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Title: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 22, 2010, 04:30:34 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 21, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,134    (2.3%)
Technician      341,643  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          154,598  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,867    (8.6%)
Extra              121,879  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,121

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KI4SDY on August 24, 2010, 09:53:50 PM
Gee, your "eHam.net expert" buddy K1CJS previously posted that ham radio was declining.??? I guess he was wrong! ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 25, 2010, 03:35:17 AM
Gee, your "eHam.net expert" buddy K1CJS previously posted that ham radio was declining.??? I guess he was wrong! ;)

I didn't see that one. He wasn't "wrong" as much as "out of date".

To show some longer-term trends, here are the numbers from May 14, 2000, and Feb 22 2007, from the same source as the others I posted (percentages are rounded off):

As of May 14, 2000:
 
Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of February 22, 2007:

Novice - 22,896 (3.5%)
Technician - 293,508 (44.8%)
Technician Plus - 30,818 (4.7%)
General - 130,138 (19.9%)
Advanced - 69,050 (10.5%)
Extra - 108,270 (16.5%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,326 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 654,680



73 de Jim, N2EY   


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KI4SDY on August 25, 2010, 08:01:57 AM
No, he was wrong at the time he made recent the statement. The number of licensees has been increasing for years, right after they eliminated the code requirement. ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 29, 2010, 02:52:18 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 28, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,121    (2.3%)
Technician      341,583  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          154,720  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,852    (8.6%)
Extra              121,963  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,259  (new all-time high)

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 05, 2010, 04:43:13 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 4, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,102    (2.3%)
Technician      341,474  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          154,778  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,819    (8.6%)
Extra              121,982  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,155  

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 12, 2010, 03:37:18 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 11, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,081    (2.3%)
Technician      341,512  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          154,818  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,798    (8.6%)
Extra              122,015  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,224  

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 19, 2010, 04:49:18 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 18, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,067    (2.3%)
Technician      341,452  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          154,916  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,774    (8.6%)
Extra              122,092  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,295 (new all-time high)  

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 26, 2010, 04:12:21 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 25, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,049    (2.3%)
Technician      341,528  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          154,970  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,757    (8.6%)
Extra              122,168  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,472 (new all-time high)  

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 03, 2010, 05:11:50 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 2, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,025    (2.3%)
Technician      341,546  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          154,983  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,714    (8.6%)
Extra              122,199  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,467  

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KA4AAA on October 04, 2010, 07:00:50 AM
Well, I was a 13wpm Tech Plus until March 14th of last year.  So, I was probably one of the last.

Now studying for my Extra.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AC6IJ on October 06, 2010, 07:10:08 PM
How does all this info. compare to the number of people in the U.S.A.?  I would think that if the population is increasing drasticaly then the number of Hams should follow. Without this info. how can we make any statement? Bill 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 07, 2010, 03:23:09 AM
How does all this info. compare to the number of people in the U.S.A.? 

Good question!

The following numbers have been posted by W5ESE on QRZ.com and elsewhere:
 
Year    Population     #Hams  Hams as % of US Population
1913   97,225,000     2,000  0.002%
1914   99,111,000     5,000  0.005%
1916 101,961,000     6,000  0.006%
1921 108,538,000   10,809  0.010%
1922 110,049,000   14,179  0.013%
1930 123,202,624   19,000  0.015%
1940 132,164,569   56,000  0.042%
1950 151,325,798   87,000  0.057%
1960 179,323,175 230,000  0.128%
1970 203,211,926 263,918  0.130%
1980 226,545,805 393,353  0.174%
1990 248,709,873 502,677  0.202%
1997 267,783,607 678,733  0.253%
2000 281,421,906 682,240  0.242%
2005 296,410,404 662,600  0.224%
2006 299,291,772 657,814  0.220%
2008 303,000,000 658,648  0.217%
2010 310,425,814 694,313  0.224%

The 2010 figures are from the US population clock

http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

and ARRL's FCC license counts as of today.

Some significant-to-US-ham-radio historical events:

1912: Mandatory licensing of all US radio amateurs
1917: US amateur radio shut down because of WW1
1919: US amateur radio reopened after WW1
1920s: Radio broadcasting boom; amateurs pioneer use of short-waves
1929: New regulations require higher quality transmitters and drastically narrow US ham bands. Stock market crashes
1930s: Great Depression
1941: US amateur radio shut down because of WW2
1945: US amateur radio reopened after WW2
1951: Restructuring doubles number of US license classes, Novice, Technician and Extra created
1957: Sputnik launched
1958: 27 MHz cb authorized
1960s: SSB replaces AM as most-popular voice mode on HF amateur bands
1968-69: Incentive licensing rules enacted
1970s: Novice becomes renewable, experience requirement for Extra eliminated. Repeater boom era.
1984: VEC system replaces FCC office testing. CSCEs created.
1990: Medical waivers for 13 and 20 wpm code tests
1991: Technician loses its code test completely
2000: Restructuring closes off 3 license classes and reduces test requirements for other 3.
2007: Code testing completely eliminated for US amateur licenses.

There are many more events; add your own.

Note how the growth has varied with time, both in percentages and totals. Oddly enough, the period of most-rapid-growth in terms of percentage was the 1930s, when the number of US hams almost tripled, despite the Great Depression.

The 1950s were high-growth time, in part because of the Novice license (started in 1951). This growth is even more remarkable when you consider that the population growth of the 1950s was mostly in the form of the baby boom. 

The 1960s saw very slow growth, but were followed by the faster growth of the 1970s, 1980s and most of the 1990s. The 1970s are particularly interesting because they were a time when the economy was terrible and the full effects of incentive licensing (imposed 1968-1969) were most felt. Yet we had tremendous growth then, and onwards to the mid-1990s.

Since 1997 we've seen ups and downs, and we're still behind where we were in 1997 in terms of hams as a percentage of the population. But the numbers are catching up.

Of course the numbers of licensees only tell part of the story. They don't tell how many licensees are active amateurs, in the form of having a station and getting on the air. They don't tell how many hams use a particular band or mode, or how much they operate, work on projects, etc.

FCC doesn't have age data on all licensees so it's impossible to accurately determine the mean or median age of US amateurs. (When you see "average age" figures tossed around, ask how they were derived.) 

The license term went to 10 years in 1984, which means there were no expirations at all from 1989 to 1994, and that a ham can drop out yet be carried on the license totals for almost a decade. 

There are lots of other factors - housing, economics, sources of population growth (immigration vs. babies), increasing lifespans, cell phones, the internet, and much more.

I became a ham in 1967, and for 43 years I've heard predictions of doom and gloom for amateur radio. Yet it's still here.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 10, 2010, 04:28:37 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 9, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,011    (2.3%)
Technician      341,593  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,066  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,686    (8.6%)
Extra              122,237  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,593  (new all-time high)

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 17, 2010, 05:01:06 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 16, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,993    (2.3%)
Technician      341,564  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,094  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,661    (8.6%)
Extra              122,290  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,602  (new all-time high)

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K1CJS on October 19, 2010, 09:39:37 PM
I got 'SDY on 'ignore', but I saw you quote him.  My mention was that ham licenses aren't increasing as fast as population growth is, therefore the percentage of hams when compared to the current world population is slowly dropping.  SDY is nothing but a pot stirrer anyway.  That's why I ignore his rants.

73, K1CJS


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 20, 2010, 02:32:03 PM
My mention was that ham licenses aren't increasing as fast as population growth is, therefore the percentage of hams when compared to the current world population is slowly dropping. 

Well, I don't know about the current world population vs. ham population.

But I do know that for the past 2-3 years the USA ham population has been growing faster than the overall USA population. That's clear from the changes in percentage posted earlier.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 24, 2010, 04:32:42 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 23, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,974    (2.3%)
Technician      341,616  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,132  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,635    (8.6%)
Extra              122,361  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,718  (new all-time high)

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 31, 2010, 07:56:18 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 30, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,951    (2.3%)
Technician      341,802  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,199  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,610    (8.6%)
Extra              122,426  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,988  (new all-time high)

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 07, 2010, 07:18:27 PM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 30, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,924    (2.3%)
Technician      341,733  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,171  (22.3%)
Advanced         59,578    (8.6%)
Extra              122,472  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,878

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 21, 2010, 05:39:25 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 20, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,890    (2.3%)
Technician      342,030  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,421  (22.3%)
Advanced         59,521    (8.6%)
Extra              122,587  (17.6%)

Total               695,449

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 28, 2010, 06:41:53 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 27, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,861    (2.3%)
Technician      342,018  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,463  (22.3%)
Advanced         59,489    (8.6%)
Extra              122,624  (17.6%)

Total               695,455

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 05, 2010, 07:06:59 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 4, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,844    (2.3%)
Technician      342,154  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,520  (22.4%)
Advanced         59,466    (8.5%)
Extra              122,706  (17.6%)

Total               695,690

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AF7JA on December 05, 2010, 08:42:58 AM

Year    Population     #Hams  Hams as % of US Population
1913   97,225,000     2,000  0.002%
1914   99,111,000     5,000  0.005%
1916 101,961,000     6,000  0.006%
1921 108,538,000   10,809  0.010%
1922 110,049,000   14,179  0.013%
1930 123,202,624   19,000  0.015%
1940 132,164,569   56,000  0.042%
1950 151,325,798   87,000  0.057%
1960 179,323,175 230,000  0.128%
1970 203,211,926 263,918  0.130%
1980 226,545,805 393,353  0.174%
1990 248,709,873 502,677  0.202%
1997 267,783,607 678,733  0.253%
2000 281,421,906 682,240  0.242%
2005 296,410,404 662,600  0.224%
2006 299,291,772 657,814  0.220%
2008 303,000,000 658,648  0.217%
2010 310,425,814 694,313  0.224%


Some significant-to-US-ham-radio historical events:

1912: Mandatory licensing of all US radio amateurs
1917: US amateur radio shut down because of WW1
1919: US amateur radio reopened after WW1
1920s: Radio broadcasting boom; amateurs pioneer use of short-waves
1929: New regulations require higher quality transmitters and drastically narrow US ham bands. Stock market crashes
1930s: Great Depression
1941: US amateur radio shut down because of WW2
1945: US amateur radio reopened after WW2
1951: Restructuring doubles number of US license classes, Novice, Technician and Extra created
1957: Sputnik launched
1958: 27 MHz cb authorized
1960s: SSB replaces AM as most-popular voice mode on HF amateur bands
1968-69: Incentive licensing rules enacted
1970s: Novice becomes renewable, experience requirement for Extra eliminated. Repeater boom era.
1984: VEC system replaces FCC office testing. CSCEs created.
1990: Medical waivers for 13 and 20 wpm code tests
1991: Technician loses its code test completely
2000: Restructuring closes off 3 license classes and reduces test requirements for other 3.
2007: Code testing completely eliminated for US amateur licenses.


73 de Jim, N2EY

Thanks, looking at this, it looks like some of the biggest "shots in the arm" to ham radio have come form the things that Amateur Radio operators have reviled the most. CB seems to have sparked interest in the radio communication hobby. Reducing, and eliminating, the code requirements seem to have made that interest accessible.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 05, 2010, 04:38:31 PM
Thanks, looking at this, it looks like some of the biggest "shots in the arm" to ham radio have come form the things that Amateur Radio operators have reviled the most. CB seems to have sparked interest in the radio communication hobby. Reducing, and eliminating, the code requirements seem to have made that interest accessible.

Not really.

Consider the following:

1930 123,202,624   19,000  0.015%
1940 132,164,569   56,000  0.042%

During the 1930s, the number of US hams almost tripled. The percentage of the population took a giant leap as well. Yet those were the years of the Great Depression, and immediately after the 1929 regulations which cut the size of several amateur bands and imposed strict new regulations on transmitters. Also, in 1936 the code test speed went from 10 wpm to 13 wpm and the written exams were upgraded.

1950 151,325,798   87,000  0.057%
1960 179,323,175 230,000  0.128%

The 1950s were a decade of tremendous growth in US amateur radio as well - almost a much as in the 1930s percentagewise. Yet this was the decade when TV became widespread in the USA. And it was almost all before 11 meter CB, which was created by FCC in 1958.

Now look at the 1960s:

1960 179,323,175 230,000  0.128%
1970 203,211,926 263,918  0.130%

Why so little growth in that decade? We had good economic times, the Space Race, and much more. Yet US ham radio barely kept up with the population growth. This was the decade when 11 meter cb went from a few users to millions.

Some might blame incentive licensing, but those changes didn't happen until November 1968 and 1969. So their full effects wouldn't be seen until the 1970s - which were also economic hard times. But look at the numbers:

1970 203,211,926 263,918  0.130%
1980 226,545,805 393,353  0.174%
 
The growth in the 1970s was far more than in the 1960s despite the increase in license requirements and the economic troubles. About 33,000 more hams in the 1960s, almost 130,000 - four times more! - in the 1970s. Why?

73 de Jim, N2EY



 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 11, 2010, 08:51:46 PM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 10, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,824    (2.3%)
Technician      342,249  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,574  (22.4%)
Advanced         59,428    (8.5%)
Extra              122,765  (17.6%)

Total               695,840

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 30, 2010, 10:13:55 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 29, 2010 was:

Novice:            15,733    (2.3%)
Technician      342,176  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,794  (22.4%)
Advanced         59,399    (8.5%)
Extra              122,955  (17.7%)

Total               696,057

73 es HNY  de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 16, 2011, 10:05:35 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on Januiary 15, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,701    (2.3%)
Technician      342,191  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,885  (22.4%)
Advanced         59,361    (8.5%)
Extra              123,022  (17.7%)

Total               696,160

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 27, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on Januiary 26, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,672    (2.3%)
Technician      342,274  (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          155,991  (22.4%)
Advanced         59,327    (8.5%)
Extra              123,147  (17.7%)

Total               696,411

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KH2BR on January 27, 2011, 04:57:09 PM
Can you do a japanese count for us and place side by side? It would be interesting to know if JA land has more hams then the US.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 27, 2011, 05:31:13 PM
Can you do a japanese count for us and place side by side? It would be interesting to know if JA land has more hams then the US.

The only source of JA license stats I know of is AH0A:

http://www.ah0a.org/AH0A.html

He has statistics from several countries, including the USA. Also notes on how his calculations are done.

However, it's important to know some things about the license rules before comparing numbers, because different countries do some things very differently.

For example, the numbers I post here are the number of current, unexpired FCC-issued amateur licenses held by individuals. They don't include club or other station-only licenses, nor licenses in the grace period.

Some other sources, such as hamdata.com, include licenses in the grace period in their totals. The result is a higher number.

In the USA, you can't get just an amateur operator license; you also get a station license. And all of them expire at the end of their 10 year terms, unless renewed. There are no fees for the license itself; the only fees are for exams and for vanity calls.

Japan has a completely different system. In Japan, operator and station licenses are separate.

Operator licenses are for life, and never need to be renewed. There are four license classes, and when a JA ham upgrades, the old operator license is not cancelled. So a single JA ham may be counted as many as four times. The current JA license system dates from 1952, so when you see the number of operator licenses, what you're seeing is the total number of operator licenses issued since 1952.

JA station licenses expire, and there's a small fee for them. Only a ham who wants his own station and callsign needs a station license. So the number of JA station licenses is far less than the number of operator licenses.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9RO on February 07, 2011, 09:21:17 PM
If the reason for the count is to measure the health of the hobby then I think all these numbers can be very misleading.  Growing numbers if in only one segment of the population such as people over 55 may not be as good as it appears?  What we need to see is the age of those entering the hobby.  If we are growing among the youth (which I doubt) then I would consider that healthy growth extending the longevity of the hobby. 

Tim
www.n9ro.com


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 08, 2011, 02:20:13 AM
What we need to see is the age of those entering the hobby. 

The problem is that the FCC doesn't require birthdate info, and hasn't required it for many years. So there's no way to know how old US hams are as a group.

If we are growing among the youth (which I doubt) then I would consider that healthy growth extending the longevity of the hobby. 

Why does the age of new hams matter?

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KZ2S on February 08, 2011, 05:16:50 AM
Just a little tidbit I thought was interesting, percentage of U.S. population with a Amature radio license is:
0.2%. Thats 1 person per 500, if every ham was active and available, to provide essential communications in a emergency. :o


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9RO on February 08, 2011, 08:56:56 AM
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Why does the age of new hams matter?

I know many will disagree but history has shown youth tends to bring innovation and excitement something our hobby could use.  I recently read a claim stating the average ham is in his/her 60’s, however I don’t know how valid that statement is?  I do know, in my daily operating it appears I age 59 am oftentimes younger than the person I am working.  It would be even more interesting to break down the active ham numbers to age and mode and see if the newer digital modes are where the younger hams are?   If we could identify what area of the hobby the younger hams migrate too then that is where we should focus ham radio recruitment.   Although the numbers of hams appear to be growing if the average age is growing too the forecast is not good.  Just one hams opinion.

73
Tim, N9RO


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 08, 2011, 05:05:59 PM
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Why does the age of new hams matter?

I know many will disagree but history has shown youth tends to bring innovation and excitement something our hobby could use.

Where has history shown this?

If you look at the history of ham radio since at least WW2, it's been mostly the experienced, older hams with lots of resources who have done most of the innovations. SSB, RTTY, FM and repeaters, satellites, PSK31, meteor scatter, EME, SSTV....the list is long.

That's not a put-down of younger hams; it's just the way things usually work.

I recently read a claim stating the average ham is in his/her 60’s, however I don’t know how valid that statement is?

Anybody can make such claims, but there's no real way to back them up because FCC hasn't collected birthdate data on hams for many years.

I see those "average age" claims every so often, too. But the claimers never say how they got their data, nor even what they mean by "average" (median? mean? something else?).

I do know, in my daily operating it appears I age 59 am oftentimes younger than the person I am working.

But that doesn't really tell us much, because the sample is small and unrepresentative.

For example, if you operate during daylight on weekdays, you won't work many younger hams because so many of them are working or in school. If you work mostly 'phone, you'll miss the CW and data ops, and if you don't work 'phone you'll miss the 'phone ops. Same for all the different bands.

It would be even more interesting to break down the active ham numbers to age and mode and see if the newer digital modes are where the younger hams are?   If we could identify what area of the hobby the younger hams migrate too then that is where we should focus ham radio recruitment.

I agree but without accurate age data there's no way to figure it out. Simply assuming that the younger hams would be most likely to use the newest modes isn't valid without real data.


Although the numbers of hams appear to be growing if the average age is growing too the forecast is not good. 

As I said before, we really don't know what the age distribution of hams is today.

Even if we did know, we'd have to compare it to what it was 10, 20, 30 years ago. And we'd have to use the same method of calculation.

What would really be useful is a graph that showed the age of all US hams, so you could see the distribution. Simply citing a single number as "average" doesn't tell much if the distribution is unknown.

It's also important to remember that people are living longer today than ever before. And they're staying active longer. Meanwhile, people are having fewer kids and having them later in life.

Compare the median age of Americans today vs. the median age 10, 20, 30 years ago - it's a rising trend.

I think we should welcome new hams of ALL ages. Young, old, in-between. The more the merrier.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AB2T on February 08, 2011, 06:26:05 PM
Although the numbers of hams appear to be growing if the average age is growing too the forecast is not good. 

I think we should welcome new hams of ALL ages. Young, old, in-between. The more the merrier.

Agreed, Jim.  On another board Keith KB1SF claims that many of the new applicants he examines are older people who put off earning a ham radio license because of code testing.  Keith claims that many people first ask whether or not the code tests are still in effect.  Would an abolition of the code requirement 10, 20, or even 30 years ago have drastically changed the demographic makeup of American ham radio?

Even a reduction of the code requirement to 5 wpm across the board or even 5 wpm for the Extra only might have significantly changed the ham radio demographic.  We'll never know, but it's interesting to speculate on an alternate timelone.

73, Jordan


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9RO on February 09, 2011, 06:48:20 AM
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Where has history shown this?
This has been studied scientifically for over 100 years; I based my opinion on a classic study done by Harvey C. Lehman and the well known Age and Achievement.   Relatively little creative work of  importance is done by persons past 50  Many outside of science have the same feeling, to quote Shakespeare “When the age is in, the wit is out”.   
Quote
That's not a put-down of younger hams; it's just the way things usually work.
Please provide us the scientific study you are referencing?

73
Tim
N9RO



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 09, 2011, 09:48:40 AM
Quote
Where has history shown this?
This has been studied scientifically for over 100 years; I based my opinion on a classic study done by Harvey C. Lehman and the well known Age and Achievement.   Relatively little creative work of  importance is done by persons past 50  Many outside of science have the same feeling, to quote Shakespeare “When the age is in, the wit is out”.   
Quote
That's not a put-down of younger hams; it's just the way things usually work.
Please provide us the scientific study you are referencing?

But those folks are talking about creative WORK. IOW, what people do as a job. And they're talking in general, not about a specific endeavor.

They're not talking about ham radio, which isn't a job, and is a specific endeavor.

If the dividing line is drawn at 50, note that, for most of human history, the vast majority of humans didn't live all that much past 60. (Yes, some did, but look at the life expectancy of Americans over the 20th century for an example of how rare it used to be).

There are also folks like Ben Franklin who kinda bust the curve in all ways.

---

Look at the innovators and creative folks *in amateur radio* and you'll see lots of different age groups represented.

73 de Jim, N2EY





Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 09, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
Although the numbers of hams appear to be growing if the average age is growing too the forecast is not good. 

I think we should welcome new hams of ALL ages. Young, old, in-between. The more the merrier.

Agreed, Jim.  On another board Keith KB1SF claims that many of the new applicants he examines are older people who put off earning a ham radio license because of code testing.  Keith claims that many people first ask whether or not the code tests are still in effect.

Let's consider that one for a moment.

The Technician lost its code test in 1991 - 20 years ago.
The code test for all US amateur license classes requiring one was dropped to 5 wpm in 2000 - 11 years ago - and completely eliminated in 2007 - 4 years ago.

And yet prospective hams are still asking the question? Seems to me we need better publicity.

Would an abolition of the code requirement 10, 20, or even 30 years ago have drastically changed the demographic makeup of American ham radio?

Maybe - but probably not.

In my experience, the people who were least put off by Morse Code testing were the youngest people, and those who were the most against it were the oldest. The 1996 ARRL Readex survey bears this out. A look at the comments, or at posts in forums like this one, bears it out as well.

IOW, the younger newcomers just up and did what was required.

It was also impossible for the code test to have been completely eliminated before 2003 because of the ITU-R treaty, section 25.5. The FCC stated in 1990 and 1999 that they would not eliminate or waive the 5 wpm code test for HF/MF licenses as long as the treaty requirement remained.

Even a reduction of the code requirement to 5 wpm across the board or even 5 wpm for the Extra only might have significantly changed the ham radio demographic.  We'll never know, but it's interesting to speculate on an alternate timelone.

But we do know.

In 1990, the FCC created medical waivers for the 13 and 20 wpm code tests. All it took to get one was a simple note from a doctor - any M.D. or D.O. - stating that the person would take "longer than average" to learn enough to pass 13 or 20 wpm.

How much longer was not specified. There was no requirement to mention the reason, nor did it have to be permanent, or require any kind of treatment. Anyone could write the letter, all the doc had to do was sign it.

What medical waivers did was to effectively eliminate the 13 and 20 wpm code tests for anyone who was willing to write a letter and get a doctor to sign it. VEs I knew in the 1990-2000 time frame said that at least 10% of the hams who tried for General, Advanced and Extra presented letters and got waivers. At some sessions the waiver percentage was much higher.

And note this:

In the 1970s, when the effects of incentive licensing were most pronounced and the license requirements probably the highest, US ham radio experienced fast growth. That growth continued into the 1980s at a somewhat slower rate.

When the medical waivers and nocodetest Tech appeared in the early 1990s, there was a burst of growth. But it didn't last; by 1997 or so the numbers were no longer rising.

The 2000 restructuring brought 3 years of growth, but after 2003 the numbers started down again.

That's all ancient history now.

Since 2007 we've had steady growth. Not enough to keep up with US population growth, but not a decline either. If we haven't already set a new all-time high, we will soon.

Of course the game of reduce-the-license-requirements can only go on for so long. It's similar to how lowering the price of something can bring a burst of sales for a while.
 
IMHO the main reasons for slow growth aren't the license requirements, and never have been. Other factors are the dominant ones, but they're much harder to recognize and even more difficult to change.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AB2T on February 09, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
In my experience, the people who were least put off by Morse Code testing were the youngest people, and those who were the most against it were the oldest. The 1996 ARRL Readex survey bears this out. A look at the comments, or at posts in forums like this one, bears it out as well.

IOW, the younger newcomers just up and did what was required.

I probably shouldn't say this loudly, but some children are more gifted intellectually than others.  I was just lucky enough to have the aptitude to pass all the exams offered when I was a kid.  Your experience is similar, save that you had even more obstacles than I did.  It's true that children are more likely to take to code since most do not labor under the delusion that "code's hard".  Also, language acquisition is easier for children.  Still, while a number of kids in my high school club had Extras, most remained (no code) Techs.  A few  struggled and pass the General.  In sum, perhaps 15% were Extra and most of the rest Techs.  A good yield, but nevertheless demonstrative of the influences of aptitude and motivation in the VE-era pre-restructuring days.  I wonder about the experiences of high-school students that have entered and advanced through the ham ranks after restructuring.   

Of course the game of reduce-the-license-requirements can only go on for so long. It's similar to how lowering the price of something can bring a burst of sales for a while.
 
IMHO the main reasons for slow growth aren't the license requirements, and never have been. Other factors are the dominant ones, but they're much harder to recognize and even more difficult to change.

A comment (http://goo.gl/de6tD) that I responded to on qrz.com illustrates the inevitable "class conflict" that surrounds the restructuring (ugh, Marxist constructs in ham radio forums? should stay away from that).  Blaming DX CW jamming on new operators who are "jealous" of older code-licensed hams is simply irresponsible and even malicious.  Anyone who was an operator before restructuring knows that malicious operators have always been a hallmark of DXpedition pileups.  Similarly, some older hams are peeved that a new ham can pass the Extra and get a W series 1x2 soon after.  Life's too short to worry about these issues of class and status.  The proof is the fist, not whether or not someone can plunk down the VISA for a vanity application.

I also agree that a continual and rapid devaluation of licensing requirements will bring short term gains at the expense of the social fabric of the ham community.  More dominant issues, such as demographics, gender disparity, and ethno-cultural homogenization in the ham community, are intractable for the most part.  It is irrelevant if a person has waited for decades to be a ham because he or she could not or would not master the code.  The formation of a new cohort of courteous operators regardless of entry point trumps individual misgivings about the direction of licensing reforms.  This formation of new operators must take place within a license structure that remains stable for at least a few decades.

73, Jordan         


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 10, 2011, 04:26:16 AM
I probably shouldn't say this loudly, but some children are more gifted intellectually than others.  I was just lucky enough to have the aptitude to pass all the exams offered when I was a kid.  Your experience is similar, save that you had even more obstacles than I did.  It's true that children are more likely to take to code since most do not labor under the delusion that "code's hard". 

Not just code, either. Remember that the written exams have to be passed, and that before 2000 there were five of them required for Extra, rather than today's three.

Also, language acquisition is easier for children.  Still, while a number of kids in my high school club had Extras, most remained (no code) Techs.  A few  struggled and pass the General.  In sum, perhaps 15% were Extra and most of the rest Techs.  A good yield, but nevertheless demonstrative of the influences of aptitude and motivation in the VE-era pre-restructuring days.  I wonder about the experiences of high-school students that have entered and advanced through the ham ranks after restructuring. 

In a recent QST there was an article about hams who had earned scholarships. All of them were high school seniors. The article took a couple of pages to list them all.

It should be remembered that some young folks get their licenses well before high school. The current record for a General is six years old, and seven for the Extra. I suspect that such accomplishments bother some older hams, for some reason.
  

Of course the game of reduce-the-license-requirements can only go on for so long. It's similar to how lowering the price of something can bring a burst of sales for a while.
 
IMHO the main reasons for slow growth aren't the license requirements, and never have been. Other factors are the dominant ones, but they're much harder to recognize and even more difficult to change.

A comment (http://goo.gl/de6tD) that I responded to on qrz.com illustrates the inevitable "class conflict" that surrounds the restructuring (ugh, Marxist constructs in ham radio forums? should stay away from that).  Blaming DX CW jamming on new operators who are "jealous" of older code-licensed hams is simply irresponsible and even malicious.  Anyone who was an operator before restructuring knows that malicious operators have always been a hallmark of DXpedition pileups.  Similarly, some older hams are peeved that a new ham can pass the Extra and get a W series 1x2 soon after.  Life's too short to worry about these issues of class and status.  The proof is the fist, not whether or not someone can plunk down the VISA for a vanity application.

It's been possible to go from no license to Extra in one exam session since the mid-1970s. The present vanity system has been around since the early 1990s, and there were 1x2 sequentials long before that (mine is a sequential call from 1977).

There have always been clueless newer hams who caused QRM and made dumb mistakes. Maybe there were fewer in the old days, maybe there were more, no real way to tell.

What has changed with time is the visibility. In the bad old pre-internet days, if a newbie asked a dumb question, it didn't get very far. Same for a cutting remark by an old-timer. Today, such things can get a very wide online audience.

There's also a sort of "internet forum syndrome" that afflicts a few folks. This is the behavior where, rather than read a book or googling, a person just asks a question and expects a customized answer. The endless discussions of G5RVs and T2FDs are an example.

In any social system there are issues of "class". What matters is how class is defined.

For example, is class determined by knowledge, skill and achievement? Or by conspicuous consumption? Is it simply a matter of time-in-grade, or a matter of how that time is used? Is the top class something anyone can aspire to and reach, by what they do? Etc.

I think what bothers some folks is that the real marks of a high-class radio amateur (courtesy, skill, knowledge) cannot be bought; they can only be earned - regardless of the license class or tests passed.


I also agree that a continual and rapid devaluation of licensing requirements will bring short term gains at the expense of the social fabric of the ham community.  More dominant issues, such as demographics, gender disparity, and ethno-cultural homogenization in the ham community, are intractable for the most part.  It is irrelevant if a person has waited for decades to be a ham because he or she could not or would not master the code.  The formation of a new cohort of courteous operators regardless of entry point trumps individual misgivings about the direction of licensing reforms.  This formation of new operators must take place within a license structure that remains stable for at least a few decades.
        

But the license structure has never been stable for a few decades. At least not in the USA. Look back over the entire 99 year history of Amateur Radio licensing in the USA, and every decade or so there's an upheaval in the license requirements.

For example:

The pre-WW1 system was interrupted by the war, and what came back afterwards was different.

The 1920s saw the radical changes from 200 meter spark to the short-waves, international regulations and broadcasting.

The 1930s brought the FRC, FCC and the ABC system.

The 1940s had the interruption of WW2.

The 1950s brought the Novice, Tech and Extra in the 1951 restructuring, shortly followed by the 1953 Generals-get-all giveaway.

The 1960s brought incentive licensing, which was most strongly felt in the 1970s.

The 1980s brought the VE system, Bash books, 10 year licenses and CSCEs.

The 1990s brought medical waivers, a nocodetest license, a new vanity program and the 2000 restructuring.

Those are just the high points; if you look carefully at the history there are even more changes that seemed small at the time but had big effects. For example, the CSCE system meant that a ham could upgrade one test at a time, focusing all their effort on a single test element until it was passed. Which changed the game somewhat.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 17, 2011, 04:14:50 PM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 16, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,595    (2.2%)
Technician      342,263  (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          156,140  (22.4%)
Advanced         59,218    (8.5%)
Extra              123,276  (17.7%)

Total               696,492

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on February 18, 2011, 10:19:08 AM
But those folks are talking about creative WORK. IOW, what people do as a job. And they're talking in general, not about a specific endeavor.

They're not talking about ham radio, which isn't a job, and is a specific endeavor.

If the dividing line is drawn at 50, note that, for most of human history, the vast majority of humans didn't live all that much past 60. (Yes, some did, but look at the life expectancy of Americans over the 20th century for an example of how rare it used to be).
There are also folks like Ben Franklin who kinda bust the curve in all ways.

Look at the innovators and creative folks *in amateur radio* and you'll see lots of different age groups represented.

Older and younger hams all bring something to the table. A middle-aged ham (I) who has worked as a communications EE for 25 years brings a great deal of collective wisdom but I may not be the furious (midnight coder) writing the latest replacement for WSPR but I could design a super selective receiver for that purpose.

The folks who have been 'round a long time can sometimes just look at a setup and say "that ain't gonna work". They may not be able to give you all of the theoretical reasons for why that is the case but they probably went down that road before and are speaking from experience going back 40 years.

Younger folks may love to go out and do tornado spotting, emergency nets or have a software defined radio. This does not make them any less a ham than the 70 year old who still owns a stockpile of tubes for his ARC-5 transmitter.

This hobby should be drawing it's strength from the wide cross section of experiences and talents. I was surprised to see a recent eHam posting about a young woman who made a fabric covered Yagi antenna that looks like a fashion accessory. That is just as valid as the folks who get out there with converted military gear.

Yes, probably, the age demographic of ham radio operators is increasing. So is the life expectancy of the average American. When we get older we tend to have more disposable income, until we hit retirement and usually have more disposable free time to dedicate to the hobby.

Watching my father work a 2 meter phone patch from our car after we broke down on a back-road in 1974 was amazing to me. Wondering what he was doing with all of that 1/4" copper tubing and PVC pipe to make odd looking antennas for our roof was entertaining. All of those things contributed to amateur radio and drove my interest into radio engineering.

Tisha Hayes


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on February 19, 2011, 10:52:00 AM
Flipping through the numbers over the past few months it is interesting to see the very gradual roll-off on novice and advanced OP's. I can see where advanced licenses will be around much longer. Not just because of the numbers, but if you are an amateur who went through the trouble of going that far you are less likely to give it up.

I have tried to engage a few of the novices to see if they wanted to upgrade their licenses to pick up more privileges but many say "oh, I have not been on the air for X number of years". I do not know what the success rate would be in bringing these folks up to a general class license.

I would like to see the ARRL do some sort of mass mailing to all of the novice class licensees, informing them of how easy it would be for them to upgrade to general. If we do nothing, many of those numbers will continue to decline.

While the ARRL sends out lots of information to members (every week or two I get another letter from them on this or that) they do very little for the non-members, many of whom have dropped out of the hobby as their licenses gradually expire.

Novice to General would be an easy argument to make.
Advanced to Extra is filled with too much emotion regarding old breed vs. new breed and should just be left alone.

The large number of tech licenses are not a bad thing. It is not as if we do not have enough general, advanced and extra licenses to keep the HF bands alive. I would think that we may see a slight decline over time in tech licenses as some of the  the post 9/11 EMCOMM folks do not renew. If that is going to happen it should be visible with a dipping off of tech licenses about a year from now as the 10 year terms are expiring and some of those folks have moved on with other interests.

