanks.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on April 10, 2017, 05:18:59 AM
And who else suffers?  The people who work at the printers, supply the paper, ink, the motor carriers who deliver to the Post Office, the already broke Post Office.

That sword cuts both ways.  Although, I do agree with you in that the expense saved in printing and mailing could go to better content.  But maybe not, they are in business to make money, not friends.

Getting back to my original question, has anyone, anywhere, received a March print issue yet.  I have not, and as of tomorrow, this is as late as they have been in this latest debacle.

It is called...that's life. The world does not guarantee anyone a job for life. If you work in a dying industry, and fail to train for the future, then you will probably suffer because of your failure, not others. I personally changed career paths twice as the previous industry I was in was seeing failure for a future. The mentality of the 50's and 60's that you get hired by a factory and spend your working life there has long since become a memory.

As to the USPS, the tiny amount of volume CQ generates will have microscopic negative impact...if any. The contractors that distribute the mail to the local USPS will still run their routes. They don't take just mags on a truck to the local USPS. And the printers ship to the USPS in bulk from everything they print. So again, the routes will be run.

Same with the printers...with such a small volume, they probably wouldn't see much difference on the bottom line.

The pure economic impact of CQ is tiny. And I am sure the suppliers have long since adapted to the changing times, or are preparing to die like the dinosaurs.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 10, 2017, 10:49:23 AM
That's a pretty cold analysis, but to each his own.  Remember the old saw; When your neighbor gets laid off, it's a recession.  When you get laid off, it's a depression.

Now back to my question, any recipients of the March print issue?   Nothing here.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W3PH on April 10, 2017, 12:34:30 PM
Stop sending good money after bad. Spend it with the Brits instead and you will actually get a magazine each money. Oh, and they other benefits for their members besides just the magazine.

I'll second that.  I'm in my 2nd year of RSGB membership & enjoy RadCom a lot. 

I have a digital sub to CQ but haven't been reading it thoroughly - it just isn't as interesting as it once was. 

I also have a life membership with ARRL and I do read QST every month. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB4IVF on April 11, 2017, 09:42:47 AM
"Now back to my question, any recipients of the March print issue?   Nothing here."

I was told today it's being mailed out now.

Howard


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 11, 2017, 09:58:54 AM
'Now' in CQ speak is like 'years' as in dog years.  That means they may (or may not) be going out sometime this week (or month).

Either way I don't see how management can look at themselves in the mirror.  They must either be embarrassed to tears or laughing hysterically at us 'rubes'.  They would have to pay me a lot to answer the phones up there.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 12, 2017, 02:50:14 AM
It would also benefit the environment to use less paper and ink and motor vehicles to deliver them.

OMG, that is too funny. Paper is a renewal resource. Who cares, the more use, the more jobs we create. Digital creates far fewer jobs. Paper manufacturers, post office workers, printers. Digital, well not so much. Mail trucks are going to burn the gas every day whether or not they come with the magazine, so might as well bring it. Oh, and that creates jobs for the mail truck manufacturer as well as the folks fracking for the oil. So see the damage to the economy a digital only magazine creates?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 12, 2017, 02:53:39 AM

I was told today it's being mailed out now.

Howard


Two oldest lies..."the check is in the mail" and "your CQ magazine is being mailed out now."

So which edition are they mailing? March, April or May?

CQ's new motto should be "we deliver last month's amateur radio news next month!"


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 12, 2017, 04:38:21 AM
Paper is a renewal resource.

The issue isn't whether it's renewable, the issue is the cost, which could instead go into content creation

Who cares, the more use, the more jobs we create. Digital creates far fewer jobs.

If you're buying CQ Magazine as part of a jobs program please stop your daily whining about the issues being late

Mail trucks are going to burn the gas every day whether or not they come with the magazine, so might as well bring it.

You need to learn some physics.  Less weight means less gas, even if the trucks still drive.  Less gas, less emissions.

Oh, and that creates jobs for the mail truck manufacturer as well as the folks fracking for the oil.

Again, if you're buying CQ Magazine as part of a jobs program then please stop your daily whining about the issues being late

So see the damage to the economy a digital only magazine creates?
[/quote]

No, your logic is sloppy. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 12, 2017, 06:35:57 AM
If anyone thinks that the money CQ could save from eliminating printing and mailing costs would go to additional content is smoking the good stuff.

