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Title: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: N4UE on September 02, 2017, 10:05:30 AM
This radio will really upset 'ole FLQ who hates anything newer than his stump trained sheep. ha ha

Plus, all the dummies who dislike the IC-7300 because they don't know what an RF Gain control or Attenuator does. "too much gain", etc. SMH
Really sad to see the dumbing down of Amateur Radio.....

This radio will be yet ANOTHER game change for Icom.......

ron
N4UE


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: G8YMW on September 02, 2017, 10:24:57 AM
I hope so Ron.
However this is only a prototype and it MAY not go into production.
I certainly am interested as there are no new multi-mode V/UHF radios being made and second hand ones are fetching new prices.
With the exception of the IC9100 all the "shack in a box" radios are built down to a price IMHO.

Over here LAM (A dealer in Barnsley) have put an order in already.


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: VE3WGO on September 02, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Looks great!  It has dual receivers ....  the display shows 2 VFOs and the Main and Sub knobs can be seen on the left of the display, like a mini-9100.  But no satellite button for VFO tracking, unless that is in a menu, and I hope it can do full duplex for satellites.  Same size as the IC-7300 so it is more portable than the big IC-9100.

73, Ed VE3WGO



Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: G8KHS on September 03, 2017, 01:26:27 AM
Looks very good, I hope they pay attention to giving it cleaner ssb transmit performance at least as good as my old TS700 or the IC-275.
Go on Icom, you can can do it..!


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: N4UE on September 03, 2017, 11:26:56 AM
Hi. I KNEW they could do it. If they can make a 706g and 7000, that go from 1.8 to 432MHz, back 'in the day'......
I bought the 706g and the 756PRO both when they were first announced (on different) trips to Toyko.
I was told by several, if I wanted a DC-Daylight radio to get a 9100.
Sorry, but once you use a 'fish finder', it's difficult to go back. ha ha

I enjoy my 7300 but want a larger format. Since the 9700 is based on the 7300, it could easily replace my 271 and 471.
And yes, I do have (and enjoy) all my other brands/models........

ron
N4UE

hamming for 56 years


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: AF5CC on September 04, 2017, 09:56:57 PM
Will 1.2ghz come standard with the radio, or will it be an optional module?

73 John AF5CC


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: G8YMW on September 05, 2017, 02:03:26 AM
I believe it is standard, might be wrong


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: W4KYR on September 05, 2017, 05:47:04 AM
So does this come with 220 MHz ? Or will Icom (like all the other manufacturers) continue to 'forget' that this band exists?

Sure they make 220 Mhz FM HT's, but what about SSB/CW rigs ? No manufacturer produce an SSB/CW 220 mhz? You mean to tell me that the North American market isn't big enough to include 220 mhz in these multi-band, multi-mode radios? 70 Mhz is not a ham band here in the U.S. but yet there are multi mode rigs that over 70 Mhz, so why is 220 Mhz excluded?


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: G8YMW on September 05, 2017, 06:06:24 AM
Probably because 70MHz is close enough to 50MHz so a tweak of the low pass filters and the VFO isn't too big a job?
Just guessing


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: AC7CW on September 05, 2017, 01:13:56 PM
So does this come with 220 MHz ? Or will Icom (like all the other manufacturers) continue to 'forget' that this band exists?

Sure they make 220 Mhz FM HT's, but what about SSB/CW rigs ? No manufacturer produce an SSB/CW 220 mhz? You mean to tell me that the North American market isn't big enough to include 220 mhz in these multi-band, multi-mode radios? 70 Mhz is not a ham band here in the U.S. but yet there are multi mode rigs that over 70 Mhz, so why is 220 Mhz excluded?

Some Chinese quad band rigs have 220


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: VE3WGO on September 06, 2017, 08:08:49 AM
There is a Ethernet (RJ-45) connector on the rear panel of the IC-9700 prototype under the 2M "UHF" antenna connector, according to the early photos we see and it is called "LAN" on the connector field label. 

That's a relatively new thing to see on commercially made ham radios, and usually only on high end models such as IC-7700, IC-7850/1, IC-7610, Kenwood TS-990S, Yaesu FTDX-9000, and all Flex-6x00 models.   Other than those particular radios, it seems pretty rare, even now. We see USB almost every new radio, but Ethernet LAN is still rare.  Elecraft K3S uses RJ-45 for Rs-232  >:(

I guess remote operation capability may be what Icom has in mind?

