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Title: Making cb radio operators
Post by: KC8KTN on April 23, 2010, 08:55:41 AM
I hear they are thinking about making cb radio operators get a yearly licensee to raise sinking  revenues.I think this would be great..


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AE4RV on April 23, 2010, 08:59:37 AM
What would the incentive to comply be?  :-\


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: KB1TXK on April 23, 2010, 09:12:33 AM
I personally think the idea of making CBers get license would go over like a fart in church.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: N4ATS on April 23, 2010, 09:27:01 AM
Relax people , you (we) were all cb'rs at one time and it is STILL the best thing to have on a road trip for traffic jams and stuff.

People need to grow up and get off the CB'rs.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: K1WJ on April 23, 2010, 09:28:39 AM
Who ever is thinking that must be high as a kite. Look, there is No way to manage this effectively. CB band is a total waste land - it would be like trying to hold back the Colorado river with a napkin.  ::) 73 K1WJ


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: KB1TXK on April 23, 2010, 09:45:02 AM
Relax people , you (we) were all cb'rs at one time and it is STILL the best thing to have on a road trip for traffic jams and stuff.

People need to grow up and get off the CB'rs.

I'm not hating on CB, I'm just being realistic


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AD6KA on April 23, 2010, 09:50:09 AM
This topic is not a question and belongs
in the "Misc" or "Speak Out" section.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AA4HA on April 23, 2010, 09:54:29 AM
Chuck,

Have you considered posting this on www.ecb.net?

I do not know if it matters to most of us what they do with the 11 meter band as long as those folks;

1. Do not interfere with our operations due to excessive power output.
2. Stay in their own damned band and knock off the "freeband" nonsense.
3. Drop their annoying LID behaviors when some of them graduate to amateur radio.

If the FCC wants to try to regulate that wasteland of spectrum then more power to them. It really does not make a difference to most amateur operators.

And why did you post this in elmers? "All these forums are yours, except elmers. Attempt no landings there. Use them together. Use them in peace."

Just my 2 cents,

Tisha Hayes, AA4HA


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: K7MH on April 23, 2010, 10:15:32 AM
It is not like CB has always had free "licensing".
It used to cost a few bucks for a 5 year CB license before they deregulated it.
Some actually got licenses and some didn't back then.
CB is a graveyard compared to back in the heydays. Probably not much money to be had from licensing fees and the administrative costs may not make it worthwhile.
The licensing fee cat has been out of the bag for a long time.
You probably couldn't catch the cat let alone get it back in the bag!
Sounds like rumor mill nonsense.
Take it to a CB forum. Let them fuss over it.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: FORMER_K0PD on April 23, 2010, 10:20:25 AM
My Question is first off how are they going to enforce it as i'm certain that would cost more than they ever could hope to take in. I recall reading yrs ago some kind of a proposal that would have made CB part of the amateur band again with it's own licensing structure as having it like a sub novice band. But ever since the FCC dropped licensing CB'ers i believe in the early 80's the CB band is completely out of control with no set standards other than what CB groups work out among them selves.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AA4HA on April 23, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
It is like FRS or MURS where no licensing is required but not like GMRS where a it is.

CB is far down the totem pole from any of these services. If I was a self-respecting CB'er I would move over to GMRS and encourage my friends to do so. At least on the GMRS bands you can find repeaters in some cities. FRS, MURS and GMRS all can use those dandy features like CTCSS or DCS.

I use MURS on my property as I can give someone a Motorola Saber radio and tell them to stick on a specific channel. (hunters, hikers)

<smile> or CB radio needs to move to some type of SelectCall system so you can ignore 99% of the trash.

If CB had stuck to a mostly line-of-sight system there would not be nearly as many "kickers" out there.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AA4PB on April 23, 2010, 12:01:50 PM
The VAT will get them - it'll add 10% to the cost of big linears :-) Much more effective than charging a license fee.



Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AE4RV on April 23, 2010, 12:35:57 PM
"Attempt no landings there." Hi Hi, Tisha. Well, I guess it is 2010 now...


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: WA3SKN on April 23, 2010, 01:06:11 PM
Rumor mill.
There is no such proposal at this time.
73s.

-Mike.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: KD8MJR on April 23, 2010, 01:23:06 PM
Who ever is thinking that must be high as a kite. Look, there is No way to manage this effectively. CB band is a total waste land - it would be like trying to hold back the Colorado river with a napkin.  ::) 73 K1WJ

So True   :)
The only thing they could ever possibly do with CB is to reallocate the Band back to Hams, stop all CB radio manufactoring then wait about 15 years till no CB operators are left on the Band. 


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: W7ETA on April 23, 2010, 01:46:06 PM
I heard that DARPA forced CB makers to install GPS devices in all CB radios, that constantly transmit location and digital files of any sound, even if the unit is turned off.

They provide that information to the CIA when the CIA needs targets to practice efficient capture, killing, and untraceable body disposal.  In essence, they take the cream of the crop, miscreant's miscreants.

NASA pass on files to a civilization living on the Dark Side of The Moon.  At night, the Moonies capture cream of the crop CBers traveling on lonely rural roads and those riding 4 wheelers in the desert.  the CBers are used as test subjects to see if living on the Dark Side of The Moon can cure anti-social behavior and brain death.  In essence, will the insanity caused by living in isolation in constant darkness cure the insanity of CBers?



Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AE4RV on April 23, 2010, 01:54:24 PM
I was right with you until you implied that the far side of the moon is in constant darkness.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AA4HA on April 23, 2010, 01:55:13 PM
I heard that DARPA forced CB makers to install GPS devices in all CB radios, that constantly transmit location and digital files of any sound, even if the unit is turned off.

