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Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KD5ILF on May 03, 2000, 04:26:42 PM
My XYL passed her Tech. April the 8th.  Her new call was posted on the www.fcc.gov/wtb/uls/ site today, 3 May. That is about three and one half weeks assuming the paper work was sent to the ARRL VEC on the 10th of April. <bk>

Any body else been waiting a "bit"?


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: AC7CF on May 03, 2000, 11:31:19 PM
I passed my Extra on April 1 and my upgrade was posted on the 25th so about 3.5 weeks also.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: W5JBP on May 06, 2000, 12:16:32 PM
We got over 15,000 applications for April 15th. All the VEC's are running behind. However a lot of overtime is being put in to catch up.

Jim Haynie, W5JBP
President, ARRL


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KG6AOR on May 08, 2000, 04:36:04 PM
I was one of the 15,000 who upgraded on the 15th. I heard that some of the sites were able to link in directly such that upgrades were posted as early as the following Monday evening. Anyone know how to get hooked up with this software? Certainly would make it easier for the VEs.

Michael Toback KG6AOR


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KC5MEI on May 09, 2000, 04:40:18 PM
I upgraded to General on April 19th and still no listing in the FCC data base. K1DON upgraded on the 15th
and his upgrade hasn't been posted either. Too bad ULS didn't work out, the VEC's could have posted most of the upgrades electronically.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: N6TGK on May 10, 2000, 12:40:14 PM
I actually took the written exam in February and went to a VEC session the weekend before April 15th with my CSCE in hand.  The VECs made a copy of the CSCE and I gave them the amount requested for testing and such and they sent the CSCE and the 605 on April 17th.  The application then posted on the FCC's website on the 22nd and the license was granted on the 24th.  I got the license in the mail around the 30th as did my friend who upgraded at the same time.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: W7ZJ on May 10, 2000, 02:34:41 PM
 I passed my Extra on the 13th of Feb. The lic was issued on the on the 9th of March.  My vanity request was submitted on the 3rd of April and was granted on the 21st of April...Hope this helps but seems like 3 weeks id the rule for the FCC at this time.....73s  


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KG8BE on May 10, 2000, 08:21:09 PM
I did the April 15th paper upgrade to extra... Still havent seen the posting...


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KD5ILF on May 12, 2000, 10:05:10 AM
What VEC did you use?  How long did it take for your liscence, upgrade, or what ever to show up?  

I suspect that some of them are far more automated, organized or something.  Perhaps we can find out who is giving the fastest service and shift our future "business" their way.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KD5ILF on May 12, 2000, 10:12:26 AM
I am also on one of those 15,000 applications received by the ARRL VEC.  I upgraded to extra on the 15th so this is an issue of some importance to me.  Perhaps I am being given EXTRA time to get my HF antennas up before it arrives.   Yes, I know I don’t really have to wait.

Best regards,


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: N6VLR on May 12, 2000, 10:43:22 AM
I upgraded to Extra on April 15 through the ARRL VEC. Still no word. My uncle upgraded to General on the 15th  in Kentucky, also through the ARRL VEC.His upgrade was posted last week. Perhaps these are being processed by call areas?Or in my case I requested a new call sign, does that take longer? As to whether to shift our business to another VEC, at least I haven't been seeing a bunch of re-examinations ordered for ARRL.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: K2ADX on May 12, 2000, 11:56:38 AM
...Submitted CSCE at April 20 testing.....3 weeks and 1 day, still no posting at ULS.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: W5KAP on May 12, 2000, 11:59:29 AM
Well here it is 1 month later and still no posting of the upgrade to Extra.  In this day and age of computers, why are we still using Snail Mail to post these kinds of changes.  If we pride ourselves on being on the cutting edge of technology, we need to do a better job of utilizing that same technology.  This should have been and could have been a showcase for the use of computers to show their mettle.  All this was, in reality, was an update to an already existing database.