$36 annually for print and digital is most likely all that the market will bear.  Ditto $25 annually for digital only.  I don't know how many pages 'Spectrum Monitor' contains, but probably no more that the 102 pages of CQ, and they cost $25 as well.

And not to start another fight, but I personally feel ARRL is pushing their luck at $49.00/year.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W4XK on April 12, 2017, 06:08:50 PM
May QST in the mailbox today. Still hoping to get a March CQ
someday. ???

Bill W4XK


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9IQ on April 12, 2017, 06:11:25 PM
March issue received today.

- Glenn W9IQ


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WF2V on April 13, 2017, 03:18:43 AM
I subscribed for over 26 years, then a couple years back they screwed my delivery and issues. I got the December Christmas issue in April!  Not going back after that treatment. No money returned, just nothing. No thanks.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 13, 2017, 08:57:11 AM
April 13, no sign of March CQ, May QST in mail box.  Awful.

This thread should be moved down to the 'Buyers Beware' forum.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KR4BD on April 13, 2017, 12:36:51 PM
Yup.  This is pathetic.  I think with all the credits I got from their string of defunct publications (World Radio News Lifer, Popular Communications, etc.) plus the fact I had renewed for the maximum term for CQ, I still have not received the March or April issue of CQ.  You would think they would at least give us access to the digital version until they got the printed version of CQ back on schedule.  When (and IF) the printed versions of March and April arrive, all the information of DXpeditions, Contests, etc., will be very stale

Someone from CQ must be reading these comments.  How about an explanation ?

I have subscribed to CQ since the mid=1970's and your other NOW DEFUNCT magazines going back many years as well.

Tom, KR4BD
Lexington, KY


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 13, 2017, 01:39:11 PM
1. Credits, they don't give no stinking credits.

2. And now perhaps, the defunct CQ magazine


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 13, 2017, 04:09:45 PM
March issue:

http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416407385&o=ext


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 13, 2017, 06:17:55 PM
Thank you for providing that.  It reinforced why I don't want a digital magazine.  What a pain in the behind that Zinio format is.  For me, anyway.  To each his own.

However, I assume that you are not part of CQ, so how is it you can provide this to us, but CQ can't. (or won't)?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 13, 2017, 06:50:50 PM
I was a former editor and columnist for a few of their discontinued publications.

That link was offered  on their website; I guess they provided it to appease subscribers who are waiting for their mail subscription issues.  And yes, I also hate the Zino format.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AC7CW on April 13, 2017, 08:13:31 PM
I rolled the dice and got a print + digital subscription. So far, so [almost] good: I got the March issue today...

Was Wayne Green allied with these people or competition? He did the biggest blunder ever in publishing. He had a magazine dedicated to the TRS-80 Model 4, all kinds of cottage industries sprang up around that computer then Radio Shack announced that they had never been able to sell the first 1000 of them. Wayne just stopped sending the magazine... Radio Shack had the strangest offer even way before their announcement. If you bought one, after awhile all you had to do was say that it was lost or stolen and they would give you another one, no further questioning. Old genius Mensa member Wayne didn't pick up on that :)


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 13, 2017, 08:36:18 PM
Wayne worked for CQ back when Cowan (think I got that right) owned the publication.  He split and went off to form his own magazine empire, starting with 73 Magazine.  They were direct competitors.

Pete


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 14, 2017, 04:30:24 AM
March issue:

http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416407385&o=ext

Just looked over this issue. Nothing really there to excite a reader. Page count seems to be down as well as advertisers.

People, move on to something else. Get a RadCom sub and RSGB membership in addition to QST and ARRL membership.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 14, 2017, 06:23:47 AM
Putting the link to the Zinio March issue is a sneaky yet tacit admission of their problem.  Who do they think they are fooling?  They must read these forums, so open message to Hicksville.  Fess up.
We spent our hard earned money on your product, and you are cheating us.  At least if you fessed up, we might find some compassion in our hearts for your plight.  If you keep treating us like we are stupid, we are less likely to send you any more money.  How would that work out for you?

