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Title: Firefox Changes
Post by: DL8OV on September 08, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
Those of you who use the Firefox browser need to know that changes are coming. In November Mozilla will introduce a new version of the browser and most if not all of your browser extensions will no longer work. These extensions include Adblock Plus and Classic Theme Restorer.

There is hope though. This afternoon I ported all my Bookmarks over to 'Pale Moon' which is a browser forked from an earlier version of Firefox. It's a slightly simpler interface BUT the browser runs like lightning!! I've never seen a browser run so fast.

So, if you are worried about the Firefox / Mozilla changes then give Pale Moon a try. Versions are available for Linux, MS Windows and Apple Mac.

http://www.palemoon.org/

Peter DL8OV


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: W8JX on September 08, 2017, 02:19:09 PM
Those of you who use the Firefox browser need to know that changes are coming. In November Mozilla will introduce a new version of the browser and most if not all of your browser extensions will no longer work. These extensions iinclude Adblock Plus and Classic Theme Restorer.

If you use FireFox Beta (called Nightly) you would of known this about three months ago as the Beta had dropped support for them back then. The Beta version is typically 4 to 6 month ahead of desktop version is release version number... 


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: N0YXB on September 08, 2017, 02:29:16 PM
Obviously not everyone uses Firefox Beta, so thank you Peter...


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KI7LGC on September 08, 2017, 03:14:34 PM
Anyone wanting to keep the current Firefox can use their Extended Support Release.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

Mozilla patches the ESR with security patches and fixes, but does not change any features. It's designed for businesses who need a stable web browser environment, but is available to everyone.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: N1UKX on September 08, 2017, 03:39:13 PM
Why would you assume the common, everyday computer user would be using a beta version of anything?????


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: W8JX on September 08, 2017, 04:01:40 PM
Anyone wanting to keep the current Firefox can use their Extended Support Release.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

Mozilla patches the ESR with security patches and fixes, but does not change any features. It's designed for businesses who need a stable web browser environment, but is available to everyone.

Actually it is meant for use on older operation systems like XP, Vista and 7 which is what some business may still use.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 08, 2017, 05:23:02 PM
Those of you who use the Firefox browser need to know that changes are coming. In November Mozilla will introduce a new version of the browser and most if not all of your browser extensions will no longer work. These extensions include Adblock Plus and Classic Theme Restorer.

There is hope though. This afternoon I ported all my Bookmarks over to 'Pale Moon' which is a browser forked from an earlier version of Firefox. It's a slightly simpler interface BUT the browser runs like lightning!! I've never seen a browser run so fast.

So, if you are worried about the Firefox / Mozilla changes then give Pale Moon a try. Versions are available for Linux, MS Windows and Apple Mac.

http://www.palemoon.org/

Peter DL8OV

I installed the nightly beta a couple of weeks ago, and 'learned' about these changes.

I'll give Pale Moon a try.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 08, 2017, 05:47:42 PM
... browser extensions will no longer work.
I got off the upgrade treadmill many years ago because I use extensions that I want to continue to be functional. I have never heard of the Pale Moon browser and will look into it. Thanks for sharing.




Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 08, 2017, 06:34:15 PM
I'll give Pale Moon a try.

Installed Pale Moon. Good first impression.

While on the subject of browsers, I tried Opera again, after many years. This is the fastest browser I've seen to date. Give it a try.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 08, 2017, 06:40:18 PM
Wow! noscript, ublock and more. This looks like a keeper!


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 08, 2017, 07:00:33 PM
... I tried Opera again, after many years. This is the fastest browser I've seen to date. Give it a try.
Meh. Good browser that lacks the extension library that is available to this Pale Moon.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 08, 2017, 07:20:28 PM
... I tried Opera again, after many years. This is the fastest browser I've seen to date. Give it a try.
Meh. Good browser that lacks the extension library that is available to this Pale Moon.


