eHam Forums => Misc => Topic started by: K9FON on May 27, 2009, 11:24:42 AM

Title: venting
Post by: K9FON on May 27, 2009, 11:24:42 AM
I will try to be nice on what im about to say. I go to several hamfests a year and one thing i have noticed is some hams are just plain, outright, GROSS! I dont think some of these guys bathe at all. For gods sake, and for the sake of some of us that have to smell your gross a$$es, for crying out loud take a BATH and change your clothes!!!! How can some of these guys live with themselves? I mean c' mon do thses guys go out in a public place like this? If I did, my XYL would kill me!!
I am sorry if i have offended some, but i had to get this off my chest!!

Title: venting
Post by: KE4DRN on May 27, 2009, 03:42:53 PM

I guess some used up all their money for
the trip to Dayton.

good thing most of them don't smoke,
otherwise they would self ignite !

73 james

Title: venting
Post by: K5END on May 27, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
Some of the ones I smelled at Dayton reeked AND smoked.

Very inconsiderate.

Blowing smoke carelessly in my direction.


Maybe they could have a sort of sheep dip booth at the entrance gate.

Title: venting
Post by: WB2WIK on May 27, 2009, 05:26:50 PM
I went to a newsstand today to look for an unusual video magazine and there were three other people there browsing...all three smelled bad!

Maybe the economy's so bad that people have given up soap.

I must say "Americans" usually smelled better than most other nationalities, but I'm not so sure anymore.

We have had the luxury of inexpensive water (in most places) for many years, so daily bathing was pretty standard here.  Not so, in many places around the world where water is a precious commodity.

I had a French YL friend who was astonished that I showered in the morning and then again at night.  She actually asked, "Aren't you concerned about wasting all that water?"  She told me where she grew up, bathing was normally a two or three times a week event.

I guess that's why they have such great perfumes...



Title: venting
Post by: W3LK on May 28, 2009, 06:44:08 AM
I read all these complaints about smelly hams at hamfests, but I guess my nose is insensitive because I don't find any more smelly people there than I do anywhere else.

If you want smelly, try the New York subway (any train) on any late afternoon. I imagine Chicago is the same way, although I've only ridden the trains there once, several years ago.

With all the positive things to discuss about Dayton (or any other hamfest)  I fail to see the compulsion to complain about smelly hams.

Smell happens; get over it.


Lon - W3LK
Naugatuck, Connecticut

Title: venting
Post by: WW5AA on May 28, 2009, 07:08:08 AM
I have been all over the world and here is my generalized take:

Worst smelling: French

Best  smelling: Southeast Asians

My pet peeve are those that use so much cologne, aftershave or perfume that you can smell em from 20 feet! Worse than second hand smoke and more toxic.

73 de Lindy

Title: venting
Post by: CROWBAR on May 29, 2009, 05:32:54 AM
A quote from my wife on the way to a hamfest:

"If He Hugs Me Again This Year, I Will Puke."

And /6 is right. People in other parts of the world do seem to bathe more infrequently.

Title: venting
Post by: K5END on May 30, 2009, 08:26:00 AM
New York City is what it is and the mass transit and general sidewalk filth is one reason I don't live there.

But that is no reason for others to rationalize it's OK to stink.

Most people in the U.S. understand that the nicest thing one can do for his fellow man is to not reek of poignant odors.

And the perfumes, after shave and colognes some people choose ought to be outlawed, or at least taxed very, very, very heavily.

There is a reason they call it "TOILET water."

Title: venting
Post by: K3NRX on June 01, 2009, 07:26:04 AM
I got to tell ya, I don't disagree with the points being made here by K9FON.  Way back when I was just getting into the hobby, I did notice the same thing.  It was quite a shock to see that some (not everyone)of our fellow radio operators appeared to be very unkept and quite grungy.  Many of our brethern also appeared to be grotesquly overweight too.  But hey, ya know as far as that goes, it is what it is, and people are what they are. Some things can't be helped. But being overweight or whatever is no excuse for not bathing, brushing ones teeth, or keeping one's self decently groomed to the point were there are no unpleasent odors emitting from your person.  I didn't get it then, and I still don't get it. These guys seem to have $$$$ to burn on all kinds of radio stuff and cigarettes, but no cash to buy a bar of soap or pay a water bill to shower or to keep their close cleaned. That is beyond my comprehension.  I hate to say it, but it sort of adds to a stereotype that's been around for quite a while.  That we Radio Amateurs are not only nerdy geeks, but are also all a bunch of sloppy, grungy, anti-social outcasts that wouldn't know how to behave outside our coccoon (radio shack). Nothing can be further from the truth. That really is a shame.