73 de Kenn W5KAP/AE


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: N6VLR on May 15, 2000, 09:48:11 AM
Well mine showed up Saturday on the FCC ULS. Four weeks to the day. Godd luck to those still waiting.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: WA2MHY on May 16, 2000, 12:50:58 PM
Almost 4 1/2 weeks and still no upgrade posted at FCC.  Hope that the ARRL VEC is getting it's act together.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KD5ILF on May 19, 2000, 03:45:40 PM
I was just over to the ARRL web page and they have .pdf listings of when the packages from the different test sessions "arrived" at their qth.  The story where I found the link said that on Wednesday (presumably 05/17/00) they were working on packages that arrived on May 19th.  Looks like they are digging out from under the deluge!  It also looks like it will be a WHILE yet!  The old proverb about "how do you eat an elephant" comes to mind. I don't think I'll wait for the "official" posting to start operating at my new classification.  The FCC ULS Web site is down now too!  Could it be that they are overloaded also?

73


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KD5ILF on May 19, 2000, 03:48:28 PM
My post above has an obviously wrong date!  Correction below!
<bk>
I was just over to the ARRL web page and they have .pdf listings of when the packages from the different test sessions "arrived" at their qth. The story where I found the link said that on Wednesday (presumably 05/17/00) they were working on packages that arrived on April 19th. Looks like they are digging out from under the deluge! It also looks like it will be a WHILE yet! The old proverb about "how do you eat an elephant" comes to mind. I don't think I'll wait for the "official" posting to start operating at my new classification. The FCC ULS Web site is down now too! Could it be that they are overloaded also?
73!


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: W0TLO on May 19, 2000, 11:09:04 PM
People, people!
Let's not loose sight of how far we have come!
When I got my new ticket in '94 it took over 12
(yes! 12 weeks) to get my callsign (then kc5gmm)
and then you had to wait till you got the hard
copy in the mail.
Enjoy!
de W0TLO
John


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: WA2MHY on May 21, 2000, 10:38:54 AM
Yes, But when I got my Novice in 1960; my Tech in 1962; my General in 1963; and my Advanced in 1970 (Viet Nam war in the way), it took less than 6 weeks each time to get my ticket.

The rigs have gotten a lot better since the days of my Heath DX-20 xmitr and Hallicrafters SX-25 rcvr; but the time to get your ticket has gotten worse!

Oh well.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KG4HTU on May 24, 2000, 01:08:14 AM

I really hate to do this as I'm sure it will really make some people angry, but I can't resist.

I took the tech exam on Saturday the 20th of May, and my
call was posted to ULS this morning (05/23/00)!

This was NOT the ARRL VEC who is super-backlogged I'm sure, it was the Laurel VEC.

kg4htu


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KD5ILF on May 25, 2000, 11:37:23 AM
If someone wants to be angry, let'em.  I'm not angry, just a little disappointed that it is taking so long.  I see from looking at the arrl site that they are now working on packages rx on April 24th so they are making steady progress.
 
Now, if I had to wait years and then bribe someone to "pay attention" to my application like some DX operators have had to do to get their liscences THEN I would get MAD.  

G*d, I love this country!

Besides, I still have not gotten my ant. up!


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: on May 25, 2000, 02:32:32 PM
You guys don't know how good you have it, so quit whining...what the heck did you expect after restructuring, with all of those upgrades???
When I got my first ticket in 1994, I took my exam in mid April, received my ticket on July 12th...and that was when you couldn't go on the air until you had the paper in-hand!! For those of you that are mathematically challenged, that is a TWELVE WEEK WAIT! Longest 12 weeks of my life!!!!

73!


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: K5LAD on May 26, 2000, 03:21:03 PM
I took my Extra Lite in March and turned in my papers on the 15th of April at the Joplin Hamfest.  My wife traded her 1968 Tech Plus for a General on the same day.  Although they have not shown up on the QRZ.COM list, the FCC posted both of ours to the upgrade status sometime between yesterday and this morning (5/26).