The extension library is there. Lots of stuff that I tried/used under Firefox. AdBlock is built-in.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 08, 2017, 08:47:33 PM
... The extension library is there. Lots of stuff that I tried/used under Firefox. AdBlock is built-in.
Nada. You obviously have not used uBlock or noscript.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 09, 2017, 05:02:53 AM
... The extension library is there. Lots of stuff that I tried/used under Firefox. AdBlock is built-in.
Nada. You obviously have not used uBlock or noscript.


I do use uBlock, and I did use noscript, and they are both there.

Never mind... use whatever does the job for you. Sorry for causing so much confusion.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KI7LGC on September 09, 2017, 09:33:02 AM
Anyone wanting to keep the current Firefox can use their Extended Support Release.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

Mozilla patches the ESR with security patches and fixes, but does not change any features. It's designed for businesses who need a stable web browser environment, but is available to everyone.

Actually it is meant for use on older operation systems like XP, Vista and 7 which is what some business may still use.

That is one use for it. I use it at work all the time for people who have websites that weren't designed for the newer browsers. It runs fine on the newer operating systems. Either way, it will still work as I have suggested.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 09, 2017, 10:00:16 AM
I do use uBlock, and I did use noscript, and they are both there. Never mind... use whatever does the job for you. Sorry for causing so much confusion.
I stand corrected ... and there was no confusion caused by your side. I have uBlock installed on Opera and had forgotten that it was even there. I does not operate the same as on Firefox or Pale Moon ... as in not as good as. If I cannot right click on an object and uBlock it, it is a neutered extension. As for NoScript, I couldn't find it last time I looked because they put a hyphen in their name. It operates a little different but seems to be OK. There are other extensions that I require that were not found in the Opera library. Looks like I have to revisit that again for things like name changes.

There is also a smaller memory impact with Pale Moon as compared to others. This is more significant for systems that don't have 8 Gb. of memory installed.

I didn't start this thread but I appreciated your input. Its only been a few hours since installation but it will take a few weeks of operation before a final verdict is in. As it stands now, the Pale Moon w/uBlock/noscript vs Opera w/uBlock/no-script has Pale Moon out front.  



Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: AC7CW on September 10, 2017, 11:25:27 AM
I like my Chrome browser because of addons: I can select text and with a right click use the context search, I can select an address and with a right click send it to google maps... I couldn't find those addons for Firefox. Things arbitrarily change with Chrome every so often without any advance warning. I think that is a reflection of the self assessed superiority of the introverts that Google has been hiring over the years.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K2CD on September 10, 2017, 07:43:40 PM

There is hope though. This afternoon I ported all my Bookmarks over to 'Pale Moon' which is a browser forked from an earlier version of Firefox. It's a slightly simpler interface BUT the browser runs like lightning!! I've never seen a browser run so fast.

So, if you are worried about the Firefox / Mozilla changes then give Pale Moon a try.

Wow.  This is good stuff!  Very fast indeed.  Thanks for the heads up, Peter. 

73,
Mike, K2CD


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KI7PLD on September 10, 2017, 08:54:20 PM
The earlier versions of Firefox had memory management problems.

Has Pale Moon addressed those issues?

I currently have 23 tabs open in this browser.
I have a second browser running with 19 tabs open, all different sites.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 10, 2017, 09:13:35 PM
... Has Pale Moon addressed those issues?
Don't know yet, working towards that. No complaints yet. Worthy of downloading and starting your own tests.



Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: DL8OV on September 11, 2017, 05:20:25 AM
For me there do not seem to be any memory issues. When I check for new technical blogs on YouTube I open 26 tabs at once, with Firefox this slowed things down to a crawl but with pale Moon I begin to see titles on the tabs about a second after I start.

Peter DL8OV


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K4HB on September 14, 2017, 07:36:12 AM
I currently have FireFox 55.0.3. (64 bit) I've been disappointed for a while now with it's speed. On pages where you type or scroll, it lags. I also have IE and Chrome installed, and those browsers don't have this problem. I use FF as default because of Adblock Plus, and use Chrome when I know I'll be on a page where FF normally lags way behind. I've downloaded Pale Moon install, but don't know if to install the 32 bit or 64 bit version. My system is Windows 10 64 bit, but a notice said that the 64 bit version of Pale Moon may not be compatible with some plug ins. So what about Adblock Latitude? As anyone tried this add on with Pale Moon 64 bit?