They might as well put the April link up too, it's already halfway late.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on April 14, 2017, 06:49:29 AM
Since the on-line magazine is available on time, the only reason the print versions are late has to be lack of money to pay for printing and/or postage.  Just a matter of time now.  Goodby, CQ Magazine.  It was a great run.  Sorry to see you go.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 14, 2017, 10:09:00 AM
...tick...tick...tick    Mailman has come and gone.   April 14th and still no March print CQ.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KR4BD on April 14, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
BREAKING NEWS....

The MARCH issue of CQ hit my mailbox TODAY (April 14).  So did the MAY issue of QST.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 15, 2017, 05:24:57 AM
Renewing a subscription to CQ Magazine is the equivalent of sending good money after bad.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 15, 2017, 08:31:53 AM
And thus will seal their fate.

BTW, Saturday April 15 mail has come and gone, no March CQ.

Pitiful.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 15, 2017, 08:52:19 AM
Keep the faith.  March arrived here in Friday's mail. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 15, 2017, 02:19:00 PM
The April CQ Magazine has a good introductory article on meteor scatter titled "Pinging the Roxs with MSK144" but it contains the odd statement that meteor scatter QSOs take longer in the "afternoon when the number of random meteors entering the earth's atmosphere is known to be less frequent."  Since it's always afternoon somewhere this seems unlikely to be the reason but maybe I just don't get it.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 15, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
What us print subscribers don't get is prompt delivery.  The meteors take care of themselves.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on April 15, 2017, 07:15:43 PM
But you're creating jobs, so you're happy.  And when I get meteor scatter to work, I'll be happy.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WD4ELG on April 16, 2017, 03:11:55 PM
K4AMK:

Meteor scatter QSO's are typically limited to 1400 mi.  The stations will therefore often be in the same time zone, or +/- 1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_burst_communications


Why not in the afternoon?  http://www.astrosurf.com/luxorion/qsl-meteor-scatter.htm

in general summer months are the most favourable to ham activities
                because of the strong ionization of the ionosphere. Mid-August
                is also one of the best; with the recurrent
                apparition of the famous Perseid meteor shower. But do not
                try to work an MS station too early in the evening
                because most meteors hit the Earth after midnight. Indeed in the
                first hour of the morning and until dawn (say between 3 am and
                the sunrise), the eastern side of the Earth captures much more
                meteors that strike also the atmosphere at higher speed than on the
                opposite side where meteors have to catch up with Earth on its
                orbit to be visible. Therefore in the morning the meteors are more numerous,
                they are more bolids and their trail is also brighter than
                before midnight.



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KA4DPO on April 17, 2017, 12:38:18 PM
CQ magazine is pathetic.  I don't even remember how long ago it was but I paid for a three year subscription.  I received two issues like clockwork, then I got a note from them telling me I would be receiving the little World Radio pamphlets instead of CQ.  Needless to say I felt ripped off and never even thought about another subscription with CQ and never will.  Hope you get your magazines but count me out, they stink.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W5JON on April 17, 2017, 01:12:44 PM
Hi,

As an ARRL Member for 58 years, and ARRL Life Member for 35 years, QST has always been here every month, never fail.

Several years ago after "years" of CQ, I dropped my subscription.  Seems I was only getting half of the issues I was paying for, and only getting excuses as to why.  Besides, half of them were mangled, CQ always blamed the Post Office, however it was interesting,  CQ Magazine was the ONLY magazine that I would receive "mangled". ... I do not miss CQ at all.

So I joined RSGB and get RadCom, like QST it is a great read. RadCom is very well done, and a excellent balance to QST.  Like others on here, I highly recommend it.