Vince P

Title: venting
Post by: K9FON on June 04, 2009, 01:33:20 PM
Well not all of us hams are gross. I feel that I take care of myself enough were women that I meet out in public smile and say hi to me so I guess im not that bad! But there are some hams that are just outright blatantly gross! I never could understand why either as most hams are very intelligent, have very well paying jobs, but will drive a POS car and live in a trashed up house, but own a high dollar ham station. I guess its priorities. I know our house isnt the Taj Mahal but it looks pretty decent with a mowed yard and the house looks pretty decent inside and out. Heck i know some CB ops that are neater than some hams and thats a shame!

Title: venting
Post by: W0DV on June 07, 2009, 08:01:06 PM
I have to work with a guy like that every day. He is about 400 lbs and stinks every day like butt sweat. He rarely washes his clothes or shaves.
Some people just have no shame.

Title: venting
Post by: W3LK on June 08, 2009, 06:46:38 AM
Where's the HR director of your company? Doesn't your company have dress standards?

If someone did that in my company they would be written up each time and the third time fired!


Lon - W3LK
Naugatuck, Connecticut

Title: venting
Post by: K9FON on June 08, 2009, 11:37:08 AM
Give him a bottle of soap and a scoozie for xmas.
I hate people that are gross like that and sadly, many of them are hams. I guess some of these college educated morons are too intelligent to develop personal hygiene habits. I used to work with a guy that literally smelled like a hog farm every day. Finally one day i had enough and flat out told him he was gross and needed a bath. Yeah I got wrote up, but he DID take better care of himself after that.

Title: venting
Post by: K5END on June 08, 2009, 02:24:23 PM
Uh, how is "butt sweat" different than other sweat?


I think this is one of life's mysteries on which I prefer to remain blissfully ignorant.

Title: venting
Post by: W3LK on June 08, 2009, 04:35:47 PM
I guess you guys run in a completely different ham circle than I do. I have met exactly TWO hams in the last 10 years that fall into the category you describe.


Lon - W3LK
Naugatuck, Connecticut

Title: venting
Post by: W3LK on June 08, 2009, 04:37:31 PM

if you have a sensitive nose, DON'T visit Cairo! Was there on Palm Sunday; took me a couple of days at sea to recover. :)


Lon - W3LK
Naugatuck, Connecticut

Title: venting
Post by: OLLIEOXEN27 on June 10, 2009, 02:12:04 PM
That's why they're hams. They're not designed to be rolled out and paraded in public. Just ignore them.

You know why bars are so popular? Each person in there thinks they are superior to everyone else in the bar. People are most comfortable around those they feel superior to. That's why men in business suits make people uncomfortable (and are portrayed as villains on TV programs [TV is reality turned upside down]). That's why women like bikers and dumb body builder types. People who are more successful, smarter or look better make us feel inferior.


Title: venting
Post by: K4DPK on July 11, 2009, 08:35:39 PM
This topic is kinda strange, but I'll join in to tell you something that is absolutely true.  I know some of the younger guys will say, "Oh that old man is just making that up", but ask anyone else who was around in the fifties....

At hamfests in the early to late fifties, ALL of the grown-ups had on a white shirt and tie.  Some of them wore bow-ties, but ties none-the-less.  

The younger guys (teenagers like myself) wore IRONED pants and starched shirts.  

Everyone's hair was combed.

I kid you not.

Phil C. Sr.

Title: venting
Post by: K7UNZ on July 11, 2009, 09:57:30 PM
Just to expand on what Phil (DPK) said....

Even in pictures of the shack, if the op was in the shot, he was in a shirt and tie!  This seemed to end around the mid-60's (hi).


Title: venting
Post by: K9FON on July 12, 2009, 02:45:30 PM
Yes i believe it. I have looked at my folkses old high school yearbooks from the late 1950s and noticed how neatly dressed everyone was back then. People back then had style and taste and eveyone looked neat and well dressed. A much simpler time.

Title: venting
Post by: W7ETA on July 13, 2009, 07:49:20 PM
Your rant doesn't offend me.

The few times I went to pre-sunrise hamfests, I chose to sleep the extra half hour opting out of taking a shower and shaving.

Never cold figure out why hamfests had to start before sunrise instead of around noon?!

During the first few hamfests I went to, I did encounter a few ops who looked as if they had opted out of taking a shower before the hamfest and practiced it a few days before the hamfest.  But, at that time I still smoked.  So I couldn't smell much to start and just lit a cigarette, and then couldn't smell a thing.

I used to help run VE sessions--no problems.
I used to be a member of the local repeater club--no problem at those meetings.
I used to be a member of a contest club who's packet cluster I used--no problems at their meetings.
I used to be a member of a local DX club--no problems at those meetings.

The biggest problem with volunteer meetings is that there are always "Too may chiefs and not enough indians."  Plus, at times, some vocal people are more interested in being RIGHT regardless of how many people they drive away.

Maybe the "average" ham has lower than "average" people skills?

June Cleaver?????!!!
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