Tisha Hayes


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 19, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Flipping through the numbers over the past few months it is interesting to see the very gradual roll-off on novice and advanced OP's. I can see where advanced licenses will be around much longer. Not just because of the numbers, but if you are an amateur who went through the trouble of going that far you are less likely to give it up.

Agreed! There are some other factors:

1) The difference in privileges between an Advanced and an Extra isn't all that great unless you are interested in certain specific parts of ham radio. What I mean by this is that all the Advanced-to-Extra upgrade gives is some small parts of a couple of HF bands, and a few more choices of vanity call. If an Advanced isn't really interested in those particular things, why bother?

OTOH, a Novice can get a lot more privileges by upgrading to any other license class. I suspect that those Novices who are/were really interested upgraded long ago.

2) As you have probably noticed in other threads, some folks want to hang on to their Advanced for various reasons involving the testing and other factors. (For example, having an Advanced proves you've been a ham since at least April 2000).

3) Also as you have probably noticed in other threads, there are occasional rumors/proposals/shouldas about free no-test upgrades, rules changes, etc.

For example, some years back, QCWA formally proposed to FCC that all Generals and Advanceds who earned those licenses before Nov. 22 1968 should get full privileges and/or a free upgrade to Extra. Of course FCC said no.

I suspect that if there's even a chance of a free upgrade, some hams will put off upgrading in the hopes that it will happen. 

I have tried to engage a few of the novices to see if they wanted to upgrade their licenses to pick up more privileges but many say "oh, I have not been on the air for X number of years". I do not know what the success rate would be in bringing these folks up to a general class license.

I would like to see the ARRL do some sort of mass mailing to all of the novice class licensees, informing them of how easy it would be for them to upgrade to general. If we do nothing, many of those numbers will continue to decline.

While the ARRL sends out lots of information to members (every week or two I get another letter from them on this or that) they do very little for the non-members, many of whom have dropped out of the hobby as their licenses gradually expire.

I think the more important question is why those Novices, and other hams of all license classes, are inactive. Particularly after the rules changes of 2000 and 2007 which greatly reduced the license test requirements - particularly the written tests.

I think we need to know the real reasons in order to craft a response.

For example, back in the 1980s and 1990s I saw a lot of folks get ham licenses for personal communications. They'd use the local repeaters for family comms, autopatch, emergencies, etc. Sometimes whole families got licensed at once, with sequential calls.

Some became interested in other aspects of amateur radio, some didn't. Nothing at all wrong with that; 99.99% were good hams and nice people.

But as cell phones became ubiquitous and cheap, many drifted away. The cell did they personal-comms job better most of the time, so it became the default.

I suspect this is one reason we saw a decline in our numbers in the late 1990s.

Another factor is that setting up an amateur radio station (beyond a handheld) can be quite a challenge for a lot of folks due to their living situation.

Novice to General would be an easy argument to make.
Advanced to Extra is filled with too much emotion regarding old breed vs. new breed and should just be left alone.

Novice to General requires passing just two 35 question written tests. Not a big deal, really.

The large number of tech licenses are not a bad thing. It is not as if we do not have enough general, advanced and extra licenses to keep the HF bands alive. I would think that we may see a slight decline over time in tech licenses as some of the  the post 9/11 EMCOMM folks do not renew. If that is going to happen it should be visible with a dipping off of tech licenses about a year from now as the 10 year terms are expiring and some of those folks have moved on with other interests.

One reason there are so many Techs is that, after April 15, 2000, the FCC reclassified all Tech Pluses as Tech at renewal. There were almost 130,000 Tech Pluses in early 2000, and the last one disappeared from the current license totals last year.

However, if you look at the combined Tech/Tech Plus numbers, you'll see that the percentage of US hams with those license has decreased a little. At the peak, some years back, their numbers accounted for 49.5% of US hams; now they're down to 49.1%. Meanwhile the percentage of hams with General and Extra has steadily increased.

Soon we will reach the point where fewer than 10% of US hams hold one of the closed-off license classes (Novice or Advanced).

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 15, 2011, 09:24:54 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 14, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,483    (2.2%)
Technician      342,155  (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General           156,600  (22.4%)
Advanced         59,090    (8.5%)
Extra              123,604  (17.7%)

Total              696,932

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KH6AQ on March 15, 2011, 10:17:43 AM
I think we need input from K6LHA.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 19, 2011, 08:34:59 PM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 18, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,466    (2.2%)
Technician      342,242  (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          156,704  (22.5%)
Advanced         59,056    (8.5%)
Extra              123,650  (17.7%)

Total              697,118

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 03, 2011, 05:32:38 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 2, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,428    (2.2%)
Technician      342,184  (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          156,895  (22.5%)
Advanced         58,968    (8.5%)
Extra              123,854  (17.8%)

Total              697,329

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 17, 2011, 03:45:46 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 16, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,360    (2.2%)
Technician      342,289  (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          157,212  (22.5%)
Advanced         58,921    (8.4%)
Extra              124,071  (17.8%)

Total              697,853

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 26, 2011, 09:23:36 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 25, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,316    (2.2%)
Technician      342,206  (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          157,392  (22.6%)
Advanced         58,887    (8.4%)
Extra              124,161  (17.8%)

Total              697,962

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 01, 2011, 04:21:35 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 30, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,283    (2.2%)
Technician      342,106  (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          157,558  (22.6%)
Advanced         58,832    (8.4%)
Extra              124,214  (17.8%)

Total              697,993

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Also, from

http://www.hamdata.com/fccinfo.html

comes news of a new all-time high in FCC license database totals.

That webpage lists the total number of entries in the FCC amateur license database, including licenses that are expired but in the grace period, licenses held by clubs, etc. As a result the totals are somewhat higher than those of the ARRL count.

For more than 7 years the hamdata site has listed the all-time high as occurring on July 2, 2003, when the total reached  737,938. That old record number was exceeded on April 27, 2011, when the total reached 737,948. The new all-time high per hamdata.com is 738,105, as of April 29.

So whether you consider the number of individuals with current unexpired licenses, or the total number of entries in the database, the number of US amateur licenses in increasing steadily.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KD8DEY on May 03, 2011, 04:19:06 PM
When we hit a million maybe everybody can chip in 2cents and send the licensee their 1st rig  :)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 05, 2011, 03:21:43 PM
When we hit a million maybe everybody can chip in 2cents and send the licensee their 1st rig  :)

At the current rate it will be 20-25 years before we get to a million US hams.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 22, 2011, 01:17:36 PM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 21, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,201    (2.2%)
Technician      341,710  (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          158,017  (22.6%)
Advanced         58,725    (8.4%)
Extra              124,458  (17.8%)

Total              698,111

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 12, 2011, 05:23:40 AM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 11, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,120    (2.2%)
Technician      341,905  (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          158,511  (22.7%)
Advanced         58,666    (8.4%)
Extra              124,706  (17.8%)

Total              698,908

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AE6ZW on June 17, 2011, 11:34:54 AM
it is good that licensed ham are increasing.  I am glad that more people are enjoying this hobby.  hope , we can keep new people interested.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 22, 2011, 04:36:40 PM
Updated numbers from:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 21, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,104    (2.2%)
Technician      341,676  (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          158,814  (22.7%)
Advanced         58,630    (8.4%)
Extra              124,825  (17.8%)

Total              699,049

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 03, 2011, 05:57:48 AM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 1, 2011 was:

Novice:            15,059    (2.2%)
Technician      341,334  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,217  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,564    (8.4%)
Extra              124,944  (17.9%)

Total              699,118

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 22, 2011, 05:50:48 AM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 21, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,998    (2.1%)
Technician      341,403  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,433  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,510    (8.4%)
Extra              125,071  (17.9%)

Total              699,415

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 02, 2011, 07:11:08 PM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 1, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,951    (2.1%)
Technician      341,276  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,435  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,443    (8.4%)
Extra              125,133  (17.9%)

Total              699,238

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KB1SF on August 16, 2011, 07:42:23 AM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

Total              699,238

73 de Jim, N2EY


As opposed to 699,425 last month, 699,118 the month before that and 699,049 the month before that.  

"Solid, steady growth"?   NOT!

Perhaps the coming downturn that those who know about such things and have long predicted (as opposed to those who keep myopically harping that "we just keep on growing") has now begun.

Indeed, it will be interesting to see just how much our rate of growth has slacked off this year (2011) as compared to last year (2010) and the year before that (2009).

According to the latest published reports by the ARRL VEC, the largest influx of new hams in the United States in recent memory occurred back in 2009.  However, our rate of growth in the United States since that time has started to once again go negative.  And God only knows how many more of us still have licenses but haven't transmitted on the ham bands in a dog's age!

Indeed, if all we are now attracting are aging "oldsters" (again, according to the ARRL VEC, the average age of newcomers to our Service are predominantly 40 and 50 year-olds) ..it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that, sooner or later we are eventually going to run out of  people in that demographic to replenish those of us who are now dying in ever-increasing numbers.  

Unfortunately, that's exactly what the ARRL's "newly licensed ham" demographics seem to now indicate.  The "pent up demand" for new licenses now that the Morse testing nonsense has gone away has largely cleared and our "newly licensed ham" numbers are, once again, on their way back down again.  

If that trend continues, at some point, the number of users in our Service will become so small that we will be unable to justify our continued access to our frequencies.  And once we loose access to our frequencies for lack of use, all these silly arguments over whether (or not) we should be tested for Morse or that only those who construct their equipment from scratch are "real hams" will all become quite moot.

By then, I predict our precious frequencies will have been taken away from us and given over to someone else.  And, without access to our frequencies, our hobby dies.

Now, I certainly hope I'm dead wrong in all of these predictions.  

However, unless these trends quickly reverse themselves and we start attracting (and keeping) far greater numbers of youthful newcomers to replace those of us who are now aging and dying in ever-increasing numbers, my fear is that my predictions are probably going to be proven right.

However, only time will tell.

73,

Keith
KB1SF / VA3KSF


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 25, 2011, 01:04:51 PM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 24, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,904    (2.1%)
Technician      341,318  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,539  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,364    (8.3%)
Extra              125,369  (17.9%)

Total              699,494

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on August 26, 2011, 06:00:43 AM
Indeed, if all we are now attracting are aging "oldsters" (again, according to the ARRL VEC, the average age of newcomers to our Service are predominantly 40 and 50 year-olds) ..it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that, sooner or later we are eventually going to run out of  people in that demographic to replenish those of us who are now dying in ever-increasing numbers.  
How are we going to run out of the 40 and 50 year old demographic? That number is constantly being refreshed by an influx of people who are currently in the 30 year old demographic today.

Unfortunately, that's exactly what the ARRL's "newly licensed ham" demographics seem to now indicate.  The "pent up demand" for new licenses now that the Morse testing nonsense has gone away has largely cleared and our "newly licensed ham" numbers are, once again, on their way back down again.
Untrue, if this was the case then you would see decreasing numbers of folks who are earning their technician license in decline. The drop in numbers is primarily in novice and advanced class licensees.

If that trend continues, at some point, the number of users in our Service will become so small that we will be unable to justify our continued access to our frequencies.
You cannot look at just a few data points and make a trend out of that. "That way leads to insanity" and is similar to the unbridled optimism or doom and gloom predictions of folks who watch the hourly report on the stock market to make long term forecasts.

By then, I predict our precious frequencies will have been taken away from us and given over to someone else.  And, without access to our frequencies, our hobby dies.
Underutilized bandwidth "should" be recycled to other services. Look at how we have done such a great job with the 1.25 meter band. The 33 cm band is saturated with ISM operations and is pretty much useless. "Use it or lose it". Right now it is all about "whitespace", a few years ago it was about BPL.

However, unless these trends quickly reverse themselves and we start attracting (and keeping) far greater numbers of youthful newcomers to replace those of us who are now aging and dying in ever-increasing numbers, my fear is that my predictions are probably going to be proven right.
If even 1/4th of the amateur operators out there found one person a year who they decided to mentor/elmer you would see our numbers dramatically jump up. There is a lack of leadership from the ARRL and clubs and most of the amateurs who are older and are retired with spare time do not make any effort to recruit a younger audience.

The only recruiting I have seen is from amateurs who want to bring in people of their own demographic.

Want to do something completely radical? Someone should write a course syllabus that can be taught in community colleges on amateur radio. Successful completion of the course would include testing for the technician and general class license. There is precedence as there are other certificated programs (nursing, EMT, CNA/CNE) where course completion concludes in certification testing. Let the ARRL come up with a comprehensive course to include more than just memorizing the question and answer pool and goes into all of the aspects of amateur radio operation from operating practices, the law, technology, homebrewing, theory, etc... Do not make it into another EMCOMM program (just tiring and attracts only a certain crowd). Let community college students earn a credit or two for the course. Use qualified amateur radio operators and educators "team teach" the classes.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA1NUI on August 31, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
interesting thread.  i used to hear the same talk years ago about restructuring, etc.  and years ago (before my time) there were similar discussions regarding eliminating the old Class A license and making those folks Advanced Class holders.  ditto the discussions about how to bring in young people into the hobby.  of course, back then, we didn't have internet, etc. - i was a big SWL'er too, but nowadays, with internet radio, i just don't see a need for it.  sure, heaven forbid hurricane irene would have totally knocked out all our communications systems (though it wouldn't have affected satellites, i guess), but even then, that end of things really didn't attract me to the hobby.  probably it was just a fun thing to do as a nerdy young kid - travelling vicariously and dx'ing with my beat up old heathkit dx-40 and blowing power tubes right and left because i didn't know what the heck i was doing :)   but i digress ...

i think a lot of folks are qrt simply because that's the direction their lives takes them. people move around, and people's priorities just change.  while there was always a sense of community, more or less, amongst hams back in the day, the reality is that, in the end, it is a highly individual activity - put on some headphones and you're basically blocking out the real world immediately around you (sound like internet addicts today?:))   

i was first licensed in 1970, have been an amateur extra for about the last 40 years, and have been QRT almost that long as well.  i still keep my license active, lord knows why, as i don't intend to go on the air again, but then, i still keep my first class radiotelegraph op's license and US coast guard radio officer's license active as well, though i have no intention of going to sea again either.   i was one of those luddites, and still am, who didn't want to see the code exam be eliminated, but then again, i always found the code part easier than the technical end of the exam.   to each his own, i guess.

i never did forget the code, and could probably still do 20-25 wpm without a problem, but again, don't intend to.  so maybe i just keep my licenses out of nostalgia or something.  never did want to change my boring call sign either :)   

to be honest, i'm astounded there are so many licensed hams out there - i personally don't know any where i work, or among the many folks i meet on my travels, but the numbers can't lie. 

well, i'm rambling; again, i find this thread interesting - le plus ca change, le plus ca reste la meme chose :)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 02, 2011, 03:12:56 PM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 1, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,875    (2.1%)
Technician      341,305  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,574  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,322    (8.3%)
Extra              125,421  (17.9%)

Total              699,497

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KB1SF on September 09, 2011, 08:01:34 AM
How are we going to run out of the 40 and 50 year old demographic? That number is constantly being refreshed by an influx of people who are currently in the 30 year old demographic today.

Perhaps.

But would you please explain what motivation a tecvh-savvy 20 or 30 year old of TODAY...you know those persons who now routinely use I-Pads and I-Phones, and who "tweet" regularly via such things as Twitter and Facebook...are going to have to want to join our ranks when they get to be 40 or 50 years old...particularly when all we still insist on offering up as our "mainstream" modes of communication are Morse code, SSB and analog FM voice?

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if this was the case then you would see decreasing numbers of folks who are earning their technician license in decline. The drop in numbers is primarily in novice and advanced class licensees.

Not according to the numbers I'm seeing coming out of the ARRL VEC these days.  

The truth is that the number of "new hams" of ALL license classes added to our ranks in the United States peaked in 2009 and has been headed downward ever since.

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You cannot look at just a few data points and make a trend out of that. "That way leads to insanity" and is similar to the unbridled optimism or doom and gloom predictions of folks who watch the hourly report on the stock market to make long term forecasts.

Agreed.

But, by the same token, the disturbing downward trend in new licensees I've noted above should still be cause for alarm.  

And when was the last time that YOU were actually on the air?  With the possible exception of 75 Meters and contest weekends, my personal observation is that our HF bands seem to be dead from end to end these days.  Now, I know propagation hasn't been all that great lately, but I also recall our HF bands being FAR busier in past years than they are today.  

And when was the last time you attended a major hamfest and counted all the expanding waistlines and graying (or balding) heads wandering around therein?  

My estimate is that the average age of a person attending the Dayton Hamvention this year was late 50s or early 60s. Another sad testament at Dayton this year was the large number of people moving around in "scooter" chairs...more so than I recall in all the years (going back to 1977) that I've attended Hamvention.  Indeed, the "scooter" concession at Dayton this year was doing a land-office business.  I find it telling that when I first attended Hamvention, they didn't even HAVE a "scooter" concessionaire!

And while all such data is, admittedly, anecdotal, nevertheless, it suggests to me that our hobby simply isn't attracting today's youth in the same numbers that it was when you and I first got our licenses.  And it's those people (us aging oldsters) who now make up the bulk of the population of the hobby.  

But, clearly, as our generation continues to age and die without also being replaced by youthful "new blood" it will most certainly impact our continuing ability to hang onto our frequencies going forward. Just how much of an impact that rapidly aging and dying demographic will have over time remains to be seen.  

Unfortunately, when the bureaucrats and politicians who decide such things ultimately decide who gets what access to which parts of the radio spectrum, "quantity" has a "quality" all its own.  And, as I've repeatedly said, without continued access to our frequencies, our hobby dies.  

It's that simple.

So, once again, I suggest we all make a date to meet here in 10-15 year's time and see who got it right.  

73,

Keith
KB1SF / VA3KSF


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 09, 2011, 09:03:13 AM
But would you please explain what motivation a tecvh-savvy 20 or 30 year old of TODAY...you know those persons who now routinely use I-Pads and I-Phones, and who "tweet" regularly via such things as Twitter and Facebook...are going to have to want to join our ranks when they get to be 40 or 50 years old...particularly when all we still insist on offering up as our "mainstream" modes of communication are Morse code, SSB and analog FM voice?
Today's "20 or 30 year old" won't be "40 or 50 years old" for another 20 years. Why do you presume that when that happens, 20 years from now, "we [will] still insist on offering up as our "mainstream" modes of communication ... Morse code, SSB and analog FM voice"? Someone could have made that same statement in 1985, and now we can (and do) offer PSK31, JT65 and numerous other "sound card" modes (made possible by the improvements in personal computers), messaging like APRS, digital voice like D-STAR, and I'm sure others that I haven't thought of (or don't know about), in addition to the "mainstream" modes (which continue to be popular). 
And when was the last time that YOU were actually on the air?
Monday. 20/30/40m PSK. The 20m PSK subband has been quite busy in the evenings recently.   

So, once again, I suggest we all make a date to meet here in 10-15 year's time and see who got it right.
Deal.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W5ESE on September 09, 2011, 11:24:19 AM
But would you please explain what motivation a tecvh-savvy 20 or 30 year old of TODAY...you know those persons who now routinely use I-Pads and I-Phones, and who "tweet" regularly via such things as Twitter and Facebook...are going to have to want to join our ranks when they get to be 40 or 50 years old...particularly when all we still insist on offering up as our "mainstream" modes of communication are Morse code, SSB and analog FM voice?


Maybe because they're unlikely to experience sporadic E, skew, or scatter on an iPad or iPhone?

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And while all such data is, admittedly, anecdotal, nevertheless, it suggests to me that our hobby simply isn't attracting today's youth in the same numbers that it was when you and I first got our licenses.  And it's those people (us aging oldsters) who now make up the bulk of the population of the hobby.

I was licensed as a 14 year old near the end of 1975.

Most new licensees back then, by far, were middle-aged or older.

Several of the folks from my Novice class are SK now.

But there are still about twice as many hams today as there were in 1975.

73
Scott W5ESE


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 09, 2011, 08:15:03 PM
AA5JG & W5ESE, you both nailed it.

I will add just a few small things:

1) It's not that most people aren't interested in "radio", it's that most people aren't interested in "radio for its own sake". They care about what it does, not how it's done. Hams care about the doing more than the content.

2) I've been a ham since 1967 and the gloom and doom were old hat then:

- They said SSB would be the end of ham radio. Too complicated for most homebrewing, sounded awful, SWLs couldn't understand it at all, and it cost too much.

- They said "incentive licensing" would be the end because the average ham couldn't pass the tests.

- They said cb would be the end because nobody would bother with a license.

- They said Japanese/miniature/solid-state gear would be the end because it was too small and complex. 

- They said the counterculture, oil crisis, small cars, FM and repeaters, computers, inflation and condos would be the end of ham radio.

- They said Bash books, VECs, Technicians, autopatches, cell phones, the internet and Gen X would be the end.

And yet, here we are.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AB2T on September 10, 2011, 02:25:25 AM
How are we going to run out of the 40 and 50 year old demographic? That number is constantly being refreshed by an influx of people who are currently in the 30 year old demographic today.

Perhaps.

But would you please explain what motivation a tecvh-savvy 20 or 30 year old of TODAY...you know those persons who now routinely use I-Pads and I-Phones, and who "tweet" regularly via such things as Twitter and Facebook...are going to have to want to join our ranks when they get to be 40 or 50 years old...particularly when all we still insist on offering up as our "mainstream" modes of communication are Morse code, SSB and analog FM voice?

As young people say, FAIL!

I am an amateur linux scripter who will immediately pick up the key again when I move out of the apartment blocks and back to a place with natural green carpet (still stationless by necessity).  Do I not count?  Should I hate CW because I enjoy bash shell scripting and programming in general?  The avocations are mutually exclusive.

Keith, the world champion very high speed CW operator is a twenty-something.  I'm just in my thirties, and I'm a few years shy of my 20th ham anniversary.  Both he and I got started in ham radio very early on in life.  The earlier a person starts in the hobby, the greater the chance he or she will be receptive to CW or ham radio in general.  The goal is to get people interested as early as possible.  Computer proficiency or lack thereof is quite irrelevant.  The cultivation of intelligent or very intelligent operators is paramount.

Intelligent people will always gravitate to CW, just as many of the most intelligent passionately take up the cognitive-spatial challenge of chess or exercise similar cognitive and intellectual abilities by taking up a musical instrument.  Not everyone will appreciate CW, but the hams that do will be the stellar operators.    

As Jim said,

1) It's not that most people aren't interested in "radio", it's that most people aren't interested in "radio for its own sake". They care about what it does, not how it's done. Hams care about the doing more than the content.

There will always be new hams interested in radio ars gratia artis.  We need to capture them before you and other naysayers convince them that CW is out of date or difficult.

Twitter and Facebook will come and go, but Morse and Vail have weathered the test of time.

73, Jordan


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KB1SF on September 10, 2011, 06:45:48 AM
There will always be new hams interested in radio ars gratia artis. We need to capture them before you and other naysayers convince them that CW is out of date or difficult.

The question is whether (or not) we will be able to capture enough of "them" going forward to offset the increasing number of "us" who are now rapidly ageing and dying...or who have otherwise lost all interest in the hobby.  

Right now, that isn't happening.

It is also quite apparent that YOU haven't actually heard the increasing silence on our bands lately, either.  So, before you and others continue "shooting the messenger", perhaps you should first tune across the bands for yourselves and honestly report on what YOU are hearing on our bands as compared with just a decade or so ago.

As I've said, OUR hobby, unlike many others, relies on faceless politicians and bureaucrats to grant us continued access to scarce frequency spectrum in order for our hobby to even exist.  And it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that without that continued access, our "hobby" dies.

And the truth you and others here seem to want to continually deny is that the world we live in is increasingly relying on digital communications techniques.  I can envision any number of digital techniques and applications (such as spread spectrum, to cite just one example) that would prove to be utterly incompatible with most of the current analog modes that we desperately cling to.

Indeed, my retired FCC staffer contact tells me the "everyone in their own slice of spectrum" way we are currently being regulated is, itself, evolving into a much broader approach where frequency spectrum is shared among multiple services using, for example, advanced digital multiplexing techniques.

In the grand scheme of things, the technologically ancient analog modes we routinely use (AM, FM, CW and SSB) are fast becoming little more than hold-out relics of an ever-more-distant past.  They are fast being replaced by a whole plethora of new communications modes, some of which are still evolving, but most of which are absolutely incompatible with the largely analog modes we are using now.  

Unless we can quickly drag our hobby out of the sociological and technological 1950s, (and then "clean up our act"), I believe that we (and our Service) are ultimately headed for the trash heap of technological history, much like wind-up watches, pulse dial telephones and analog TV sets.  

Indeed, most of the so-called "modern" communications equipment we still use today in our Service probably belongs in a museum.

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Twitter and Facebook will come and go, but Morse and Vail have weathered the test of time.

But, as the old saying goes, "The times they are a changin'."

That's because portable digital electronic communication devices (like the IPod, IPhone and IPad) are here to stay....as is the Internet itself. Unlike in times past, when amateur radio was the ONLY personal wireless medium (besides the portable telephone which only the very rich could afford), the youth of today now have INNUMERABLE ways to communicate wirelessly.  I also find it telling that most of these modern advanced wireless communication concepts (and devices) were all invented OUTSIDE of the crucible of Amateur Radio.

And whether we like it or not, internationally, one of the expectations of those who grant us continued access to our frequencies is for us to carry on "technical investigations".  The FCC has further defined those "investigations" to include "advancing the state of the communications art".  

When we stop doing that...and I believe we largely have stopped doing that by desperately clinging to arcane 1950s-era regulations and communications technologies as the "gold standard" by which all experimentation in our Service must still be measured...we run the very real risk of our spectrum being taken away from us and given over to someone else who will.

73,

Keith
KB1SF / VA3KSF


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 10, 2011, 07:03:36 AM
Twitter and Facebook will come and go, but Morse and Vail have weathered the test of time.

Before there was Facebook (founded 2004) there was Myspace (founded 2003). For a time Myspace was *the* dominant social network site, but in the past few years it has declined precipitously while Facebook continues to grow.

Some say that Facebook will eventually jump the shark and/or be replaced by something else.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 15, 2011, 09:01:43 AM

Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 14, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,849    (2.1%)
Technician      341,317  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,626  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,278    (8.3%)
Extra              125,468  (17.9%)

Total              699,538

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 15, 2011, 03:49:59 PM
I am surprised at how many Novice licenses there still are.

Me too!

When the FCC stopped issuing new Novice licenses 11 years ago, there were about 50,000 of them. Since a license term is 10 years, and the totals don't show grace-period licenses, all of the 14,000+ in the current totals renewed since then.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AB2T on September 16, 2011, 04:16:45 AM
I am surprised at how many Novice licenses there still are.

When the FCC stopped issuing new Novice licenses 11 years ago, there were about 50,000 of them. Since a license term is 10 years, and the totals don't show grace-period licenses, all of the 14,000+ in the current totals renewed since then.

I suspect that many Novices never really get on the air.  Walter Cronkite never went past Novice, and I know of at least one past university president (e.g. Columbia, in the 70's) who earned a Novice but to my knowledge was never active.  I suspect that the Novice was sometimes earned by administrators, noted journalists, and others in the public eye as a token recognition and promotion of ham radio.  That does not begin to explain the large number of Novices still on the books.  Furthermore, it's surprising that many Novices have renewed.  This phenomenon is quite baffling.    

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OT:

When I started out as a ham, I was encouraged to go for the Tech Plus out of the box so that I could practice CW on HF and also get on the club repeater.  I followed my Elmers' advice and did so.  In retrospect, I wisely spent most of the next two years on HF and worked my code up to 20, but also kept in touch with my Elmers and other club members by FM.  The Tech Plus was a superior substitute for the traditional Novice training license.  I wonder how many new hams in the early to mid 90's were encouraged to skip the Novice given its meagre frequency allotments.  

What if the FCC abolished the Novice in the late 70's/early 80's and replaced the Novice with the "Communicator Class", perhaps also as a trial run in VEC examination?  Jim would know better, but did the proposed Communicator Class allow all of 2m and 70cm without the 5 WPM test?  If so, we might've pre-empted the early 90's no code/know code ham ideological war, or at least have muted its ferocity.  After all, time has shown that most hams start out with V/UHF FM repeater communications.  Perhaps this was already apparent by the late 70's.  If so, the FCC should have introduced the Communicator Class then rather than drag the issue out past the introduction of the VEC.  Also, the Comm. Class license would have reduced the written exams to four.  Perhaps a Communicator could've earned Novice CW HF privileges by passing the 5 WPM.  This would not have changed the existing Technician/General combined exam except that a person who earned the Communicator + 5 WPM would simply need to pass the Tech/General written exam to get all privileges above 50 MHz.

Actually, I am convinced that the FCC's gesture towards no-code licensing was an early sign that the commission desired to get out of the examination business at least in part.  That suspicion is irrelevant to the question at hand.  Still, not long after the Communicator proposal the FCC indeed turned exams over to the VEC.  One wonders.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 16, 2011, 10:02:28 AM
I suspect that many Novices never really get on the air....I suspect that the Novice was sometimes earned by administrators, noted journalists, and others in the public eye as a token recognition and promotion of ham radio.  That does not begin to explain the large number of Novices still on the books.  Furthermore, it's surprising that many Novices have renewed.  This phenomenon is quite baffling.

Not IMHO. Here's why:

First off, by the 1990s the number of Novices was quite small compared to the total number of US hams. Today only about 1 in 50 US hams is a Novice. Second, many of those with Novice licenses may be members of ham families who got it to be part of the group, and hams who intend to become active once they retire/kids leave home/work lets up a little/they move etc. Reading QSTs old and new, as well as knowing many local hams, there are plenty of cases of hams who were gone from ham radio except for the license for years or decades, and then came back.

Most of all we don't really know who is on the air and who isn't.

The odd thing about the Novice today is that it conveys no test-element-credit towards upgrading.
     
When I started out as a ham, I was encouraged to go for the Tech Plus out of the box so that I could practice CW on HF and also get on the club repeater.  I followed my Elmers' advice and did so.  In retrospect, I wisely spent most of the next two years on HF and worked my code up to 20, but also kept in touch with my Elmers and other club members by FM.  The Tech Plus was a superior substitute for the traditional Novice training license.  I wonder how many new hams in the early to mid 90's were encouraged to skip the Novice given its meagre frequency allotments.

That trend was in place in the 1980s. It got a big boost in March 1987 when the Tech/General written was split in two parts. Novices couldn't use 2 or 440, Techs could use both - and that's where the repeaters were.

In the bad old days most hams started as Novices on HF CW - usually 80 or 40 meters - with simple gear. Just getting on the air was a serious project. Usually the new ham went through several steps: build/buy HF receiver with simple antenna, learn code and theory (with practice oscillator, key and some books), put up better antenna, pass license tests, build/buy transmitter while waiting for license, get on air when license arrived. A lot of practical radio that wasn't on any test was learned in the process. Until the 1970s the Novice was a short-term one-time upgrade-or-leave-the-air license, so newcomers had a big incentive to get everything ready before the license arrived.
 
What if the FCC abolished the Novice in the late 70's/early 80's and replaced the Novice with the "Communicator Class", perhaps also as a trial run in VEC examination?  Jim would know better, but did the proposed Communicator Class allow all of 2m and 70cm without the 5 WPM test?

I don't think so. The Communicator was first proposed in 1975 and was a companion to the Novice, not a replacement.

we might've pre-empted the early 90's no code/know code ham ideological war, or at least have muted its ferocity.  After all, time has shown that most hams start out with V/UHF FM repeater communications.  Perhaps this was already apparent by the late 70's.  If so, the FCC should have introduced the Communicator Class then rather than drag the issue out past the introduction of the VEC.

I have to disagree on all counts.

The 1970s were the peak of the cb boom, and most hams then were trying to prevent ham radio from becoming like cb. Besides the clear memory of the loss of 11 meters, there were proposals to turn 220-225 into a new cb band as well ("Class E").

Hams of the day saw any proposal to make licenses much easier to get as the road to turning ham radio into cb - and a very bad thing. It didn't take much of an imagination to envision huge numbers of cb folks getting Communicator licenses and bringing the cb culture with them. The number of US hams was growing very quickly in the 1970s and 1980s, too.

the Comm. Class license would have reduced the written exams to four.  Perhaps a Communicator could've earned Novice CW HF privileges by passing the 5 WPM.  This would not have changed the existing Technician/General combined exam except that a person who earned the Communicator + 5 WPM would simply need to pass the Tech/General written exam to get all privileges above 50 MHz.

Actually, I am convinced that the FCC's gesture towards no-code licensing was an early sign that the commission desired to get out of the examination business at least in part.  That suspicion is irrelevant to the question at hand.  Still, not long after the Communicator proposal the FCC indeed turned exams over to the VEC.  One wonders.

The original Communicator proposal was 8 years before the VEC system. The two were driven by very different things. The Communicator was part of a "two-ladder" 7 license class system proposal that would have made things even more complex. The VEC/QPC system was budget-cutting, pure and simple, with the side benefit that it put Dick Bash out of business.

All ancient history now. By 1990 the cb boom/fad was over. In fact, around here I see more cars and homes with ham antennas than with cb antennas, and it's been that way for years.   

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W5ESE on September 16, 2011, 10:38:25 AM
In the bad old days most hams started as Novices on HF CW - usually 80 or 40 meters - with simple gear. Just getting on the air was a serious project. Usually the new ham went through several steps: build/buy HF receiver with simple antenna, learn code and theory (with practice oscillator, key and some books), put up better antenna, pass license tests, build/buy transmitter while waiting for license, get on air when license arrived. A lot of practical radio that wasn't on any test was learned in the process. Until the 1970s the Novice was a short-term one-time upgrade-or-leave-the-air license, so newcomers had a big incentive to get everything ready before the license arrived.

Describes me to a tee. Although I passed the Novice exam near the end of 1975, I didn't make my first contact until August 1976.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AB2T on September 16, 2011, 05:10:41 PM
" It didn't take much of an imagination to envision huge numbers of cb folks getting Communicator licenses and bringing the cb culture with them"

Yes, because empiricism supports it.  Looked what happened with the codeless tech license.

73s John AA5JG

I have a very strange hypothesis that I've been thinking over for many years now.  Perhaps I have mentioned it here before; my apologies also to those who have thought similarly.

The introduction of a no-code test in 1976, 1991, or today would not make a difference with regard to CB lingo on the air.

I am convinced that some ex-CB ham radio operators, and even some hams not from a CB background, consider radio lingo a marker of a certain clique.  The use of "QSL?" for "okay?", "copy" for "yes", "my QTH is" rather than "I'm here at ..." etc., marks a person (from their perspective) as a member of a certain in-group within the ham radio community.