73, Ed VE3WGO



Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: GM1FLQ on September 06, 2017, 11:32:06 AM

............all the dummies who dislike the IC-7300 because they don't know what an RF Gain control or Attenuator does. ..........

                (https://media.tenor.com/images/00d6c3829e9192924b15a458dc4cc14d/tenor.gif)

                                                                                                                                     ..................... ;D


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: VE3WGO on September 07, 2017, 06:08:04 PM
according to this report (which may only be speculative), the IC-9700 with two receivers will be able to operate in satellite mode.  I would assume that means full duplex satellite.

http://www.fbnews.jp/201709/news04/news_en.pdf

73, Ed VE3WGO


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: N4UE on September 09, 2017, 12:47:21 PM
Hi Ed. Here in the USA, DXEngineering is already taking pre-orders. Initially, it was listed as
HF+6M, 2, 432, 1296.
They were quickly corrected.

73

ron
N4UE


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: N6YFM on September 10, 2017, 09:45:36 PM
So does this come with 220 MHz ? Or will Icom (like all the other manufacturers) continue to 'forget' that this band exists?

Sure they make 220 Mhz FM HT's, but what about SSB/CW rigs ? No manufacturer produce an SSB/CW 220 mhz? You mean to tell me that the North American market isn't big enough to include 220 mhz in these multi-band, multi-mode radios? 70 Mhz is not a ham band here in the U.S. but yet there are multi mode rigs that over 70 Mhz, so why is 220 Mhz excluded?

Some Chinese quad band rigs have 220

Can you share any model numbers that have 220?


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: AF5CC on September 10, 2017, 10:58:42 PM
Can you share any model numbers that have 220?

For 222 SSB/CW there is the Icom 375.  The Yaesu FT736 also does 222mhz SSB/CW/FM if it has an optional module installed.


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: GM1FLQ on September 11, 2017, 03:59:36 AM
Hi Ed. Here in the USA, DXEngineering is already taking pre-orders..........

73

ron
N4UE

   (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nXkCZ2GjcoM/Uuqg7TYzREI/AAAAAAAANWg/2JrPa3_ZNX4/s1600/Forward-obama-socialism-cliff-lemmings.jpg)

  .......... ;D


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: G8YMW on September 11, 2017, 09:46:06 AM
Hi Ed. Here in the USA, DXEngineering is already taking pre-orders..........

73

ron
N4UE

   (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nXkCZ2GjcoM/Uuqg7TYzREI/AAAAAAAANWg/2JrPa3_ZNX4/s1600/Forward-obama-socialism-cliff-lemmings.jpg)

  .......... ;D

???
DX Engineering are slacking.
Lammie beat them.
Anyway the hard work has already been done in the IC7300


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: AC7CW on September 11, 2017, 02:16:12 PM
So does this come with 220 MHz ? Or will Icom (like all the other manufacturers) continue to 'forget' that this band exists?

Sure they make 220 Mhz FM HT's, but what about SSB/CW rigs ? No manufacturer produce an SSB/CW 220 mhz? You mean to tell me that the North American market isn't big enough to include 220 mhz in these multi-band, multi-mode radios? 70 Mhz is not a ham band here in the U.S. but yet there are multi mode rigs that over 70 Mhz, so why is 220 Mhz excluded?

Radioddity QB25
QYT KT-7900D

Some Chinese quad band rigs have 220

Can you share any model numbers that have 220?


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: GM1FLQ on September 12, 2017, 12:22:13 AM
   (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nXkCZ2GjcoM/Uuqg7TYzREI/AAAAAAAANWg/2JrPa3_ZNX4/s1600/Forward-obama-socialism-cliff-lemmings.jpg)

 
      ???

............it' a demonstration by the "cutting edger" club on how to take up the pre-order offer  ;D.........


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: N0YXB on September 13, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
Here in the USA, DXEngineering is already taking pre-orders.

73

ron
N4UE

Way to go Icom. At this rate it looks like my shack will have at least one Icom rig, maybe two.   :)


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: K0UA on September 15, 2017, 07:32:11 AM
These should sell like hotcakes to hungry hams.  If anyone doubts that Icom has become the industry innovator and leader, well they have no eyes. The thing that I fear is that many of the  competitors, will disappear.  And that will not be a good thing.


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: N0YXB on September 15, 2017, 09:12:13 AM
Indeed, good for Icom. And it's definitely in our best interests that the other manufacturers innovate and thrive as well.