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: W6EZ on May 27, 2000, 01:58:56 PM
My XLY submitted her paper  work on April 15.
Now we are six weeks past that date and she is still waiting.
I found out that the VEC didn't get the papers until April 25, and here as of May 27, the VEC is still working on the submissions from April 24.
Soon I guess.
But then, one of my friends got his origional ticket after a short wait of only eighteen weeks! Things are better now.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KB2SMS on May 27, 2000, 03:43:13 PM
  My info was finally updated yesterday, I submitted the paperwork on April 16th so about 5 weeks. Tom...


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KR4YL on May 30, 2000, 11:14:56 AM
I updated to Extra on the 15th at a midnight ARRL-VE session and it took just under a month to have the upgrade granted.  

Since the ARRL-VEC is the largest VEC, it gets the most applications and with 15,000 NCVEC Form 605's from the first day to process, no one should be suprised its taking awhile.  The VEC's have the responsibility to make sure the data is entered correctly, and that there are no problems with an application before it is electronically sent to the FCC.  

Anytime you take paper forms and have to enter them into a computer it is going to cause a delay.  Until there is a way for the VE teams to submit electronically to the VECs its going to be this way and that will require the VECs no longer being required to keep the paperwork on file.  (In other words-- Part 97 would need to be changed.)

The smaller VECs have the advantage of having far less paperwork to process.  

The ARRL-VEC and W5YI-VEC are the largest two and both are snowed under.   Last I checked it was taking the W5YI-VEC 3-4 weeks.  

Now my story of woe:  My 4 week wait for Extra was the shortest wait I've ever had.  My original Technician in '93 took 11 weeks, my General in 94 took 10 weeks and my Advanced ('94) took 17 weeks!   I tested in March and saw my license in August and it was a callsign change so it was that much more painful!   So add em' up: 11+10+17+4 = 42 weeks (10 weeks shy of a year) waiting for licenses!

We can use our our new licenses the moment we have a CSCE in hand!  I signed /AA for 17 weeks myself.  Sure its a pain but at least you can use new frequencies and bands.  

I'm sure we've all been snowed under at our own jobs and know what its like to be overworked (and probably underpaid.)  

The VEs and VECs are doing a great job!  Thanks guys and gals -- I know most of us hams appriciate the hard work.









Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KR4YL on May 30, 2000, 11:15:15 AM
I updated to Extra on the 15th at a midnight ARRL-VE session and it took just under a month to have the upgrade granted.  

Since the ARRL-VEC is the largest VEC, it gets the most applications and with 15,000 NCVEC Form 605's from the first day to process, no one should be suprised its taking awhile.  The VEC's have the responsibility to make sure the data is entered correctly, and that there are no problems with an application before it is electronically sent to the FCC.  

Anytime you take paper forms and have to enter them into a computer it is going to cause a delay.  Until there is a way for the VE teams to submit electronically to the VECs its going to be this way and that will require the VECs no longer being required to keep the paperwork on file.  (In other words-- Part 97 would need to be changed.)

The smaller VECs have the advantage of having far less paperwork to process.  

The ARRL-VEC and W5YI-VEC are the largest two and both are snowed under.   Last I checked it was taking the W5YI-VEC 3-4 weeks.  

Now my story of woe:  My 4 week wait for Extra was the shortest wait I've ever had.  My original Technician in '93 took 11 weeks, my General in 94 took 10 weeks and my Advanced ('94) took 17 weeks!   I tested in March and saw my license in August and it was a callsign change so it was that much more painful!   So add em' up: 11+10+17+4 = 42 weeks (10 weeks shy of a year) waiting for licenses!

We can use our our new licenses the moment we have a CSCE in hand!  I signed /AA for 17 weeks myself.  Sure its a pain but at least you can use new frequencies and bands.  

I'm sure we've all been snowed under at our own jobs and know what its like to be overworked (and probably underpaid.)  