For others, the use of CB lingo also serves as a filler for a limited vocabulary. Cursing also supplements a weak vocabulary, but at least CB lingo carries less stigma, social opprobration, and skirts the part 97 obscenity rules.  Yes, this is a prejudiced position.  However, it is well known that an intelligent and well-spoken person does not need to use lingo to hold a conversation.  Rather, he or she speaks on the radio in the same manner as speaking in person.  Indeed, intelligent hams often operate repeaters or HF phone ragchews in this manner.  

I don't know if all operators can be held to the same level of eloquence or conversational skill.  That's why I wonder if it's futile to constantly remind certain hams that CB lingo is verboten.  Rather, many hams will have to tolerate some lingo, so long as it isn't 10-codes or Smokey and the Bandit.  It's not possible for every ham to be a Demosthenes.  Other hams shouldn't force the lingo issue in some cases, especially if the operator in question is a short fuse.  If someone is using lingo, simply do not contact him or her.

CB lingo is grating, I'll admit.  Still, it is better than sparking anger in other hams who might not be able (or willing) to use conversational English and "plain expression".  CB lingo is much easier to tolerate than cursing.

  

 
  


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 18, 2011, 04:40:39 AM
The introduction of a no-code test in 1976, 1991, or today would not make a difference with regard to CB lingo on the air.

Maybe - or maybe not. Cb is certainly not as popular nor as visible today as in, say, the 1970s.

The issue isn't so much the lingo as the the culture/values, and what they represent.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AB2T on September 18, 2011, 11:12:06 AM
The introduction of a no-code test in 1976, 1991, or today would not make a difference with regard to CB lingo on the air.

Maybe - or maybe not. Cb is certainly not as popular nor as visible today as in, say, the 1970s.

The issue isn't so much the lingo as the the culture/values, and what they represent.

A discomfort with "radioese" and a jaded intolerance to jamming are two reasons why I haven't been on a repeater in 15 years.  Even so, in the coming month I'll have to do some outdoor demonstrations of 2m FM as part of an attempt to start a radio club.  I'd rather do a demonstration of HF, but space limitations rule out effective antennas.      

The other ham I'm working with is professional and well-spoken.  I just hope that in the course of our public demonstrations there is no jamming or obscenity on the repeaters we choose to work.  A part of me doubts that we'll get through a few hours of demonstration without encountering these behaviors.  I think to myself: would I want to be a ham after hearing the lewd language on repeaters?  This is why I have retreated entirely to HF CW.  But I must also remind myself that for most people, ham radio is now V/UHF FM.  I am quite saddened to think that the public face of ham radio has been reduced to the inanities often heard on repeaters.

73, Jordan      


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KG4NEL on September 19, 2011, 07:07:52 PM
But would you please explain what motivation a tecvh-savvy 20 or 30 year old of TODAY...you know those persons who now routinely use I-Pads and I-Phones, and who "tweet" regularly via such things as Twitter and Facebook...are going to have to want to join our ranks when they get to be 40 or 50 years old...particularly when all we still insist on offering up as our "mainstream" modes of communication are Morse code, SSB and analog FM voice?

As a 25 year old and regular Facebook user, my motivation was probably not that much different than yours - the ability to experiment with radio for radio's sake, never knowing who's going to come out of the noise at the end of the CQ, talking with someone halfway around the world with nothing but the ionosphere between our antennas.   

I'm sure it's shunned upon, but my first exposure to radio was through CB. I quickly grew tired of the behavior and legal limitations, though - went to a Field Day site of a local club, and was instantly hooked. I was much more active as a Tech on 6 meters SSB than I ever was as a General, and the first year or so of Extra...from 2004 to 2008 I was basically off the air as college got in the way of ham radio :D

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And while all such data is, admittedly, anecdotal, nevertheless, it suggests to me that our hobby simply isn't attracting today's youth in the same numbers that it was when you and I first got our licenses.  And it's those people (us aging oldsters) who now make up the bulk of the population of the hobby.

Another hobby of mine is high-end audio, and there a funny thing is happening - a lot of people my age are discovering how good vinyl records can sound! LP sales, while still a tiny fraction of music sales, are on the rise. We're not buying them for nostalgia, as we weren't around then. The appealing characteristics of vinyl - the tactile feel of the turntable, having large physical media, the sound - are just as appealing to future generations as it was to you guys originally. Same thing with ham radio; the appeal is there, if people are interested.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 23, 2011, 03:42:30 AM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 21, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,834    (2.1%)
Technician      341,321  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,690  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,235    (8.3%)
Extra              125,517  (17.9%)

Total              699,597

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 23, 2011, 09:05:05 AM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 22, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,834    (2.1%)
Technician      341,368  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,711  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,235    (8.3%)
Extra              125,539  (17.9%)

Total              699,687

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 24, 2011, 11:53:49 AM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 23, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,818    (2.1%)
Technician      341,410  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,724  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,218    (8.3%)
Extra              125,562  (17.9%)

Total              699,732

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 25, 2011, 06:50:18 AM
So, we will probably hit 700,000 in October?  wow.  Jim, do you know what the total was in October 1976?  that is about when I got my Novice (one of the last "N" issues)...

I will probably try to upgrade to Extra this Winter and drop out of the ranks of the Advanced.  For me I have found ham radio is especially attractive in the colder months (when I spend less time out and about)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 25, 2011, 02:08:20 PM
So, we will probably hit 700,000 in October? 

Maybe. The numbers wander up and down in the short term but the long term trend is up.

do you know what the total was in October 1976? 

No.

I do know that in 1970 the total was 263,918 and in 1980 it was 393,353. (per W5ESE)

It has been over 11 years since the Novice and Advanced were closed off from new issues. I wonder how long those licenses will stay on the books.

GL on the Extra. It's really not that hard if you do a bunch of practice exams.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 25, 2011, 05:45:16 PM
...do you know what the total was in October 1976?...
Not exactly, but the Winter 76-77 Callbook says 305,590. The press deadline was probably pretty close to October.

Data from other callbooks (dated from 1960 through 1997) is posted at www.qsl.net/w3hf/LicenseStats.htm (http://www.qsl.net/w3hf/LicenseStats.htm)
(Note that the links on that page to my old web site are broken.)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 25, 2011, 06:20:50 PM
Data from other callbooks (dated from 1960 through 1997) is posted at www.qsl.net/w3hf/LicenseStats.htm (http://www.qsl.net/w3hf/LicenseStats.htm)

Wow! Great stuff!

However, it should be noted that the Callbook totals include all station licenses - clubs, repeaters, military, second-station licenses, etc. They also seem to include some if not all licenses that are in the grace period. (That's why the 1997 total exceeds 700,000).

The totals from ARRL are individual operators only, and do not include grace-period licenses.

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It's interesting to note that in the 37-year period documented there were periods of rapid growth, no growth and even decline. For example, from 1960 to 1964 the numbers grew from 225,000 to 268,000+. Growth of 43,000 in less than 5 years! But the next 43,000 (to 311,000)
took more than a decade.

Rules changes had a big effect, too. For example, in 1984 the license term was changed from 5 to 10 years, which means that from 1989 to 1994 there were no expirations at all.

Interesting stuff. Thanks!

73 de Jim, N2EY




Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 28, 2011, 02:26:44 PM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 27, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,816    (2.1%)
Technician      341,441  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,786  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,214    (8.3%)
Extra              125,602  (17.9%)

Total              699,859

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 29, 2011, 02:15:04 PM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 28, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,816    (2.1%)
Technician      341,479  (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,808  (22.8%)
Advanced         58,218    (8.3%)
Extra              125,618  (17.9%)

Total              699,939

Almost to 700,000!

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 30, 2011, 07:10:28 AM

Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 29, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,815    (2.1%)
Technician      341,556   (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,829   (22.8%)
Advanced         58,216    (8.3%)
Extra              125,641  (17.9%)

Total              700,057

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 19, 2011, 10:15:19 AM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 18, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,778    (2.1%)
Technician      341,772   (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,900   (22.8%)
Advanced         58,141    (8.3%)
Extra              125,722  (17.9%)

Total              700,313

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AB2T on October 20, 2011, 04:56:17 PM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 18, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,778    (2.1%)
Technician      341,772   (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          159,900   (22.8%)
Advanced         58,141    (8.3%)
Extra              125,722  (17.9%)

Total              700,313

73 de Jim, N2EY


Jim, why include the Tech+ in your reports if it is a defunct class? 

I also wonder what it's going to take to get the General and Extra numbers near par or on par with the Tech.  More licensing classes for Tech to General, or General to Extra? 

I'd like to see Extra at 25% of all licensees, but something tells me that'll never happen.  Still, 18% is an improvement over the 9% or 10% when I was licensed.  Certainly Extra numbers were much lower when you were licensed.

73, Jordan



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 20, 2011, 07:08:37 PM
why include the Tech+ in your reports if it is a defunct class? 

Force of habit.

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I also wonder what it's going to take to get the General and Extra numbers near par or on par with the Tech.  More licensing classes for Tech to General, or General to Extra?

The Tech/Tech+ percentage peaked at 49.5% a few years back and has declined to its present level. Meanwhile the percentage of Generals and Extras has steadily climbed.

We are almost to the point where more than 9 out of 10 US hams have a Tech, General or Extra.

Remember that for many hams the license they hold may be enough. Why should a ham with no interest in HF/MF go beyond Technician? Why should a ham who is not interested in the Extra parts of 80/40/20/15 go beyond General or Advanced?

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I'd like to see Extra at 25% of all licensees, but something tells me that'll never happen.  Still, 18% is an improvement over the 9% or 10% when I was licensed.  Certainly Extra numbers were much lower when you were licensed.

Never is a very long time. You may see 25% Extra before long. The percentage of hams with Extra continues to grow.

When I got my Extra (1970) we were maybe 4% of US hams - if that much.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AF6LJ on October 24, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
I'd like to see Extra at 25% of all licensees, but something tells me that'll never happen.

Why would you like to see it at 25%?  It shouldn't be.  The extra class should be reserved for the best and brightest hams.  It would be around 10% of all licenses.  It shouldn't be a license you can get after a weekend of memorization.

73s John AA5JG

I have to agree the Extra Class should be something Extra, as in above the average. I have to admit earning my extra under the current paradigm was a hallow achievement.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 24, 2011, 06:01:22 PM
I'd like to see Extra at 25% of all licensees, but something tells me that'll never happen.

Why would you like to see it at 25%?  It shouldn't be.  The extra class should be reserved for the best and brightest hams.  It would be around 10% of all licenses.  It shouldn't be a license you can get after a weekend of memorization.

I agree that the Extra shouldn't be a license that can be earned after a weekend of memorization. In fact I think no amateur license should be that easy to get.

But I don't think there should be a certain percentage goal, or limit. I think it should be something all hams could at least shoot for.

Fun historical observation:

The modern Amateur Extra was created by FCC in mid-1951, but from February 1953 to November 1968 it conveyed the same privileges as the General, Conditional, and Advanced. With its 20 wpm code tests, additional theory and 2 year experience requirement, few hams bothered to get one. By 1968 there were only a few thousand Extras out of over 250,000 US hams.

I remember well how, in those late 1960s, hams much older and more experienced than I said that the Extra was the realm of engineers and professionals, that only a top op and super-genius could earn one.

But then a funny thing happened.

Once the new rules went into effect, hams of all ages and backgrounds simply got one. It turned out the license wasn't nearly so impossible at all. The number of Extras grew and grew all through the 1970s, even before the tests changed, Bash books, etc.

I, being a teenager too stupid to know how hard it was, simply got one in 1970.

IMHO pretty much any ham can, if they want to.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 02, 2011, 02:52:01 PM
Updated numbers from:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 1, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,745     (2.1%)
Technician      341,831   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          159,941   (22.8%)
Advanced         58,086     (8.3%)
Extra              125,791   (18.0%)

Total              700,394

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K1ZJH on November 15, 2011, 11:12:48 AM
I tend to agree that the number of ham licensees are increasing.

But, the number is slightly skewed for two reasons.

1: the average age of the ham population is increasing.

2: the license term has been increased to ten years.

Unfortunately that means many silent keys, in our aging ham population,
have fallen off the radar until the licenses lapse.

I have had two friends pass away in the past year who are still
showing as being active hams on the FCC data base. 

Pete K1ZJH


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on November 15, 2011, 11:55:55 AM
And the license term increased to ten years over 25 years ago. So we've long since passed any transient effect of that change.

(Thanks to Jim N2EY for corrections.)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 15, 2011, 11:57:52 AM
How do you know that the average age is increasing?  The FCC doesn't record birthdays of licensees anymore.

Not only that:

- Americans are living longer, having fewer babies and having them later in life, driving up the "average age" of the US population. (IIRC the median age of the US population is close to 40 - that means half of us are over 40 and half under 40 years of age!)

- Is the "average age" the mean, the median, or something else? Depending on how the ages are distributed, the numbers can be very different.

- The hams you see at 'fests, club meetings, etc. aren't necessarily representative. Hams who are retired or empty-nesters are more likely to go to them than hams with careers, small children, etc.

- The change to 10 year licenses started in 1983 or 1984. By 1989 all the 5 year licenses were gone. It's been 22+ years since then.

73 de Jim, N2EY  


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 16, 2011, 02:04:52 PM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 15, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,712     (2.1%)
Technician      342,268   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,056   (22.8%)
Advanced         58,043     (8.3%)
Extra              125,989   (18.0%)

Total              701,068

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 02, 2011, 07:06:31 AM
From

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 1, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,685     (2.1%)
Technician      342,506   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,296   (22.8%)
Advanced         57,980     (8.3%)
Extra              126,187   (18.0%)

Total              701,654

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 02, 2012, 05:50:59 AM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 31, 2011 was:

Novice:            14,613     (2.1%)
Technician      342,527   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,543   (22.9%)
Advanced         57,875     (8.2%)
Extra              126,428   (18.0%)

Total              701,986

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 20, 2012, 01:10:15 PM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 19, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,592     (2.1%)
Technician      342,420   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,616   (22.9%)
Advanced         57,825     (8.2%)
Extra              126,543   (18.0%)

Total              701,996

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 27, 2012, 02:02:48 PM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 26, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,565     (2.1%)
Technician      342,505   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,702   (22.9%)
Advanced         57,772     (8.2%)
Extra              126,674   (18.0%)

Total              702,218

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 02, 2012, 09:07:13 AM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 1, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,545     (2.1%)
Technician      342,505   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,748   (22.9%)
Advanced         57,758     (8.2%)
Extra              126,741   (18.0%)

Total              702,297

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 15, 2012, 02:47:52 PM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 14, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,496     (2.1%)
Technician      342,550   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,824   (22.9%)
Advanced         57,656     (8.2%)
Extra              126,868   (18.1%)

Total              702,394

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 17, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 16, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,496     (2.1%)
Technician      342,842   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,896   (22.9%)
Advanced         57,640     (8.2%)
Extra              126,962   (18.1%)

Total              702,836

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 28, 2012, 02:54:24 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 27, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,464     (2.1%)
Technician      342,922   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,931   (22.9%)
Advanced         57,580     (8.2%)
Extra              127,099   (18.1%)

Total              702,996

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 01, 2012, 02:50:18 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 29, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,466     (2.1%)
Technician      342,998   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          160,946   (22.9%)
Advanced         57,577     (8.2%)
Extra             127,143    (18.1%)

Total              703,130

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KB1WSY on March 17, 2012, 03:22:07 AM
>>The growth in the 1970s was far more than in the 1960s despite the increase in license requirements and the economic troubles. About 33,000 more hams in the 1960s, almost 130,000 - four times more! - in the 1970s. Why?<<

It is a puzzle. Of course there is the baby boom (which you have already mentioned). Many statisticians define this group, to which I belong, as anyone born between 1946 and 1964. The oldest members of this group were about 14 years old in 1960 and the youngest were about 16 years old in 1980. The 1950s, '60s and early '70s when many of us were in High School were a time of worry about the "missile gap" and stress on languages and science in schools -- I am British but even outside the U.S. these historical/cultural trends influenced education. So you had a combination of a very fast growing teenage and youth population (they were building and expanding schools like crazy just to keep up with us!) with a stress on science and technology. Plus, the digital age was still over the horizon, so there was no "competing" lure of personal computing/software vs. ham radio. Back then, amateur radio seemed "leading edge" even to the general population, whereas I have heard several non-hams recently question my re-entry into the hobby earlier this year by claiming that the whole thing is "old hat."

But the baby boom data do not explain why, in the United States, the ham population grew a lot more in the 1970s than '60s. The opposite should have happened, because the biggest "baby bulge" came in the years immediately after WWII. About the only (really lame) explanation I can think of is that, in the lingo of the times, ham radio might have been less "groovy" among the politically activist 1960s teenagers than among the recession-hit 1970s cohort.

There was also an "echo boom" in the 1970s to 90s (to which my own children belong)  -- the children of the baby boomers. Plus, currently, there is a new boom caused in some part by the U.S.'s very healthy immigration rate, which includes quite a few highly qualified engineers coming to seek high tech opportunities in America and their children. (I am part of the immigrant group although I don't claim any high tech qualifications.) Tech education in schools is difficult to assess comparatively with earlier times, however it is interesting that being "geeky" is no longer necessarily a cause of ridicule and it is also fascinating how so many young and old people nowadays are well versed in the intricacies of high tech, although I daresay few people have any idea how the hardware in their tiny devices actually works!

73 de Martin, KB1WSY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3DBB on March 17, 2012, 06:30:34 AM
>>The growth in the 1970s was far more than in the 1960s despite the increase in license requirements and the economic troubles. About 33,000 more hams in the 1960s, almost 130,000 - four times more! - in the 1970s. Why?<<

It is a puzzle.   

But the baby boom data do not explain why, in the United States, the ham population grew a lot more in the 1970s than '60s. The opposite should have happened, because the biggest "baby bulge" came in the years immediately after WWII. About the only (really lame) explanation I can think of is that, in the lingo of the times, ham radio might have been less "groovy" among the politically activist 1960s teenagers than among the recession-hit 1970s cohort.


73 de Martin, KB1WSY

In the 1970's United States the CB boom reached it's crescendo about mid-decade. CB operation was ubiquitous, similar to today's cellphone phenomenon, and canonised in popular culture with movies such as "Smokey and the Bandit" and songs by C.W. McCall. Everyone, it seemed, was on CB. With overcrowding came the increase from 23 channels to 40 and those were soon overrun. A lot of bad stuff went down on CB, and many of those truly interested in communications radio had migrated to the Amateur Radio Service by the latter half of the 1970's, creating an increase in number of U.S. licensees by decade's end.

In terms of numbers of ARS licensees by the end of the 1970's, the CB boom and it's resulting implosion helped the Amateur Radio Service. It's a mistake to be a slave to the numbers. Quality is the key.



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 17, 2012, 06:44:00 AM
>>The growth in the 1970s was far more than in the 1960s despite the increase in license requirements and the economic troubles. About 33,000 more hams in the 1960s, almost 130,000 - four times more! - in the 1970s. Why?<<

It is a puzzle. Of course there is the baby boom (which you have already mentioned). Many statisticians define this group, to which I belong, as anyone born between 1946 and 1964. The oldest members of this group were about 14 years old in 1960 and the youngest were about 16 years old in 1980. The 1950s, '60s and early '70s when many of us were in High School were a time of worry about the "missile gap" and stress on languages and science in schools -- I am British but even outside the U.S. these historical/cultural trends influenced education. So you had a combination of a very fast growing teenage and youth population (they were building and expanding schools like crazy just to keep up with us!) with a stress on science and technology. Plus, the digital age was still over the horizon, so there was no "competing" lure of personal computing/software vs. ham radio. Back then, amateur radio seemed "leading edge" even to the general population, whereas I have heard several non-hams recently question my re-entry into the hobby earlier this year by claiming that the whole thing is "old hat."

I don't think amateur radio back then was considered "leading edge" by most folks. In fact, just the opposite, once the Space Age and Computer Age dawned. (See below)

But the baby boom data do not explain why, in the United States, the ham population grew a lot more in the 1970s than '60s. The opposite should have happened, because the biggest "baby bulge" came in the years immediately after WWII. About the only (really lame) explanation I can think of is that, in the lingo of the times, ham radio might have been less "groovy" among the politically activist 1960s teenagers than among the recession-hit 1970s cohort.

IMHO, that's a big part of what happened. The counter-culture of the 1960s thought amateur radio was too "square" to be interesting. Also, while the digital revolution was still years away, teenagers in the 1960s in the USA had lots of other interests to compete with amateur radio - cars, electronic music, etc.

Some other factors:

1) In the USA in the 1960s, cb radio was growing by leaps and bounds, and initially probably distracted many potential hams.

2) One of the most-common ways people learned about amateur radio used to be hearing amateurs using AM 'phone on "shortwave" receivers. But by the 1960s US interest in SWLing was beginning to decline. More important, large numbers of US hams had switched from AM to SSB, which typical SW receivers could not demodulate easily. So that method
of spreading the word decreased.

3) In the mid-1960s there were 6 US license classes.: Novice, Technician, Conditional, General, Advanced, Extra. The Novice was a one-year nonrenewable license and the Technician gave no HF privileges at all. The other four license classes gave full privileges until 1968.

Of the hams who had General, Conditional, Advanced or Extra licenses, about 1 in 4 had a Conditional license. That license had the same tests as a General, but was goven "by mail" rather than by exam at an FCC office. Conditional was only available if a ham lived more than a certain distance from an FCC office or had a serious physical disability.  

In 1964-65, FCC changed the rules of the Conditional so that the distance requirement was greatly increased - from 75 miles to 175 miles. They also increased the number of FCC exam points. End result was that after the changes there were very few new Conditionals.

4) From 1957 to the early 1960s, the USSR led in the "space race", making most of the "firsts" in space. But once the USA got going, the gap closed, with more and more impressive manned and unmanned successes in space. Finally the USA "won" the race by sending humans to the moon in 1969. In the USA, all this happened live on TV.

With such rapid progress in space, amateur radio seemed to many to be "old hat" even in the 1960s. How could terrestrial HF DX be "leading edge" when we were watching astronauts on the moon live on TV, or seeing pictures of Mars sent back over tens of millions of miles from unmanned probes?

The main point, however, is to challenge the concept that "incentive licensing hurt amateur radio" The numbers show exactly the opposite!

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA7KPK on March 19, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
More important, large numbers of US hams had switched from AM to SSB, which typical SW receivers could not demodulate easily. So that method of spreading the word decreased.

Only if the shortwave receiver was designed for AM only. I had no trouble decoding SSB with my National NC-57, which had a built-in BFO that I could use to add sort of an artificial carrier to the signal.

Of course the average Joe just tuning around the ham bands and encountering a block of SSB signals probably wouldn't know what to make of them even if they had a BFO-equipped receiver.

Interesting perspective on all this, it never occurred to me that ham radio was too square to contemplate (and I was born in 1955), but then as a kid I ate, slept, drank and bathed radio so it never would have occurred to me. I think my parents eventually gave up trying to get me to break out of my monomania, but I'm not sure because I was too busy having QSOs with my friends in the 80 meter novice band to notice.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 20, 2012, 05:50:31 AM
More important, large numbers of US hams had switched from AM to SSB, which typical SW receivers could not demodulate easily. So that method of spreading the word decreased.

Only if the shortwave receiver was designed for AM only. I had no trouble decoding SSB with my National NC-57, which had a built-in BFO that I could use to add sort of an artificial carrier to the signal.

There were a considerable number of "shortwave" receivers back-then which didn't have BFOs. Some were as simple as an "All-American 5" with a pair of "shortwave" coils and a bandswitch. No BFO, no bandspread, no way to turn off the AVC. These were particularly common in the days before TV.

Of course the average Joe just tuning around the ham bands and encountering a block of SSB signals probably wouldn't know what to make of them even if they had a BFO-equipped receiver.

Which is exactly my point. Ham radio used to get a LOT of recruits from among those "average Joes" who happened upon the ham bands, heard someone on AM, and got interested. The switch to SSB cut off that supply of new hams.

I have read many, many stories of hams who got started in the 1930s-1950s whose introduction was exactly as described above. Often it was an old "shortwave" receiver found in the attic which got them listening outside the BC band.

 
Interesting perspective on all this, it never occurred to me that ham radio was too square to contemplate (and I was born in 1955), but then as a kid I ate, slept, drank and bathed radio so it never would have occurred to me. I think my parents eventually gave up trying to get me to break out of my monomania, but I'm not sure because I was too busy having QSOs with my friends in the 80 meter novice band to notice.

I'm a year older, and had a similar background. Point is, a lot of folks weren't like us back then. The 1960s were a lot different from the 1950s and before.

In fact, we were probably too young for the full effect of the 1960s to be felt. To have been a "teenager" in the mid-1960s required being born before about 1950.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA7KPK on March 20, 2012, 01:25:28 PM
Point is, a lot of folks weren't like us back then.

Funny, Jim, I still hear variations on that today. :-)

73, Creede


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 27, 2012, 06:58:09 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 26, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,375     (2.0%)
Technician      343,428   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          161,181    (22.9%)
Advanced         57,426      (8.2%)
Extra              127,614    (18.1%)

Total              704,024

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 26, 2012, 05:41:12 AM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 24, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,304     (2.0%)
Technician      343,407   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          161,298    (22.9%)
Advanced         57,297      (8.1%)
Extra              127,995    (18.2%)

Total              704,301

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 03, 2012, 02:40:36 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 2, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,257     (2.0%)
Technician      343,864   (48.8%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          161,415    (22.9%)
Advanced         57,272      (8.1%)
Extra              128,210    (18.2%)

Total              705,018

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 13, 2012, 09:26:09 AM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 12, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,147     (2.0%)
Technician      343,721   (48.7%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          161,618    (22.9%)
Advanced         57,072      (8.1%)
Extra              128,972    (18.3%)

Total              705,530

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 24, 2012, 02:48:05 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 21, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,126     (2.0%)
Technician      343,706   (48.7%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          161,606    (22.9%)
Advanced         57,030      (8.1%)
Extra              129,150    (18.2%)

Total              705,618

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on June 25, 2012, 05:40:46 AM
Extra              129,150    (18.2%)
Typo alert: this percentage should be 18.3%. (The percentage of Extras has NOT gone down. It's actually gone up, but in the fourth decimal place.)

Of course I couldn't verify the source data as ARRL has already changed the page.

Steve
W3HF


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 20, 2012, 03:05:02 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 19, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,058     (2.0%)
Technician      343,646   (48.7%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          161,613    (22.9%)
Advanced         56,909      (8.1%)
Extra              129,617    (18.4%)

Total              705,843

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 01, 2012, 09:06:22 AM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 31, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,022     (2.0%)
Technician      343,582   (48.7%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General          161,772    (22.9%)
Advanced         56,841      (8.1%)
Extra              129,655    (18.4%)

Total              705,872

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 10, 2012, 09:02:06 AM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 09, 2012 was:

Novice:            14,005     (2.0%)
Technician      343,582   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          161,839    (22.9%)
Advanced         56,814      (8.0%)
Extra              129,716    (18.4%)

Total              705,956

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 19, 2012, 02:18:26 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 16, 2012 was:

Novice:            13,991     (2.0%)
Technician      343,608   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          161,947    (22.9%)
Advanced         56,782      (8.0%)
Extra              129,781    (18.4%)

Total              706,109

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: NK7Z on August 19, 2012, 07:52:24 PM

Total              706,109


Wow...  So few of us... 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: NK7Z on August 20, 2012, 07:22:54 AM

Total              706,109


Wow...  So few of us... 

Hams in General I mean...


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 30, 2012, 02:24:53 PM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 29, 2012 was:

Novice:            13,970     (2.0%)
Technician      343,658   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          162,050    (22.9%)
Advanced         56,735      (8.0%)
Extra              129,918    (18.4%)

Total              706,331

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 20, 2012, 04:12:06 PM
Have not heard Jim post recently, and as I just upgraded from Advanced to Extra I thought I would update the thread this one time:

From: http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of count of active FCC licenses held by individuals on Wednesday, 19-Sep-2012 --

Novice:            13,943       (1.97%)
Technician      343,703     (48.65%)
General          162,179     (22.95%)
Advanced         56,661      (8.02%)
Extra              130,066    (18.41%)

Total              706,552


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N4NYY on September 24, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
Have not heard Jim post recently, and as I just upgraded from Advanced to Extra I thought I would update the thread this one time:



He post after the month is over. He posted for August and we are still in Sept.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 25, 2012, 05:22:24 PM
Have not heard Jim post recently, and as I just upgraded from Advanced to Extra I thought I would update the thread this one time:

He post after the month is over. He posted for August and we are still in Sept.

Before my post of the Sept. 19 counts, Jim had posted updates at least twice per month:

August 29
August 16
August 9
July 31
July 19
June 21
June 12





Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 25, 2012, 05:24:47 PM
Anyone have a guess as to what year the Advanced count will go to zero? Surely it will not be before 2050 at the very earliest...


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 26, 2012, 06:51:10 AM
Anyone have a guess as to what year the Advanced count will go to zero? Surely it will not be before 2050 at the very earliest...

Maybe. Anybody with an Advanced or Novice has been a ham at least 12 years. But if someone got that license at, say, 12 years of age, they could be with us a very long time.

There will probably be a few who will hold onto the license just because they can. Note that more than half of those who held Advanced in April 2000 are still Advanceds, but less than third of those who held Novice are still Novices.

The 10 year license term slows down the effect of SKs, too.



73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 27, 2012, 08:15:31 AM
From:
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 26, 2012 was:

Novice:            13,933     (2.0%)
Technician      343,650   (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          162,270    (23.0%)
Advanced         56,629      (8.0%)
Extra              130,116    (18.4%)

Total              706,598

We have reached the point where fewer than 1 in 10 US amateurs is Advanced or Novice.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 27, 2012, 06:46:16 PM
I'm surprised that they haven't dropped Tech Plus altogether from the counts since Tech Plus is zero...


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 02, 2012, 02:45:27 PM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 1, 2012 was:

Novice:            13,929     (2.0%)
Technician      343,707   (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          162,271    (23.0%)
Advanced         56,614      (8.0%)
Extra              130,123    (18.4%)

Total              706,644

I think Tech Plus is kept in the totals because the rules and database still show it.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on October 02, 2012, 04:54:16 PM
True, but since the Tech Plus total has become superfluous, there is no reason I can think of to include it in your updates  :)

Looks like Advanced and Novice totals will persist for some time.  Can Novice licenses be renewed? I seem to remember only having a year or two to upgrade back in 1976 when I got mine (I was an Advanced before a year was up though)...  



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 03, 2012, 07:27:26 AM
Can Novice licenses be renewed? I seem to remember only having a year or two to upgrade back in 1976 when I got mine (I was an Advanced before a year was up though)...  

Your old Novice, and all since the mid 1970s, are renewable. Since the Novice hasn't been available to new issues since April 2000, the only way there could be any curren unexpired Novice licenses left is if they were renewed.

Here's the history:

When the Novice was created in 1951, it was good for just one year and could not be renewed. It was also one-to-a-customer - you couldn't get another Novice by taking the tests again. And you couldn't have a Novice if you'd ever held any class of amateur license.

In 1967, as part of the "incentive licensing" changes, the Novice term was doubled to 2 years, but all the other rules remained in place. The reason for this was that too many Novices were dropping out when their licenses expired.

In the early to mid 1970s the Novice license rules were changed again. First the one-to-a-customer/no retest rule was
changed. If a Novice license expired, the licensee could get another Novice by passing the tests again after 1 year off the
air. That only lasted a short time before the 1 year wait was eliminated, and a Novice with an expired license could get
another one by retaking the tests. All through this time the Novice license term was 2 years.

Finally, in the mid 1970s the Novice became 5 years renewable, just like all the other license classes. When the license term
was doubled to 10 years in 1984, the Novice was included.

----

The original concept of the Novice license was that it was only meant as a sort of "learner's permit", not a regular license.
Remember that before 1951 all US hams had to pass 13 wpm code (10 wpm before 1936) and the Class B/General written exam just to get started. The Novice concept back then was that it would be easier to learn both code and theory up to the
General standard by actually doing, rather than study, study, study.

One of the effects of the Novice was a lowering of the age of typical newcomers. While there had always been young hams,
(W3OVV passed Class B in 1948 at the age of nine), the Novice brought a lot more teenagers into the ranks of US hamdom.
Of course the Novice license wasn't the only factor; the general prosperity of the period and the abundance of surplus
and inexpensive kit and manufactured gear aimed at the Novice helped too. The peak of this development was, IMHO,
the Heathkit HW-16.

I think what killed off the Novice was repeaters. When they became the Big New Thing in the 1970s, hams started bypassing
the Novice and going straight for Tech in order to access 2 meter and 440 repeaters. The easing of Tech written testing
in 1987 and dropping of the Tech code test in 1991 sealed the deal.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on October 03, 2012, 08:23:25 PM

Your old Novice, and all since the mid 1970s, are renewable. Since the Novice hasn't been available to new issues since April 2000, the only way there could be any current unexpired Novice licenses left is if they were renewed.

Here's the history:

When the Novice was created in 1951, it was good for just one year and could not be renewed. It was also one-to-a-customer - you couldn't get another Novice by taking the tests again. And you couldn't have a Novice if you'd ever held any class of amateur license.

In 1967, as part of the "incentive licensing" changes, the Novice term was doubled to 2 years, but all the other rules remained in place. The reason for this was that too many Novices were dropping out when their licenses expired.

In the early to mid 1970s the Novice license rules were changed again. First the one-to-a-customer/no retest rule was
changed. If a Novice license expired, the licensee could get another Novice by passing the tests again after 1 year off the
air. That only lasted a short time before the 1 year wait was eliminated, and a Novice with an expired license could get
another one by retaking the tests. All through this time the Novice license term was 2 years.

Finally, in the mid 1970s the Novice became 5 years renewable, just like all the other license classes. When the license term
was doubled to 10 years in 1984, the Novice was included.

Thanks for sharing the history Jim.  I had the impression that my Novice (Fall 1976) was not renewable, but maybe it was just that the material I used to review for the Novice, General, and Advanced exams at the time were out of date...   I was one of the last hams to receive an 'N' call for Novice -- a month after I received my 'N' call I received a letter and new license in the mail from the FCC making me a WB9.
I think that was late October 1976, but I am just guessing... By the end of Spring 1977 I was an Advanced and I had thought one of my incentives to upgrade -- other than getting phone privileges and more frequency spectrum -- was that the Novice license was a temporary license... I guess the adage is true -- memory is the first thing to go LOL

imo, the Novice being a temporary 'learner's permit' type license was a solid idea -- I don't find making it a renewable license resonant at all. I guess that and doing away with the code requirement is all water under the bridge at this point.