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: DL8OV on September 14, 2017, 10:36:39 AM
If you're running 64-bit MS Windows then you will need to run the 64-bit version of Pale Moon, not doing so will add an extra layer of complexity to everything and possibly slow things down a bit. Adblock Latitude works just fine, I'm running it on my install right now with zero problems.

Peter DL8OV


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K5WLR on September 14, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
I tried running both 32 and 64 bit versions of Pale Moon but could not get N0HR's Propagation App to run on either version, so went back to Firefox. Any ideas why?  ???

Will Rogers
K5WLR


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 14, 2017, 11:31:59 AM
Those using the Adblock extension anywhere need to be aware that all is not what it seems;
https://www.wired.com/2016/03/heres-how-that-adblocker-youre-using-makes-money/ (https://www.wired.com/2016/03/heres-how-that-adblocker-youre-using-makes-money/)

Regarding running 32bit apps/extensions on a 64bit system ... if you want legacy applications/extensions to run you run a 32bit app to run them. What good is running the 64bit app if there are known problems with it running 32bit apps? We are still in a transition stage from 32bit to 64bit.





Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K4HB on September 14, 2017, 11:57:39 AM
Thanks Peter, DL8OV. I'm using Pale Moon 64 bit now, and Adblock Latitude is doing it's job. :)

I find PM similar to FireFox, but it's running much faster. After customizing and giving it a good test drive, I may set it as my default browser.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 14, 2017, 05:31:24 PM
I've downloaded Pale Moon install, but don't know if to install the 32 bit or 64 bit version. My system is Windows 10 64 bit, but a notice said that the 64 bit version of Pale Moon may not be compatible with some plug ins.

I still cannot see any advantage in running 64 bits, quite the contrary. I'm switching back to 32 bits, even though my Win10 installation is 64 bits. YMMV


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 14, 2017, 05:33:41 PM
I tried running both 32 and 64 bit versions of Pale Moon but could not get N0HR's Propagation App to run on either version, so went back to Firefox. Any ideas why?  ???

Will Rogers
K5WLR

I've only one issue with Pale Moon so far. It does seem to be very picky with HTTPS pages. Still trying to figure out why. Opera has no problems with the same pages.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 14, 2017, 05:35:30 PM
Thanks Peter, DL8OV. I'm using Pale Moon 64 bit now, and Adblock Latitude is doing it's job. :)

Try uBlock Origin. I used AdBlock for a long time, but switched, and like uBlock better.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K4HB on September 15, 2017, 08:25:28 AM
32 bit vs 64 bit Pale Moon? This is from Moonchild, the founder...

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2516 (https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2516)



Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 15, 2017, 08:36:11 AM
32 bit vs 64 bit Pale Moon? This is from Moonchild, the founder...

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2516 (https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2516)



Good advice, and confirms what I found empirically, a.k.a., try and error. 32 bit it is for me. ;D
I'll go one step further, if for any reason the OS needs to be reinstalled, it'll be the 32 bit version. This is the first time I use a 64 bit OS on my desktop. It was pre-installed, as it's a brand name PC, and I left it that way. I used to be build my own desktops, and always used the 32 bit version of Windows.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K4HB on September 15, 2017, 09:59:01 AM
I've only one issue with Pale Moon so far. It does seem to be very picky with HTTPS pages. Still trying to figure out why. Opera has no problems with the same pages.

Had to make several attempts to finally load my bank account, and the same for a credit card account. These sites seemed to have a problem verifying the browser, so it may not be very compatible with highly secure sites. For now, I'm keeping Firefox for those accounts and Pale Moon for frolicking around on the internet. (Like I'm doing now)


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K4HB on September 15, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Had to make several attempts to finally load my bank account, and the same for a credit card account. These sites seemed to have a problem verifying the browser, so it may not be very compatible with highly secure sites. For now, I'm keeping Firefox for those accounts and Pale Moon for frolicking around on the internet. (Like I'm doing now)

My bad, should have tried those sites with Firefox before posting. They are now loading very well with Pale Moon. Must have had a server problem or a problem with the connection.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 15, 2017, 02:13:14 PM
My bad, should have tried those sites with Firefox before posting. They are now loading very well with Pale Moon. Must have had a server problem or a problem with the connection.