The VEs and VECs are doing a great job!  Thanks guys and gals -- I know most of us hams appriciate the hard work.









Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KR4YL on May 30, 2000, 11:15:37 AM
I updated to Extra on the 15th at a midnight ARRL-VE session and it took just under a month to have the upgrade granted.

Since the ARRL-VEC is the largest VEC, it gets the most applications and with 15,000 NCVEC Form 605's from the first day to process, no one should be suprised its taking awhile. The VEC's have the responsibility to make sure the data is entered correctly, and that there are no problems with an application before it is electronically sent to the FCC.

Anytime you take paper forms and have to enter them into a computer it is going to cause a delay. Until there is a way for the VE teams to submit electronically to the VECs its going to be this way and that will require the VECs no longer being required to keep the paperwork on file. (In other words-- Part 97 would need to be changed.)

The smaller VECs have the advantage of having far less paperwork to process.

The ARRL-VEC and W5YI-VEC are the largest two and both are snowed under. Last I checked it was taking the W5YI-VEC 3-4 weeks.

Now my story of woe: My 4 week wait for Extra was the shortest wait I've ever had. My original Technician in '93 took 11 weeks, my General in 94 took 10 weeks and my Advanced ('94) took 17 weeks! I tested in March and saw my license in August and it was a callsign change so it was that much more painful! So add em' up: 11+10+17+4 = 42 weeks (10 weeks shy of a year) waiting for licenses!

We can use our our new licenses the moment we have a CSCE in hand! I signed /AA for 17 weeks myself. Sure its a pain but at least you can use new frequencies and bands.

I'm sure we've all been snowed under at our own jobs and know what its like to be overworked (and probably underpaid.)

The VEs and VECs are doing a great job! Thanks guys and gals -- I know most of us hams appriciate the hard work.

 


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KR4YL on May 30, 2000, 11:17:21 AM
I updated to Extra on the 15th at a midnight ARRL-VE session and it took just under a month to have the upgrade granted.

Since the ARRL-VEC is the largest VEC, it gets the most applications and with 15,000 NCVEC Form 605's from the first day to process, no one should be suprised its taking awhile. The VEC's have the responsibility to make sure the data is entered correctly, and that there are no problems with an application before it is electronically sent to the FCC.

Anytime you take paper forms and have to enter them into a computer it is going to cause a delay. Until there is a way for the VE teams to submit electronically to the VECs its going to be this way and that will require the VECs no longer being required to keep the paperwork on file. (In other words-- Part 97 would need to be changed.)

The smaller VECs have the advantage of having far less paperwork to process.

The ARRL-VEC and W5YI-VEC are the largest two and both are snowed under. Last I checked it was taking the W5YI-VEC 3-4 weeks.

Now my story of woe: My 4 week wait for Extra was the shortest wait I've ever had. My original Technician in '93 took 11 weeks, my General in 94 took 10 weeks and my Advanced ('94) took 17 weeks! I tested in March and saw my license in August and it was a callsign change so it was that much more painful! So add em' up: 11+10+17+4 = 42 weeks (10 weeks shy of a year) waiting for licenses!

We can use our our new licenses the moment we have a CSCE in hand! I signed /AA for 17 weeks myself. Sure its a pain but at least you can use new frequencies and bands.

I'm sure we've all been snowed under at our own jobs and know what its like to be overworked (and probably underpaid.)

The VEs and VECs are doing a great job! Thanks guys and gals -- I know most of us hams appriciate the hard work.

 


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KB7NAM on May 30, 2000, 05:43:33 PM
I took my general written prior to the 15th, on the 16th I had the paperwork processed for the upgrade to General.  30th of May - nothing yet.

I checked on another ham's call at the same session and he already received his upgrade two weeks ago (May 16th).  I called the ARRL today and they said that was impossible cause they were still working on upgrades received at the HQ on 4/15.  I checked the backlog file on the arrl web site to see when my sessions paper work was received and they indicate that they didn't receive the test session paper work till 5/1.  Well past the 10 day cycle.  I'm getting tired of /ag.