73


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 04, 2012, 12:07:01 PM

Your old Novice, and all since the mid 1970s, are renewable.

This isn't right. The renewable Novice came after you got yours in 1976. Your Novice was only good for 2 years, but if you didn't upgrade before it ran out you could pass the tests again and get another.

I had the impression that my Novice (Fall 1976) was not renewable, but maybe it was just that the material I used to review for the Novice, General, and Advanced exams at the time were out of date...

No. I was mistaken, you were correct. The change to 5 year renewable Novice came after you got yours. I am still researching the exact date but it was after the end of 1976.

btw, the reason FCC stopped issuing distinctive Novice callsigns back then was that their data-processing system didn't like it. I wonder if the move to 5 year renewable Novices had a similar cause?

73 de Jim, N2EY 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on October 05, 2012, 04:48:42 AM
btw, the reason FCC stopped issuing distinctive Novice callsigns back then was that their data-processing system didn't like it. I wonder if the move to 5 year renewable Novices had a similar cause?

It certainly made for a more-uniform system. Every license had the same term, so they didn't need conditional logic to first read the license class and then make a decision.

Current computer hardware and software technology would consider that an insignificant complexity. But maybe it made a difference for them back then, at least for the computer systems they were using.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 05, 2012, 11:53:00 AM
It certainly made for a more-uniform system. Every license had the same term, so they didn't need conditional logic to first read the license class and then make a decision.

Current computer hardware and software technology would consider that an insignificant complexity. But maybe it made a difference for them back then, at least for the computer systems they were using.

From what I recall from those days, the FCC "computerized" about 1964, then went quite a while before upgrading/replacing. I suspect that at least some rules changes and refusal of rules changes (such as vanity calls) were the result of the limits of the computer system.

Because licenses are legal records, there are probably security and other requirements which we don't know about.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on October 06, 2012, 03:11:29 AM
Thanks for the correction, Jim.  I seem to remember knowing that my Novice would expire in two years was definite extra motivation to study and upgrade beyond the other motivation of obtaining access to more frequency as well as voice privileges.  It was such good motivation that I upgraded to Advanced in about 6 months.  

With the issue of my call the '9' district was not far away from running out of 'WB9' calls and moved into 'WD9' shortly thereafter.
The '6' district at that time had to already be into the 'D's...  maybe that old computer system might have had trouble knowing whether a 'N' upgrade should be an 'A,' a 'B,' or a 'D' (?)  Although they got by thru the mid-70's okay...

conjecture mode: Maybe an 'N' transgressed the rules and someone mistakenly blamed WB6 instead of the potential WD6... and the WB6 sued  ???  





Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WN2C on October 06, 2012, 02:39:14 PM
When the FCC came out with the Tech (C) license (it was actually a conditional license with the test given by a single General
class holder) in the 50's and you held an unexpired Novice license and it hadn't expired, it ran concurrent to the Tech.  So you actually held 2 calls signs, the Wn#xxx and the W#xxx issued to the Tech license.  Once the Novice license expired you could not use the privileges associated with it.
I am realy interested in knowing when the Novice be came renewable cause I too had one expire in 75 or 76.  I also wonder if they did a grace period on those too. ??

de wn2c Rick


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 06, 2012, 08:30:40 PM
When the FCC came out with the Tech (C) license (it was actually a conditional license with the test given by a single General
class holder) in the 50's and you held an unexpired Novice license and it hadn't expired, it ran concurrent to the Tech.  So you actually held 2 calls signs, the Wn#xxx and the W#xxx issued to the Tech license.  Once the Novice license expired you could not use the privileges associated with it.

There were periods when you could hold both licenses and periods when you could not. I'm not sure of the dates, though.

When the Novice and Technician were created in 1951, their exams were given at FCC exam points, same as the other licenses except Conditional. You could only get a Novice or Technician "by mail" if you met the Conditional criteria (125 miles "air line" from a quarterly exam point, or a shut-in for medical reasons).

In 1954 the FCC changed the rules and made all routine Novice and Techs "by mail". They also reduced the "Conditional distance" to 75 miles "air line".

 
I am realy interested in knowing when the Novice be came renewable cause I too had one expire in 75 or 76.  I also wonder if they did a grace period on those too. ??

The Novice became a 5 year renewable license on May 15, 1978. The way it worked was that if a Novice license was still current on May 15, 1978, it could be renewed same as other licenses. See QST for May, 1978, page 46-47.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N3DF on October 09, 2012, 09:15:40 AM
Never liked the HW16.  Always thought the DX60/HR10 pair comprised the iconic Novice station. 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 09, 2012, 12:49:26 PM
Never liked the HW16.  Always thought the DX60/HR10 pair comprised the iconic Novice station. 

Why?

The HR-10/DX-60 were first, of course. But the HW-16 was a better Novice station. Here's why:

1) The receiver section of the HW-16 is better on CW than the HR-10. Better selectivity, slower tuning rate, better stability.
2) The HW-16 includes a complete TR system and has QSK. The HR-10/DX-60 requires an external relay or switch.
3) The HW-16 cost $99.95 while the HR-10 and DX-60 cost $79.95 each - without a TR system. Almost twice as much! May not seem like much now, but back in the 1960s it was a lot of money.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on October 14, 2012, 06:50:05 AM
I loved the HW-16 I had as a novice.  I only had a few crystals but worked hundreds of stations with it.
Here is a site with a pic of the HW-16 with the VFO and lists the specs:
http://home.frognet.net/~mcfadden/wd8rif/hw16.htm (http://home.frognet.net/~mcfadden/wd8rif/hw16.htm)

Mine was a used model; affordability was one of its many strengths...


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 18, 2012, 10:06:17 AM
From

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 17, 2012 was:

Novice:            13,909     (2.0%)
Technician      343,859   (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          162,438    (23.0%)
Advanced         56,557      (8.0%)
Extra              130,245    (18.4%)

Total              707,008

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 07, 2012, 12:41:25 PM
From

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 6, 2012 was:

Novice:            13,870     (2.0%)
Technician      344,315   (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          162,747    (23.0%)
Advanced         56,506      (8.0%)
Extra              130,359    (18.4%)

Total              707,797

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 05, 2012, 01:34:56 PM
From

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 3, 2012 was:

Novice:            13,845     (2.0%)
Technician      345,082   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          163,088   (23.0%)
Advanced         56,428      (8.0%)
Extra              130,608    (18.4%)

Total              709,051

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 21, 2012, 08:20:23 AM
From

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 20, 2012 was:

Novice:            13,811     (1.9%)
Technician      345,657   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          163,402   (23.0%)
Advanced         56,385     (7.9%)
Extra              130,779   (18.4%)

Total              710,034

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 14, 2013, 07:20:46 AM
From

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 13, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,651     (1.9%)
Technician      345,576   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          163,721   (23.1%)
Advanced         56,073     (7.9%)
Extra              131,020   (18.5%)

Total              710,041

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 20, 2013, 02:13:33 PM
From

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 19, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,631     (1.9%)
Technician      345,595   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          163,754   (23.1%)
Advanced         56,007     (7.9%)
Extra              131,067   (18.5%)

Total              710,054

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K1CJS on February 22, 2013, 04:27:36 AM
Anyone have a guess as to what year the Advanced count will go to zero? Surely it will not be before 2050 at the very earliest...

Depends on how old the youngest Advanced licensee is, whether or not any of those Advanced class upgrade---and whether or not the FCC changes the regs and eliminates the Advanced class altogether!  (Remember, they've done something like that before.)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 22, 2013, 06:20:27 AM
Depends on how old the youngest Advanced licensee is, whether or not any of those Advanced class upgrade---and whether or not the FCC changes the regs and eliminates the Advanced class altogether!  (Remember, they've done something like that before.)

The FCC has done something similar only twice.

First, in the 1970s they eliminated the Conditional class. Then in the 2000s they eliminated the Technician Plus class.

In both cases the elimination was handled by changing the license class when the license was renewed or modified. Conditionals became Generals, Technician Pluses became Technicians. But nobody got additional operating privileges from the change.

So hanging on to an Advanced in the hope of a no-test upgrade to Extra is a very long shot. There are no proposals pending to change the way things are.

---

As can be seen, the number of US hams with an Advanced or Novice is now less than 10% of the total, and is steadily dropping. AFAIK it costs FCC practically nothing to keep these old license classes separate in the database. So they will simply let time do the job.

Fun historical fact:

The FCC closed the Advanced to new issues at the end of 1952 and reopened it in 1967. IIRC, the reopen date was Nov. 22 1967 (but don't take that as absolute fact). So the Advanced was closed to new issues for 14 years, 10 months and 22 days the first time.

The FCC reclosed the Advanced to new issues on April 15, 2000. As of this writing, it's been closed off 12 years, 10 months and 6 days.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 27, 2013, 09:07:48 AM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 26, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,621     (1.9%)
Technician      345,671   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          163,808   (23.1%)
Advanced         55,976     (7.9%)
Extra              131,122   (18.5%)

Total              710,198

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KO3D on March 01, 2013, 06:46:49 AM
And how many of these +700K amateurs are actually using the airwaves?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 01, 2013, 07:36:13 AM
And how many of these +700K amateurs are actually using the airwaves?

Nobody knows.

One thing to remember, though, is that there is a much wider range of bands and modes today than ever before - and lots of rigs that can deal with them.

Also, back in the early 1980s the US license term went from 5 to 10 years. So if someone drops out of amateur radio, or never becomes active in the first place, it will be twice as long before their license disappears from the database. Not only that but the renewal window is 820 days long.

Still, it's significant that our numbers are growing rather than shrinking, don't you think?

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 01, 2013, 01:50:11 PM
http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 28, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,622     (1.9%)
Technician      345,887   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          163,879   (23.1%)
Advanced         55,976     (7.9%)
Extra              131,170   (18.5%)

Total              710,534

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: NN4RH on March 02, 2013, 05:55:23 AM
The number of Novices went UP 1 this week ? 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KG6AF on March 02, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
The number of Novices went UP 1 this week ? 

Sure, why not?  What happens if someone lets their license expire, then renews during the grace period?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K1CJS on March 07, 2013, 04:58:09 AM
Depends on how old the youngest Advanced licensee is, whether or not any of those Advanced class upgrade---and whether or not the FCC changes the regs and eliminates the Advanced class altogether!  (Remember, they've done something like that before.)

The FCC has done something similar only twice....

...But nobody got additional operating privileges from the change.



Yes, you're right, but some licensees have lost privileges because of license reshuffling.  Incentive licensing still sticks in the craw of a lot of licensees.  Of course, time will remedy that as well.  73!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 15, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 14, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,611     (1.9%)
Technician      346,210   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          164,048   (23.1%)
Advanced         55,910     (7.9%)
Extra              131,321   (18.5%)

Total              711,100

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 18, 2013, 08:57:33 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 17, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,522     (1.9%)
Technician      346,628   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          164,573   (23.1%)
Advanced         55,741     (7.8%)
Extra              131,673   (18.5%)

Total              712,137

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N3DF on April 19, 2013, 10:49:12 AM
Jim,

Do you project 1M licensees within our lifetimes?  I'm estimating my date of death as 1/1/33.

Neil N3DF/Miami Beach


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 19, 2013, 01:40:15 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 18, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,522     (1.9%)
Technician      346,781   (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          164,644   (23.1%)
Advanced         55,738     (7.8%)
Extra              131,717   (18.5%)

Total              712,402

73 de Jim, N2EY

----

Hard to predict what the long-term growth will be. Six years ago, the number was about 655,000, but the growth since has not been linear at all. Who knows if there will ever be a million US hams?

73 de Jim N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 02, 2013, 01:48:35 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 1, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,467     (1.9%)
Technician      346,843    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          164,780   (23.1%)
Advanced         55,672     (7.8%)
Extra              131,863   (18.5%)

Total              712,625

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 16, 2013, 03:26:22 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 15, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,438     (1.9%)
Technician      347,040    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          165,004   (23.1%)
Advanced         55,613     (7.8%)
Extra              131,990   (18.6%)

Total              713,085

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W1AJO on June 03, 2013, 08:05:00 AM
Here are the June 1st numbers:

Novice     Tech         Tech-Plus     General          Advanced        Extra         Total
 13,384     346,794     -                165,175          55,481           132,060    712,894
 1.88%     48.65%          0.00%     23.17%         7.78%            18.52%   


http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 11, 2013, 01:48:58 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 10, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,297     (1.9%)
Technician      346,510    (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          165,625   (23.2%)
Advanced         55,314     (7.8%)
Extra              132,392   (18.6%)

Total              713,138

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 26, 2013, 01:24:58 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 26, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,290     (1.9%)
Technician      346,991    (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          165,924   (23.2%)
Advanced         55,286     (7.8%)
Extra              132,585   (18.6%)

Total              714,076

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KV4PL on August 29, 2013, 01:25:24 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on Aug 28, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,219     (1.8%)
Technician        347,379   (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General            166,303    (23.3%)
Advanced         55,141     (7.7%)
Extra               132,787    (18.6%)


Total               714,829

73's Bob KV4PL


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 31, 2013, 01:39:31 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 30, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,154     (1.8%)
Technician      347,645    (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          166,562   (23.3%)
Advanced         54,702     (7.6%)
Extra              133,025   (18.6%)

Total              715,088

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 07, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 6, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,144     (1.8%)
Technician      347,880    (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          166,622   (23.3%)
Advanced         54,654     (7.6%)
Extra              133,059   (18.6%)

Total              715,359

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 20, 2013, 02:19:27 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 19, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,127     (1.8%)
Technician      348,240    (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          166,854   (23.3%)
Advanced         54,587     (7.6%)
Extra              133,199   (18.6%)

Total              716,007

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N4NYY on November 20, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 19, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,127     (1.8%)
Technician      348,240    (48.6%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          166,854   (23.3%)
Advanced         54,587     (7.6%)
Extra              133,199   (18.6%)

Total              716,007

73 de Jim, N2EY

Jim, do old novices renew at Technician? I know Advance can renew at Advanced.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 21, 2013, 11:07:46 AM
Jim, do old novices renew at Technician?

No, they do not.

In fact a Novice gives no upgrade credit towards any other license.

From April 15, 2000 to some time in mid-2010, FCC was renewing all Technician Plus licenses as Technician. That's why the Tech Plus totals are zero. All other license classes stay the same upon renewal or modification (name or address change).

If a currently-licensed Technician can show that s/he held the Technician class license before March 21, 1987, s/he can get a no-test upgrade to General through the VE system. This is done because the Technician and General used the exact same written exam before March 21, 1987. All other upgrades require passing the tests.

I know Advance can renew at Advanced.

The license class name has been "Advanced" since 1951. Before that, it was "Class A".

We are now at the point where more than 90% (9 out of 10) of US hams with current licenses hold either Technician, General or Extra. Fewer than 10% are Novices or Advanceds.


73 de Jim, N2EY




Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 03, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 2, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,116     (1.8%)
Technician      348,776    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          166,974   (23.3%)
Advanced         54,488     (7.6%)
Extra              133,276   (18.6%)

Total              716,630

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WN2C on December 05, 2013, 07:08:04 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 2, 2013 was:

Novice:            13,116     (1.8%)                 
Technician      348,776    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          166,974   (23.3%)
Advanced         54,488     (7.6%)
Extra              133,276   (18.6%)

Total              716,630

73 de Jim, N2EY

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 21, 2010 was:

Novice:            16,134    (2.3%)
Technician      341,643  (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0    (0.0%)
General          154,598  (22.3%) (new all-time high)
Advanced         59,867    (8.6%)
Extra              121,879  (17.6%) (new all-time high)

Total               694,121


Although the total number of hams has increased, the percentages have not changed very much in just over 2 years.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on December 18, 2013, 10:40:32 AM
Since the last Tech Plus license expired on June 10th, 2010 and the two year grace period expired (as of June 10th, 2012) should we just stop counting the tech plus as a category? It is gone-gone-gone and can never come back now. It is impossible for anyone who held one that has expired to apply for a renewal. They would need to re-test inside of the current license classes.



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on December 18, 2013, 11:05:13 AM
agreed, but i think the data is copy & pasted from the FCC site.  Deleting the Tech Plus line of data would be appropriate, but more work.  ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K7RNO on December 21, 2013, 03:54:02 PM
My neighborhood is way out of whack then.
In my zip code (84601), the share of Extras is all of 5.3% (five.three)!

Well, I raised that share to 6.0% today.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on December 24, 2013, 08:34:33 AM
My neighborhood is way out of whack then.
In my zip code (84601), the share of Extras is all of 5.3% (five.three)!

Well, I raised that share to 6.0% today.
Congratulations!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on January 08, 2014, 07:32:39 AM
Anyone know what percentage of US licensed hams have callsign numbers outside of their district of residence? I am just curious as to how far it has moved since back in the day... 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on January 08, 2014, 12:53:27 PM
Anyone know what percentage of US licensed hams have callsign numbers outside of their district of residence? I am just curious as to how far it has moved since back in the day... 
That used to be a statistic on the home page of the now-defunct VanityHQ. The last page I can find archived (on web.archive.org) states "88.40% of hams have call signs which represent their home QTH district."


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on January 08, 2014, 01:16:32 PM
That used to be a statistic on the home page of the now-defunct VanityHQ. The last page I can find archived (on web.archive.org) states "88.40% of hams have call signs which represent their home QTH district."

Thanks for the research & response!  I am surprised it is that high as I thought it would be much lower.  If it is not too much trouble, what was the date of that statistic and was it from an archived Vanity HQ page?

73, and thanks again

Rob K9AIM


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: HURRICAINE on January 08, 2014, 01:26:01 PM
Quote

Agreed! There are some other factors:

1) The difference in privileges between an Advanced and an Extra isn't all that great unless you are interested in certain specific parts of ham radio. What I mean by this is that all the Advanced-to-Extra upgrade gives is some small parts of a couple of HF bands, and a few more choices of vanity call. If an Advanced isn't really interested in those particular things, why bother?


73 de Jim, N2EY

I think Jim that you miss the point entirely.
The point is that you should not just take from amateur radio, you should also give back!
If you only have an advanced class license, you cannot give all classes of license examination as a VE.
This would make me wonder how many Advanced Class Licensee's are VE's and how many of them are just out for themselves.

No point in the ladder was designed to be a stopping point in the ladder of success in Amateur Radio...

Yes a Technician class license will get ( YOU ) on most bands with CW and gives you some phone privileges on 10 meters, but it doesn't permit you to contribute much towards amateur radio as a whole.

Yes an Advanced Class license is slightly better then a General Class License, but does it really prove that you did anything much past getting the license?  I mean, if you are not giving VE test sessions or doing anything much with it beyond rag chewing on the HF, are you really contributing anything towards the good of amateur radio?

When I took my exams, 3 poor people had to sit there and administer those exams to me, and if I chose to take it three times, they sat through all three times, even though they had better things to do.

Those very same people offered me a ride to the next VE test session elsewhere in their own private vehicle just so I could have more opportunities at taking the exam.

If they had chose to stop learning at the Advanced Level, there would have been no one to give me the Amateur Extra Class license exam.

Without frequent license examinations, most people would give up when they got to the General Class License Examination and would think that this is all that there is and this is all that ( I ) need!

Isn't it better to give back something to amateur radio instead of just being the person that takes all the time?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: HURRICAINE on January 08, 2014, 01:59:07 PM
>>The growth in the 1970s was far more than in the 1960s despite the increase in license requirements and the economic troubles. About 33,000 more hams in the 1960s, almost 130,000 - four times more! - in the 1970s. Why?<<

It is a puzzle. Of course there is the baby boom (which you have already mentioned). Many statisticians define this group, to which I belong, as anyone born between 1946 and 1964. The oldest members of this group were about 14 years old in 1960 and the youngest were about 16 years old in 1980. The 1950s, '60s and early '70s when many of us were in High School were a time of worry about the "missile gap" and stress on languages and science in schools --

But the baby boom data do not explain why, in the United States, the ham population grew a lot more in the 1970s than '60s. The opposite should have happened, because the biggest "baby bulge" came in the years immediately after WWII. About the only (really lame) explanation I can think of is that, in the lingo of the times, ham radio might have been less "groovy" among the politically activist 1960s teenagers than among the recession-hit 1970s cohort.

Some other factors:

1) In the USA in the 1960s, cb radio was growing by leaps and bounds, and initially probably distracted many potential hams.

2) One of the most-common ways people learned about amateur radio used to be hearing amateurs using AM 'phone on "shortwave" receivers. But by the 1960s US interest in SWLing was beginning to decline. More important, large numbers of US hams had switched from AM to SSB, which typical SW receivers could not demodulate easily. So that method
of spreading the word decreased.  

4) From 1957 to the early 1960s, the USSR led in the "space race", making most of the "firsts" in space. But once the USA got going, the gap closed, with more and more impressive manned and unmanned successes in space. Finally the USA "won" the race by sending humans to the moon in 1969. In the USA, all this happened live on TV.

With such rapid progress in space, amateur radio seemed to many to be "old hat" even in the 1960s. How could terrestrial HF DX be "leading edge" when we were watching astronauts on the moon live on TV, or seeing pictures of Mars sent back over tens of millions of miles from unmanned probes?

73 de Jim, N2EY

Jim,
Where did the technology come from - to get those videos from the moon to the earth with a limited amount of expenditure of power from the space capsule to send those video's?

SSTV - which came from the Amateur Radio.....


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: HURRICAINE on January 08, 2014, 02:38:16 PM
Depends on how old the youngest Advanced licensee is, whether or not any of those Advanced class upgrade---and whether or not the FCC changes the regs and eliminates the Advanced class altogether!  (Remember, they've done something like that before.)

The FCC has done something similar only twice.

First, in the 1970s they eliminated the Conditional class. Then in the 2000s they eliminated the Technician Plus class.

In both cases the elimination was handled by changing the license class when the license was renewed or modified. Conditionals became Generals, Technician Pluses became Technicians. But nobody got additional operating privileges from the change.

So hanging on to an Advanced in the hope of a no-test upgrade to Extra is a very long shot. There are no proposals pending to change the way things are.

---

As can be seen, the number of US hams with an Advanced or Novice is now less than 10% of the total, and is steadily dropping. AFAIK it costs FCC practically nothing to keep these old license classes separate in the database. So they will simply let time do the job.

Fun historical fact:

The FCC closed the Advanced to new issues at the end of 1952 and reopened it in 1967. IIRC, the reopen date was Nov. 22 1967 (but don't take that as absolute fact). So the Advanced was closed to new issues for 14 years, 10 months and 22 days the first time.

The FCC reclosed the Advanced to new issues on April 15, 2000. As of this writing, it's been closed off 12 years, 10 months and 6 days.

73 de Jim, N2EY

But Jim, if you remember back to the 1950's, when there was only two classes of license, a Technician type license and a General class license.  The General Class license had all privileges.
When the multi tiered license came about, had they demoted the General to just the General Class bands, they would have taken away license privileges.  So in fact the change was 3 times and not two.
When they went to the multi tiered license system, they had to Grandfather in all General's as Amateur Extra's, else they would have lost license privileges.  My Elmer friend had told me this story on many occasions.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: HURRICAINE on January 08, 2014, 06:14:32 PM
Depends on how old the youngest Advanced licensee is, whether or not any of those Advanced class upgrade---and whether or not the FCC changes the regs and eliminates the Advanced class altogether!  (Remember, they've done something like that before.)

The FCC has done something similar only twice.

First, in the 1970s they eliminated the Conditional class. Then in the 2000s they eliminated the Technician Plus class.

In both cases the elimination was handled by changing the license class when the license was renewed or modified. Conditionals became Generals, Technician Pluses became Technicians. But nobody got additional operating privileges from the change.

So hanging on to an Advanced in the hope of a no-test upgrade to Extra is a very long shot. There are no proposals pending to change the way things are.

---

As can be seen, the number of US hams with an Advanced or Novice is now less than 10% of the total, and is steadily dropping. AFAIK it costs FCC practically nothing to keep these old license classes separate in the database. So they will simply let time do the job.

Fun historical fact:

The FCC closed the Advanced to new issues at the end of 1952 and reopened it in 1967. IIRC, the reopen date was Nov. 22 1967 (but don't take that as absolute fact). So the Advanced was closed to new issues for 14 years, 10 months and 22 days the first time.

The FCC reclosed the Advanced to new issues on April 15, 2000. As of this writing, it's been closed off 12 years, 10 months and 6 days.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Your right, my friend changed his story, guess he must have sobered up or something.  That is the problem with listening to the stories told by these old hams!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 09, 2014, 03:32:29 PM
But Jim, if you remember back to the 1950's, when there was only two classes of license, a Technician type license and a General class license.  The General Class license had all privileges.
When the multi tiered license came about, had they demoted the General to just the General Class bands, they would have taken away license privileges.  So in fact the change was 3 times and not two.
When they went to the multi tiered license system, they had to Grandfather in all General's as Amateur Extra's, else they would have lost license privileges.  My Elmer friend had told me this story on many occasions.

There are so many mistakes in that short little post that it's hard to know where to begin. Either your Elmer didn't know what he was talking about, or you misunderstood.

In the 1950s there was never a situation where there were only two license classes in the USA. Never.

Before the 1951 restructuring, there were three license classes: A, B and C. After the restructuring, there were six: Novice, Technician, General (old Class B renamed), Conditional (old Class C, renamed), Advanced (old Class A, renamed), and Extra.

Before February 16, 1953, you needed an Advanced/Class A or Extra to operate 'phone on the ham bands between 2.5 and 25 MHz. Generals had no voice privileges on those bands. None at all.

In late 1952 the FCC changed their mind and gave all privileges to Conditionals and Generals. But Novices and Technicians still had limited privileges.

The changes of the 1960s that became known as "incentive licensing" were an attempt to get back to the pre-1953 sort of system. A lot of hams lost privileges - I was one of them, having earned my Advanced in the summer of 1968. I got full privileges in 1970 by passing the Extra. (In those days you needed two years' experience as a General, Conditional or Advanced just to take the Extra test).

There's a lot more to the story.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on January 10, 2014, 05:07:16 AM
That used to be a statistic on the home page of the now-defunct VanityHQ. The last page I can find archived (on web.archive.org) states "88.40% of hams have call signs which represent their home QTH district."

Thanks for the research & response!  I am surprised it is that high as I thought it would be much lower.  If it is not too much trouble, what was the date of that statistic and was it from an archived Vanity HQ page?

73, and thanks again

Rob K9AIM
I think it was late spring or early summer, e.g. May or June last year.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 10, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 9, 2014 was:

Novice:            13,072     (1.8%)
Technician      349,366    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          167,276   (23.3%)
Advanced         54,212     (7.6%)
Extra              133,442   (18.6%)

Total              717,368

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 24, 2014, 01:53:28 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 23, 2014 was:

Novice:            13,051     (1.8%)
Technician      349,494    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          167,374   (23.3%)
Advanced         54,056     (7.5%)
Extra              133,566   (18.6%)

Total              717,541

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 03, 2014, 02:34:32 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 1, 2014 was:

Novice:            13,032     (1.8%)
Technician      349,692    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          167,411   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,965     (7.5%)
Extra              133,594   (18.6%)

Total              717,694

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 04, 2014, 02:51:48 PM

From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 3, 2014 was:

Novice:            13,029     (1.8%)
Technician      349,971    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          167,472   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,958     (7.5%)
Extra              133,648   (18.6%)

Total              718,078

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 02, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 1, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,988     (1.8%)
Technician      350,868    (48.7%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          167,690   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,748     (7.5%)
Extra              133,881   (18.6%)

Total              719,175

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 12, 2014, 02:04:48 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 11, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,978     (1.8%)
Technician      351,559    (48.8%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          167,845   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,711     (7.5%)
Extra              134,021   (18.6%)

Total              720,114

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 28, 2014, 01:17:20 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 27, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,918     (1.8%)
Technician      352,399    (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,005   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,506     (7.4%)
Extra              134,196   (18.6%)

Total              721,024

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 11, 2014, 11:53:35 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 10, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,865     (1.8%)
Technician      352,642    (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,030   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,302     (7.4%)
Extra              134,209   (18.6%)

Total              721,048

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 23, 2014, 02:19:43 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 22, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,812     (1.8%)
Technician      352,959    (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,092   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,192     (7.4%)
Extra              134,300   (18.6%)

Total              721,355

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 25, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 24, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,811     (1.8%)
Technician      353,321    (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,199   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,190     (7.4%)
Extra              134,367   (18.6%)

Total              721,888

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 30, 2014, 08:43:18 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 29, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,801     (1.8%)
Technician      353,378    (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,227   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,155     (7.4%)
Extra              134,399   (18.6%)

Total              721,960

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 01, 2014, 07:48:16 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 30, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,802     (1.8%)
Technician      353,532    (48.9%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,295   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,155     (7.4%)
Extra              134,447   (18.6%)

Total              722,231

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 05, 2014, 05:38:50 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 4, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,797     (1.8%)
Technician      353,852    (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,402   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,138     (7.4%)
Extra              134,493   (18.6%)

Total              722,682

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 07, 2014, 12:57:44 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 6, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,794     (1.8%)
Technician      353,977    (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,444   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,135     (7.4%)
Extra              134,528   (18.6%)

Total              722,878

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 08, 2014, 03:05:41 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 7, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,794     (1.8%)
Technician      354,073    (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,474   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,134     (7.3%)
Extra              134,540   (18.6%)

Total              723,015

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 14, 2014, 12:45:27 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 13, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,766     (1.8%)
Technician      354,340    (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,482   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,075     (7.3%)
Extra              134,577   (18.6%)

Total              723,240

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 15, 2014, 08:58:02 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 14, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,766     (1.8%)
Technician      354,476    (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,529   (23.3%)
Advanced         53,077     (7.3%)
Extra              134,608   (18.6%)

Total              723,456

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on May 15, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 13, 2014 was:
...
Advanced         53,075     (7.3%)
...
the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 14, 2014 was:
...
Advanced         53,077     (7.3%)
...

Interesting. I think this is the first time I've seen the number of unexpired Advanced licensees go up, indicating more renewals of expired-but-within-grace licenses than expirations and upgrades.



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 16, 2014, 06:20:48 AM
the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 13, 2014 was:
...
Advanced         53,075     (7.3%)
...
the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 14, 2014 was:
...
Advanced         53,077     (7.3%)
...

Interesting. I think this is the first time I've seen the number of unexpired Advanced licensees go up, indicating more renewals of expired-but-within-grace licenses than expirations and upgrades.



I've seen it happen before, to both Novices and Advanceds. The two-year grace period is a long time!

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 21, 2014, 06:46:26 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 20, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,748     (1.8%)
Technician      354,630    (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,556   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,996     (7.3%)
Extra              134,659   (18.6%)

Total              723,589

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 22, 2014, 09:19:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 21, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,748     (1.8%)
Technician      354,762    (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,604   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,991     (7.3%)
Extra              134,685   (18.6%)

Total              723,790

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 23, 2014, 10:57:30 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 22, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,748     (1.8%)
Technician      354,842    (49.0%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,650   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,993     (7.3%)
Extra              134,704   (18.6%)

Total              723,937

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 12, 2014, 06:29:02 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 11, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,650     (1.7%)
Technician      355,527    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,511   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,709     (7.3%)
Extra              134,780   (18.6%)

Total              724,177

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K1ZJH on June 12, 2014, 09:00:48 AM
The FCC license counts are meaningless.

Here is the problem.  The majority of hams are getting on in years. This is NOT a young person's hobby.

The impimentation of the 10 year licensing renewal period has resulted in thousands of deceased hams being shown as being licensed, with unexpired licenses.

This skews the numbers... I'm sure a few die hards are going to jump in to try and dispute what I'm saying, but the fact remains is that I know of many hams who are still shown on the FCC database as being licensed. The sad part is that many were friends of mine who have past away in the past several years.

Has anyone ever noticed the large number of elderly licenses with lapsed licenses? 

Pete   k1zjh


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 13, 2014, 07:04:42 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 12, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,650     (1.7%)
Technician      355,614    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,538   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,711     (7.3%)
Extra              134,808   (18.6%)

Total              724,321

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 18, 2014, 11:36:56 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 17, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,618     (1.7%)
Technician      355,624    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,574   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,665     (7.3%)
Extra              134,849   (18.6%)

Total              724,330

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 19, 2014, 08:11:08 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 18, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,617     (1.7%)
Technician      355,776    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,647   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,661     (7.3%)
Extra              134,890   (18.6%)

Total              724,591

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K1ZJH on June 19, 2014, 08:31:05 AM
Those numbers might get better if previously licensed hams could get their licenses back without retesting....

Pete   ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 20, 2014, 08:55:05 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 19, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,615     (1.7%)
Technician      355,820    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,680   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,662     (7.3%)
Extra              134,913   (18.6%)

Total              724,690

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 24, 2014, 06:45:49 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 24, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,610     (1.7%)
Technician      355,826    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,716   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,659     (7.3%)
Extra              134,947   (18.6%)

Total              724,758

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 26, 2014, 06:23:24 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 25, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,610     (1.7%)
Technician      355,975    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,735   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,661     (7.3%)
Extra              134,965   (18.6%)

Total              724,946

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 27, 2014, 10:24:41 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 26, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,612     (1.7%)
Technician      356,088    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,780   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,663     (7.3%)
Extra              134,987   (18.6%)

Total              725,130

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 30, 2014, 01:59:26 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 28, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,609     (1.7%)
Technician      356,135    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,808   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,661     (7.3%)
Extra              135,001   (18.6%)

Total              725,214

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 01, 2014, 10:30:12 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 30, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,606     (1.7%)
Technician      356,224    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,830   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,658     (7.3%)
Extra              135,010   (18.6%)

Total              725,328

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 02, 2014, 08:49:43 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 1, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,606     (1.7%)
Technician      356,323    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,859   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,661     (7.3%)
Extra              135,042   (18.6%)

Total              725,491

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 03, 2014, 08:56:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 2, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,605     (1.7%)
Technician      356,487    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,901   (23.3%)
Advanced         52,657     (7.3%)
Extra              135,058   (18.6%)

Total              725,708

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 03, 2014, 07:54:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 1, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,238     (1.7%)
Technician      355,581    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,847   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,700     (7.1%)
Extra              135,671   (18.7%)

Total              724,037

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AB9NZ on October 03, 2014, 06:25:45 PM
We lost 745 hams!?!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on October 04, 2014, 04:43:26 AM
We lost 745 hams!?!

bad news: all license class totals except one decreased
good news: number of Extras continues to rise and 700,000+ is A LOT of US hams

We lost quite a few Novices... but maybe next month will see a new upswing in overall total.
is this the first downturn in years? (i'm too lazy to scroll  :D )  


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N0IU on October 04, 2014, 05:49:11 AM
We lost 745 hams!?!