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: VE3WGO on September 15, 2017, 07:29:28 PM
if the ic-9700 will also be satellite capable (ie full duplex like the ic-9100, ts-2000, and the older ic-910, ft-847, etc), it will be easier for me to decide to get one.

73, Ed VE3WGO


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: AA2UK on September 16, 2017, 11:05:20 AM
It doesn't look like it covers 6 meters either, I hope I'm wrong.
Bill AA2UK


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: G8YMW on September 16, 2017, 12:43:02 PM
No it does not cover 6.
Most HF rigs nowadays have 6 already.


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: GM1FLQ on September 16, 2017, 12:43:56 PM
These should sell like hotcakes to hungry hams.  If anyone doubts that Icom has become the industry innovator and leader, well they have no eyes. The thing that I fear is that many of the  competitors, will disappear.  And that will not be a good thing.

Wasting your breath, they can't/don't want to see any further than the end of their nose.......and when the market goes all pete tong they'll, of course, be the first to start crying like babies.


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: K0UA on September 16, 2017, 01:52:05 PM
This radio will really upset 'ole FLQ who hates anything newer than his stump trained sheep. ha ha

Plus, all the dummies who dislike the IC-7300 because they don't know what an RF Gain control or Attenuator does. "too much gain", etc. SMH
Really sad to see the dumbing down of Amateur Radio.....

This radio will be yet ANOTHER game change for Icom.......

ron
N4UE

Agreed.  I see another big winner here.   Yes, the folks that give the 7300 a black eye that run preamp 2 on the lower bands and wonder why it overloads.  (shakes head). 


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: AA2UK on September 28, 2017, 01:52:52 PM
Can you share any model numbers that have 220?

For 222 SSB/CW there is the Icom 375.  The Yaesu FT736 also does 222mhz SSB/CW/FM if it has an optional module installed.
Yes I'm still a hold out using the Yaesu FT736R on 222 and the other bands they cover. I still have 2 of them and spare modules for 6 meters, 222MHz and 1296Mhz.
The ICOM IC375 are  rare as Hen's teeth...
Bill, AA2UK


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: N3OP on October 07, 2017, 12:45:13 PM
Hi Ed. Here in the USA, DXEngineering is already taking pre-orders. Initially, it was listed as
HF+6M, 2, 432, 1296.
They were quickly corrected.

73

ron
N4UE

Too bad it will not include HF and DSTAR.  It would have been a good replacement for the IC-9100.


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: G8YMW on October 07, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
Hi Ed. Here in the USA, DXEngineering is already taking pre-orders. Initially, it was listed as
HF+6M, 2, 432, 1296.
They were quickly corrected.

73

ron
N4UE

Too bad it will not include HF and DSTAR.  It would have been a good replacement for the IC-9100.

Actually it WILL have D Star.
Personally I cannot see a need for HF +6 (and 4 this side of The Atlantic) on it when there is the 7300.
The 9100 is a 7600 and updated 910 in one box and for me, too expensive.
HOWEVER I am in the market for a 3rd generation 910 based on 7300 underpinnings


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: N3OP on October 09, 2017, 05:17:43 AM
I would prefer to have one radio with these features.  If the IC-9700 will not include HF+6, it would be nice to have C4FM and DMR in addition to DSTAR.  I know that will not happen because the because the designers of these modes will not license their to the other competing companies, so the user (us) gave to buy three radios if we want to work these modes.  It would be like buying 3 HF because one had SSB, one had AM, and the third had digital.  Hopefully these companies get together and license these modes to other companies.


Title: RE: Like VHF/UHF? Check out the new Icom IC-9700
Post by: VE3WGO on October 09, 2017, 06:30:41 AM
In the photos of the IC-9700 prototype, there are rear panel connectors for LAN, Data, and USB.  Of course, those might just be suggestions at this point since it is still early.

We can only hope that at least one of those ports will include a datastream for some kind of IF or baseband input/output data format that permits the owner to connect an external modem or processor for other modes (C4FM, DMR, etc) in addition to the ones Icom decides to include internally (the word-D-Star is printed below the touch screen).  Then the 9700 could become the central hub for an all-mode V/UHF and Satellite station.  And I guess transverters for other bands would need to go to the existing 3 band antenna connectors instead a low level signal interface, since no Transverter connector seems to be present on the prototype (although the new IC-7610 does include such a Transverter connector).

73, Ed VE3WGO