No change for me. I don't have Firefox installed anymore, but it worked fine when I did. Opera works fine, but Pale Moon is still no go.

As you said, not a problem, as long as there is an alternative browser when needed.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KG7WBW on September 30, 2017, 02:34:38 PM
I'm not certain that the new update will do a better job than uOrigin combined with NoScript. I guess this is where a Raspberry Pi running Pi Hole would come into play...

-Jade Shain
KG7WBW


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KLONDIKEMIKE on September 30, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
Review so far after a few weeks; not much better than my old version of Firefox.

Stalling, unresponsive scripts. Same problems experienced with Firefox. I think memory utilization is a little better. eBay and Google sites seem to be main culprits for me. Caused by uBlock and noScript? I'm sure what they do initiate the problem. uBlock and noScript work well here.

I have also experienced problems with PDF printing. Using a older version of Nitro PDF printer at least provides somewhat reliable printing. doPDF v7 locks up when trying to rename the file. doPDF v8, don't even bother with this new, bloated pig version.

A worthwhile upgrade from my old version of Firefox but still could be better.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on September 30, 2017, 04:58:07 PM
Pale Moon is history here. I went back to Firefox last week..


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KC8Y on October 10, 2017, 04:44:59 PM
I use firefox all-the-time; ands I like it :)

Ken KC8Y


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VK6IS on October 10, 2017, 07:33:13 PM
well, I've had few issues, when compared to some folks,
as I've only a couple of add-ons in use.

but, the one issue, is that log-in history:
- when you log into some site, say eham, there is several log-in names,
and you have to pick the right one, to use.

now, on the older version of Firefox, you could highlight, with the mouse,
one of those log-in names & hit the delete button & it was gone from that list.

currently, the only way. it seems, is to erase that entire list, via Clear All History !.
this is a nuisance, when compared to the older versions of Firefox.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K6UJ on November 21, 2017, 07:25:37 PM
OK,  you guys have me curious.  I am using 64 bit Firefox Quantum on my mac.  It works fine but I am curious if Pale Moon would be worth trying or just be happy. It sounds like from your descriptions Pale Moon is super fast  ;)

Bob
K6UJ


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 21, 2017, 07:42:48 PM
OK,  you guys have me curious.  I am using 64 bit Firefox Quantum on my mac.  It works fine but I am curious if Pale Moon would be worth trying or just be happy. It sounds like from your descriptions Pale Moon is super fast  ;)

Bob
K6UJ

I see there is a new version. I'll give it another try. It was fast, but picky with HTTPS pages.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K5UNX on November 22, 2017, 05:44:19 AM
OK,  you guys have me curious.  I am using 64 bit Firefox Quantum on my mac.  It works fine but I am curious if Pale Moon would be worth trying or just be happy. It sounds like from your descriptions Pale Moon is super fast  ;)

Bob
K6UJ

Definitely try Quantum for a while. It’s really fast. FF on one of my Linux installs updated to quantum and I like it a lot.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 22, 2017, 05:46:53 AM
OK,  you guys have me curious.  I am using 64 bit Firefox Quantum on my mac.  It works fine but I am curious if Pale Moon would be worth trying or just be happy. It sounds like from your descriptions Pale Moon is super fast  ;)

Bob
K6UJ

Definitely try Quantum for a while. It’s really fast. FF on one of my Linux installs updated to quantum and I like it a lot.

That's the version I went back to, albeit the developers edition, very good.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 22, 2017, 05:27:31 PM
I see there is a new version. I'll give it another try. It was fast, but picky with HTTPS pages.

Pale Moon: HTTPS seems to be working ok now. I installed the 32 bits version on a Win 10 64 bits.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 23, 2017, 04:19:43 PM
I see there is a new version. I'll give it another try. It was fast, but picky with HTTPS pages.