We didn't lose them. We know where they are.

(http://www.brainerd.net/~evergreencem/eg_summer_3.jpg)

Of course there are also those who let their license lapse. And the number of Novices and Advanced license holders can only go down, either by death, not renewing or by upgrading.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on October 06, 2014, 10:42:01 AM
We lost 745 hams!?!
More like 1688 hams

Even a day later (4th, Oct) the numbers declined further;

Novice:             12,219  
Technician      355,601
Technician Plus         0  
General          168,841
Advanced         51,682
Extra               135,677

Total              724,020

Shows that affordable health care works!  :D


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 07, 2014, 07:52:34 AM
We lost 745 hams!?!

Yes, we did.

It should be noted that the totals posted are for current, unexpired licenses held by individuals. They are updated at least daily by ARRL, based on FCC data.

This means the number fluctuates wildly from day to day. If someone lets their license get into the grace period, even for a day or two, they are not counted. If a whole bunch of renewals-in-the-grace-period or new licenses are processed, the number soars.

The variations are sometimes quite large - which is why I don't post more often.

If you look short-term, the numbers can be misleading. Step back and look long-term, and a pattern becomes clear.

It's not just hams dying, either. Some folks get a license-in-a-day and never use it. Some are licensed, try out amateur radio and find it's not for them. Some got licenses years ago for honeydew reasons, but now they have cell phones.

Also, the 10 year license term and changes in the renewal method have caused more than a few hams to unintentionally let their licenses get into the grace period - or beyond.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 13, 2014, 05:57:54 AM
We lost 745 hams!?!
More like 1688 hams

Even a day later (4th, Oct) the numbers declined further;

Novice:             12,219  
Technician      355,601
Technician Plus         0  
General          168,841
Advanced         51,682
Extra               135,677

Total              724,020


And now they're up again:

October 12 2014

Novice:            12,221 
Technician      355,838
Technician Plus         0 
General          168,936
Advanced         51,665
Extra             135,750

Total             724,410

The numbers fluctuate from day to day, with downturns and upturns of several hundred being common.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on October 13, 2014, 09:07:28 AM
And now they're up again:

^that^ was predictable  ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 13, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
And now they're up again:

^that^ was predictable  ;)

Exactly!

If you look at the numbers day-to-day, they bounce around a LOT.

If you look at the long-term trends, you get a different picture completely.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 16, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 15, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,220     (1.7%)
Technician      355,888    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          168,957   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,656     (7.1%)
Extra              135,768   (18.7%)

Total              724,489

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 17, 2014, 09:44:09 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 16, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,220     (1.7%)
Technician      355,979    (49.1%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,006   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,655     (7.1%)
Extra              135,803   (18.7%)

Total              724,663

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 06, 2014, 11:52:11 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 5, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,154     (1.7%)
Technician      356,335    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,055   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,430     (7.1%)
Extra              135,945   (18.7%)

Total              724,919

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 07, 2014, 01:59:02 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 6, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,154     (1.7%)
Technician      356,452    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,091   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,423     (7.1%)
Extra              135,974   (18.7%)

Total              725,094

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 10, 2014, 01:10:51 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 8, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,154     (1.7%)
Technician      356,458    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,105   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,406     (7.1%)
Extra              135,990   (18.7%)

Total              725,106

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 11, 2014, 07:16:04 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 10, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,147     (1.7%)
Technician      356,475    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,115   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,406     (7.1%)
Extra              135,999   (18.7%)

Total              725,142

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 13, 2014, 02:12:46 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 12, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,149     (1.7%)
Technician      356,527    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,157   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,404     (7.1%)
Extra              136,009   (18.7%)

Total              725,246

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 14, 2014, 06:37:58 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 13, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,149     (1.7%)
Technician      356,735    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,209   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,402     (7.1%)
Extra              136,068   (18.7%)

Total              725,563

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 19, 2014, 10:43:15 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 18, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,138     (1.7%)
Technician      356,745    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,266   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,364     (7.1%)
Extra              136,100   (18.7%)

Total              725,613

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 20, 2014, 12:56:49 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 19, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,138     (1.7%)
Technician      356,825    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,281   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,366     (7.1%)
Extra              136,118   (18.7%)

Total              725,728

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WN2C on November 20, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
OK, I don't get it. How are there 2 more Advanced holders on the 20th than on the 19th if the FCC is not issuing new ones?

Rick  WN2C


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on November 21, 2014, 06:18:37 AM
OK, I don't get it. How are there 2 more Advanced holders on the 20th than on the 19th if the FCC is not issuing new ones?

Rick  WN2C

These numbers are "unexpired" licenses. But there's a two-year grace period when an expired license holder can renew without retesting.

So the explanation is that on the 19th of November, some expired-but-within-grace licensees renewed. There were two more renewals that day than there were new expired licenses, so the count goes up.

This really isn't very rare. Jim (N2EY) and I discussed this a bit back in May (see page 15 of this thread). If you look at weekly or monthly numbers, it's clear (and true) that the overall trend is downward. But on a day-by-day basis, the numbers increase often, perhaps even 50% of the time. (Back in May I expressed surprise, but I've gone back and looked at this based on the info in this thread to draw that conclusion.)

And it isn't really very surprising once you think about it. The renewal window only starts 90 days before expiration, but extends until two years after. It doesn't take too many "grace renewals" to exceed the "didn't renew in time" cases.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 21, 2014, 06:54:51 AM
OK, I don't get it. How are there 2 more Advanced holders on the 20th than on the 19th if the FCC is not issuing new ones?

Rick  WN2C

As W3HF explains: Renewals in the grace period.

Note that the numbers from ARRL include ONLY current, unexpired licenses held by individuals. No club or other group licenses, no expired-but-in-the-grace-period licenses, etc. Only individuals with licenses that are current.

Some other license-totals sources include clubs, expired, and other licenses, getting far higher numbers.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WW7KE on November 21, 2014, 10:17:42 AM
OK, I don't get it. How are there 2 more Advanced holders on the 20th than on the 19th if the FCC is not issuing new ones?

And why are they still listing Tech Plus?  The last one expired (or was converted to Technician upon renewal) in June 2010.

http://www.arrl.org/news/the-last-tech-plus-license-to-expire-in-june


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KG6WTF on November 21, 2014, 11:53:45 PM
Howdy!

Count plus one in General.

Passed my test tonight at Mt Diablo Radio Club in Lafayette CA. (http://www.mdarc.org/)

The 3 VE were:
Mark K6OZZ
James AF6PU
James N6BHX

I got 33/35 in less than 10 minutes. ....Many thanks to:  https://hamstudy.org/general2011 (https://hamstudy.org/general2011)

Going for extra next month!

73's all.
Carl - KG6WTF







Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on November 22, 2014, 10:11:36 AM
congrats!  consider using www.hamtestonline.com (http://www.hamtestonline.com) to speed up attainment of the Extra ;)

hope to cu down the log,

73



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 25, 2014, 12:05:58 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 24, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,116     (1.7%)
Technician      356,962    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,271   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,263     (7.1%)
Extra              136,163   (18.7%)

Total              725,775

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 26, 2014, 11:05:13 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 25, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,117     (1.7%)
Technician      357,071    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,321   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,265     (7.1%)
Extra              136,193   (18.7%)

Total              725,967

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 02, 2014, 12:21:56 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 1, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,108     (1.7%)
Technician      357,012    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,387   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,245     (7.1%)
Extra              136,225   (18.7%)

Total              725,977

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 03, 2014, 12:12:49 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 2, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,108     (1.7%)
Technician      357,129    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,442   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,247     (7.1%)
Extra              136,248   (18.7%)

Total              726,174

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 04, 2014, 09:42:01 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 3, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,108     (1.7%)
Technician      357,154    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,472   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,246     (7.1%)
Extra              136,244   (18.7%)

Total              726,224

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 05, 2014, 10:33:06 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 4, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,107     (1.7%)
Technician      357,224    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,496   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,245     (7.1%)
Extra              136,262   (18.7%)

Total              726,334

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 19, 2014, 10:53:43 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 18, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,078     (1.7%)
Technician      357,247    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,513   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,150     (7.1%)
Extra              136,362   (18.7%)

Total              726,350

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 30, 2014, 08:19:13 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 29, 2014 was:

Novice:            12,041     (1.7%)
Technician      357,310    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,571   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,070     (7.0%)
Extra              136,434   (18.7%)

Total              726,426

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K1ZJH on December 30, 2014, 09:43:01 AM
I hate to be negative... but those counts are bogus.

We have an aging ham population, and the FCC changed licensing periods to ten years.  Since many of my ham friends are as old, or older than I am, I unfortunately (and with great sadness) note a very large number of hams who have passed and who are yet still shown as being licensed amateur radio ops.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K4ISR on December 30, 2014, 10:22:22 AM
I hate to be negative... but those counts are bogus.

We have an aging ham population, and the FCC changed licensing periods to ten years.  Since many of my ham friends are as old, or older than I am, I unfortunately (and with great sadness) note a very large number of hams who have passed and who are yet still shown as being licensed amateur radio ops.

In my lower population area (120,000 in the county), there is on average 10 new hams every month, and almost all of them are age 30-50. Expand that across the state or nation and there are a lot of new hams coming in, far more than are dying from old age. Even if they removed hams the day they die, there would still be an approximate increase of 40-50 per day, or at least 14,000 new hams per year.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on December 30, 2014, 11:25:09 AM
I hate to be negative... but those counts are bogus.

We have an aging ham population, and the FCC changed licensing periods to ten years.  Since many of my ham friends are as old, or older than I am, I unfortunately (and with great sadness) note a very large number of hams who have passed and who are yet still shown as being licensed amateur radio ops.

In my lower population area (120,000 in the county), there is on average 10 new hams every month, and almost all of them are age 30-50. Expand that across the state or nation and there are a lot of new hams coming in, far more than are dying from old age. Even if they removed hams the day they die, there would still be an approximate increase of 40-50 per day, or at least 14,000 new hams per year.

Yes, there are many deceased hams still in the database. And it's a reasonable assumption that the number of deceased hams is greater with ten-year terms than it was with five-year terms. But the transition from five-year licenses to ten-year licenses was started over 30 years ago, and completed 25 years ago. So any "transition effects" due to an increased number of deceased hams (due to retention in the license data base) are long since gone.

The general trend in US licenses over the past four decades has been an increase in the total number, with only occasional "blips". Even with an aging population, that long-term trend can only be explained with more new licensees than there are SKs.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 02, 2015, 01:58:19 PM
I hate to be negative... but those counts are bogus.

We have an aging ham population, and the FCC changed licensing periods to ten years.  Since many of my ham friends are as old, or older than I am, I unfortunately (and with great sadness) note a very large number of hams who have passed and who are yet still shown as being licensed amateur radio ops.

They're not bogus at all. Here's why:

The FCC changed to 10 year license terms back in 1984 - more than 30 years ago! Since then, we've had a lot of new hams, and a lot of amateurs pass away, but the newcomers still outnumber the SKs.

Sure, some of the licensees in the database are dead, or have lost interest to the point that they'll never come back. But, over time, they'll simply be dropped when their licenses expire.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 02, 2015, 01:59:28 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 1, 2015 was:

Novice:            12,045     (1.7%)
Technician      357,401    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,596   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,079     (7.0%)
Extra              136,448   (18.7%)

Total              726,569

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 07, 2015, 06:33:54 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 6, 2015 was:

Novice:            12,040     (1.7%)
Technician      357,429    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,640   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,048     (7.0%)
Extra              136,485   (18.7%)

Total              726,642

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on January 07, 2015, 09:16:28 AM
Here is a graphical representation of the data that Jim, N2EY has been providing over the past few years;

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah216/TishTishie/LicenseCounts_zps9b821f77.jpg)

http://www.picpaste.com/License_Counts-RSJiV35P.PNG

You can see the gradual decline of Novice and Advanced license holders on the bottom two lines. Fairly constant decay, nothing surprising there.

Looking at General and Extra in the middle of the chart; There are more generals than extras but even more interesting is that the two lines track parallel to each other. The pace is the same, not a sudden jump in the percentage of people who go to extra class.

Technician had an interesting uptick over the past year. The rate of earning a tech license increased (see how the slope changes in 2014?). This is a good thing, somewhere along the line there is a slight increase of people who are willing to make an entry into amateur radio.

What would be nice to see is a increase in the rate of amateurs earning a general class license. You would think that after a year or two in the hobby, that the technicians should show a change in rate when a greater number of them upgrade their licenses. This remains to be seen but if it does not happen it indicates that we are not doing a good enough job of elmer'ing along these new hams into the more technical aspects of the hobby and on to HF.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N0IU on January 07, 2015, 07:45:12 PM
What would be nice to see is a increase in the rate of amateurs earning a general class license. You would think that after a year or two in the hobby, that the technicians should show a change in rate when a greater number of them upgrade their licenses. This remains to be seen but if it does not happen it indicates that we are not doing a good enough job of elmer'ing along these new hams into the more technical aspects of the hobby and on to HF.

But how can we "Elmer" these people if we don't know who they are and where they are? Unlike me (and probably you), no one had to sell me on amateur radio. I was always kind of a "techie" and from reading the "Popular" magazines along with things like Nuts & Volts, I had read enough about shortwave and amateur radio that it didn't take long to realize that it was something I wanted to pursue. It seemed like the perfect outlet for the interest in technology I already had. IOW, I found amateur radio, it did not have to come looking for me!

I think there is a huge segment of Technicians who do not have any real interest in the technological side of what we do. They were sold on amateur radio through things like CERT programs, the "prepper" movement and things like that. They buy their $29 Baofeng HT and end up being disappointed in the fact that there is virtually no activity on repeaters any more and they soon become disenchanted with the teenie tiny little bit of amateur radio they have experienced and it doesn't take long for them to abandon it. These people are simply not interested in amateur radio for amateur radio's sake.

I don't think any amount of Elmering is going to work on some people.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W9FIB on January 08, 2015, 03:54:40 AM
N0IU, I agree with what your saying and would add this. Some never achieve due to coming to forums like this looking for information and get bashed for not passing a code test.

I would also add that it is discouraging to them when they ask questions and half of the thread is people saying how stupid the question is. Or get ripped to pieces when they make a legitimate comment.

AA4HA, thanks for the graph. It does a much better job of showing trends then raw numbers.

I agree with elmering. But in today's world of hyper social media, many of the younger would rather use that then be face to face to get information. The internet has changed the way people learn. I think we all need to do a better job of elmering here as well as face to face. And to those that do...Thank You!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on January 08, 2015, 11:32:38 AM
The graph helped identify a few things to me. The upward tick in tech licenses was a little surprising. There was either some sort of phenomena that caused an increased level of awareness amongst people who are new to the hobby (like a popular television show) or some sort of social change (preppers, zombie apocalypse <lol>).

What I was looking for was a tick in either direction when a new question pool came out for different license classes. Maybe I just did not have enough data going back for enough years to see a glitch. It could also be that the impact of a new question pool and study guides has no bearing upon license grants. That too would of surprised me.

I did not use every sample of licensing information. I grabbed what was closest to a month interval of data captured by N2EY. The intervals are somewhat irregular and there were times when we would not show updated info on the forum.

I would assume (hope) that someone at ARRL also keeps some sort of tracking like this, probably based on weekly information. If not, then how could they make any kind of judgment in how they spend money and time in public awareness campaigns. After all, if they are the national advocates for our hobby I would hope that they have some sort of way of identifying that they are spending our dues wisely. (yes, laugh, laugh at me, for my foolish optimism).


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 08, 2015, 02:03:22 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 7, 2015 was:

Novice:            12,040     (1.7%)
Technician      357,453    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,656   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,052     (7.0%)
Extra              136,502   (18.7%)

Total              726,703

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 09, 2015, 08:20:42 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 8, 2015 was:

Novice:            12,040     (1.7%)
Technician      357,502    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,671   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,056     (7.0%)
Extra              136,508   (18.7%)

Total              726,777

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on January 10, 2015, 09:47:30 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 8, 2015 was:

Novice:            12,040     (1.7%)
Technician      357,502    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,671   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,056     (7.0%)
Extra              136,508   (18.7%)

Total              726,777

73 de Jim, N2EY

it is interesting that the number of Extras or Generals is presently only about 3 times the number of Advanced class licensees.

Anyone know what the spread was when the Advanced was still being issued and when the Extra still required 20wpm code proficiency?

or how about back when it was class A, B, and C?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on January 10, 2015, 09:58:31 AM
okay, i did find this upthread...   :-\


To show some longer-term trends, here are the numbers from May 14, 2000 & Feb 22 2007:

As of May 14, 2000:
 
Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of February 22, 2007:

Novice - 22,896 (3.5%)
Technician - 293,508 (44.8%)
Technician Plus - 30,818 (4.7%)
General - 130,138 (19.9%)
Advanced - 69,050 (10.5%)
Extra - 108,270 (16.5%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 324,326 (49.5%)

Total all classes - 654,680



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 13, 2015, 02:47:35 PM
Here is a graphical representation of the data that Jim, N2EY has been providing over the past few years;

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah216/TishTishie/LicenseCounts_zps9b821f77.jpg)

http://www.picpaste.com/License_Counts-RSJiV35P.PNG

You can see the gradual decline of Novice and Advanced license holders on the bottom two lines. Fairly constant decay, nothing surprising there.

Looking at General and Extra in the middle of the chart; There are more generals than extras but even more interesting is that the two lines track parallel to each other. The pace is the same, not a sudden jump in the percentage of people who go to extra class.

Technician had an interesting uptick over the past year. The rate of earning a tech license increased (see how the slope changes in 2014?). This is a good thing, somewhere along the line there is a slight increase of people who are willing to make an entry into amateur radio.

What would be nice to see is a increase in the rate of amateurs earning a general class license. You would think that after a year or two in the hobby, that the technicians should show a change in rate when a greater number of them upgrade their licenses. This remains to be seen but if it does not happen it indicates that we are not doing a good enough job of elmer'ing along these new hams into the more technical aspects of the hobby and on to HF.

Thanks for the graph, Tisha!

Having watched the numbers for many years, here's what I think is going on:

1) The Advanced and Novice have been declining by attrition (obviously). The Novice has been declining much faster because there are so many upgrades possible for a Novice, and the added privileges are huge. The Advanced has been declining more slowly because the only upgrade is to Extra, and the added privileges aren't much.

2) The Technician is a mixed bag. It includes newcomers, folks who once held a Tech Plus, folks who got a license for whatever reason and are inactive, folks whose only interest is above 30 MHz, and much more.

For example, around here, back in the 1980s-90s, we got a huge surge of "honeydew hams". These were folks who got Technicians in order to use the local repeaters and autopatch as a personal radio service. Nothing wrong with that! Some went on to do other things with amateur radio - but many didn't. And when cell phones became common and inexpensive, they disappeared from the repeaters.

3) License terms are 10 years and renewal is free and easy. I suspect a lot of folks simply renew their licenses "just in case" - nothing to lose, really.

4) There is no way to know exactly how many of the licenses are silent keys. Unless someone informs FCC of an amateur's passing, their license could still show up as current and unexpired for up to 10 years. If a database is used which includes grace-period licenses, that's 12 years.

----

True story: Some time back, on an online forum, a woman posted that she had just renewed her late husband's license. It turned out that he'd been dead for several years! But she didn't want anyone else using his call, so she renewed the license when it expired. (His call was a 2x3). So he'll show up in the license totals for another decade...

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 14, 2015, 07:09:36 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 8, 2015 was:

Novice:            12,040     (1.7%)
Technician      357,502    (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,671   (23.3%)
Advanced         51,056     (7.0%)
Extra              136,508   (18.7%)

Total              726,777

73 de Jim, N2EY

it is interesting that the number of Extras or Generals is presently only about 3 times the number of Advanced class licensees.

As you have seen, that's been changing rather dramatically since April 2000.

Anyone know what the spread was when the Advanced was still being issued and when the Extra still required 20wpm code proficiency?

The May 2000 figures are a good indicator of what the numbers were at the end of the era when Advanced and Novice were being issued. By then, the backlog from April 15, 2000 was pretty much gone. (April 15 2000 is when the rules changed, and FCC was flooded with license activity around that date).

It should be remembered that, in 1990, FCC created "medical waivers" for the 13 and 20 wpm code tests. All it took to get a waiver was a letter signed by any MD or DO saying that it would take "longer than normal" for the person to learn code well enough to pass the test.

The doctor didn't have to be a specialist of any kind. No medical condition had to be specified. The condition didn't have to be permanent. The letter could just be a simple one-paragraph thing written by the patient and signed by a doctor.

AFAIK, nobody was ever denied a medical waiver if they had a letter. Nobody.

What this meant was that the code test speed for all licenses effectively went to 5 wpm in 1990.

or how about back when it was class A, B, and C?

That ended in 1951. The only source would be old Callbooks.

However, there is this:

In QST for December, 1963, page 84, there appeared a copy of the totals page of the Callbook (used with permission).

The license classes held by individuals in the 48 CONUS states broke down like this:


Novice - 16,795 (6.6%)

Technician - 58,656 (23.1%)
 
Conditional - 40,259 (15.8%)
 
General - 95,250 (37.4%)
 
Advanced - 40,296 (15.8%)

Extra - 3,164 (1.2%)

Total (48 states) - 254,420

The total number of individuals with licenses in Hawaii, Alaska and other US possessions and territories was 4,167, but they are not broken down by license class.

There were also 2,976 club licenses, 1,766 military licenses, and 2,873 second station licenses in the 48 states.

It should be remembered that, in 1963, the General, Conditional, Advanced and Extra all had full privileges - and it had been that way for ten years. Also, no new Advanceds had been issued since the end of 1952, and the Novice was only good for a year and was nonrenewable and "nonretakeable".

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 18, 2015, 07:30:05 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 17, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,878     (1.6%)
Technician      358,003    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,684   (23.3%)
Advanced         50,559     (7.0%)
Extra              136,708   (18.8%)

Total              726,832

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 19, 2015, 08:51:37 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 18, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,879     (1.6%)
Technician      358,078    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,737   (23.3%)
Advanced         50,565     (7.0%)
Extra              136,739   (18.8%)

Total              726,998

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 20, 2015, 10:05:07 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 19, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,878     (1.6%)
Technician      358,161    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,791   (23.3%)
Advanced         50,564     (7.0%)
Extra              136,777   (18.8%)

Total              727,171

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 27, 2015, 09:34:02 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 26, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,857     (1.6%)
Technician      358,218    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,844   (23.3%)
Advanced         50,495     (6.9%)
Extra              136,884   (18.8%)

Total              727,298

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KC2QYM on February 27, 2015, 12:24:33 PM
Interesting thread and discussion points.  But I have another angle on this.  I will never dissuade anyone from pursuing an interest in amateur radio and do bring up the subject with many of my non-ham friends all the time.  I have invited friends to my club's field day site, to my shack, etc.  I ask them if they would be interested in pursuing the idea of becoming a ham.  To a man they all say it's interesting but that it wouldn't develop into anything that they would or could dedicate their time to. They all have other interests and commitments and they don't see themselves motivated to put up antennas and sit around seeking contacts with people they don't know.  Many of these friends spent some part of their earlier years playing with CB radios, some had base stations, mobiles, etc.  They see ham radio as a kid's or old man's couch potato hobby.  I can't completely blame them for that impression.  There is an investment when you get started in a hobby; I would say that you could get started in ham radio VHF/UHF/HF used rig with wire antennas and minor accessories for about $1000. Many guys don't want to spend any money on what they see is not a cheap hobby to get into and stay in.  Most people today are not impressed with little boxes that enable you to speak with people around the world.  When my friends came over to my shack they were surprised that the DX I was working did not engage in a conversation but just a quick signal report and 73.  I could see after the first few contacts they were bored.  And so was I quite honestly.  Very few DX stations are willing or able to ragchew for a few minutes with you.  I find that very disappointing.  You see guys, not everone cares for ham radio the way it is and as far as I'm concerned the reason that DX contacts are so limited and disappointing is because there is an over emphasis on contests, language barriers, and over crowding on the bands..So in my opinion if the population of hams declines over the next few years it may equate to less crowded bands, less QRM, and more civilized conversations. The only organization that wants to push ham radio licensee growth is the ARRL and the manufacturers.  I for one would like to see a decline in active hams so the bands are more civilized.  Sorry if you don't agree with me because I'm not a eyes wide shut cheerleader.  I've been in the hobby since 2007 and a member of a club so I've seen what ham radio is in reality.  I'm not an evangelist for ham radio as I only see it as a passtime hobby and not a 'calling'.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 06, 2015, 08:09:25 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 5, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,840     (1.6%)
Technician      358,250    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          169,902   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,458     (6.9%)
Extra              136,939   (18.8%)

Total              727,389

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 07, 2015, 10:50:09 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 6, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,833     (1.6%)
Technician      358,294    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General           169,924   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,445     (6.9%)
Extra              136,938   (18.8%)

Total              727,434

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 12, 2015, 10:49:28 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 11, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,819     (1.6%)
Technician      358,354    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General           169,988   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,412     (6.9%)
Extra              136,991   (18.8%)

Total              727,564

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 13, 2015, 10:11:08 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 12, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,815     (1.6%)
Technician      358,480    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General           170,013   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,399     (6.9%)
Extra              136,996   (18.8%)

Total              727,683

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA2ISE on March 13, 2015, 02:14:51 PM
the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 12, 2015 was:
...
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
...

Total              727,683

What happened to the tech-pluses?  They all forgot to renew?   ;D  Merged with the other techs?  Or did the FCC make them all generals?   ???  Or maybe every last one of them went to VE sessions and all of them upgraded to general or extra?   8)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on March 13, 2015, 02:57:31 PM
What happened to the tech-pluses?  They all forgot to renew?   ;D  Merged with the other techs?  Or did the FCC make them all generals?   ???  Or maybe every last one of them went to VE sessions and all of them upgraded to general or extra?   8)

You're a little Behind the Times:

The Last Tech-Plus License to Expire in June (of 2010!)
http://www.arrl.org/news/the-last-tech-plus-license-to-expire-in-june


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 16, 2015, 07:25:40 AM
What happened to the tech-pluses?  They all forgot to renew?   ;D  Merged with the other techs?  Or did the FCC make them all generals?   ???  Or maybe every last one of them went to VE sessions and all of them upgraded to general or extra?   8)

Where have you been since 2000?

As part of the restructuring of April 15, 2000, the FCC stopped issuing new Tech Pluses and began renewing all existing Tech Pluses as Technicians. By 2010 the last one had been renewed as a Tech.

When the 5 wpm code test was dropped in 2007, the difference became a moot point.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA2ISE on March 16, 2015, 07:54:18 PM
 ;D  Guess I didn't pay it any attention, as I upgraded to extra that day (April 15, 2000)...   ;D


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K1ZJH on March 16, 2015, 09:09:16 PM
I'm surprised we still have Novices!!!  That license kind of went hand in hand with the old 5 WPM CW requirement.  It kind of dead end license these days... except for the CW they have some SSB on 10 meters and 222 MHz.  I'd almost like to see them have some allotments on 10 MHz CW, just to increase the activity.

Pete


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 19, 2015, 09:09:55 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 18, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,798     (1.6%)
Technician      358,546    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,036   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,343     (6.9%)
Extra              137,084   (18.8%)

Total              727,807

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 20, 2015, 08:47:27 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 19, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,791     (1.6%)
Technician      358,631    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,068   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,324     (6.9%)
Extra              137,111   (18.8%)

Total              727,925

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on March 20, 2015, 12:53:13 PM
I'm surprised we still have Novices!!!  That license kind of went hand in hand with the old 5 WPM CW requirement.  It kind of dead end license these days... except for the CW they have some SSB on 10 meters and 222 MHz.  I'd almost like to see them have some allotments on 10 MHz CW, just to increase the activity.

Pete

Not likely that many Novice ticket holders are active.
Most, if not all, of those licenses probably are just "running out the clock" until their expiration after ten years.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 20, 2015, 01:39:45 PM
Not likely that many Novice ticket holders are active.
Most, if not all, of those licenses probably are just "running out the clock" until their expiration after ten years.

The thing is, any existing Novice license today has been renewed at least once since 2000. Many have been renewed twice.

73 de Jim N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 26, 2015, 07:13:53 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 25, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,768     (1.6%)
Technician      358,912    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,137   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,241     (6.9%)
Extra              137,217   (18.8%)

Total              728,275

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 07, 2015, 10:38:46 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 6, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,716     (1.6%)
Technician      358,912    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,277   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,121     (6.9%)
Extra              137,345   (18.8%)

Total              728,371

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 08, 2015, 07:54:28 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 7, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,714     (1.6%)
Technician      358,923    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,292   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,120     (6.9%)
Extra              137,352   (18.9%)

Total              728,401

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 09, 2015, 11:19:33 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 8, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,714     (1.6%)
Technician      359,037    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,348   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,124     (6.9%)
Extra              137,385   (18.9%)

Total              728,608

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on April 09, 2015, 08:54:36 PM
So today there are more Advanceds than there were last time.  ???  Is that possible because folks who had let their license expire subsequently renewed within the grace period?

I finally upgraded to Extra in 2012 when there were still around 56,000 Advanceds left, and i keep waiting for that number to drop below 50,XXX. 
They could just grandfather them all to Extra and have it hit zero faster  ;)  In fact I'd like to see that happen and then the Amateur Extra name be changed to Advanced. 
if the FCC did that, it might just stir up a response :D


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 10, 2015, 06:44:59 AM
So today there are more Advanceds than there were last time.  ???  Is that possible because folks who had let their license expire subsequently renewed within the grace period?

That and processing delays.

Recall that the "renewal window" is very lopsided. You can only renew a license 90 or less days before expiration, or 730-731 or less days (two years) after expiration. So the chances of at least some hams of all license classes missing the 90 day window and renewing in the grace period are very good. I've seen the Novice numbers go up by a few for the same reason.

But if you step back, the numbers of the Novice and Advanced are slowly dropping by attrition, while the other three license classes just keep growing. Eventually they will disappear even if nothing is done.

Fun historical fact:

From January 1, 1953 until some time in 1967 (November 22?) the Advanced was closed to new issues. That's about 14-1/2 years. The Advanced and Novice were closed to new issues on April 15, 2000, and have now been closed off for just about 15 years, surpassing the old record.

I finally upgraded to Extra in 2012 when there were still around 56,000 Advanceds left, and i keep waiting for that number to drop below 50,XXX. 
They could just grandfather them all to Extra and have it hit zero faster  ;)  In fact I'd like to see that happen and then the Amateur Extra name be changed to Advanced. 
if the FCC did that, it might just stir up a response :D

Not going to happen. Here's why:

1) It costs FCC almost nothing to just let the old license classes go away by attrition.

2) Any proposal to give free no-test upgrades would probably result in massive opposition in the comments.

3) The current Extra is not hard to pass with a little preparation. What would be gained by a give-away?


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 10, 2015, 06:47:01 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 9, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,714     (1.6%)
Technician      359,131    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,373   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,121     (6.9%)
Extra              137,410   (18.9%)

Total              728,749

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on April 10, 2015, 07:29:08 AM
Quote from: W9KEY
I finally upgraded to Extra in 2012 when there were still around 56,000 Advanceds left, and i keep waiting for that number to drop below 50,XXX. 
They could just grandfather them all to Extra and have it hit zero faster  ;)  In fact I'd like to see that happen and then the Amateur Extra name be changed to Advanced. 
if the FCC did that, it might just stir up a response :D

Quote from: N2EY
Not going to happen. Here's why:

1) It costs FCC almost nothing to just let the old license classes go away by attrition.

2) Any proposal to give free no-test upgrades would probably result in massive opposition in the comments.

3) The current Extra is not hard to pass with a little preparation. What would be gained by a give-away?

73 de Jim, N2EY

1. yeah the status quo does have a velcro quality

2. boo-hoo (the likely resulting outcry is part of the reason i favor such a change)  :)

3. well, what would be given away is not much and the Extra is not much harder than the Advanced -- in some cases it is probably easier, especially now that all the actual exam Q & A pools are published.  Plus, it would simplify the class system. 

my alternative proposal would be to eliminate the Extra name, change it to Advanced, and change Advanced to General Plus.

i am getting tired of reading FCC updates on license counts for 6 classes of amateur licenses when 3 classes are all that are relevant.
we should just have: Technician/General/Extra or Technician/General/Advanced :P   ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 13, 2015, 06:06:41 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 11, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,702     (1.6%)
Technician      359,156    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,382   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,107     (6.9%)
Extra              137,425   (18.9%)

Total              728,772

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 16, 2015, 08:47:56 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 15, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,700     (1.6%)
Technician      359,120    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,489   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,093     (6.9%)
Extra              137,474   (18.9%)

Total              728,876

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 17, 2015, 07:40:10 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 16, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,699     (1.6%)
Technician      359,180    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,554   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,091     (6.9%)
Extra              137,498   (18.9%)

Total              729,022

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 23, 2015, 06:28:43 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 22, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,677     (1.6%)
Technician      359,278    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,613   (23.4%)
Advanced          50,033     (6.9%)
Extra              137,552   (18.9%)

Total              729,153

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 24, 2015, 07:27:15 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 23, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,677     (1.6%)
Technician      359,445    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,657   (23.4%)
Advanced         50,037     (6.9%)
Extra              137,574   (18.9%)

Total              729,390

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 30, 2015, 08:00:41 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 29, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,644     (1.6%)
Technician      359,690    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,722   (23.4%)
Advanced         49,946     (6.8%)
Extra              137,622   (18.9%)

Total              729,624

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 08, 2015, 11:57:02 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 7, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,622     (1.6%)
Technician      359,585    (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,854   (23.4%)
Advanced         49,888     (6.8%)
Extra              137,681   (18.9%)

Total              729,630

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA2ISE on May 08, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
I am getting tired of reading FCC updates on license counts for 6 classes of amateur licenses when 3 classes are all that are relevant.

They should remove the tech plus, as there are zero licensees anymore.  That would give us 5 classes. 

Maybe they should make up a "advanced to extra" test, that would essentially give credit to advanced level knowledge, and test only for extra level knowledge.  But the material on today's tests have evolved and changed so much to include current technology since there was advanced tests, and it would be hard to separate out "advanced" questions from the "extra" questions...  So much for that idea. 

Advanceds should upgrade, if for no other reason that they'd gain an extra 25KHz of spectrum to get away from the lids on 14.313....


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: SOFAR on May 09, 2015, 08:19:54 AM
 
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Advanceds should upgrade, if for no other reason that they'd gain an extra 25KHz of spectrum to get away from the lids on 14.313....
[/quote]

I'm relatively new to the hobby, but I get the impression some Advanced class licensees are stonewalling, or like having a unique license class from days gone by.