73,

John  W5JON - V47JA - G0AOH
  


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 19, 2017, 07:38:30 AM
Yes, isn't it amazing that the RSGB can get a magazine to me from across the pond on-time each and every month and not a single issue has ever been mangled as they always come in a nice protective envelope. I don't mind paying a bit more for quality and service which I never received from CQ in the past.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WA8UEG on April 21, 2017, 06:48:05 AM
I wouldn't know if mine comes on time or 3 months late. I never check which month it is, don't really care as long as I get 36 copies for my 3 year subscription. When it comes I read through the articles that catch my eye and after I'm done I pass it on to an old timer I have breakfast with every week. Our hobby has so many facets that many of the articles are of interest and many are not but usually at least a couple are of interest. Same with QST.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on April 21, 2017, 06:31:24 PM
Steve, I hope you get all 36 issues of your 3 yr subscription.  Me, I have 3 more left on my 1yr new subscription.  Hope I get all three.  As far as out of date issues, I can go to my doctor's office to see old magazines.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 22, 2017, 02:37:27 AM
The May RadCom issue arrived yesterday and on time as usual. May QST arrived a week ago. Two magazines that reliably deliver.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on April 22, 2017, 08:23:22 PM
Go start a threat on how great RadComm is.  And yes, at one time I was receiving a comp copy of
 virtually every ham mag published. The only thing memorable in RadComm was Pat Hawker's column, and he is now SK.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on April 23, 2017, 05:01:42 AM
Go start a threat on how great RadComm is.  And yes, at one time I was receiving a comp copy of
 virtually every ham mag published. The only thing memorable in RadComm was Pat Hawker's column, and he is now SK.

Why would I start a threat?

How did you get to be so special to receive free copies of all the ham radio magazines?

If you are no longer receiving RadCom, then how do you even know what's in it now?



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: GM1FLQ on April 25, 2017, 12:20:50 AM
Go start a threat on how great RadComm is.  And yes, at one time I was receiving a comp copy of
 virtually every ham mag published. The only thing memorable in RadComm was Pat Hawker's column, and he is now SK.

Why would I start a threat?


Well why not, along with Kim John Long ('DPO the small fat man syndrome one) you clearly make up things as you go along, things like..........

"So he is just a lowly Foundation license. Well I guess I was just correct on the one count."
(pssss, top tip - foundation license hadn't even been introduced in the UK when I was first licensed in 1984)

Posting untruths is lowly.  ;)



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on April 29, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
Holy Cow, a Hicksville miracle.  My April print issue was in my mailbox today and it's still April.

Perhaps there is hope yet. (or not).


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KR4BD on April 29, 2017, 04:10:00 PM
Holy Cow, a Hicksville miracle.  My April print issue was in my mailbox today and it's still April.

Perhaps there is hope yet. (or not).

Heck!  I got you beat.  My April issue actually arrived yesterday.  And...  for all the doubters, there was a good article with photos of the new HAMvention site in Xenia, OH.  I have my hotel reservation and admission ticket.  I've only missed about 5 HAMventions since 1975.

Tom, KR4BD



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AC7CW on April 30, 2017, 12:40:36 PM
I'm a new subscriber so I don't deserve the April issue yet. Have to pay my dues. I got the March one two days ago though so they must think that I'm at least a potential candidate for first class service. Truthfully, I don't mind that much, it's a fun read.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AC7CW on April 30, 2017, 01:24:22 PM
I'm a new subscriber so I don't deserve the April issue yet. Have to pay my dues. I got the March one two days ago though so they must think that I'm at least a potential candidate for first class service. Truthfully, I don't mind that much, it's a fun read.

Just realized that I have the April... I think I got it before the March actually...


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on May 01, 2017, 03:07:18 PM
May issue arrived today, May 1st.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on May 01, 2017, 04:02:34 PM
Maybe one of you guys can send me your April issue.  Mine hasn't come, not that I was holding my breath.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W5JON on May 01, 2017, 04:38:49 PM
May issue arrived today, May 1st.

Hi,

I bet it was the Zinio copy....... just a minor detail.  The paper copy should arrive in August (maybe).

73,

John 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K4AMK on May 03, 2017, 04:18:44 AM
May issue arrived today, May 1st.

Hi,

I bet it was the Zinio copy....... just a minor detail.  The paper copy should arrive in August (maybe).

73,

John 

Of course it is the Zinio version, I wouldn't mess around with paper when this is so much better.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W5JON on May 03, 2017, 06:16:22 AM
May issue arrived today, May 1st.

Hi,

I bet it was the Zinio copy....... just a minor detail.  The paper copy should arrive in August (maybe).

73,

John  

Of course it is the Zinio version, I wouldn't mess around with paper when this is so much better.



Hi,

Fine for you, enjoy you Zinio copy.

But for those, that for the years have PAID for the paper copy, and have only received HALF of the subscription they PAID for, and even those were MONTHS LATE, many are not fine with it.  That is why after YEARS of subscribing, I got tired of it, and dropped my subscription, and went to RadCom.