I convinced one of our bench techs that LED lights also work as miniature cameras and that "we" could look anywhere there was an LED and see what is going on remotely. This was a fairly sharp tech (with an associates degree) and I was surprised when I visited his home and saw black electrical tape pieces covering every LED in his house.

I looked at him menacingly and said "it does not matter, we have enough recorded of what you do at home when you are alone".

--------------
I think that Chuck is just trying to stir the pot.

Tisha Hayes, AA4HA


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: KC8KTN on April 23, 2010, 05:18:29 PM
Cb radios  ham radios and wrestling what else is there.....  This is true that they are thinking about the fee structure so cb radios.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: N3OX on April 23, 2010, 06:37:14 PM
I convinced one of our bench techs that LED lights also work as miniature cameras

They actually do, provided you count one photodiode as a 1 pixel camera

:-)

http://itp.nyu.edu/physcomp/sensors/Reoprts/LEDAsPhotodiode




Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AD6KA on April 23, 2010, 06:46:51 PM
KC8KTN
Quote
"This is true that they are thinking about the fee structure so cb radios."

If it's true then you should have no problem
citing your source, a specific reliable reference.


Citing your source means showing where others can look it up
in writing for themselves, such as a footnote in a book does.

But you can't cite your source because it's a rumor.
Been one for years.

And "I heard two guys talking about it on 20m and they said
it was true, and one worked for the FCC" etc, etc, is not a source.


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: K4DPK on April 23, 2010, 06:47:53 PM
Morbid curiosity compelled me to read your post, thinking this one couldn’t possibly be any sillier and more ridiculous than the ones you’ve posted in the past.

I was wrong.

Hang in here Chuckie.  Whatever it takes to keep you off the ham bands.

Phil C. sr.
k4dpk


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: KF4VTI on April 23, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
I always have to read these anti-CB'er threads, I rarely reply but usually get a good laugh out of some of the posts.
This time I figure I'll add my nickles worth of jibberish into the mix.

I hear they are thinking about making cb radio operators get a yearly licensee to raise sinking  revenues.I think this would be great..
I think what would be great is if there was a mandatory IQ limit PLUS an actual technical ability test before you are allowed to even take any amateur test.


... CB radio needs to move to some type of SelectCall system so you can ignore 99% of the trash.
Now I would pay good money for that  ;D


The only thing they could ever possibly do with CB is to reallocate the Band back to Hams, stop all CB radio manufactoring then wait about 15 years till no CB operators are left on the Band. 
Almost sounds like a good idea except for the fact that there are many CB'ers that have better amateur gear than a lot of the hams, not to mention the fact that if ALL CB production stopped and you waited 30 years.... the CB'ers would still be right where they are now. Like the old saying goes 'when CBs are outlawed, only outlaws will have CBs'.  :D






Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: W7ETA on April 23, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
So far, the only person to refute the facts was Wayne Green-he could prove man never went to the moon.
73
Bob


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: AD6KA on April 23, 2010, 09:49:23 PM
Quote
Morbid curiosity compelled me to read your post, thinking this one couldn’t possibly be any sillier and more ridiculous than the ones you’ve posted in the past.

I was wrong.

I disagree, Phil.
The post where he asked where he could find
the computer program that would tell him the
phonetics for his callsign was far more ridiculous.


Trisha's right, he's "stirring the pot".

At this point he's not posting questions, he's trolling again..


He said he had HRD and Signalink "All hooked up and ready to go".
What happened?
Why did he drop those subjects and suddenly start posting
CB Fees and 10m repeater offset?

Check out this site for insightful answers:
 http://www.flayme.com/troll/ (http://www.flayme.com/troll/)
Start with: Why do trolls do it?


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: N2EY on April 24, 2010, 03:25:47 AM
you (we) were all cb'rs at one time

I wasn't.

Been a radio amateur since October 1967. Never had a cber.

----

AA4HA has it exactly right. What happens on the cb channels is the cb folks' business - as long as they stay on their channels.





Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: W3LK on April 24, 2010, 12:49:21 PM
Considering this person's history on eHam, why does ANYONE respond to his trolling posts?


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: W7ETA on April 24, 2010, 09:47:54 PM
Well.

I had FUN.

I have FUN with junk phone calls also.

Where is Wayne Green when you need him the most?

73

Bob


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: N8YX on April 25, 2010, 08:42:07 AM
I see the OP missed the target date by a mere 22 days.

Better late than never, I suppose.  ::)


Title: RE: Making cb radio operators
Post by: KU4UV on May 09, 2010, 10:47:33 PM
Yeah right, good luck with that.  One of the reasons why the license requirement was dropped in the first place was because most people during the C.B. craze of the mid 70's didn't even bother to pay the fee to actually get a license for a C.B. station.  I was born in 1974, so I can sort of remeber the glory years of C.B. radio.  Most people just decided to take their chances with no license.  The FCC finally just said the hell with it and dropped the license requirement in 1980.  I would suspect that 90 percent of the people that go to Wal-Mart and purchase a GMRS  radio also aren't going to bother with paying $75 dollars for a license.  I feel that this is going to be the next problem that the FCC is going to have to deal with, but who knows.  How are you really go to go about enforcing a license requirement for GMRS handhelds?  Have you ever even heard of anyone using a callsign on a GMRS handheld?  Where did you get this information about C.B. by the way?  Is this a joke?

73,
KU4UV