Then there is a local that I talk to on 52, he is in his late 70s, says his days of studying are over.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KE0CTG on May 14, 2015, 03:35:33 PM
As a new Extra, I can't help think that previous generations feel slighted with the lack of code requirement in all license classes today. In reading through someones info, they want to receive their license with the same requirement as they started with. Not the lax standards present today.

Would the hobby have seen the growth to the current levels if there was still the same code requirement? Does lack of code requirement change the quality of today's current operators. 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 15, 2015, 08:51:59 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 14, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,599     (1.6%)
Technician      359,603   (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          170,939   (23.4%)
Advanced         49,829     (6.8%)
Extra              137,726   (18.9%)

Total              729,696

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 22, 2015, 07:06:16 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 21, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,576     (1.6%)
Technician      359,573   (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          171,007   (23.4%)
Advanced         49,759     (6.8%)
Extra              137,845   (18.9%)

Total              729,760

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 03, 2015, 09:09:03 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 2, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,538     (1.6%)
Technician      359,530   (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          171,159   (23.5%)
Advanced         49,661     (6.8%)
Extra              137,952   (18.9%)

Total              729,840

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 04, 2015, 07:00:51 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 3, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,537     (1.6%)
Technician      359,590   (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          171,208   (23.5%)
Advanced         49,662     (6.8%)
Extra              137,992   (18.9%)

Total              729,989

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on June 04, 2015, 02:42:07 PM
Hi Jim,

I see that the number of Advanced Class licenses INCREASED by one between June 2nd and June 3rd.

Since no new Advanced Class tickets are being issued, how would that happen?

Someone who renewed an expired Advanced license during the grace period?

73,
Mel - KS2G



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 05, 2015, 07:25:00 AM
Hi Jim,

I see that the number of Advanced Class licenses INCREASED by one between June 2nd and June 3rd.

Since no new Advanced Class tickets are being issued, how would that happen?

Someone who renewed an expired Advanced license during the grace period?

Hello Mel,

That's exactly how the number of Advanceds or Novices sometimes increases - renewals in the grace period. The totals posted include only current, unexpired licenses held by individuals - no club licenses, no grace-period licenses, etc.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 05, 2015, 07:29:57 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 4, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,531     (1.6%)
Technician      359,659   (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          171,223   (23.5%)
Advanced         49,657     (6.8%)
Extra              138,002   (18.9%)

Total              730,072

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 18, 2015, 09:51:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 17, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,500     (1.6%)
Technician      359,403   (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          171,482   (23.5%)
Advanced         49,557     (6.8%)
Extra              138,148   (18.9%)

Total              730,090

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 19, 2015, 10:31:00 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 18, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,499     (1.6%)
Technician      359,444   (49.3%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          171,551   (23.5%)
Advanced         49,520     (6.8%)
Extra             138,164   (18.9%)

Total              730,178

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K3TIM on July 15, 2015, 06:20:24 AM
Is there an estimate of percentage YL's with Extra Class License?

k3Tim


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA2ISE on July 15, 2015, 11:36:18 AM
Does lack of code requirement change the quality of today's current operators. 

Well, there's been lids on 14.313 back when you had to do 13WPM to get the General.  For the most part, new hams quickly learn to operate reasonably well, if they want to talk with other hams.   


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on July 15, 2015, 12:18:23 PM
Is there an estimate of percentage YL's with Extra Class License?

I'm not aware of any mechanism to determine that easily. Gender is not a field that is recorded in the ULS.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K3TIM on July 16, 2015, 07:45:06 PM
Is there an estimate of percentage YL's with Extra Class License?

I'm not aware of any mechanism to determine that easily. Gender is not a field that is recorded in the ULS.

Okay and thanks for the reply.  I'll have a go at this by comparing first names against a "baby Girl" and "baby Boy" list.  If I make any headway I'll report back.

Best Regards...

Tim



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K8PRG on July 17, 2015, 04:07:37 PM
Okay and thanks for the reply.  I'll have a go at this by comparing first names against a "baby Girl" and "baby Boy" list.  If I make any headway I'll report back.

Best Regards...

Tim



You must have a lot of time on your hands.....but good luck.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K3TIM on July 18, 2015, 09:17:32 AM
Okay and thanks for the reply.  I'll have a go at this by comparing first names against a "baby Girl" and "baby Boy" list.  If I make any headway I'll report back.

Best Regards...

Tim



You must have a lot of time on your hands.....but good luck.

"Hopefully"  it's not difficult.  The boy/girl names files are ready. The Extra Class list is downloaded.
The Extra list will need a minor edit to remove last names as some may match first in the B/G names.  Emacs will take that duty.

 Using two Unix command lines to get approximate counts:

grep -f boyNames  FCCextras.list  | wc -l

grep -f girlNames  FCCextras.list | wc -l

The Word-Count will give a quick / approximate number of B/Gs  in the list.    As a first approximation this should give a reasonable percentage for YLs Vs. OMs. 

Further refinement would delete matched names from the base file as they are pulled into the G/B categories.  After the two processing steps above, any unmatched names can be hand tweaked.
Doubtful this is required for an approximate percentage.   

I should pull out my statistics book and see how many samples are required to find the answer within the 95 percentile.  Also, the boy / girl name files should be sorted and duplicates across the two files removed.  This would happen with "genderless" name such as Leslie.
This can wait till have I to much time on my hands though.

If anyone has suggestions or helpful hints please let me know.

Regards All,

Tim


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K3TIM on July 18, 2015, 04:22:52 PM
OKay....

The approximate results are YLs 16% and OMs: 86%.   

Yes, it adds to 102% due to "overlap" in M/F names.
The numbers:
 Extras:  210,409
 YLs:        33,584
 OMs:     181,161

The grep'd numbers added together exceed the base file total due to overlap in the M/F names.
The 210,409 Extras in the base file also seems high, probably due to how I queried the FCC database.  Be that as it may, the approximation is likely close enough.

This is easy to duplicate:
Using Excel, the call signs and first names were extracted to a file that would serve as the name file, derived the FCC Extra database file.
The grep commands worked fine, although with such long lists chewed up the wall-clock & CPU time.
The girl/boy names are easily pulled from the web as "baby names".
An amusing exercise to spend a rainy Saturday in drought stricken So. CA. 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 22, 2015, 12:22:34 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 21, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,383     (1.6%)
Technician      359,031   (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General          171,946   (23.6%)
Advanced         49,270     (6.7%)
Extra             138,362   (19.0%)

Total              729,992

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

The record high total was 730,178 (June 19, 2015)

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 25, 2015, 02:13:28 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 24, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,368     (1.6%)
Technician      359,177   (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General           171,984   (23.6%)
Advanced         49,249     (6.7%)
Extra              138,413   (19.0%)

Total              730,191

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KB1WSY on July 25, 2015, 03:12:45 PM
The approximate results are YLs 16% and OMs: 86%.   

That is interesting. The YL percentage is higher than I would have expected based on my monitoring of the bands. Good!

73 de Martin, KB1WSY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on July 26, 2015, 09:09:46 AM
The approximate results are YLs 16% and OMs: 86%.   

That is interesting. The YL percentage is higher than I would have expected based on my monitoring of the bands. Good!

73 de Martin, KB1WSY


that is good, the closer to 50% the better imo. 

did i read right that only 2% are gender-neutral names and therefore overlap? 

we could probably guess about 80% of the overlap names are male and not female.  sound right(?)

what would the totals look like if you did it that way? 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N0IU on July 26, 2015, 09:14:33 AM
That is interesting. The YL percentage is higher than I would have expected based on my monitoring of the bands. Good!

73 de Martin, KB1WSY


There are probably a lot of YL/XYLs out there like my wife. She got her Tech ticket in 2000 and even renewed it in 2010 (well actually, I did it for her) and she has NEVER been on the air... EVER! She just wanted to proved to me that she could pass the test. I may just let it expire in 2020... or not!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KA1VF on July 26, 2015, 11:07:31 AM
Now that we've got a guesstimate of the percentage of active licenses that belong to YL's/XYL's,
let's take on a more taboo subject which is the percentage of active licenses that belong to SK's.

       note: My guesstimate is 10%, and that is quantitatively based on my historical knowledge
                of deceased Amateurs within my own Zip Code with an active license that never got
                canceled.


                73,
                     Bob


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 27, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
Now that we've got a guesstimate of the percentage of active licenses that belong to YL's/XYL's,
let's take on a more taboo subject which is the percentage of active licenses that belong to SK's.

       note: My guesstimate is 10%, and that is quantitatively based on my historical knowledge
                of deceased Amateurs within my own Zip Code with an active license that never got
                canceled.


Maybe. I'd guess lower, based on the continued slow increase in licenses, particularly the General and Extra.

The "worst case scenario" is that an amateur goes SK immediately after renewing, and the license is never cancelled. Such a license will show as "current" for 10 years and be in the database for 12 years. At the opposite end of the spectrum is the amateur who goes SK the day his/her license leaves the database. The average is probably somewhere in between - say 6 years.

I guess the biggest question is "what percentage of US amateurs go SK per year?

FCC used to collect birthdate info, but stopped years ago. So there's no way to really know how the age distribution of US hams matches the general population. Looking around at a hamfest or club meeting doesn't tell you anything useful, because those gatherings aren't necessarily a representative sample.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 02, 2015, 05:42:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 1, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,344     (1.6%)
Technician      359,256   (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General           171,927   (23.6%)
Advanced         49,176     (6.7%)
Extra              138,420   (19.0%)

Total              730,123

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

The record high total was 730,191 (July 24, 2015)

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K3TIM on August 06, 2015, 04:09:53 AM
Here is a link of a similar exercise done by WM5R back in 2005 :

http://archive.is/MOaP4

Ken did a break down by state and M/F.  His totals are:
"115,266 were categorized as Female (13.60%) 660,798 were categorized as Male (77.94%) and 71,744 had first names that led to a classification of Uncertain (8.46%)."

-and-

"If we look at the adjusted percentages, my estimate is that the Amateur Radio population in the United States is 14.85% female and 85.15% male. "

which is close to the numbers I came up with.  There is a difference of a time, an entire decade, in the data used.

k3Tim


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 06, 2015, 09:46:02 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 5, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,340     (1.6%)
Technician      359,338   (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General           171,925   (23.6%)
Advanced         49,151     (6.7%)
Extra              138,506   (19.0%)

Total              730,260

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 09, 2015, 06:28:54 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 8, 2015 was:

Novice:            11,335     (1.6%)
Technician      359,478   (49.2%)
Technician Plus         0     (0.0%)
General           171,940   (23.6%)
Advanced         49,135     (6.7%)
Extra              138,535   (19.0%)

Total              730,423

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 20, 2015, 08:25:59 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 19, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,313     (1.6%)
Technician       359,642   (49.2%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           171,953   (23.6%)
Advanced          49,055     (6.7%)
Extra               138,623   (19.0%)

Total              730,586

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 21, 2015, 07:44:26 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 20, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,308     (1.5%)
Technician       359,708   (49.2%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           171,980   (23.5%)
Advanced          49,036     (6.7%)
Extra               138,633   (19.0%)

Total              730,665

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 22, 2015, 08:23:50 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 21, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,300     (1.5%)
Technician       359,789   (49.2%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           171,976   (23.5%)
Advanced          49,017     (6.7%)
Extra               138,660   (19.0%)

Total              730,742

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 28, 2015, 10:36:43 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 27, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,292     (1.5%)
Technician       359,851   (49.2%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           171,974   (23.5%)
Advanced          48,953     (6.7%)
Extra               138,737   (19.0%)

Total              730,837

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 11, 2015, 08:50:08 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 10, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,250     (1.5%)
Technician       359,652   (49.2%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           171,841   (23.5%)
Advanced          48,887     (6.7%)
Extra               138,702   (19.0%)

Total              730,332

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This total does not exceed the record high total of August 27, 2015

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 11, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
Here's an interesting observation. (At least it's interesting to me.)

Based on the numbers that have presented in this thread, I've calculated the annual attrition rate of Advanced licensees.

(Side note to those who want to know how I calculated: I compared any given day's Advanced total with a day that was approx. one year earlier, +/- 100 days. This was done in Excel, and so it was typically a common number of rows earlier in the spreadsheet. I eyeballed a number of rows and then copied the formula for a while until the number got too far from 365 days. I couldn't always use the same number of rows as the raw data that Jim posted wasn't exactly regular. And the difference in days between the rows I used also varied for the same reason. I adjusted the number of rows if the comparison was more than ~100 days off of 365. I calculated the percentage drop in licensees, and then annualized the percentage to 365 days.)

From April 2011 (about one year after the first post of data here) until near the end of 2013, the attrition rate wiggled a bit but stayed pretty much between 2.5 and 3%. In other words, there were about 3% fewer Advanced licensees on a given day than there were 365 days earlier. Then in late 2013 it started growing, and grew steadily through the first half of 2014 (almost a monotonic increase) to about 6%, where it has stayed (+/- 0.2%) for the past 15 months.

So what was the trigger that occurred during late 2013 and early 2014? What changed during those months that caused what had been a pretty stable rate (for ~20 months) to double and then stay stable at that new rate for 15 months?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 11, 2015, 02:16:29 PM
Here's an interesting observation. (At least it's interesting to me.)

Based on the numbers that have presented in this thread, I've calculated the annual attrition rate of Advanced licensees.

(Side note to those who want to know how I calculated: I compared any given day's Advanced total with a day that was approx. one year earlier, +/- 100 days. This was done in Excel, and so it was typically a common number of rows earlier in the spreadsheet. I eyeballed a number of rows and then copied the formula for a while until the number got too far from 365 days. I couldn't always use the same number of rows as the raw data that Jim posted wasn't exactly regular. And the difference in days between the rows I used also varied for the same reason. I adjusted the number of rows if the comparison was more than ~100 days off of 365. I calculated the percentage drop in licensees, and then annualized the percentage to 365 days.)

From April 2011 (about one year after the first post of data here) until near the end of 2013, the attrition rate wiggled a bit but stayed pretty much between 2.5 and 3%. In other words, there were about 3% fewer Advanced licensees on a given day than there were 365 days earlier. Then in late 2013 it started growing, and grew steadily through the first half of 2014 (almost a monotonic increase) to about 6%, where it has stayed (+/- 0.2%) for the past 15 months.

So what was the trigger that occurred during late 2013 and early 2014? What changed during those months that caused what had been a pretty stable rate (for ~20 months) to double and then stay stable at that new rate for 15 months?

Good question!

Some observations....

- The Advanced was closed to new issues in April 2000 - just about 15 and a half years ago. Back then there were about 100,000 Advanceds, today there's a bit less than half that number. If my math is right that works out to a long-term annual decrease of about 4.5%.

- The decrease in Advanced licenses is driven by two factors: Upgrades to Extra and dropouts (SKs, etc.). In the years following the 2000 rules changes, there were probably lots of upgrades (due in part to the removal of the higher-speed code tests). That factor is probably not so prevalent today.

- Anyone who still has an Advanced today has renewed it at least once, and most have renewed it twice. The ten-year term may cause "bumps" in the distribution. (Note that the numbers I post do not include grace-period licenses.)

- The closing of Advanced to new issues means the "average" age of Advanceds (using whatever measure you prefer) will only increase with time, unlike the "open" classes. Over time, this may mean a higher SK rate.

- Every so often there are proposals, petitions, and/or rumors that the FCC will change the rules to give Advanceds full privileges. None of them has ever come to pass, nor is it likely they will, but it's possible that such things cause at least some Advanceds to delay upgrading to Extra for a time.

All IMHO speculations.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 12, 2015, 11:21:35 AM
All IMHO speculations.

I think just about anything that would purport to be an answer to my question will be speculation.

Regarding your comments:

- I agree that any "rush" to upgrade probably occurred soon after April 2000, and has likely slowed to a near-constant pace by now.
- Some of those will be "finally getting around to it" types, and others may be "I don't think I'll ever get the free upgrade" type. But both of those are personal realizations which will happen randomly, rather than being triggered by a specific event (such as a rules change that makes upgrades easier).
- Even though there may be "bumps" in individual data points, the analysis I did has a smoothing characteristic, effectively a moving average over a relatively (though not exactly) stable window width.
- Although I agree that the gradual aging of the population results in an increase in SK rate, it would not evidence itself as two plateaus, which is what the data shows.

So I decided to go to a different source of data, Joe Speroni's table of license statistics at www.speroni.com. <Insert two-hour delay for data analysis and other interruptions.> Joe has data going back to 1997, and it looks like his "rules" are the same as yours (i.e., unexpired licenses). I did a similar analysis, but since his data was regular (last day of the month), I simply compared each data entry to the one from the previous year. Since Joe's goes back to 1997, I could run the analysis back to June 1998. Here are some quick observations:

- There was a 2-2.5% attrition rate during late 1998, which dropped to less than 1% by mid-1999.
- From April 2000 to May 2001 this jumped, running at a rate of 13-14%. This is clearly the effect of upgrades immediately after restructuring.
- There's a pretty stable period from mid-2001 to early 2004 where the rate was 2-3%.
- It then jumped to a 4-6% range from mid-2004 until early 2009.
- From mid-2009 until late 2013 it dropped back into the 2-3% range, hitting a low just below 2% in the middle of 2010.
- Early in 2014 it climbed over 4%, and has hovered in the 5-6% range since then.
- During the 2004-2009 period, the general slope of the curve is upward (increasing attrition rates) within the range. The same is trued of the 2009-2013 period. This is consistent with the speculation that the aging population results in increasing SK rates.

This data expands the question to address four separate "periods", all of which occurred after restructuring:

- The period of relatively low attrition rate from 2001-2004
- The higher rate from 2004 to 2009
- Then back to the lower rate from 2009 to 2013
- And then back to the higher rate from 2014 until now

Still no answers, though. To quote Lewis Carroll, "curiouser and curiouser!".



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 12, 2015, 06:00:45 PM
did the renewal period used to be 5 years and at some point changed to 10?  of so there would be a 5 year period where all hams renewed and that could lead to expirations (both SK  time gaps and other) falling with a specific 5 year window???

i don't have time to really think this thru right now, so throwing it out there for HF and EY :)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 13, 2015, 11:04:20 AM
did the renewal period used to be 5 years and at some point changed to 10?  of so there would be a 5 year period where all hams renewed and that could lead to expirations (both SK  time gaps and other) falling with a specific 5 year window???

i don't have time to really think this thru right now, so throwing it out there for HF and EY :)

Rob -

I think you've got it! (At least as best as we can speculate.)

Licenses went from 5 years to 10 years in 1984. That means every pre-1984 license would have been renewed during the period from 1984 to 1989. But these licenses would not have to be renewed until 1994 to 1999, so there would have been no renewals between 1989 and 1994.

The only licenses issued from 1989 to 1994 would be new ones. And it's pretty certain that there were fewer new licenses in that five-year period than there were pre-existing licenses. So there should be more renewals on the 10-year cycles starting with 1984-89 than there would be on the 10-year cycle starting with 1989-1994. Furthermore, the average age of the "4-9" crowd would likely be higher than the "9-4" crowd, simply because virtually all pre-84 licenses fall in that group.

Both of those facts would increase the attrition rate for the "4-9" years. First of all, the higher average age could mean that the "SK factor" is higher in "4-9" years than it is during "9-4" years. And secondly, there should be more licenses in the "4-9" class than the "9-4" class, which would say that even with a similar attrition rate per licensee, the impact on the total population would be greater.

Thank you!

Steve
W3HF

P.S. Some further thinking...

- Vanity callsigns will distort this a bit. Whereas license renewals, name/address changes, and upgrades don't affect the license term, the issuance of a vanity callsign always results in a new ten-year term. So any pre-1984 Advanced licensees can have requested/been issued a vanity callsign during the "9-4" years. Approximately 13% of the US amateur population has HV calls (that statistic does not include clubs), but the percentage for Advanced licensees is less than 9%. So the distortion is likely minor, less than 5%.

- In trying to determine the vanity population statistics I quoted above, I stumbled upon a table presented by Dean Gibson AE7Q, on his excellent web site (www.ae7q.com). I'm quite familiar with Dean's site in general, but didn't realize he has the exact data (http://www.ae7q.com/query/stat/LicenseUSA.php) I needed to confirm the above suppositions about the distribution of calls in the "4-9" and "9-4" classes. Dean lists the distribution of licenses in the ULS database, categorized by license class and grant date, and it's easy enough to extract the data I wanted, export to Excel, and analyze. Dean's data does include licenses within the two-year grace period, so it's not exactly the same as Jim's data. But the general shape is very similar. Specifically, there are currently about 200-250 Advanced licenses in the database that were granted in each of the months from Sept 2003 to June 2005. (Note that since these are all expired calls, they are candidates for SKs or other dropouts.) There are 600-650 grants per month from early 2006 through the end of 2007, and then a slow dropoff back down to ~250/month by early 2009. In 2013 the rate started climbing again, back to the 400-600 per month region.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 25, 2015, 12:13:12 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 24, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,211     (1.5%)
Technician       360,063    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           171,941   (23.6%)
Advanced          48,823     (6.7%)
Extra               138,879   (19.0%)

Total              730,917

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 26, 2015, 12:16:37 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 24, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,204     (1.5%)
Technician       360,236    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           171,966   (23.6%)
Advanced          48,803     (6.7%)
Extra               138,929   (19.0%)

Total              731,138

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WN2C on September 26, 2015, 02:42:42 PM
Jim, when did the FCC change the Novice license from 2 years nonrenewable to a 5 year renewable license? From what I have gathered it was around 1976. My next question is... did FCC offer a grace period for those Novices that had expired within the prior 2 years after changing it to a 5 year license?

Rick  WN2C


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 27, 2015, 06:01:36 AM
Jim, when did the FCC change the Novice license from 2 years nonrenewable to a 5 year renewable license? From what I have gathered it was around 1976. My next question is... did FCC offer a grace period for those Novices that had expired within the prior 2 years after changing it to a 5 year license?

Hello Rick,

There's an exact date when the change took place: May 15, 1978. (Docket 20282)

On that date, all new Novice licenses were issued as 5 year renewable, and all existing current Novice licenses became renewable - but their expiration dates didn't change. 

There was no grace period for this action. If a Novice's license expired on May 14, 1978 or earlier, s/he was out of luck. If a Novice's license expired on May 15, 1978 or later, s/he could renew it the same as any other license class.

However, all was not lost. Originally, the Novice was a one-time-only license, but sometime in the 1970s that requirement went away, and a Novice whose license expired but who wasn't ready to upgrade could take the tests again and get a new Novice license.

One more fact: In the days when the license term was 5 years, the grade period was only a year.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 05, 2015, 09:12:21 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 3, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,174     (1.5%)
Technician       360,460    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           171,998   (23.6%)
Advanced          48,762     (6.7%)
Extra               138,985   (19.0%)

Total              731,379

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 06, 2015, 08:58:04 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 5, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,172     (1.5%)
Technician       360,488    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,012   (23.6%)
Advanced          48,754     (6.7%)
Extra               138,991   (19.0%)

Total              731,417

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 07, 2015, 06:32:10 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 6, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,172     (1.5%)
Technician       360,554    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,031   (23.6%)
Advanced          48,756     (6.7%)
Extra               138,999   (19.0%)

Total              731,512

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 08, 2015, 06:44:35 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 7, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,171     (1.5%)
Technician       360,593    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,053   (23.6%)
Advanced          48,756     (6.7%)
Extra               139,015   (19.0%)

Total              731,588

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA2ISE on October 08, 2015, 09:14:25 AM
Total              731,588
...
This is a new record high total.
73 de Jim, N2EY

That's almost an area code's worth of population.  Imagine hams having their own area code.  Of course there's no reason for that, but...  ;D


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 11, 2015, 06:00:48 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 10, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,166     (1.5%)
Technician       360,917    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,145   (23.5%)
Advanced          48,747     (6.7%)
Extra               139,080   (19.0%)

Total              732,055

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 17, 2015, 01:13:24 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 16, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,160     (1.5%)
Technician       361,031    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,161   (23.5%)
Advanced          48,717     (6.7%)
Extra               139,138   (19.0%)

Total              732,207

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 21, 2015, 07:02:41 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 20, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,151     (1.5%)
Technician       361,048    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,188   (23.5%)
Advanced          48,695     (6.7%)
Extra               139,176   (19.0%)

Total              732,258

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA2ISE on October 21, 2015, 11:02:22 AM
Why do they still list the tech-plus licenses if they are no longer issued or renewed as such?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 21, 2015, 02:32:53 PM
Why do they still list the tech-plus licenses if they are no longer issued or renewed as such?

I guess because they're still on the books/database....technically.

I include them just to keep the format the same.

wow....it's been something like 5 years since the last Tech Plus disappeared. And 15-1/2 years since the Tech Plus, Advanced and Novice were closed to new issues.

In that time, Novices have declined from about 50,000 to about 11,000, and Advanceds from about 100,000 to about 48,000.

----

Bit of history:

From January 1, 1953, until November 22, 1967, the Advanced license was closed to new issues. That's 14 years 10 months 21 days.

From April 15, 2000 until the present, the Advanced, Novice and Technician Plus have been closed to new issues. That's 15 years 10 months 6 days.

To my knowledge the Advanced is the only class of US amateur license to have been closed and then reopened, with licensees able to retain the license class.


73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: SWMAN on October 21, 2015, 08:20:57 PM
Jim. Thanks for all of the good info that you always put on here. It's real interesting and I always enjoy reading it. 73. Jim   W5JJG


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 23, 2015, 06:06:51 AM
Jim. Thanks for all of the good info that you always put on here. It's real interesting and I always enjoy reading it. 73. Jim   W5JJG

You're welcome! Glad to help - here's the latest:


From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 21, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,142     (1.5%)
Technician       361,141    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,180   (23.5%)
Advanced          48,681     (6.7%)
Extra               139,183   (19.0%)

Total              732,327

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 24, 2015, 03:47:37 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 23, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,130     (1.5%)
Technician       361,269    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,216    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,665     (6.6%)
Extra               139,225   (19.0%)

Total              732,505

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 28, 2015, 07:03:35 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 27, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,112     (1.5%)
Technician       361,324    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,200    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,640     (6.6%)
Extra               139,258   (19.0%)

Total              732,534

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W4MPT on October 28, 2015, 10:04:06 AM
Why do they still list the tech-plus licenses if they are no longer issued or renewed as such?

I guess because they're still on the books/database....technically.

I include them just to keep the format the same.

wow....it's been something like 5 years since the last Tech Plus disappeared. And 15-1/2 years since the Tech Plus, Advanced and Novice were closed to new issues.

In that time, Novices have declined from about 50,000 to about 11,000, and Advanceds from about 100,000 to about 48,000.

----

Bit of history:

From January 1, 1953, until November 22, 1967, the Advanced license was closed to new issues. That's 14 years 10 months 21 days.

From April 15, 2000 until the present, the Advanced, Novice and Technician Plus have been closed to new issues. That's 15 years 10 months 6 days.

To my knowledge the Advanced is the only class of US amateur license to have been closed and then reopened, with licensees able to retain the license class.


73 de Jim, N2EY



Actually, N7IJS is still a tech plus.  The wheels of government turn slowly.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 29, 2015, 10:03:11 AM
Actually, N7IJS is still a tech plus.  The wheels of government turn slowly.

No, N7IJS isn't a Tech Plus. What's there is a pending application by FCC. If FCC decides to act on the application, the license will be a Technician.

Why that application has been pending for 5.5 years is a mystery. Anyone have more info?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 29, 2015, 10:04:21 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 28, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,111     (1.5%)
Technician       361,451    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,236    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,644     (6.6%)
Extra               139,284   (19.0%)

Total              732,726

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on October 30, 2015, 05:13:52 AM
Actually, N7IJS is still a tech plus.  The wheels of government turn slowly.

No, N7IJS isn't a Tech Plus. What's there is a pending application by FCC. If FCC decides to act on the application, the license will be a Technician.

Why that application has been pending for 5.5 years is a mystery. Anyone have more info?

Actually, his license on the ULS does say Tech Plus, and the status is "Active." And since he filed his renewal on time, he has continuing authority to operate (as a Tech Plus) until the FCC acts on his application. It's just that the expiration date is 2/11/2010 so he doesn't show up in your current totals (since they explicitly exclude "expired"). But yes, if the FCC renews the license, he will be a Tech.

Maybe it's a semantics issue--he clearly has authority to operate as "pending renewal", his ULS entry says Tech Plus, and his ULS entry is Active, but his license is technically expired. I don't know how to categorize that more succinctly.

Mr. Bell was apparently questioned in 2004 by the FCC related to a 2002 conviction for (what appears to be) a non-radio-related case. In that 2004 letter, FCC asserted that other criminal convictions affect the qualifications to retain an amateur radio license. I can't find any indication that FCC ever acted to rescind his license prior to its expiration, but they caught the renewal application and quickly offlined it.

In recent years, FCC has been much more silent regarding ongoing enforcement actions, so it's very difficult (if not impossible) to discern the difference between "things are going on but we can't talk about it yet" and "we're not doing anything on this now." The reduction in enforcement bureau resources is undoubtedly slowing down the process.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 30, 2015, 07:38:31 AM
To W3HF:

Fascinating! I understood the "active" to mean there was an active proceeding, not an active license. My bad!

One wonders what the final outcome will be....particularly this:

How long can the FCC hold a license in "administrative limbo" like that?

I mean, it's been over 5 years, and although the license has not been renewed, the licensee can continue to operate under the "filed for renewal in the 90 day window before expiration" rule. Suppose another 5 years goes by....will the licensee still be able to operate? If this proceeding goes on long enough, could it effectively become a "license for life"?

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 30, 2015, 07:39:49 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 29, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,108     (1.5%)
Technician       361,524    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,257    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,642     (6.6%)
Extra               139,297   (19.0%)

Total              732,828

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on October 30, 2015, 11:21:07 AM
How long can the FCC hold a license in "administrative limbo" like that?

I mean, it's been over 5 years, and although the license has not been renewed, the licensee can continue to operate under the "filed for renewal in the 90 day window before expiration" rule. Suppose another 5 years goes by....will the licensee still be able to operate? If this proceeding goes on long enough, could it effectively become a "license for life"?

I really don't know how long this can or will continue. I believe that the "continued authority to operate pending renewal" clause was instituted presuming that the issues would be resolved quickly, and 5+ years seems longer than "quickly" (at least to me). But another similar case (K1MAN) dragged on for quite a while too. He had applied for a renewal in 2005, but that was held pending enforcement actions. That appears to have been resolved last year (2014, nine years later!) when his 2005 renewal was finally rejected for non-payment of fines imposed in 2012. ULS shows "Internal Correction Applied" on 6/30/2014, which is a euphemism for "we retroactively fixed something on this date." ARRL has a summary of the issue here (http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-invokes-red-light-rule-in-denying-k1man-license-renewal-application), and that story explicitly states that Mr. Baxter lost his authority to operate "while his renewal application was pending" on 23 June 2014.

I guess that could become a "license for life" if the enforcement dragged on enough. In the K1MAN case, FCC used a loophole to dismiss Mr. Baxter's renewal, and never actually made a decision on whether to cancel his license on the basis of the original charges. In the N7IJS case, FCC may have to defend in court (if it is contested by Mr. Bell) a position that Mr. Bell is unqualified to hold a license due to his prior criminal conviction.

As I said earlier, reductions in enforcement bureau funding and staffing may affect some of the more complicated cases such as this one.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 30, 2015, 12:40:17 PM
How long can the FCC hold a license in "administrative limbo" like that?

I mean, it's been over 5 years, and although the license has not been renewed, the licensee can continue to operate under the "filed for renewal in the 90 day window before expiration" rule. Suppose another 5 years goes by....will the licensee still be able to operate? If this proceeding goes on long enough, could it effectively become a "license for life"?

I really don't know how long this can or will continue. I believe that the "continued authority to operate pending renewal" clause was instituted presuming that the issues would be resolved quickly, and 5+ years seems longer than "quickly" (at least to me). But another similar case (K1MAN) dragged on for quite a while too. He had applied for a renewal in 2005, but that was held pending enforcement actions. That appears to have been resolved last year (2014, nine years later!) when his 2005 renewal was finally rejected for non-payment of fines imposed in 2012. ULS shows "Internal Correction Applied" on 6/30/2014, which is a euphemism for "we retroactively fixed something on this date." ARRL has a summary of the issue here (http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-invokes-red-light-rule-in-denying-k1man-license-renewal-application), and that story explicitly states that Mr. Baxter lost his authority to operate "while his renewal application was pending" on 23 June 2014.

I guess that could become a "license for life" if the enforcement dragged on enough. In the K1MAN case, FCC used a loophole to dismiss Mr. Baxter's renewal, and never actually made a decision on whether to cancel his license on the basis of the original charges. In the N7IJS case, FCC may have to defend in court (if it is contested by Mr. Bell) a position that Mr. Bell is unqualified to hold a license due to his prior criminal conviction.

As I said earlier, reductions in enforcement bureau funding and staffing may affect some of the more complicated cases such as this one.

Indeed! Interesting.....

I suspect the "continue operating" business was originally intended to avoid paperwork conflicts for routine renewals, while maintaining a small pre-expiration window.

99.99+% of renewals are done without issue, but if FCC gets backlogged, the renewal processing may not be immediate. Rather than have amateurs who filed in good faith during the 90 day window, FCC lets them operate even though their license is "expired but awaiting renewal action". But it also creates a loophole.

----

Which brings up another question.

In the distant past, it was possible to renew almost anywhere in the license period. An amateur would upgrade, or change address, and "restart the 5 year clock". But that went away decades ago.

There was one exception: Vanity calls. To avoid having to pro-rate vanity call fees, FCC would automatically renew a license with the issuance of a vanity call. The idea was that the vanity call fee was a 10 year fee.

But now vanity fees are gone - does that mean the automatic renewal is gone too?

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on October 31, 2015, 04:10:43 AM
...
Which brings up another question.

In the distant past, it was possible to renew almost anywhere in the license period. An amateur would upgrade, or change address, and "restart the 5 year clock".

Or some 19-year-old would lose his wallet containing his license, and be legally unable to operate. So he'd renew his license (only six months into the five-year term) so he could get the new paper copy. (Not that I know or resemble anyone who would have done that....)

But that went away decades ago.

There was one exception: Vanity calls. To avoid having to pro-rate vanity call fees, FCC would automatically renew a license with the issuance of a vanity call. The idea was that the vanity call fee was a 10 year fee.

But now vanity fees are gone - does that mean the automatic renewal is gone too?

Yes and no, and here's the logic.

The issuance of a new vanity call is viewed by FCC as the issuance of a new license, not a renewal. This is appropriate from the view that the callsign indicates a station license, not the operator license. Although the licensee is the same, it's a separate license record. Since it's not a renewal, the expiration date of the previous license is irrelevant. And as a new license, it gets a new ten-year term.