73,

John



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on May 03, 2017, 05:46:20 PM
Glad to see the American free market and the ability for people to choose is alive and well.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on May 09, 2017, 05:08:03 PM
Lets not let the folks at CQ forget that their May print issue is now 10 days late.  Just because the April issue actually showed up in April doesn't let them off the hook. 

For the love of Pete, why can't they just get caught up and stay there.  It's a joke looking at all of the out of date stuff.  Have they no shame?  Apparently not.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on May 10, 2017, 04:40:13 AM
Lets not let the folks at CQ forget that their May print issue is now 10 days late.  Just because the April issue actually showed up in April doesn't let them off the hook. 

For the love of Pete, why can't they just get caught up and stay there.  It's a joke looking at all of the out of date stuff.  Have they no shame?  Apparently not.

Why can't they get caught up? Well let's speculate. Clearly they are able to create the content and get it print ready because it shows up on Zinio a day or two before the publication month. So the only explanation that seems possible, and this is just my speculation, is that they do not have the money to print and/or mail a paper copy. So when they get enough money together from paid subs and sales of advertising, they are able to send out a magazine. The trouble is that I don't know how they can get out of this mess they appear to be in. The longer it goes on, the more subscribers who get frustrated and refuse to renew.

They should try going all digital as a last ditch effort, but then they would have to convert all the paper subs to digital subs and they probably have to pay Zinio for that and if they do not have the money to do that, they might be stuck with keeping paper. The other challenge is that by going all digital, the price of a sub drops and typically, so does the ad revenue.

As a wise man once said, "when you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, stop digging."


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on May 21, 2017, 12:31:43 PM
Did CQ have a booth at Xenia?   Anybody stop by to see them?  If so, what were their lame excuses this year? 

Inquiring minds want to know.

May 21 and no May print issue yet.  Just sayin'.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on May 21, 2017, 02:02:41 PM
They had a tiny booth in one of the tents. Did not even bother to stop to talk to them because I have no interest.

I did talk to a guy at the RSGB booth who also gave up on CQ Magazine and was joining RSGB to get their magazine.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on May 21, 2017, 02:09:27 PM
One of you miscreants must have stopped by to give ol' W2VU the business, lets hear the 'fake news'.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on May 21, 2017, 06:30:44 PM
One of you miscreants must have stopped by to give ol' W2VU the business, lets hear the 'fake news'.

I hear ya... but W2VU is the editorial side of the house...  there is probably not much he can say.

Pete


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on May 23, 2017, 11:32:52 AM
May was in the mailbox today.  FWIIW


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on May 23, 2017, 01:23:11 PM
Mine too, how 'bout that.  Only 23 days late.  We are so used to poor performance that this seems almost acceptable.  Except it's not.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on May 25, 2017, 06:38:29 PM
March issue was received April 17.  April on May 10.  May on May 25, today.  Getting better.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on May 26, 2017, 03:35:47 AM
March issue was received April 17.  April on May 10.  May on May 25, today.  Getting better.

Got my CQ replacement magazine today. June issue of Radcom. Comes all the way from Europe on time every month. Ditch CQ for Radcom and get a timely magazine plus RSGB benefits. Electronic edition is included free with your membership.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on May 26, 2017, 03:40:17 AM
March issue was received April 17.  April on May 10.  May on May 25, today.  Getting better.

Yep. Every time they get behind, they slowly catch up again.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: HAMFESTS on May 26, 2017, 06:36:02 AM
to WB8NUT,

I want to subscribe to RadCom but when I'm going through the process the security lock in the URL box for a secure payment never shows up. (Like US websites)

I'm leery of putting in my credit card info.

Did you have this same issue as me or did you just put in all your info and it worked out ok?

Or is it normal for the Europe websites to display this way?

Thanks for any help.
73


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AD5X on May 26, 2017, 02:42:09 PM
to WB8NUT,

I want to subscribe to RadCom but when I'm going through the process the security lock in the URL box for a secure payment never shows up. (Like US websites)

I'm leery of putting in my credit card info.

Did you have this same issue as me or did you just put in all your info and it worked out ok?

Or is it normal for the Europe websites to display this way?