Pale Moon: HTTPS seems to be working ok now. I installed the 32 bits version on a Win 10 64 bits.

Still kind of unstable. Sticking with Firefox Developer Edition 58.0b5


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: W3HKK on November 23, 2017, 05:55:33 PM
Spotted your post today which coincidentally is the day I dumped IE on my w7 machine and decided to try  Firefox II.

I had been having a series of problems I couldnt explain or resolve with various ham websites like RBN,  that I had used in the past but suddenly werent working for me ( with IE.)

I also couldnt install Adblock for IE  which I had used before, then deleted to see if it was causing  my problems.  It wasnt.

But now with  Foxfire II I find everything is miraculously working.   Including Adblock.
So I am again a happy camper. 


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: AC7CW on November 25, 2017, 12:49:00 PM
I just did a speed comparison of Chrome vs Firefox 57. After clearing all history and settings on both, Chrome takes 6 seconds to load eham.com and Firefox takes 4 seconds. I like Firefox for the first time ever...


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 26, 2017, 10:34:47 AM
I just did a speed comparison of Chrome vs Firefox 57. After clearing all history and settings on both, Chrome takes 6 seconds to load eham.com and Firefox takes 4 seconds. I like Firefox for the first time ever...

If you want to make it even faster, try SpeedyFox to 'fine tune' it.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: W0DLM on November 28, 2017, 07:30:54 AM
There are things about the newest version of Firefox that I like. The speed being one. But I absolutely HATE the way they changed the Bookmarks access!


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 28, 2017, 07:33:40 AM
There are things about the newest version of Firefox that I like. The speed being one. But I absolutely HATE the way they changed the Bookmarks access!

That's interesting. There are other good browsers out there, but Firefox is the only one that handles bookmarks the way I like it. :)


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: W0DLM on November 28, 2017, 11:08:29 AM
"That's interesting. There are other good browsers out there, but Firefox is the only one that handles bookmarks the way I like it."

I did too. Until the latest upgrade to version 57, when they COMPLETELY changed it!


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 28, 2017, 11:24:12 AM
"That's interesting. There are other good browsers out there, but Firefox is the only one that handles bookmarks the way I like it."

I did too. Until the latest upgrade to version 57, when they COMPLETELY changed it!

Other than defaulting to another location when bookmarking a page, I did not notice any major change. I'm running the Developer Edition on my desktop. I'll check the laptop later, it has the standard edition.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: G8YMW on November 30, 2017, 01:55:05 PM
They DID change it.
They removed the bookmarks icon off the window.
I had to root through "Customise" to get it back.
My system is Linux Mint 18.2 Mate
I run with the absolute minimum toolbars/ un-necessary guff so as to get as much as possible on the screen


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 30, 2017, 02:00:30 PM
They DID change it.
They removed the bookmarks icon off the window.
I had to root through "Customise" to get it back.
My system is Linux Mint 18.2 Mate
I run with the absolute minimum toolbars/ un-necessary guff so as to get as much as possible on the screen

OK...I never relied on the icons. I prefer to use the menu bar.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K5WLR on November 30, 2017, 04:09:21 PM
One thing I miss is Propfire. I miss seeing the current solar WX on my browser. Apparently the author needs to make some changes before Propfire will be allowed to run.

Will Rogers
K5WLR


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on November 30, 2017, 04:42:19 PM
One thing I miss is Propfire. I miss seeing the current solar WX on my browser. Apparently the author needs to make some changes before Propfire will be allowed to run.

Will Rogers
K5WLR

Not the same, I know, but I use Solar Data, available at:

http://k9dur.info/misc_utilities.html

I also like UTC Clock, also there.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: W0DLM on December 01, 2017, 05:51:20 AM
I had to root through "Customise" to get it back.
THANK YOU! I had not thought to look through the customize menu.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: K5WLR on December 01, 2017, 06:19:40 AM
One thing I miss is Propfire. I miss seeing the current solar WX on my browser. Apparently the author needs to make some changes before Propfire will be allowed to run.