So all new vanity callsigns still get ten-year terms, but that transaction never was a renewal. (So yes, the "automatic renewal" is gone because it never was there, but no, they still get new ten-year terms.)



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 04, 2015, 09:02:51 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 3, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,097     (1.5%)
Technician       361,682    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           173,203    (23.6%)
Advanced          48,606     (6.6%)
Extra               139,343   (19.0%)

Total              733,031

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on November 04, 2015, 09:39:50 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 29, 2015 was:


This data is really from 3 Nov 2015.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 05, 2015, 07:27:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 29, 2015 was:


This data is really from 3 Nov 2015.

Yes it is! My bad - fixed!

Thanks & 73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 05, 2015, 07:29:27 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 4, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,098     (1.5%)
Technician       361,850    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,341    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,610     (6.6%)
Extra               139,371   (19.0%)

Total              733,270

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 06, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 5, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,097     (1.5%)
Technician       361,896    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,339    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,608     (6.6%)
Extra               139,369   (19.0%)

Total              733,309

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 11, 2015, 12:27:42 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 10, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,079     (1.5%)
Technician       362,085    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,352    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,584     (6.6%)
Extra               139,425   (19.0%)

Total              733,525

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 12, 2015, 06:33:48 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 11, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,079     (1.5%)
Technician       362,101    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,353    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,585     (6.6%)
Extra               139,430   (19.0%)

Total              733,548

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 16, 2015, 10:40:33 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 14, 2015 was:

Novice:             11,071     (1.5%)
Technician       362,118    (49.3%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,394    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,578     (6.6%)
Extra               139,465   (19.0%)

Total              733,626

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 19, 2015, 07:20:43 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 18, 2015 was:

Novice:              11,076     (1.5%)
Technician       362,524    (49.4%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,564    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,581     (6.6%)
Extra               139,577   (19.0%)

Total              734,322

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 20, 2015, 07:17:11 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 19, 2015 was:

Novice:              11,075     (1.5%)
Technician       362,599    (49.4%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,575    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,576     (6.6%)
Extra               139,574   (19.0%)

Total              734,399

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AF7JA on November 20, 2015, 11:03:27 AM


This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think it would be interesting to see License count as a percentage of population across the years; however, the census is so infrequent that the results wouldn't be very reliable.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 20, 2015, 01:10:48 PM

I think it would be interesting to see License count as a percentage of population across the years; however, the census is so infrequent that the results wouldn't be very reliable.

From a post back on the first page of this thread:

The following numbers have been posted by W5ESE on QRZ.com and elsewhere:
 
Year    Population     #Hams  Hams as % of US Population
1913   97,225,000     2,000  0.002%
1914   99,111,000     5,000  0.005%
1916 101,961,000     6,000  0.006%
1921 108,538,000   10,809  0.010%
1922 110,049,000   14,179  0.013%
1930 123,202,624   19,000  0.015%
1940 132,164,569   56,000  0.042%
1950 151,325,798   87,000  0.057%
1960 179,323,175 230,000  0.128%
1970 203,211,926 263,918  0.130%
1980 226,545,805 393,353  0.174%
1990 248,709,873 502,677  0.202%
1997 267,783,607 678,733  0.253%
2000 281,421,906 682,240  0.242%
2005 296,410,404 662,600  0.224%
2006 299,291,772 657,814  0.220%
2008 303,000,000 658,648  0.217%
2010 310,425,814 694,313  0.224%

The 2010 figures are from the US population clock

http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

and ARRL's FCC license counts as of today.

I'll add today's numbers from the same sources:

2015 322,195,104 734,399  0.228%

While not as high as the 1997 peak, the trend is upwards.

Note how much smaller a percentage radio amateurs were in the past, even during times some hail as a "Golden Age".

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 25, 2015, 12:51:20 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 24, 2015 was:

Novice:              11,069     (1.5%)
Technician       362,723    (49.4%)
Technician Plus          0     (0.0%)
General           172,628    (23.5%)
Advanced          48,555     (6.6%)
Extra               139,632   (19.0%)

Total              734,607

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 18, 2015, 07:21:55 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 17, 2015 was:

Novice:              10,943     (1.5%)
Technician        363,383    (49.4%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,392   (23.5%)
Advanced           48,163     (6.6%)
Extra               139,747   (19.0%)

Total              734,626

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on December 21, 2015, 01:52:57 PM

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY

It seems a consistent trend is that the number of licensed US hams keeps increasing. Anyone have any insight on when (if ever) that may plateau and when we might expect to hit 3/4 of a million?
are there any graphs of the fluctuations month-to-month  or  year-to-year?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on December 22, 2015, 04:56:18 AM

It seems a consistent trend is that the number of licensed US hams keeps increasing. Anyone have any insight on when (if ever) that may plateau and when we might expect to hit 3/4 of a million?
are there any graphs of the fluctuations month-to-month  or  year-to-year?

There's another set of data that's been catalogued by Joe Speroni, AH0A, that's posted online here (http://www.ah0a.org/FCC/index.html). Joe has end-of-month data going back to June 1997. He doesn't have graphs, but it's easy enough to cut-and-paste his data into Excel and plot it yourself.

A quick look at that shows a near-constant slope of licensees since about August 2010, showing a growth of about 8750 per year. If this trend continues, we'll get to 750,000 licensees in mid-October 2017.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 23, 2015, 06:48:43 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 22, 2015 was:

Novice:              10,938     (1.5%)
Technician        363,423    (49.4%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,464   (23.5%)
Advanced           48,157     (6.6%)
Extra               139,785   (19.0%)

Total              734,767

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA2ISE on December 23, 2015, 12:04:13 PM

The following numbers have been posted by W5ESE on QRZ.com and elsewhere:
 
Year    Population     #Hams  Hams as % of US Population
1913   97,225,000     2,000  0.002%
1914   99,111,000     5,000  0.005%
1916 101,961,000     6,000  0.006%
1921 108,538,000   10,809  0.010%
1922 110,049,000   14,179  0.013%
1930 123,202,624   19,000  0.015%
1940 132,164,569   56,000  0.042%
1950 151,325,798   87,000  0.057%
1960 179,323,175 230,000  0.128%
1970 203,211,926 263,918  0.130%
1980 226,545,805 393,353  0.174%
1990 248,709,873 502,677  0.202%
1997 267,783,607 678,733  0.253%
2000 281,421,906 682,240  0.242%
2005 296,410,404 662,600  0.224%
2006 299,291,772 657,814  0.220%
2008 303,000,000 658,648  0.217%
2010 310,425,814 694,313  0.224%



Looks like the biggest spike of increases was back in the 1950's.  Probably when the Novice and old Tech licenses came out.  And plentiful surplus WW2 equipment.  ARC5's and such.  And transmitters homebrew built using TV sweep tubes. 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 28, 2015, 07:11:02 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 26, 2015 was:

Novice:              10,940     (1.5%)
Technician        363,575    (49.4%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,503   (23.5%)
Advanced           48,151     (6.6%)
Extra               139,829   (19.0%)

Total              734,998

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 28, 2015, 07:32:04 AM


Looks like the biggest spike of increases was back in the 1950's.  Probably when the Novice and old Tech licenses came out.  And plentiful surplus WW2 equipment.  ARC5's and such.  And transmitters homebrew built using TV sweep tubes.  

Yes and no.

The 1950s boom was certainly helped by the Novice and Tech, plus the reduction of the Conditional distance. Also surplus, old TV sets, etc.

But there were other influences:

- Postwar prosperity
- Growth of suburbia
- Heathkit and other kits, plus manufactured gear, at lower prices
- Lots of GIs who'd learned Morse and electronics in the military
- Growing electronics industry overall.

As for growth, let's take a look on a decade-by-decade basis, starting in 1930:

Year   #Hams  
1930    19,000  
1940    56,000

1930-1940 increase: 37,000 licenses. 1940 total was 2.95 times 1930 total.

1940    56,000
1950    87,000  

1940-1950 increase: 31,000 licenses. 1950 total was 1.55 times 1940 total.

1950    87,000  
1960  230,000

1950-1960 increase: 143,000 licenses. 1960 total was 2.64 times 1950 total.

1960  230,000
1970  263,918  

1960-1970 increase:  33,918 licenses. 1970 total was 1.15 times 1960 total.

1970  263,918  
1980  393,353  

1970-1980 increase:  129,435 licenses. 1980 total was 1.49 times 1970 total.

1980  393,353
1990  502,677

1980-1990 increase:  109,324 licenses. 1990 total was 1.28 times 1980 total.

1990  502,677
2000  682,240

1990-2000 increase:  179,563 licenses. 2000 total was 1.36 times 1990 total.

2000  682,240
2010  694,313  

2000-2010 increase:  12,073 licenses. 2010 total was 1.02 times 2000 total.

2010  694,313
2015  734,998

2010-2015 increase:  40,685 licenses. 2015 total was 1.06 times 2010 total.

So if you look at just the increase in number of licenses, the 1990s beat the 1950s, and the 1970s were a pretty close third.

But if you look at percentage increase, the 1930s are at the top


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 04, 2016, 05:22:13 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 2, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,939     (1.5%)
Technician        363,755    (49.4%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,574   (23.5%)
Advanced           48,153     (6.6%)
Extra               139,885   (19.0%)

Total              735,306

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 06, 2016, 07:28:16 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 5, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,942     (1.5%)
Technician        363,795    (49.5%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,594   (23.5%)
Advanced           48,149     (6.5%)
Extra               139,892   (19.0%)

Total              735,372

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 07, 2016, 08:50:34 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 6, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,942     (1.5%)
Technician        363,809    (49.5%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,607   (23.5%)
Advanced           48,148     (6.5%)
Extra               139,900   (19.0%)

Total              735,406

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 08, 2016, 07:30:21 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 7, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,942     (1.5%)
Technician        363,828    (49.5%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,620   (23.5%)
Advanced           48,149     (6.5%)
Extra               139,905   (19.0%)

Total              735,444

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 09, 2016, 09:13:04 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on January 8, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,943     (1.5%)
Technician        363,842    (49.5%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,629   (23.5%)
Advanced           48,148     (6.5%)
Extra               139,925   (19.0%)

Total              735,487

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KA1VF on January 09, 2016, 10:41:02 AM
I'm curious if any individuals and/or clubs have made an effort to notify Hams
who have expired licenses, and entice them to renew within the grace period.

       note: I did a database zipcode sampling of Hams in my particular City,
                and 10% of the FCC issued callsigns are expired but within grace.


                73,
                     Bob



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 09, 2016, 01:21:49 PM
I'm curious if any individuals and/or clubs have made an effort to notify Hams
who have expired licenses, and entice them to renew within the grace period.

       note: I did a database zipcode sampling of Hams in my particular City,
                and 10% of the FCC issued callsigns are expired but within grace.

When my license was nearing expiration, ARRL sent me a letter reminding me to renew, with how-to instructions.

I don't know if they do that for everyone or just for members.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on January 09, 2016, 02:28:25 PM
When my license was nearing expiration, ARRL sent me a letter reminding me to renew, with how-to instructions.

I don't know if they do that for everyone or just for members.

73 de Jim, N2EY

It's a membership benefit.
Members only.

73,
Mel - KS2G


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K9MHZ on January 15, 2016, 05:29:43 AM
I think you also need to toggle on that feature when you set up your account with them, don't you?

Might be default to "yes" for notification....dunno.



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: ONAIR on January 15, 2016, 03:04:30 PM
Maybe we should ask the FCC to send friendly reminders to hams during the last month of their grace periods?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on January 16, 2016, 07:26:40 AM
I think you also need to toggle on that feature when you set up your account with them, don't you?
Might be default to "yes" for notification....dunno.

Yes, it's a check-box in Membership Profile under "Edit E-Mail Subscriptions".
It's NOT checked by default.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 05, 2016, 06:15:22 AM
Almost 400,000 views!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KB1WSY on February 07, 2016, 06:55:43 PM
And now more than 401,000....


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 08, 2016, 05:59:20 AM
And now more than 401,000....


Hello Martin! Long time!

This thread is approaching 5-1/2 years of age, too. It will be interesting to see how long it lasts

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KG5RJS on February 16, 2016, 09:17:28 AM
I wonder how many of these 735,000 are actually active hams.  Especially those technicians.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on February 17, 2016, 06:37:28 PM
This thread is approaching 5-1/2 years of age, too. It will be interesting to see how long it lasts

73 de Jim, N2EY

As long as you keep posting updated license stats, Jim  ;)

73,
Mel - KS2G




Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on February 17, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
I wonder how many of these 735,000 are actually active hams.  Especially those technicians.

The best guess -- and it's always been just a guess -- is that at any time in recent decades about half the number of U.S. licensees are active in some way.





Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WA2ISE on February 18, 2016, 01:03:17 PM
...is that at any time in recent decades about half the number of U.S. licensees are active in some way.

Depends on how you define "active".  Oh, on a busy contest weekend maybe several hundred hams are transmitting at any one moment.  That would be 0.1% of all licensed hams.  And maybe a thousand using various repeaters around the nation.  Maybe then 0.3%.  But there'd be around 10 times that many hams listening and not currently transmitting.  But if "active" means all the hams who transmitted at least once in the last month or two, then maybe you'd get half the total number of licensees.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 19, 2016, 06:36:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 18, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,814     (1.5%)
Technician        364,710    (49.6%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General            172,413   (23.4%)
Advanced           47,653     (6.5%)
Extra                140,184   (19.1%)

Total                735,774

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KG6AF on February 19, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
We'll soon be at the 10-year anniversary of no-code licensing, which went into effect in February, 2007.  Anyone care to guess whether the retention rate for folks who came into the hobby after that point will be any different than for those who joined the hobby earlier?  Will we see a change in the rate of growth from increased (or decreased?) attrition?

My only comment is that the transition from code-for-all-exams to no-code wasn't a step function, but more gradual.  Perhaps we've already seen some of the effects of eliminating the code requirement. If that's the case, we seem to be in pretty good shape.  But as Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 19, 2016, 02:02:38 PM
We'll soon be at the 10-year anniversary of no-code licensing, which went into effect in February, 2007.  Anyone care to guess whether the retention rate for folks who came into the hobby after that point will be any different than for those who joined the hobby earlier?  Will we see a change in the rate of growth from increased (or decreased?) attrition?

My only comment is that the transition from code-for-all-exams to no-code wasn't a step function, but more gradual.  Perhaps we've already seen some of the effects of eliminating the code requirement. If that's the case, we seem to be in pretty good shape.  But as Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”


I think we'll just see more of what we've been seeing since 2007. The Novice and Advanced will continue to shrink and the other classes continue to grow. Etc.

Fun fact:

Right after the restructuring of April 15, 2000, we saw considerable growth in the number of licenses AND in upgrades. But then, about 2003, the growth stopped, and we actually lost ground until, in late 2006, the total was less than it had been before the 2000 restructuring!

Then, in Feb 2007, the growth suddenly resumed. It was dramatic for a while, then slowed down, but still perking along.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 21, 2016, 09:06:19 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 20, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,809     (1.5%)
Technician        364,817    (49.6%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General             172,426   (23.4%)
Advanced           47,635     (6.5%)
Extra                140,215   (19.1%)

Total                735,902

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 25, 2016, 07:22:48 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 24, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,791     (1.5%)
Technician        364,926    (49.6%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General             172,456   (23.4%)
Advanced           47,593     (6.5%)
Extra                140,252   (19.1%)

Total                736,018

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 26, 2016, 07:56:32 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 25, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,798     (1.5%)
Technician        365,046    (49.6%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General             172,500   (23.4%)
Advanced           47,595     (6.5%)
Extra                140,282   (19.1%)

Total                736,221

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 01, 2016, 06:40:55 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 29, 2016 was:

Novice:              10,783     (1.5%)
Technician        365,162    (49.6%)
Technician Plus           0     (0.0%)
General             172,460   (23.4%)
Advanced           47,543     (6.5%)
Extra                140,336   (19.1%)

Total                736,284

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 02, 2016, 12:52:14 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 1, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,781     (1.5%)
Technician         365,281    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,509   (23.4%)
Advanced            47,545     (6.5%)
Extra                 140,357   (19.1%)

Total                 736,473

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AF7JA on March 02, 2016, 01:25:53 PM
We'll soon be at the 10-year anniversary of no-code licensing, which went into effect in February, 2007.  Anyone care to guess whether the retention rate for folks who came into the hobby after that point will be any different than for those who joined the hobby earlier?  Will we see a change in the rate of growth from increased (or decreased?) attrition?

My only comment is that the transition from code-for-all-exams to no-code wasn't a step function, but more gradual.  Perhaps we've already seen some of the effects of eliminating the code requirement. If that's the case, we seem to be in pretty good shape.  But as Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”


Actually, no-code licensing started in 1991.


Source: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~rtoyama/hamclass.html


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 03, 2016, 08:40:55 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 2, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,782     (1.5%)
Technician         365,358    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,531   (23.4%)
Advanced            47,542     (6.5%)
Extra                 140,387   (19.1%)

Total                 736,600

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 04, 2016, 06:44:52 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 3, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,781     (1.5%)
Technician         365,580    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,554   (23.4%)
Advanced            47,540     (6.5%)
Extra                 140,424   (19.1%)

Total                 736,879

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 07, 2016, 06:43:42 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 6, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,774     (1.5%)
Technician         365,685    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,535   (23.4%)
Advanced            47,528     (6.5%)
Extra                 140,437   (19.1%)

Total                 736,959

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 08, 2016, 08:54:30 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 7, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,775     (1.5%)
Technician         365,793    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,555   (23.4%)
Advanced            47,523     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,490   (19.1%)

Total                 737,136

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total. First time over 737,000

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 09, 2016, 10:45:32 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 8, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,776     (1.5%)
Technician         365,850    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,609   (23.4%)
Advanced            47,520     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,511   (19.1%)

Total                 737,266

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: ONAIR on March 10, 2016, 12:28:24 AM
The more, the merrier!!!  ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 10, 2016, 03:13:30 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 9, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,776     (1.5%)
Technician         365,932    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,633   (23.4%)
Advanced            47,520     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,545   (19.1%)

Total                 737,406

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 11, 2016, 08:31:58 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 10, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,770     (1.5%)
Technician         366,017    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,632   (23.4%)
Advanced            47,504     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,663   (19.1%)

Total                 737,526

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 13, 2016, 04:59:50 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 12, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,767     (1.5%)
Technician         366,080    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,658    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,504     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,617   (19.1%)

Total                 737,626

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 17, 2016, 08:05:28 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 16, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,750     (1.5%)
Technician         366,244    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,677    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,441     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,657   (19.1%)

Total                 737,769
Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 18, 2016, 11:31:06 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 17, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,741     (1.5%)
Technician         366,342    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,675    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,415     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,679   (19.1%)

Total                 737,852

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K0BEL on March 23, 2016, 05:49:45 PM
Sorry guys, but I think a very large percentage of new ham licenses are going to FPV and drone pilots. I teach FPV and drone flying for a local hobby store and in the last year I know of 30-40 FPV'ers who got their license for long range RC vehicle video and communication. Almost none of them will ever be talking on a radio. Lets see, 6 large hobby stores in my state times 30 equals about 200 licenses. 200 times 50 is about 10,000 licenses. I am sure the numbers are not accurate, but i think you get the picture. I got my license for FPV, but bought a dual mode and HF radio. I mostly listen, only talked a handful of times in the past 2 years.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KG6AF on March 23, 2016, 10:13:50 PM
Sorry guys, but I think a very large percentage of new ham licenses are going to FPV and drone pilots.

What's there for anyone to be sorry about?  People use this hobby in the way they like.  As long as they operate legally, it's all to the good of the fraternity.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KA4GFY on March 24, 2016, 04:25:36 AM
Like KG6AF said, what's there to be sorry about?  Remote controlled aircraft, boats and vehicles are one of the many facets of ham radio.  Its better they get licensed and understand the rules, than just start using the equipment and say they didn't know it required a license.

I have a bigger problem with those who get a license, buy a radio and put it in the closet until "disaster strikes."  Most of those people will lose interest in a few years.

73,
Rich, KA4GFY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: WW7KE on March 24, 2016, 09:32:47 PM
Sorry guys, but I think a very large percentage of new ham licenses are going to FPV and drone pilots. I teach FPV and drone flying for a local hobby store and in the last year I know of 30-40 FPV'ers who got their license for long range RC vehicle video and communication. Almost none of them will ever be talking on a radio. Lets see, 6 large hobby stores in my state times 30 equals about 200 licenses. 200 times 50 is about 10,000 licenses. I am sure the numbers are not accurate, but i think you get the picture. I got my license for FPV, but bought a dual mode and HF radio. I mostly listen, only talked a handful of times in the past 2 years.

So what?  That's just another facet of Amateur Radio that should be encouraged.  Some of us prefer to use our licenses for purposes other than "FB OM ON UR LUMBAGO 73" or "CQ DX."


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 25, 2016, 08:24:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 24, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,712     (1.5%)
Technician         366,441    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,664    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,311     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,773   (19.1%)

Total                 737,901

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9AVY on March 28, 2016, 07:51:10 PM
I would take these numbers with a huge grain of salt.  With the 10 year license renewal many hams could be SK a week, a month, a year or more after renewing.   Also, there are many hams who have lost interest in the hobby.  Therefore these figures may be skewed.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 29, 2016, 06:36:21 AM
I would take these numbers with a huge grain of salt.  With the 10 year license renewal many hams could be SK a week, a month, a year or more after renewing.   Also, there are many hams who have lost interest in the hobby.  Therefore these figures may be skewed.

We've had 10 year license terms for more than 30 years now. Sure, anyone could go ten toes up the day after they renew, but it's been that way a long long time.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K5ACL on March 29, 2016, 07:41:36 AM
Thanks for posting these Jim, always check this thread from time to time!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on March 31, 2016, 04:31:52 PM
Here is a graphic representation of each license class count over the last six years.

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah216/TishTishie/Amateur%20Radio%20Classes%202010-2016_zpsqmvv7sm2.jpg)

http://www.picpaste.com/Amateur_Radio_Classes_2010-2016-o2aJWo2y.JPG

You can see that the rate of new Technician class licenses has been increasing (the upwards bow). To me this is indicating that the hobby is slightly increasing in popularity, most notably around the end of 2013.

The rate of decrease in Advanced and Novice class licenses is fairly constant with maybe in increase in the rate of drop offs in Advanced class.

General to Extra class licenses are paralleling nicely. It appears that most of the increases in extra class are coming from upgrades of the general licenses. The impact of advanced licenses increasing to extra seems to be fairly minor.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on April 01, 2016, 05:59:54 AM
If the trends hold steady, by July of 2017 I would expect;

Novices drop to less than 10,000
Advanceds drop to less than 45,000

Technicians are right up around 400,000, maybe a little shy of that number
Generals hit 175,000
Extras hit 145,000

There will be around 775,000 amateurs in the hobby.



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 01, 2016, 10:08:25 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 31, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,690     (1.5%)
Technician         366,602    (49.6%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,629    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,231     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,831   (19.1%)

Total                 737,983

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 01, 2016, 10:10:43 AM
If the trends hold steady, by July of 2017 I would expect;

Novices drop to less than 10,000
Advanceds drop to less than 45,000

Technicians are right up around 400,000, maybe a little shy of that number
Generals hit 175,000
Extras hit 145,000

There will be around 775,000 amateurs in the hobby.



Tisha,

Thanks for the analysis.

I suspect the number of Novices will drop below 10,000 before the end of 2016, though. Advanced is anyone's guess.

It will be interesting to see what happens next year as the 10th anniversary of the 2007 changes comes around.

73 de jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on April 01, 2016, 12:44:24 PM
If the trends hold steady, by July of 2017 I would expect;

Novices drop to less than 10,000
Advanceds drop to less than 45,000

Technicians are right up around 400,000, maybe a little shy of that number
Generals hit 175,000
Extras hit 145,000

There will be around 775,000 amateurs in the hobby.



Tisha,

Thanks for the analysis.

I suspect the number of Novices will drop below 10,000 before the end of 2016, though. Advanced is anyone's guess.

It will be interesting to see what happens next year as the 10th anniversary of the 2007 changes comes around.

73 de jim, N2EY

Jim/Tisha -

I've been tracking Jim's numbers too, and have calculated the attrition rates (on a rolling basis) over the past five years. (That led to the observation about the difference in rates caused by the transition from five-year to ten-year licenses that I made in September of last year on page 24 in this thread.)

The current attrition rate for Novices is hovering between 8.5% and 9% per year. Using a rate of 8.8%, the current 10,690 Novices would drop to 10,000 in 265 days, or just before the end of the year.

The current attrition rate for Advanceds is between 5.5% and 6.3%. Using a rate of 5.8%, the current 47,231 Advanceds would drop to 45,000 in 296 days, or 20 January of next year.

If trends continue, these rates should hold pretty much in that range until early 2019, which is the 35th anniversary of the start of the five-to-ten-year-license transition.

I don't have similar numbers for the other license classes or the total.

Steve
W3HF


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 03, 2016, 09:42:30 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 1, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,682     (1.4%)
Technician         366,626    (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,624    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,226     (6.4%)
Extra                 140,871   (19.1%)

Total                 738,029

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total. First time over 738,000

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 21, 2016, 11:41:00 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 20, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,601     (1.4%)
Technician         366,862    (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,544    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,058     (6.4%)
Extra                 141,139   (19.1%)

Total                 738,204

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 22, 2016, 07:07:33 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 21, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,592     (1.4%)
Technician         366,921    (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,550    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,032     (6.4%)
Extra                 141,177   (19.1%)

Total                 738,272

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 23, 2016, 08:06:51 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 23, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,586     (1.4%)
Technician         367,032    (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,552    (23.4%)
Advanced            47,010     (6.4%)
Extra                 141,190   (19.1%)

Total                 738,370

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 28, 2016, 07:17:31 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 27, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,581     (1.4%)
Technician         366,978    (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,567    (23.4%)
Advanced            46,974     (6.4%)
Extra                 141,279   (19.1%)

Total                 738,379

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on April 29, 2016, 07:15:40 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 28, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,578     (1.4%)
Technician         367,116    (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,618    (23.4%)
Advanced            46,967     (6.4%)
Extra                 141,334   (19.1%)

Total                 738,613

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 01, 2016, 05:23:31 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on April 29, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,580     (1.4%)
Technician         367,130    (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,629    (23.4%)
Advanced            46,961     (6.4%)
Extra                 141,370   (19.1%)

Total                 738,670

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 20, 2016, 01:52:38 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 19, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,508   (1.4%)
Technician         367,390   (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,587  (23.3%)
Advanced            46,795   (6.3%)
Extra                 141,770   (19.2%)

Total                 739,050

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 24, 2016, 05:16:16 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 23, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,500   (1.4%)
Technician         367,434   (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,534  (23.3%)
Advanced            46,752   (6.3%)
Extra                 141,917   (19.2%)

Total                 739,137

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 26, 2016, 10:58:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 25, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,497   (1.4%)
Technician         367,615   (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,570  (23.3%)
Advanced            46,749   (6.3%)
Extra                 142,035   (19.2%)

Total                 739,466

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 27, 2016, 11:31:19 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 26, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,497   (1.4%)
Technician         367,698   (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,583  (23.3%)
Advanced            46,751   (6.3%)
Extra                 142,062   (19.2%)

Total                 739,591

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 18, 2016, 09:07:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 16, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,417   (1.4%)
Technician         368,051   (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,011  (23.2%)
Advanced            46,272   (6.3%)
Extra                 143,142   (19.3%)

Total                 739,893

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on July 18, 2016, 10:37:09 AM
Based on 3-1/2 months' worth of additional data, it's time to update these predictions.

If the trends hold steady, by July of 2017 I would expect;

Novices drop to less than 10,000
Advanceds drop to less than 45,000

Technicians are right up around 400,000, maybe a little shy of that number
Generals hit 175,000
Extras hit 145,000

There will be around 775,000 amateurs in the hobby.



Tisha,

Thanks for the analysis.

I suspect the number of Novices will drop below 10,000 before the end of 2016, though. Advanced is anyone's guess.

It will be interesting to see what happens next year as the 10th anniversary of the 2007 changes comes around.

73 de jim, N2EY

Jim/Tisha -

I've been tracking Jim's numbers too, and have calculated the attrition rates (on a rolling basis) over the past five years. (That led to the observation about the difference in rates caused by the transition from five-year to ten-year licenses that I made in September of last year on page 24 in this thread.)

The current attrition rate for Novices is hovering between 8.5% and 9% per year. Using a rate of 8.8%, the current 10,690 Novices would drop to 10,000 in 265 days, or just before the end of the year.

The current attrition rate for Advanceds is between 5.5% and 6.3%. Using a rate of 5.8%, the current 47,231 Advanceds would drop to 45,000 in 296 days, or 20 January of next year.

If trends continue, these rates should hold pretty much in that range until early 2019, which is the 35th anniversary of the start of the five-to-ten-year-license transition.

I don't have similar numbers for the other license classes or the total.

Steve
W3HF

Novice attrition has actually been higher than 9% for much of the past few months, and Advanced attrition is over 6%. Assuming 9.5% and 6.5% respectively, and the current license class totals, Novices should drop below 10,000 on 12 December, and Advanceds below 45,000 on 14 December.

Steve
W3HF


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 19, 2016, 08:32:55 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 18, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,417   (1.4%)
Technician         368,118   (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,036  (23.2%)
Advanced            46,270   (6.3%)
Extra                 143,164   (19.3%)

Total                 740,005

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total. First time over 740,000

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 20, 2016, 08:47:30 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 19, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,417   (1.4%)
Technician         368,246   (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,093  (23.2%)
Advanced            46,273   (6.3%)
Extra                 143,188   (19.3%)

Total                 740,217

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 21, 2016, 07:43:06 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 20, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,415   (1.4%)
Technician         368,295   (49.7%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,116  (23.2%)
Advanced            46,274   (6.3%)
Extra                 143,195   (19.3%)

Total                 740,295

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 27, 2016, 06:56:06 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 26, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,401   (1.4%)
Technician         368,372   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,150  (23.3%)
Advanced            46,227   (6.2%)
Extra                 143,207   (19.3%)

Total                 740,357

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 28, 2016, 07:00:25 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 27, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,399   (1.4%)
Technician         368,466   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,177  (23.3%)
Advanced            46,226   (6.2%)
Extra                 143,219   (19.3%)

Total                 740,467

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 29, 2016, 08:33:56 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 28, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,388   (1.4%)
Technician         368,503   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,158  (23.3%)
Advanced            46,205    (6.2%)
Extra                 143,217   (19.3%)

Total                 740,471

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on July 29, 2016, 10:31:11 AM
that most recent update was an interesting day-to-day change.

the total in every license class except Tech went down  :)

one other note: assuming the #'s listed for each license class are accurate, the total for July 27 is off by 20 and should be 740,487 a new record high (and making July 28 not a record)

should not be long and we will we hit 750,000  8)



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: ONAIR on July 30, 2016, 11:15:17 AM
that most recent update was an interesting day-to-day change.

the total in every license class except Tech went down  :)

one other note: assuming the #'s listed for each license class are accurate, the total for July 27 is off by 20 and should be 740,487 a new record high (and making July 28 not a record)

should not be long and we will we hit 750,000  8)


   Are we losing Generals and Extras because of SKs or non renewals?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KOP on July 30, 2016, 12:05:50 PM
Are we losing Generals and Extras because of SKs or non renewals?

... quick check , nope , ain't dead yet . 'Nother day above ground and still breathing . :-)

AF7XT de Dennis


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on July 30, 2016, 01:36:21 PM
that most recent update was an interesting day-to-day change.

the total in every license class except Tech went down  :)

one other note: assuming the #'s listed for each license class are accurate, the total for July 27 is off by 20 and should be 740,487 a new record high (and making July 28 not a record)

should not be long and we will we hit 750,000  8)


   Are we losing Generals and Extras because of SKs or non renewals?

i was going to suggest it could also be upgrades in the case of Generals(?)
looking at the totals from Jan 2, 2016 we have lost about 400 Generals since then but have gained about 3300 Extras & 4700 Techs. 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KG6AF on July 30, 2016, 04:33:18 PM
i was going to suggest it could also be upgrades in the case of Generals(?)
looking at the totals from Jan 2, 2016 we have lost about 400 Generals since then but have gained about 3300 Extras & 4700 Techs. 

That wouldn't surprise me.  At VE sessions, we've seen a rise in the number of General-to-Extra test takers whenever we get close to the phase-in of a new Extra question pool.  That certainly was the case this year.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on August 11, 2016, 01:01:10 PM
At VE sessions, we've seen a rise in the number of General-to-Extra test takers whenever we get close to the phase-in of a new Extra question pool.  That certainly was the case this year.

i imagine you see less and less Advanced to Extra upgrades as time rolls on?  anyone ever looked into how many Advanceds drop off from upgrades vs. expiration or sk?
were it not for www.hamtestonline.com (http://www.hamtestonline.com) which made studying for the Extra fun and easy and clearly tells you when you are ready, i would likely still be an Advanced...

disclaimer: i have zero connections with hamtestonline except i am a satisfied customer


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on August 12, 2016, 07:40:56 AM
anyone ever looked into how many Advanceds drop off from upgrades vs. expiration or sk?

Interesting question. Unfortunately the ULS doesn't make it easy to collect those statistics. There's no way to determine if a natural expiration (i.e., expiration on the expected date) is because the licensee was no longer interested in retaining the license, simply forgot to renew, or had died. You could probably infer that any cancellation prior to expiration that is not coincident with another license is likely an SK situation, but that's not always the case.

Even counting upgrades is tricky as you'd have to track individual transactions.

I can't think of an easy way to do what you suggest, though I'd love to see that data. Maybe someone with "big data analysis" skills could come up with something.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on August 12, 2016, 12:09:22 PM
anyone ever looked into how many Advanceds drop off from upgrades vs. expiration or sk?

Interesting question. Unfortunately the ULS doesn't make it easy to collect those statistics. There's no way to determine if a natural expiration (i.e., expiration on the expected date) is because the licensee was no longer interested in retaining the license, simply forgot to renew, or had died. You could probably infer that any cancellation prior to expiration that is not coincident with another license is likely an SK situation, but that's not always the case.

Even counting upgrades is tricky as you'd have to track individual transactions.

I can't think of an easy way to do what you suggest, though I'd love to see that data. Maybe someone with "big data analysis" skills could come up with something.

I thought of someone with access to the data. Dean Gibson (AE7Q) runs a web site  (http://www.ae7q.com)with lots of license and callsign data--if you haven't checked it out, you should.

Dean has archives not only of licenses but applications, and was able to run some queries that identified apps that resulted in operator class changes. (Thank you Dean!) From this, he was able to identify which of these were "upgrade from Novice" and "upgrade from Advanced." And the numbers surprised me a bit.