Its funny, when I originally took my Novice, I passed two weeks before a friend of mine.  He ended up getting his call a month before I did.  So I guess 6 weeks and nothing is better than the 12 it took last time!!


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KD5ILF on May 31, 2000, 01:46:00 PM
As of today I have retired KD5ILF.  It is now AC5WA!  Well, at least until further notice.  

Good luck to all of you who are still waiting.  I got mine in only 41 days.  That's still a little less than the six weeks my first liscense took.  Don't give up if you are still waiting.  There is yet hope!

73 de AC5WA
Gerald Johnston


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: K3OWX on June 01, 2000, 08:55:30 AM
I upgraded from Advanced to Extra on April 15th and recieved my license in the mail on April 25th--10 DAYS !!
Thanks to the Laurel Maryland VEC.
Makes up for the 6 weeks I had to wait when first licensed
in 1961.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: WD4NSB on June 07, 2000, 11:39:54 AM
I passed element 4A on Feb. 12, 2000. On March 11, 2000, I took and passed element 4B. I, then, turned in my CSCEs on April 15th at Smithfield, N.C.. My paperwork arrived at Newington, CT (ARRL/VEC) on April 27th. I just received my grant in the ULS database today (June 7th). This is a wait of only 53 days (just over 6 weeks). Good luck to those still waiting and hope you don't have to wait much longer.
73, Woodie


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: K8APL on June 08, 2000, 09:27:30 AM
i filed april 15th, for upgrade, and it posted may 23rd. my license arrived on june 5th. it took  5 weeks to show
 on fcc website and 7 weeks to receive license in mail.





Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KC5MFA on June 17, 2000, 02:10:28 PM
I attended a paperwork VE session for my General on April 17 and my upgrade was granted June 1.  The upgrade took almost as long to grant as my original Tech ticket in 1995.  That took exactly 2 months.


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KF4MFQ on June 23, 2000, 03:45:37 PM
Let not forget the process here... Once you pass the exam, the VE paperwork (typically) goes to that VEs VEC (Volunteer Examiner Coordinator) where it is logged, cross-checked, and verified.  The VEC then keys the data into a database and that data is transferred electronically to the FCC.  FCC is now (again, typically) issuing the licence document overnight the day they receive the transfer.  I passed my General on May 11 and my license was posted on the ULS June 10, the paper showed up in the mail-box yesterday (June 22).

The ARRL has been processing something on the order of 30 to 50 exam session packets (some 1000 applications) every day for the last couple of months.

Chris KF4MFQ


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: WA4CNG on August 19, 2000, 09:15:24 PM
I did my General Upgrade on 4-15-2000, FCC posted on 4-21-00, license in mailbox on 4-29-00.  Very good response, the VEC's, the mailing by the VEC's, posting and return mail.
Will be doing my Extra Upgrade the second Saturday in September, 2000. More later....


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: WA4CNG on September 03, 2000, 01:33:25 AM
Did the Extra Exam on Friday August 8-25-2000, checking the "Dailys" this week.  Have Paper will Talk!, 9 countries to go for Y2K-DXCC.  Still having a blast back on HF!


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KE3YD on November 08, 2000, 08:19:56 PM
When I first got licensed in '95, it was a 10-day wait to get the ticket.  But when I upgraded to advanced, I waited a little while to apply for a new sequential call sign.  I went throught the ARRL-VEC for the call sign change.  Stuck the application in the mail on a Wednesday (from Delaware) and on Saturday a.m. the new call was in the database.  Great service!


Title: How Long Did it take for the FCC to post your new
Post by: KG4LJF on January 31, 2001, 06:37:55 PM
I passed my exam on the 19th of Jan. 4 days later, my call sign popped up on the fcc database. 2 weeks later, I got my licence in the mail! 73's to all.