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Title: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KE4ILG on November 05, 2017, 02:56:22 PM
My call sign is KE4ILG and I have lost my original license and can't recall when I was first licensed. 

After a google search and a look at my FCC page I can't find a way to look for the date.  Any suggestions?? Thanks and 73, Mike


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: K6AER on November 05, 2017, 04:30:05 PM
You have no idea what year?


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: NO2A on November 05, 2017, 04:43:34 PM
Or how old you were at the time.


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KE4ILG on November 05, 2017, 05:21:57 PM
It was in the later 90's and some long term medical issues, kidney disease, I have forgotten some things.  I believe it was 94-96 but again I am not certain and have been unable to locate any of the old paperwork including my original license. 

I was about 40 years old and a Gysgt in the US Marines. 

And if you think its difficult for someone to forget things do not spend 2 months in a hospital because of internal bleeding as a result of the treatment for kidney disease. 

So If you have an idea as to where such a record could be found please let me know.  It's not a big deal its just one of the things I forgot and want to be reminded of.   73, Mike


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: W6IR on November 05, 2017, 05:30:56 PM
Does Feb 94 ring a bell? Based on your current expiration date that would be a good guess.


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KE4ILG on November 05, 2017, 05:56:51 PM
Feb 94 would be likely as not.  I assumed you backed up from my license expiration date, that seems logical.  I should have thought of that but I did not.  Thanks for the help I'm thinking that's as close as I will be getting without finding my original paperwork. 

Originally I got my Tech then Tech Plus about 10 months later and then General about one year after having gotten my Tech.  In those days Tech Plus required 5 wpm as did the Novice ticket. 

I was able to get on HF with the Tech Plus  and in a short time was able to pass the General including the 13 wpm exam.  Funny I remember these things and my feeling of my first few CW QSO'S but not the date of my first exam.  Thanks and 73, Mike


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KZ1X on November 05, 2017, 06:05:33 PM
My call sign is KE4ILG and I have lost my original license and can't recall when I was first licensed. 

After a google search and a look at my FCC page I can't find a way to look for the date.  Any suggestions?? Thanks and 73, Mike

It was after 1993:

https://www.qrz.com/db1993/?callsign=ke4ilg (https://www.qrz.com/db1993/?callsign=ke4ilg)


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KE4ILG on November 05, 2017, 07:39:23 PM
Thanks that is a search I was unaware of.  73, Mike


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KOP on November 06, 2017, 12:00:44 AM
https://archive.org/stream/1993_Radio_Amateur_Callbook/1993_Radio_Amateur_Callbook_District_4#page/n108/mode/1up/search/KE4ILG (https://archive.org/stream/1993_Radio_Amateur_Callbook/1993_Radio_Amateur_Callbook_District_4#page/n108/mode/1up/search/KE4ILG)
Try page 448  ;D


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: W6RZ on November 06, 2017, 12:34:04 AM
You were licensed on 12/21/1993.

http://www.silentkeyhq.com

On the left hand side, under "Tools", click on "Research Hams". A new tab will open (at least on Firefox). Then enter your call on the right under "CALL SIGN".


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KE4ILG on November 06, 2017, 04:38:42 AM
W6RZ Ron, you the man.  That is the answer to my question and perhaps others as well.  Thank you so much for sharing.  73, Mike ke4ilg


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KS2G on November 06, 2017, 01:37:37 PM


http://www.silentkeyhq.com

On the left hand side, under "Tools", click on "Research Hams". A new tab will open (at least on Firefox). Then enter your call on the right under "CALL SIGN".

Nice resource, but it goes back only so far.

For example:

It shows the history of my current call sign (KS2G) with the correct initial issue date in 1981.

But for my previous call sign (WA2SEL) that was issued in 1977 it shows that same 1981 date with a note that it was issued at some --unspecified-- earlier date.


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: W6RZ on November 06, 2017, 05:14:15 PM

Nice resource, but it goes back only so far.