Thanks for any help.
73

You can subscribe through the ARRL.  15 issues for the price of 12 for new subscribers ($69).
Phil - AD5X


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on May 26, 2017, 02:57:41 PM
to WB8NUT,

I want to subscribe to RadCom but when I'm going through the process the security lock in the URL box for a secure payment never shows up. (Like US websites)

I'm leery of putting in my credit card info.

Did you have this same issue as me or did you just put in all your info and it worked out ok?

Or is it normal for the Europe websites to display this way?

Thanks for any help.
73

You can subscribe through the ARRL.  15 issues for the price of 12 for new subscribers ($69).
Phil - AD5X

I don't recall having any problems at all, but I would take Phil's suggestion and just subscribe via the ARRL and get the extra issues.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: HAMFESTS on May 26, 2017, 09:59:21 PM
Thanks guys

I will follow your suggestion!


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: AD4IE on May 28, 2017, 07:41:46 PM
I enjoy the magazine; however, I usually get my issue about the third week of the month listed on the cover. So most everything that they list as coming up has already happened. Charlotte, NC.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N3PS on May 31, 2017, 12:18:47 PM
The electronic edition via Zinio seems to come out almost week after the print edition is mailed :(


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on May 31, 2017, 05:21:06 PM
The Zinio version seems to come out on the 1st or 2nd of the month like clockwork.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on June 25, 2017, 05:33:25 AM
Did anyone receive their May or June PAPER copies of CQ, and if you did, when did you receive them?


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on June 25, 2017, 08:57:20 AM
May issue arrived late, but it arrived before June.  Still watching for my June issue to show.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K0IZ on June 27, 2017, 05:46:36 PM
My June issue showed up today.  Has stuff on Field Day.  A bit late.  Last issue for me.  I dropped subscription three years ago after many years of loyal subscription.  Couldn't take the BS about printer problems, etc.  Last summer started up a new one year subscription to give them another (last) try.  Sorry, CQ, no renewal.  3 1/2 weeks late is not good enough. 


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on July 01, 2017, 12:54:41 PM
June mailed issue, last day of month...  July digital was on Zinio this morning, July 1st.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on July 02, 2017, 04:19:58 AM
June mailed issue, last day of month...  July digital was on Zinio this morning, July 1st.

Pathetic service.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WR3V on July 02, 2017, 05:46:42 AM
Beyond pathetic.  How do you think they survive financially?  By a shoe string, I suspect.  Good Lord, what would it take to just get caught up and stay there.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on July 02, 2017, 06:33:51 AM
As much as hams always complain about advertising, healthy magazines, in the past, always ran with an at least 50% advertising to editorial ratio.  Now we are down to two magazines fighting over advertisers who have internet marketing savvy.   Subscriptions don't cover a fraction of the cost.  I suspect they are fighting cash flow problems.  I'm not defending them, but it is a rough industry and times are changing.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on July 02, 2017, 07:38:18 AM
Which is why the print industry will be almost purely electronic soon.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on July 03, 2017, 03:31:48 AM
As much as hams always complain about advertising, healthy magazines, in the past, always ran with an at least 50% advertising to editorial ratio.  Now we are down to two magazines fighting over advertisers who have internet marketing savvy.   Subscriptions don't cover a fraction of the cost.  I suspect they are fighting cash flow problems.  I'm not defending them, but it is a rough industry and times are changing.

Advertising rates are dependent on the number of subscribers. The reason the number of subscribers has gone down is two-fold with CQ. First, they have had delivery problems with the print edition for years. Most believe it is a cash flow problem related to all the magazines they tried to publish.

The second thing that caused the drop in subscribers in my opinion is the horrible way in which they treated their customers. This I believe had a greater impact to retaining subscribers. Not being up-front and honest with the customer base, not issuing refunds, the reported non-payment to authors, etc. People understand businesses can have bad times and I believe had they been honest and upfront with the customers, I think a majority of people would have stood by them. But when customers come to realize that they are being lied to and deceived, then they leave and many will never come back making a bad situation even worse.

The only people responsible for this current situation is the management of the magazine. Not the customers, not the advertisers and not the challenges of the print industry.

