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Title: Found IRCs
Post by: N4NYY on March 18, 2010, 02:52:49 PM
OK, based on advice of many here, I went to a major post office/distribution center. Luckily, it's across the street from Fedex, where I go every day. I avoided the small local yocal post offices.

Anyway, I played stupid and ask if they had IRCs because of my ham hobby, as I didn't know what they were. The first guy I walked up to, whipped out a newly sealed pack of the new style. Not only that, but he explained to me exactly how they are used and what they are for. He told me to use these instead of money.

So, I guess it depends where you go.


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: N3ZC on March 30, 2010, 04:23:37 AM
Buy them here:


https://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10052&productId=10006688&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=10000002&to

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   73'
       Tom N3ZC


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: KG4RUL on March 30, 2010, 06:16:31 AM
Buy them here:


https://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10052&productId=10006688&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=10000002&to

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   73'
       Tom N3ZC

How do you get them postmarked without a trip to the post office?   ???  Convenience with a Catch 22.   ::)

If you are lucky enough to be on a rural postal route, you can place a check and a note to the postmaster describing what you want (also reminding them to postmark the IRCs) and they will magically show up in your mailbox a few days later.   ;D


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: AB0Z on March 30, 2010, 06:45:59 AM
Gents:

>> How do you get them postmarked ... <<

Actually, you do not need to get them stamped at all before sending them!  It says, above the lower-left box, "empreinte du pays d'origine (facultative)".  The "facultative" means *optional*.

In any case, my mail-order IRC's are already stamped USA / $2.10 in the lower-left box ...

Definitely, do not stamp them in the lower-right box.  That is for when they are redeemed and this "cancels" them.

Mni 73 de David, AB0Z


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: N6ORB on March 30, 2010, 07:55:56 AM
Sorry, but this is wrong. I've seen several QRZ.COM entries for hams in Europe especially that emphasize the need to have the IRC postmarked. I'm willing to believe the guys who have to try to get the IRCs redeemed.

Dave
N6ORB


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: N6ORB on March 30, 2010, 08:04:34 AM
Recently, I sent a card to HS0ZIN in Thailand. His QRZ.COM entry specifies that any IRCs must be stamped in the country of origin.

Regardless of what the IRC may have printed on it, it is the local post office that decides exactly how it will handle them.

Dave
N6ORB


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: AB0Z on March 30, 2010, 08:27:25 AM
Dave -

Of course, if your corresponding HAM specifies a stamp, get one!  Also, I can definitely see that a Thai postman will have difficulty with the fine print in French.  You can definitely help your QSL'er avoid a long argument with his post office by just getting it postmarked...

Nevertheless - it is *True* that the stamp is optional.  That is why USPS mails them to you with just a basic "USA / $2.10" printed there.  

73 David


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: W7JFF on April 13, 2010, 05:15:54 PM
I purchased some IRCs from the USPS online site and received them unstamped.  I sent them off with QSL requests.  

Today in the mail I received replacement IRCs, stamped nicely in the left box, with a letter.  Excerpts from the letter: "The International
Reply Coupons you originally received were not properly postmarked and therefore, cannot be used for mailing.  These may be discarded.  
We are enclosing replacement International Reply Coupons, postmarked on the left side(under heading "control stamp of the country of origin"), as required by US Postal Regulations."

Interesting.

Jeff, W7JFF


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: AF3Y on April 13, 2010, 06:16:47 PM
Hmmmmmm....... You know what you could do with the others. Now, I do NOT personally advocate that kind of thing, but....   Gene


Title: RE: Found IRCs
Post by: W2LO on April 15, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
A discussion of US-issued IRCs stamped with a wet stamp by the selling office or simply sold with the printed "US $2.10" revolves around two concepts: first, the fact that IRCs distinctly say under Universal Postal Union rules in that left-hand box in French that the stamp is "facultative", that is, "optional" so the US is quite correct in selling them with just a printed "US $2.10"; second, postal administrations that redeem them often have their own rules, frequently at variance with UPU rules (see #1), requiring something of the issuing offices that is not called for (i.e.,a wet stamp).

 In the end the ham that redeems the IRC has to play by his administration's rules and we, seeking the QSL, have to play by their rules too, UPU rules notwithstanding.

 It makes the whole thing that much more complicated.