Will Rogers
K5WLR

Not the same, I know, but I use Solar Data, available at:

http://k9dur.info/misc_utilities.html

I also like UTC Clock, also there.

Very cool. Thanks!  :)

Will Rogers
K5WLR


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KM1H on December 02, 2017, 06:31:25 PM
Quote
I just did a speed comparison of Chrome vs Firefox 57. After clearing all history and settings on both, Chrome takes 6 seconds to load eham.com and Firefox takes 4 seconds. I like Firefox for the first time ever...

Chrome takes 2 seconds here after running Defraggler earlier today; average data transfer went from 1.9K/sec to 5.9K. Dont have FF.

System is a Dell Vostro 630, Win 7 Pro 64, i5 quad core with an ancient 80 GB HD and 8 G RAM. Plan to go to a 500 GB or 1TB soon. as I only have 9 GB free space and a lot of files to transfer from a couple of XP drives.

Carl


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KM1H on December 03, 2017, 08:45:40 AM
On my sons PC which is a Defraggled Dell Optiplex 380 with a Dual Core Duo, 8 GB RAM, and a fairly new 1 TB drive it is FF 2 seconds and Chrome a tiny bit longer at about 2.2 seconds.

FF does open faster


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: KG7WBW on January 14, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
All of the important extensions (NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere, and UBlock Origin) for Firefox 57 have been updated.

73!

KG7WBW
Jade Shain


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on January 14, 2018, 06:29:25 PM
All of the important extensions (NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere, and UBlock Origin) for Firefox 57 have been updated.

73!

KG7WBW
Jade Shain

Anybody having problems with some live streaming, not all of them, in Firefox?

The problematic ones work fine in Waterfox, a Firefox fork, and Chrome.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: AC7CW on January 27, 2018, 10:51:12 AM
My Galaxy S 10.5" tablet has been very laggy and slow in recent weeks. Today I couldn't handle it anymore so I looked at rolling back android, getting a new tablet, etc then I compared all the browsers. Opera Mini works just quite well. Problems gone... The problems were with Chrome and Firefox. I tried Opera on my laptop just now and it's faster by a noticeable margin. It doesn't work well on my Edge 7 phone but whatever... Firefox always seemed to offer far more than it delivered and now that Chrome is too big to fail, and probably all those introverty geniuses at Alphabet don't want to halt their careers with the title of sustaining engineer, it won't ever catch up to the little guys.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: VA3VF on January 27, 2018, 11:13:02 AM
My Galaxy S 10.5" tablet has been very laggy and slow in recent weeks. Today I couldn't handle it anymore so I looked at rolling back android, getting a new tablet, etc then I compared all the browsers. Opera Mini works just quite well. Problems gone... The problems were with Chrome and Firefox. I tried Opera on my laptop just now and it's faster by a noticeable margin. It doesn't work well on my Edge 7 phone but whatever... Firefox always seemed to offer far more than it delivered and now that Chrome is too big to fail, and probably all those introverty geniuses at Alphabet don't want to halt their careers with the title of sustaining engineer, it won't ever catch up to the little guys.

Sounds like we are on the same wavelength.  ;D

I installed Opera on my PC last Wednesday. Very pleased so far. No problems with streaming, and very fast. The fastest of all the browsers I tried.

The very nice feature that others don't have, is the free unlimited VPN built-in. I have been streaming HD video to test, and it works perfectly.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: AC7CW on January 27, 2018, 07:54:26 PM
I forgot about the VPN! I asked Google "what's my ip address" and for the first time it's in the IPv6 format, crazy... Those other browsers had me convinced that my tablet, wonderful in it's own right, was hopelessly out of date...


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: G4LJW on February 05, 2018, 04:58:30 AM
Another browser option to consider is Vivaldi:

https://vivaldi.com

Cheers,

Jon.


Title: RE: Firefox Changes
Post by: AC7CW on February 07, 2018, 01:31:23 PM
Back to Chrome... It integrates with my password manager best of all the few browsers that do that at all