There will always be print. Many magazines have tried going digital only and it has not worked and they had to revert to a hybrid model. Some have started as all digital and it seems to be working. A lot depends on the quality of the content. For example, The Spectrum Monitor started and remains all digital. You get a pdf file each month. You don't have to use Zinio or some other service. Few advertisements since the subscription supports the magazine. The content is excellent. It can work in some instances. But if you ask most people, they still prefer a paper magazine to all digital.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on July 03, 2017, 03:45:13 AM
Yea that may be true. The trash mags will still be printed. But then most of their readers wouldn't know the difference between a pdf and an exe. Anything with real content will be all digital soon. Those that reverted back from all digital to a hybrid most likely fell into the trash category.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WB8NUT on July 03, 2017, 11:13:50 AM
Those who think things will go all digital, better think again. It appears to not be the case.

https://digiday.com/media/digital-publishers-reviving-print-corpse/

https://www.theguardian.com/media-network/media-network-blog/2013/mar/07/fall-rise-magazines-print-digital

http://www.freeportpress.com/print-vs-digital-how-we-really-consume-our-magazines/

http://www.mequoda.com/articles/digital-magazine-publishing/digital-only-magazines/


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on July 03, 2017, 08:55:29 PM
LOL...Just like the sound barrier couldn't be broke. Just like AM was the mode to use instead of SSB. Just like cell phones were a passing fad.   Bla bla bla. Can give many more examples, but the point is made. Those who need to cling to the past are the ones that scream the loudest when change comes. And those who won't change will be left behind.

The world is changing rapidly. What didn't work a couple years ago was executed in a different world.

I did think again. Switched all my reading material to digital. No more trips to the recycling bin! Just right click and empty the trash when I am done. Need something again? Go to the website and find the article with a quick search. No stacks of paper to dig through. Just fast and convenient with no clutter!

When I look for something specific, a search engine can pretty much take you to the info you need. Again, digital. No other faster or easier way to do it. It is like having a world of information packed into my office! And no paper!

Paper!?! We don't need no stinkin paper!


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: WI8P on July 04, 2017, 08:26:33 AM
Those who think things will go all digital, better think again. It appears to not be the case.

https://digiday.com/media/digital-publishers-reviving-print-corpse/

https://www.theguardian.com/media-network/media-network-blog/2013/mar/07/fall-rise-magazines-print-digital

http://www.freeportpress.com/print-vs-digital-how-we-really-consume-our-magazines/

http://www.mequoda.com/articles/digital-magazine-publishing/digital-only-magazines/


Stories about what is currently happening are often not correct on what will happen.  There are still several generations around who grew up with printed material and prefer it to electronic form, but that demographic is changing.  My grand daughter has no text books.  No, she isn't in college, she is in second grade, but she has an Ipad with all the required books pre-loaded.  As her generation matures, they will find printed magazines and books a nuisance and unwanted just like many of my generation feel just the opposite.  Radio suffered a similar fate when television came out.  Lots of people said TV spelled the doom for radio, but they were only partially right.  AM radio, America's choice for news and sports did suffer extensively, to the point were many stations closed or were bought up by conglomerates who could keep them profitable only by offering cut rate advertising and providing canned programs over a multitude of stations to ease the production costs.  FM (no static at all) brought a resurgence by virtue of static free music, but it is quickly going the same route that AM was forced to take due to streaming music and Sirius radio.  When cars become self driving, video will rule supreme and I suspect it will come to be that radios will be omitted or offered only as an extra cost option.  Electronic print is the future, but it's still too early to move 100% into that direction.  That will change in the next 50 years though.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: VE3WGO on July 15, 2017, 07:53:16 PM
Digital is convenient, compact, and is super easy to search for articles or topics we want. 

But life isn't really linear..  it has discontinuities along the way, and companies and formats eventually die.  For example, I have a few stacks of old 73, Ham Radio, and Wireless World magazines with specific articles that were and still are of interest to me.  I can't go to any of their websites anymore because those companies are long dead.  Some people have attempted to scan them and have them up on archival but you can see that those sites are usually riddled with adware other questionable areas and generally Norton's isn't often happy about my visits.  I bought CDs but scan quality is always annoying.

I also have some digitized articles in old formats that my old XP computer can read but the formats are no longer supported.

So digital is convenient.  But if it`s important, paper lasts longer and someone is guaranteed to be able to read it 100 years later (just like Grandpa`s old photos).  And you know it.

Use both if you can.