For example:

It shows the history of my current call sign (KS2G) with the correct initial issue date in 1981.

But for my previous call sign (WA2SEL) that was issued in 1977 it shows that same 1981 date with a note that it was issued at some --unspecified-- earlier date.

Yeah, it's not perfect. On my history, there's lots of missing info. I moved around a few times before 1985 and I was a General class for a few weeks in 1992 before I took the Advanced class test. None of that shows up.

Not realizing I would become more nostalgic later on, I didn't make a copy of my Novice license when I upgraded to Technician at the San Francisco FCC office.  I just turned in my original. Doh!

Same thing when I upgraded to General. Since I had a pre-1987 Technician license, I didn't have to take the written exam. But I used an original license to prove it with. Doh again!


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: N6QWP on November 25, 2017, 01:59:57 PM
I suffed from the same issues of "Old Timers".  I too was trying to research my old calls from back in the 60's and finally found a gent who is a fellow ham and was able to provide not only the information that I was seeking.....but the very rare original callbooks for the year of first licensing!

Understand....he has a fortune invested in collecting the old callbooks, so if you do not want one, you will probably be wasting his time=money.  BUT....if you are willing to purchase part of his almost impossible to find collection of old callbooks (priced at around $25) he will provide you with the same.

If he is unable to provide you with a copy of the callbook, he is licensed by same to provide "Official Documentation" of the information.  The cost is considerably less and also well worth his time.

It was well worth it for me to acquire the information......and then get a copy of the original callbook for the year I was first licensed.  

Just thought that I would pass along this information......if you are not looking for a "FREEBEE".  Please don't abuse this information.  It is a RARE RESOURCE....help him to recoup part of his investment.....and be thankful that there IS someone who is keeping the archives that the FCC and the ARRL are not!

The info is available from:  TwelveVDC@aol.com

Hope this helps others in researching their long lost past.  73


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: N6QWP on November 25, 2017, 02:24:59 PM
*****CORRECTION!!!!!!*****

I just looked back in my emails and found that my previous information is just a bit wrong:  The cost of the information AND CALLBOOK came to about $31.

I BELIEVE THE DOCUMENTED PAPERWORK (If no callbook available) is around $18.

IN EITHER CASE, IF YOU ARE SEEKING INFO OLDER THAN WHAT THE FCC AND ARRL ARCHIVES HAVE.....THIS IS YOUR ONLY RESOURCE........AND WELL WORTH THE FILLING IN OF THE BLANK BRAIN CELLS!!!


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KOP on November 25, 2017, 03:06:46 PM
Again and a bit more detail. These are the callbooks available through the archive.org project.
https://archive.org/details/callbook (https://archive.org/details/callbook)


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: N3DT on November 25, 2017, 03:14:14 PM
I've managed to keep my novice licence effective date 8-9-60. I would never remember when if I didn't have it. I was still in HS at the time.


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: WW7KE on November 25, 2017, 04:15:21 PM
The Callbook sometimes had trouble getting up-to-date information (or the FCC's records were less than accurate).  For example, my original Arizona callsign, WA7ZQL, was listed in the Winter 1982 edition.  It had expired in 1979 after one license term.  The FCC had said that secondary station licenses could not be renewed when the current callsign assignment system took effect a year earlier.


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: KOP on November 25, 2017, 04:50:44 PM
My apologies for posting a link to an imperfect reference....


Title: RE: Originally licensed on ????
Post by: WW7KE on November 25, 2017, 05:19:46 PM
My apologies for posting a link to an imperfect reference....

No need at all to apologize.  The Callbook was all we had back in those days.  Putting all that data together four times a year was a big job, and they used the info they had. 

My guess is that the FCC wasn't very good at releasing licensing info for any service back then.  They certainly didn't have the capabilities they do now, not to mention that Al Gore hadn't invented the Internet yet.  Directories of broadcast stations (Broadcasting Magazine/Yearbook, the Vane Jones station guides, White's Radio Log, et al) had their share of errors as well.