73, Ed VE3WGO


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N4UE on July 24, 2017, 02:39:05 PM
Gee, not to get back on topic or anything...... ;D

I received my July issue today. Very nice, with a lot of articles selected for bed-time reading.

One thing I noticed....being an Icom 'fanboy', Icom had no ads in this issue.

Even QST has no Icom ads for the upcoming 7610.
Only place that mention it, is DXE.   Hmmmmmm.

ron
N4UE


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on July 30, 2017, 10:25:34 AM
Advertisers look for the most cost effective and productive advertising mediums.  A lack of magazine advertising means either they have found a better means to reach their customers, or perhaps they are also in a financial situation that precludes the expenses involved with printed media advertising.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: N3TJO on August 02, 2017, 08:47:10 AM
I subscribe to the digital CQ and QST and both display nicely on my 10.4" tablet. I also subscribe to the digital Spectrum Monitor which replaced Monitoring Times after that ceased publication.  The only paper subscription I have is QEX since it doesn't yet have a digital option.

Tommy


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KC4ZGP on August 02, 2017, 09:48:59 AM

CQ magazine. I've heard of that. Ain't that the one Wayne Green chided for being a contest-only magazine.

I reckon QST subscription numbers are high because many folks believe if they aren't an A.R.R.L. member, they're
pukes.

I saw a picture of Larry Price, an A.R.R.L. past president or something. I did not like the grin on his face. I saw thief.
I did not renew.

Astronomy and Sky and Telescope are my magazines of choice.

Kraus



Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on August 02, 2017, 09:59:38 AM
Most hams support the ARRL because it is our only voice in regulatory matters. 

Wayne Green?  Wasn't he the guy who formed the Institute of Amateur Radio, which was his vision as a replacement for the ARRL?

ARRL and CQ are still around.  Last time I looked the IoAR, 73 and W2NSD were missing in action....

Pete


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KC4ZGP on August 02, 2017, 12:18:56 PM

Alright.

I'm on 18.136MHz phone at 2200UTC.

Kraus


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on August 02, 2017, 01:22:47 PM
1.8136MHz CW at 2200 GMT would be more productive on my end.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KC4ZGP on August 02, 2017, 01:41:51 PM
I'll make a deal.

We'll meet Friday, 2200UTC, Morse, 1.8136MHz. I hope my 5WPM isn't too fast for you.

This evening, 17 meters phone for me.

Tomorrow, some time with the Frau. She works nights. I don't feel good
being on the radio on her first night off.

OK?

Kraus


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on August 02, 2017, 03:00:10 PM
It is difficult for Wayne Green to do much since he died some time back.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KC4ZGP on August 02, 2017, 04:38:59 PM
1.8136MHz CW at 2200 GMT would be more productive on my end.

Change of plan.

I'm on frequency now. I'll listen until 0100UTC.

Kraus


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KC4ZGP on August 02, 2017, 06:31:28 PM

I reckon you didn't get my message in time.

I did talk to W9HAK and boy am I a bad copier. I thought I copied Sam for his name and the FCC
database says it's Bradford. I feel small.

And my fist is horrible. He said I was 339. I guess the fist is so bad a dit might sound like a dash
or vice-versa. Static crashes were no help either.

But I do know, I can have Morse fun like everyone else. Won't you join me.

Kraus


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: K1ZJH on August 03, 2017, 04:36:33 AM
It is difficult for Wayne Green to do much since he died some time back.

Sort of meets the definition of being MIA....


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: W9FIB on August 03, 2017, 05:59:43 AM
It is difficult for Wayne Green to do much since he died some time back.

Sort of meets the definition of being MIA....


But he is not missing. He died in New Hampshire in 2013. And he retired before he died. So what action is he missing from? "Sort of"? Not even close.

MIA is not a term to be used so callously when you know a family with a true MIA and have a greater understanding of its implications on the family and those around them.


Title: RE: How's CQ Magazine doing.
Post by: KC4ZGP on August 03, 2017, 09:15:30 AM
Ten-four to that.

Alrighty. I shall endeavor again on 160 Morse this evening.

I need the exercise. I'm a bad Morse-er.

How about one of you gentleman above? How about anyone?

1.8136MHz, 2200UTC.

I'm ready, Freddie.

Kraus