During calendar years 2011-2015, there were 1968 upgrades from Advanced. But during the same time, the count of Advanceds dropped by 11,222. That means that only 17.5% of the attrition was due to upgrades. The rest was simple expirations. As I said earlier, we can't tell the difference between an SK expiration and any other reason. But it's clear that upgrades are a small fraction of the attrition.

Novices were even more dramatic--498 upgrades out of 4,796 total is a 10.4% fraction.

As  for the number of upgrades over time, it really varied. There were over 1700 in 2000, but that was the year License Restructuring took effect, and over 1400 of those were in the first 2-1/2 months after the rules changed. Then there were 200-400 from 2001 through 2006. This jumped into the 500s for 2007 and 2008, the 400s from 2009 to 2012, and the 300s from 2013 to 2015. But there were almost 300 during the first six months of 2016, so this year will be higher than the trend.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KOP on August 12, 2016, 03:00:14 PM
I may have to ask Dean myself but I wonder how one hit wonders like myself are counted ? I sat for all three elements at once and passed . So is my Extra an upgrade from General even though I held a general for 40 minutes ? Is my general an upgrade from Technician even though I held it for only 30 minutes ?Or am I just a new Extra license ? 

I don't mind outing myself as a decades long procrastinator . Anyone can see it from the ULS . I tried to visualize a matrix of dif files* from available information and immediately got lost . I really should have paid more attention to Charles Lutwidge Dodgson's "Symbolic Logic Part I and II"* .


AF7XT Dennis

* Differential file created via Unix/*NIX script . I'd explain but then you'd have to kill me ...wait . 
* Part II published after his death in 14 January 1898.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KG6AF on August 12, 2016, 04:37:39 PM
I may have to ask Dean myself but I wonder how one hit wonders like myself are counted ? I sat for all three elements at once and passed . So is my Extra an upgrade from General even though I held a general for 40 minutes ? Is my general an upgrade from Technician even though I held it for only 30 minutes ?Or am I just a new Extra license ? 

You passed elements 2 and 3, but you never held a Tech or General license.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on August 12, 2016, 11:20:45 PM
During calendar years 2011-2015, there were 1968 upgrades from Advanced. But during the same time, the count of Advanceds dropped by 11,222. That means that only 17.5% of the attrition was due to upgrades. The rest was simple expirations. As I said earlier, we can't tell the difference between an SK expiration and any other reason. But it's clear that upgrades are a small fraction of the attrition.

Novices were even more dramatic--498 upgrades out of 4,796 total is a 10.4% fraction.

As  for the number of upgrades over time, it really varied. There were over 1700 in 2000, but that was the year License Restructuring took effect, and over 1400 of those were in the first 2-1/2 months after the rules changed. Then there were 200-400 from 2001 through 2006. This jumped into the 500s for 2007 and 2008, the 400s from 2009 to 2012, and the 300s from 2013 to 2015. But there were almost 300 during the first six months of 2016, so this year will be higher than the trend.

very cool information, thank you Stephen!  i imagine the spike in upgrades during the first six months of 2016 was due to a typical rush to upgrade before the change in an exam questions pool(?)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on August 13, 2016, 12:57:14 PM
I may have to ask Dean myself but I wonder how one hit wonders like myself are counted ? I sat for all three elements at once and passed . So is my Extra an upgrade from General even though I held a general for 40 minutes ? Is my general an upgrade from Technician even though I held it for only 30 minutes ?Or am I just a new Extra license ? 

You passed elements 2 and 3, but you never held a Tech or General license.

Dean and I actually traded messages about this, and KG6AF is right. Your record doesn't show a "previous operator class," so you don't count as an upgrade.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on August 13, 2016, 01:02:31 PM

very cool information, thank you Stephen!  i imagine the spike in upgrades during the first six months of 2016 was due to a typical rush to upgrade before the change in an exam questions pool(?)


I really doubt that. If that were the case, we would have seen a jump when the previous exam pool was being changed (in summer of 2012, I think). And that wasn't the case--numbers were trending down.

I don't have an explanation.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K7MEM on August 13, 2016, 02:26:15 PM
I may have to ask Dean myself but I wonder how one hit wonders like myself are counted ? I sat for all three elements at once and passed . So is my Extra an upgrade from General even though I held a general for 40 minutes ? Is my general an upgrade from Technician even though I held it for only 30 minutes ?Or am I just a new Extra license ? 

When they submitted the results from your testing, you were only issued a Extra Class license. Since they didn't actually generate a Tech or General license, you never held them, even for 30 or 40 minutes.

However, before the big change, it was different. In January 1999, I took the Tech and General tests in the same VE session (plus the 13 WPM Morse test) and then went back a few months later and took the Advanced and Extra tests (plus the 20 WPM Morse test) in another single VE session. About two weeks after the first VE session, I received my Technician license. Two weeks after that the General license came through. Again, after the second VE session, I received an Advanced license in two weeks, followed two weeks later by a Extra license.

The ULS lists my Extra as a upgrade from Advanced. But there is no information on the Technician or General. And no indication that the Advanced and Extra were taken at the same time.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 26, 2016, 07:33:51 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 25, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,318   (1.4%)
Technician         368,813   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,219  (23.3%)
Advanced            45,947    (6.2%)
Extra                 143,290   (19.3%)

Total                 740,587

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 27, 2016, 10:01:55 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 26, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,317   (1.4%)
Technician         368,967   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,261  (23.3%)
Advanced            45,944    (6.2%)
Extra                 143,318   (19.3%)

Total                 740,807

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on September 01, 2016, 05:21:25 AM
I see that N7IJS, the "last tech plus" still shows as an active but offlined license in the FCC database.

For those not familiar with this story, this is an individual who was making terrorist threats and spent some time in a federal prison for their crimes. The FCC offlined the license in 2010 but never terminated it. The reasoning for the license action was the personal character clause of all FCC licenses.

It seems that while the FCC continues to drag its feet this license will never go away. It would of naturally expired in 2011 but once the enforcement action was started it became frozen in time.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 01, 2016, 06:56:42 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 31, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,302   (1.4%)
Technician         369,080   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,285  (23.3%)
Advanced            45,895    (6.2%)
Extra                 143,331   (19.3%)

Total                 740,893

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 01, 2016, 07:02:55 AM
I see that N7IJS, the "last tech plus" still shows as an active but offlined license in the FCC database.

For those not familiar with this story, this is an individual who was making terrorist threats and spent some time in a federal prison for their crimes. The FCC offlined the license in 2010 but never terminated it. The reasoning for the license action was the personal character clause of all FCC licenses.

It seems that while the FCC continues to drag its feet this license will never go away. It would of naturally expired in 2011 but once the enforcement action was started it became frozen in time.

Sort of.

I don't know if the license can actually be used now. The renewal application was received before the expiration date but is still pending.

One thing this sort of treatment does is to keep the record in the database. If the license were revoked or cancelled, the licensee might be able to get another license after a time because no one would remember.

One wonders what the status of the licensee actually is. For all anyone knows, he could be dead...

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on September 02, 2016, 01:39:57 PM
I have been mining the FCC license database for work-related activities and took a mental-break to go look up the status of a few of those contested licenses. It seems that the enforcement stall can be up to 12 years (the longest that I had found).


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 07, 2016, 08:05:31 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 6, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,291     (1.4%)
Technician         369,191   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,269   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,867     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,348   (19.3%)

Total                 740,966

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 08, 2016, 08:55:54 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 7, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,294     (1.4%)
Technician         369,214   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,280   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,864     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,357   (19.3%)

Total                 741,009


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: SWMAN on September 08, 2016, 01:27:19 PM
 Just curious, how can the Novice increase by 3 today ??


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W9IQ on September 08, 2016, 01:28:47 PM
Perhaps it is due to renewals within the grace period.

- Glenn W9IQ


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 09, 2016, 05:05:27 AM
Just curious, how can the Novice increase by 3 today ??
...
No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.
[emphasis added]
...


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KC2QYM on September 09, 2016, 07:42:23 AM
Too many hams, not enough propagation.  Imagine the frustration of so many new hams as their HF DX opportunities dwindle and they rapidly lose interest in the hobby.  As a consequence of this I expect the prices for new and used radios to decline rapidly.  It will be a buyers market in the next few years so don't be afraid to negotiate with sellers who think their radios are special. If you're in your mid 60s and up, you may never see an upswing in propagation; sad but true.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N0IU on September 09, 2016, 02:12:15 PM
If you're in your mid 60s and up, you may never see an upswing in propagation; sad but true.

Seriously??

Even though the United States ranks 43rd in average life expectancy, the average life expectancy is 79.68 years. So if you are 65, this means you have nearly 15 more years to suck air on this planet if the actuarial tables are to be believed.

And speaking of averages, sunspot cycles run for about 11 years. We're not quite at the bottom of Cycle 25, but current predictions show Cycle 25's peak(?) should come some time in mid-2024 which is about 8 years from now.

15 - 8 = 7. This means that the average American will indeed see the next "peak" and a significant portion of the down side of Cycle 25.

So there!


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 22, 2016, 06:39:12 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 21, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,267     (1.4%)
Technician         369,303   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,301   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,748     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,429   (19.4%)

Total                 741,048


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 23, 2016, 06:51:58 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 22, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,261     (1.4%)
Technician         369,440   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,328   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,738     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,447   (19.4%)

Total                 741,214


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KJ4I on September 24, 2016, 07:41:47 AM
It's nice to see the numbers increase but there are definitely not 741,000 plus hams active but of course we all know that. On a smaller scale I know that about 75 percent of the hams in my county are not active and at least about 15 licenses that were issued around 10 years ago have either since expired never to be renewed or will soon expire never to be renewed. Those particular hams were never active from day one. I have seen this scenario play out several times where some group or entity would talk 20 or 30 people in to getting their ham license for whatever purpose only for those license to go unused and eventually laps. Another thing that I have seen happen over my years in the hobby is for someone to get licensed, get very active for a few years then totally fall off the map never to be heard on the air again. In some cases they never even renewed their licenses but they are still around and well just no longer interested in the hobby. There is no real way to truly know how many hams are active but i'd guess a much much lower number. I just wonder if we are losing activity at a faster rate than we are gaining new hams? Back when I first got licensed in the mid 90's things were very very active at the local level (about a 100nm radius) but sometime between the early to mid 2000's things took a nose dive and never really recovered. You'd be lucky to listen for a week and hear much more than a handful of local hams on the air including on HF. Definitely interesting.   


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 29, 2016, 08:10:05 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 28, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,246     (1.4%)
Technician         369,501   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,329   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,714     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,489   (19.4%)

Total                 741,279


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 30, 2016, 11:14:24 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 29, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,243     (1.4%)
Technician         369,614   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,351   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,707     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,489   (19.4%)

Total                 741,404


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 04, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 3, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,235     (1.4%)
Technician         369,701   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,374   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,684     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,492   (19.4%)

Total                 741,486


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 05, 2016, 10:55:03 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 4, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,238     (1.4%)
Technician         369,723   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,397   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,685     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,520   (19.4%)

Total                 741,563


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 06, 2016, 06:36:06 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 5, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,238     (1.4%)
Technician         369,714   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,413   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,684     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,530   (19.4%)

Total                 741,579


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 09, 2016, 05:23:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 8, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,224     (1.4%)
Technician         369,800   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,399   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,651     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,530   (19.4%)

Total                 741,604


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 21, 2016, 06:39:58 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 20, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,197     (1.4%)
Technician         369,892   (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,411   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,568     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,556   (19.4%)

Total                 741,624


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 22, 2016, 01:52:15 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 21, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,197     (1.4%)
Technician         369,981    (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,424   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,569     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,562   (19.4%)

Total                 741,733


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: G3RZP on October 24, 2016, 01:54:37 AM
Trouble is, the FCC count is bound to be out of date. I knew two Technician Class Licencees: one died in 2012 and the other in 2013, and they are still listed, although their licences do expire before Christmas. That is the problem arising from lifetime or five or ten year renewal periods. The UK figures are even more complicated in that some people may have three different callsigns, achieved as they went from Novice to Full licence, although that will stop as the renewal periods roll around.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 24, 2016, 07:13:55 AM
Trouble is, the FCC count is bound to be out of date. I knew two Technician Class Licencees: one died in 2012 and the other in 2013, and they are still listed, although their licences do expire before Christmas. That is the problem arising from lifetime or five or ten year renewal periods. The UK figures are even more complicated in that some people may have three different callsigns, achieved as they went from Novice to Full licence, although that will stop as the renewal periods roll around.

Of course. But that has always been the case.

The numbers posted are IMHO the most accurate available. They do not include club or other station-only licenses, and they do not include licenses that are expired but in the grace period.

Also, note that in the USA, there is an incentive to report deceased amateurs if they have callsigns that are "preferred".

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 28, 2016, 05:53:26 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 26, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,195     (1.4%)
Technician         369,972    (49.8%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,484   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,564     (6.2%)
Extra                 143,597   (19.4%)

Total                 741,812


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 31, 2016, 05:57:00 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 29, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,195     (1.4%)
Technician         370,187    (49.9%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,567   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,562     (6.1%)
Extra                 143,643   (19.4%)

Total                 742,154


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KOP on October 31, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
since Aug 2010 + 48,033

~kop


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 02, 2016, 06:37:33 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 1, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,189     (1.4%)
Technician         370,241    (49.9%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,585   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,540     (6.1%)
Extra                 143,661   (19.4%)

Total                 742,216


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 03, 2016, 08:28:54 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 2, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,190     (1.4%)
Technician         370,320    (49.9%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,607   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,537     (6.1%)
Extra                 143,679   (19.4%)

Total                 742,333


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 02, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 1, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,092     (1.4%)
Technician         371,000    (50.0%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,648   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,296     (6.1%)
Extra                 143,336   (19.3%)

Total                 742,372


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W4KYR on December 06, 2016, 10:31:44 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 1, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,092     (1.4%)


No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.



73 de Jim, N2EY


Does anyone currently know a ham who only has a Novice license?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N0NB on December 06, 2016, 11:02:52 AM
Does anyone currently know a ham who only has a Novice license?

Yes, my brother who holds KA0VRU.  He's not active but allows me to renew it for him.  :)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 08, 2016, 06:32:24 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 7, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,073     (1.4%)
Technician         371,198    (50.0%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,670   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,248     (6.1%)
Extra                 143,330   (19.3%)

Total                 742,519


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 09, 2016, 10:40:55 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 8, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,070     (1.4%)
Technician         371,264    (50.0%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,682   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,234     (6.1%)
Extra                 143,325   (19.3%)

Total                 742,575


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 09, 2016, 10:42:20 AM
Does anyone currently know a ham who only has a Novice license?

I do. A local who only works 40 and 15 CW. Good op. Why he doesn't upgrade is a mystery.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KOP on December 10, 2016, 12:05:55 AM
Does anyone currently know a ham who only has a Novice license?

I do. A local who only works 40 and 15 CW. Good op. Why he doesn't upgrade is a mystery.

73 de Jim, N2EY

...me too. I wonder if they're related?

~kop


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K7MEM on December 10, 2016, 09:39:40 AM
Does anyone currently know a ham who only has a Novice license?

I do. A local who only works 40 and 15 CW. Good op. Why he doesn't upgrade is a mystery.

73 de Jim, N2EY

For some, a Novice license is all they need. I ran with a Novice license for many years and didn't have any intention of upgrading, because it suited my needs at the time. In the early 80s I spent several years in Germany and operated with a reciprocal license as DA2EU. At that time, a US Novice license translated to a Class A German license. But things have changed over time in Germany too, and a Novice license doesn't get you very much these days. While I was there, I spent the bulk of my radio time operating 15 Meter CW and had a great time. Hundreds of contacts all over England, Europe, Africa, Asia, etc.. Interestingly, in all that time, I didn't have a single US contact. I tried answering a US CQ many times, but could never get through.

It wasn't until 1999, when I sensed that there was going to be a big change in licensing, that I decided to upgrade. I started 1999 as a Novice and 4 months later I was an Extra. But that was just a personal goal and really didn't have anything to do with the extra band privileges. I still worked the Novice bands. If I knew it was going to be that easy to get my Extra, I would have done it years before that.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: NC8T on December 13, 2016, 10:08:09 PM
Anyone care to guess why we lost about 300 Extra licenses between Nov and Dec of this year?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 14, 2016, 05:54:40 AM
Anyone care to guess why we lost about 300 Extra licenses between Nov and Dec of this year?

My guess.....and it's only a guess.....is that it's partly hams dying off, and partly hams renewing in the grace period.

The numbers I post are for current unexpired licenses ONLY. Grace period licenses are not counted. The renewal window is only 90 days; the grace period is two years. So, if someone misses the 90 day window but then sends in their renewal within the grace period, their license will disappear from the totals and then reappear.

If you watch the daily totals, you'll see various ups and downs in totals as new and renewed licenses are processed. This is why you may see increases in the number of Advanceds and Novices even though those licenses are no longer issued new.

But if you step back and look at the long term trend.....it's a growth trend. Not fast growth, but growth.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on December 17, 2016, 10:42:40 AM

Quote from: NC8T
Anyone care to guess why we lost about 300 Extra licenses between Nov and Dec of this year?

Quote from: N2EY
My guess.....and it's only a guess.....is that it's partly hams dying off, and partly hams renewing in the grace period.

The numbers I post are for current unexpired licenses ONLY. Grace period licenses are not counted. The renewal window is only 90 days; the grace period is two years. So, if someone misses the 90 day window but then sends in their renewal within the grace period, their license will disappear from the totals and then reappear.

If you watch the daily totals, you'll see various ups and downs in totals as new and renewed licenses are processed. This is why you may see increases in the number of Advanceds and Novices even though those licenses are no longer issued new.

But if you step back and look at the long term trend.....it's a growth trend. Not fast growth, but growth.

73 de Jim, N2EY

your reason for the short-term fluctuations may only be a guess, but your assertion of the long-term trend is a nicely framed, mathematical fact.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on December 29, 2016, 01:02:08 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 28, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,015     (1.3%)
Technician         371,447    (50.0%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,781   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,097     (6.1%)
Extra                 143,327   (19.3%)

Total                 742,667


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 01, 2017, 08:21:48 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on December 31, 2016 was:

Novice:               10,012     (1.3%)
Technician         371,553    (50.0%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,799   (23.3%)
Advanced            45,071     (6.1%)
Extra                 143,336   (19.3%)

Total                 742,771


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on January 04, 2017, 05:02:41 AM
For those interested, the same source that Jim uses to post the license counts (http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts (http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts)) states that as of 1 Jan 2017, the number of current unexpired Novice licenses dropped to 9,999. Advanceds are at 45,034.

This is consistent with the predictions that a few of us made back in April (on page 31 of this thread):

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg916126.html#msg916126 (http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg916126.html#msg916126)

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg916167.html#msg916167 (http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg916167.html#msg916167)

though not as quick as I had suggested in an update posted in July

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg938894.html#msg938894 (http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg938894.html#msg938894)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on January 04, 2017, 06:06:40 AM
For those interested, the same source that Jim uses to post the license counts (http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts (http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts)) states that as of 1 Jan 2017, the number of current unexpired Novice licenses dropped to 9,999. Advanceds are at 45,034.

This is consistent with the predictions that a few of us made back in April (on page 31 of this thread):

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg916126.html#msg916126 (http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg916126.html#msg916126)

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg916167.html#msg916167 (http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg916167.html#msg916167)

though not as quick as I had suggested in an update posted in July

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg938894.html#msg938894 (http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,70322.msg938894.html#msg938894)

Thanks! Dang - I missed the transition!

Of course if there are some renewals-in-the-grace-period, the total could go over 10,000 again - for a time.

Also, the totals show the number of Novices in the US Virgin Islands as being down to just 1. Eventually that number will go to zero....

----

The Novice license became available July 1, 1951 and was closed to new issues on April 15, 2000. That's 48 years, 9 months and 15 days (or thereabouts). It has been closed to new issues, but still active, for 16 years, 10 months and 20 days.

So it has been closed to new issues for about a quarter of its total existence!

One wonders how long it will take for the very last Novice license to vanish from the database.

73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on January 04, 2017, 01:57:12 PM
I had predicted that by July of this year, instead it is running about six months ahead of schedule. When I made my estimation it was conservatively based as so many things not directly related to amateur radio can affect license counts.

It is sort of like the Montgomery Scott (Star Trek) rules of ship repairs. If it takes 40 hours, say 60 and look like a hero.  :D


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K5WLR on January 04, 2017, 02:41:25 PM
I believe Scotty was trying to protect his reputation as a miracle worker!  :D

73

Will Rogers
K5WLR


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3WN on January 05, 2017, 11:05:58 AM
Strictly speaking, that is not what Scotty said...
Quote
Kirk: How much refit time before we can take her out again?
Scotty: Eight weeks, sir. But ye don't have eight weeks, so I'll do it for ye in two.
Kirk: Mr. Scott. Have you always multiplied your repair estimates by a factor of four?
Scotty: Certainly, sir. How else can I keep my reputation as a miracle worker?
Kirk: [over the intercom] Your reputation is secure, Scotty.

And while we're on the subject...

Quote
Scotty: [to Kirk about ship status] Ah. All I can say is they don't make them like they used to.
Kirk: You told me you could get this ship operational in two weeks, I gave you three, what happened?
Scotty: I think you gave me too much time, Captain.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AG5BC on January 06, 2017, 03:16:50 AM
Quote
Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: Look, Mr. Scott, I'd love to explain everything to you, but the Captain wants this spectrographic analysis done by 1300 hours.
[La Forge goes back to work; Scotty follows slowly]
Scotty: Do you mind a little advice? Starfleet captains are like children. They want everything right now and they want it their way. But the secret is to give them only what they need, not what they want.
Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: Yeah, well, I told the Captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour.
Scotty: How long will it really take?
Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: An hour!
Scotty: Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would *really* take, did ya?
Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: Well, of course I did.
Scotty: Oh, laddie. You've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on January 06, 2017, 02:25:32 PM
Strictly speaking, that is not what Scotty said...
Quote
Kirk: How much refit time before we can take her out again?
Scotty: Eight weeks, sir. But ye don't have eight weeks, so I'll do it for ye in two.
Kirk: Mr. Scott. Have you always multiplied your repair estimates by a factor of four?
Scotty: Certainly, sir. How else can I keep my reputation as a miracle worker?
Kirk: [over the intercom] Your reputation is secure, Scotty.

And while we're on the subject...

Quote
Scotty: [to Kirk about ship status] Ah. All I can say is they don't make them like they used to.
Kirk: You told me you could get this ship operational in two weeks, I gave you three, what happened?
Scotty: I think you gave me too much time, Captain.

so, i always remember the line from the doctor (Bones?) saying: "damnit Jim, i am a doctor not a miracle worker!"
i even use it occasionally in life adjusting "doctor" to whatever role the context calls for...

in saying that, was the doctor actually venting some bitterness toward the Kirk/Scotty relationship?  :D


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on February 01, 2017, 08:43:20 AM
ARRL Reports:

Another Outstanding Year for Amateur Radio Licensing

New Amateur Radio licenses issued were up by 1% over 2015, and this is the third year in a row that the total number of new licenses has exceeded 30,000 ... As of December 31, 2016, the total number of licensees in the FCC database was 742,787, topping the 2015 total of 735,405, but down just slightly from the all-time high of 743,003 reached last November ...  there were 143,337 Amateur Extra licensees, 45, 071 Advanced licensees, 172,807 General licensees, 371,560 Technician licensees, and 10,012 Novice licensees.


See:
http://www.arrl.org/news/another-outstanding-year-for-amateur-radio-licensing




Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 02, 2017, 07:28:08 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 1, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,896     (1.3%)
Technician         371,976   (50.1%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,738   (23.3%)
Advanced            44,724     (6.0%)
Extra                 143,466   (19.3%)

Total                 742,800


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on February 09, 2017, 09:41:50 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on February 8, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,841     (1.3%)
Technician         372,214   (50.1%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,692   (23.3%)
Advanced            44,615     (6.0%)
Extra                 143,477   (19.3%)

Total                 742,839


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 02, 2017, 07:47:58 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 1, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,749     (1.3%)
Technician         372,749   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,684   (23.2%)
Advanced            44,390     (6.0%)
Extra                 143,481   (19.3%)

Total                 743,053


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 03, 2017, 07:20:11 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 2, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,728     (1.3%)
Technician         372,814   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             172,701   (23.2%)
Advanced            44,364     (6.0%)
Extra                 143,497   (19.3%)

Total                 743,104


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 04, 2017, 06:37:10 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 3, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,729     (1.3%)
Technician         372,834   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,704   (23.2%)
Advanced            44,359     (6.0%)
Extra                 143,501   (19.3%)

Total                 743,127


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 09, 2017, 07:04:39 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 8, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,725     (1.3%)
Technician         372,908   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,689   (23.2%)
Advanced            44,309     (6.0%)
Extra                 143,551   (19.3%)

Total                 743,182


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 16, 2017, 07:19:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 15, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,707     (1.3%)
Technician         373,074   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,723   (23.2%)
Advanced            44,247     (6.0%)
Extra                 143,585   (19.3%)

Total                 743,336


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 17, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 16, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,706     (1.3%)
Technician         373,139   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,775   (23.2%)
Advanced            44,249     (6.0%)
Extra                 143,601   (19.3%)

Total                 743,470


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on March 31, 2017, 07:28:27 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on March 30, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,663     (1.3%)
Technician         373,354   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,732   (23.2%)
Advanced            44,099     (5.9%)
Extra                 143,698   (19.3%)

Total                 743,546


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on May 08, 2017, 10:33:32 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on Saturday May 6th was:

Novice:                9,529     (1.2%)
Technician         373,075   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,683   (23.2%)
Advanced            43,809     (5.9%)
Extra                 143,885   (19.4%)

Total                 742,981

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

For the past six weeks the total number of amateur radio operators has decreased by 565, excepting Extra class holders that increased by 187

73 de Tisha, AA4HA


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on May 08, 2017, 10:42:55 AM
With the license counts in decline it it may be pointing to a failing at the efforts of the ARRL to keep the amateur radio hobby as a compelling message and relevant to prospective new members. Clubs and VEC's may have decreased their efforts to host sessions for recruiting, training and testing.

With field day and Dayton we should be expecting an uptick in activities and participation.

If these upticks do not happen then we have missed the boat in how to engage new membership. We will have "jumped the shark".


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K8PRG on May 08, 2017, 11:25:19 AM


If these upticks do not happen then we have missed the boat in how to engage new membership. We will have "jumped the shark".

Don't jump off the boat yet...it's the first decline in how long?...I don't have time for the research.

And don't forget...if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on May 08, 2017, 01:24:24 PM
With the license counts in decline...

Not hardly!

Yes, the total occasionally falls from month-to-month (the last time was April-May, 2015) but the long-term trend is a steady increase.

Over the past ten years, the total has increased by more than 60,500 ... about 9.5 percent.

See: http://ah0a.org/FCC/Licenses.html


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 09, 2017, 07:21:07 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on Saturday May 6th was:

Novice:                9,529     (1.2%)
Technician         373,075   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,683   (23.2%)
Advanced            43,809     (5.9%)
Extra                 143,885   (19.4%)

Total                 742,981

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

For the past six weeks the total number of amateur radio operators has decreased by 565, excepting Extra class holders that increased by 187

73 de Tisha, AA4HA


Tisha,

I've been watching the numbers for years now - (since long before this thread started in 2010) and I can tell you this:

The numbers go up and down daily - but the long-term trend for the past 10 years or so has been up.

It's similar to standing on the beach when the tide is coming in. The water comes in waves, and every wave is not higher than the one before. But - over time - what was once dry sand becomes underwater when the tide rises.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: ONAIR on May 09, 2017, 07:19:04 PM
For some reason the license count numbers remind me a bit of the stock market!   Slowly increasing, with occasional corrections!!    ::)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on May 10, 2017, 07:47:58 AM
What I had found interesting was the decrease in technician and general class licenses. Over a six week period there should of been a smoothing out of the daily volatility of the numbers with a modest increase.

This does appear to have some seasonal aspects that repeat annually. We seem to go on a hiatus in the springtime from VE sessions, attendance or membership drives. This too I would of expected a little upwards bump in advance of the field days.

I would expect that the ARRL would have someone who at least looks at the membership numbers and ways to improve our brand recognition or enhance the appeal to our target demographic.

What I suspect is that we, and the ARRL, do not understand what our target demographic should look like. We are staring inwards at our navels and can only see people like ourselves being involved in amateur radio.

Frankly I am surprised that we do not include membership paperwork in the AARP junk mail that begins to hit our homes when we turn 50. (not that I would want it, that is a demographic that is overplayed as it is).


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 26, 2017, 09:43:03 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 25, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,508     (1.3%)
Technician         373,340   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,958   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,696     (5.9%)
Extra                 144,076   (19.4%)

Total                 743,578


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AF7JA on May 26, 2017, 10:00:30 AM
To ask, do you have these numbers in a spreadsheet?

I want to run some analysis on them and don't want to key them all in if you have already done so. If the data already exists in a table it would be great.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on May 26, 2017, 11:31:52 AM
To ask, do you have these numbers in a spreadsheet?

I want to run some analysis on them and don't want to key them all in if you have already done so. If the data already exists in a table it would be great.
It's not exactly this data, but Joe Speroni AH0A has similar data directly on the web (http://ah0a.org/FCC/Licenses.html). It's pretty easy to just cut-and-paste from the web page to Excel (or some other spreadsheet application).

Joe's data is as of the end of each month, and it goes back to June 1997.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 26, 2017, 01:38:13 PM
To ask, do you have these numbers in a spreadsheet?

I want to run some analysis on them and don't want to key them all in if you have already done so. If the data already exists in a table it would be great.

Sorry, I don't. I just copy the totals from the source.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on May 27, 2017, 07:51:56 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on May 26, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,500     (1.3%)
Technician         373,410   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              172,961   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,670     (5.9%)
Extra                 144,078   (19.4%)

Total                 743,619


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AF7JA on May 27, 2017, 10:16:55 AM

It's not exactly this data, but Joe Speroni AH0A has similar data directly on the web (http://ah0a.org/FCC/Licenses.html). It's pretty easy to just cut-and-paste from the web page to Excel (or some other spreadsheet application).

Joe's data is as of the end of each month, and it goes back to June 1997.

Thanks


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AF7JA on May 27, 2017, 01:25:06 PM
(https://s5.postimg.org/luno6vqpj/ARS_data.jpg)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 15, 2017, 07:42:00 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 14, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,460     (1.3%)
Technician         373,429   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              173,005   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,539     (5.9%)
Extra                 144,210   (19.4%)

Total                 743,643


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AA4HA on June 16, 2017, 06:22:54 AM
(https://s5.postimg.org/luno6vqpj/ARS_data.jpg)

That is a great graph! thanks

Tisha


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on June 16, 2017, 06:26:25 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on June 15, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,458     (1.3%)
Technician         373,515   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,015   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,527     (5.9%)
Extra                 144,217   (19.4%)

Total                 743,732


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 19, 2017, 08:24:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 18, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,401     (1.3%)
Technician         373,482   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,172   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,339     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,378   (19.4%)

Total                 743,772


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 20, 2017, 06:44:28 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 19, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,401     (1.3%)
Technician         373,471   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,179   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,340     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,383   (19.4%)

Total                 743,774


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 21, 2017, 07:19:40 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 20, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,399     (1.3%)
Technician         373,555   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,207   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,333     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,393   (19.4%)

Total                 743,887


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 26, 2017, 06:48:16 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 25, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,385     (1.3%)
Technician         373,632   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,226   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,284     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,938   (19.5%)

Total                 743,925


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on July 26, 2017, 11:02:25 AM
Typo

Extra                 144,398   (19.5%)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 27, 2017, 06:23:40 AM
Typo

Extra                 144,398   (19.5%)

Thanks & 73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 27, 2017, 06:26:12 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 26, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,384     (1.3%)
Technician         373,623   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,238   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,284     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,409   (19.4%)

Total                 743,938


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 28, 2017, 01:21:10 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 27, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,383     (1.3%)
Technician         373,682   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,232   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,277     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,406   (19.4%)

Total                 743,980


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on July 29, 2017, 08:16:46 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on July 28, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,379     (1.3%)
Technician         373,745   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              173,222   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,258     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,410   (19.4%)

Total                 744,014


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new record high total.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 13, 2017, 03:34:51 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 12, 2017 was:

Novice:                9,357     (1.3%)
Technician         373,911   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              173,244   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,176     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,489   (19.4%)

Total                 744,177


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.



73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 17, 2017, 11:57:42 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 16, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,352     (1.3%)
Technician         373,979   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,280   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,173     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,529   (19.4%)

Total                 744,313


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.



73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 18, 2017, 09:06:41 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 17, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,350     (1.3%)
Technician         374,045   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,309   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,161     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,544   (19.4%)

Total                 744,409


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.



73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 19, 2017, 04:58:22 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 18, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,348     (1.3%)
Technician         374,077   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,304   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,154     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,555   (19.4%)

Total                 744,438


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.



73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on August 31, 2017, 06:29:24 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 30, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,306     (1.3%)
Technician         374,134   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,362   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,054     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,583   (19.4%)

Total                 744,439


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.



73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 01, 2017, 08:35:09 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on August 31, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,305     (1.2%)
Technician         374,195   (50.2%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General             173,394   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,051     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,596   (19.4%)

Total                 744,541


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 02, 2017, 08:53:43 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 1, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,304     (1.2%)
Technician          374,214   (50.2%)
Technician Plus             0     (0.0%)
General              173,407   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,046     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,601   (19.4%)

Total                 744,541


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 02, 2017, 06:39:24 PM
Total                 744,541


I get 744,572. Otherwise it wouldn't be an new all-time high--it would be the same as yesterday.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 03, 2017, 04:18:46 AM
Total                 744,541


I get 744,572. Otherwise it wouldn't be an new all-time high--it would be the same as yesterday.

Right you are! Thanks!

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 03, 2017, 04:19:35 AM
CORRECTED VERSION:

From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 1, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,304     (1.2%)
Technician          374,214   (50.2%)
Technician Plus             0     (0.0%)
General              173,407   (23.3%)
Advanced            43,046     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,601   (19.4%)

Total                 744,572


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 14, 2017, 06:42:01 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 13, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,281      (1.2%)
Technician          374,290   (50.2%)
Technician Plus             0     (0.0%)
General              173,421   (23.3%)
Advanced             42,976     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,622   (19.4%)

Total                 744,590


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 15, 2017, 06:41:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 14, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,280      (1.2%)
Technician          374,342   (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0     (0.0%)
General              173,441   (23.3%)
Advanced             42,972     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,635   (19.4%)

Total                 744,670


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 15, 2017, 07:47:55 AM
Last year we were trying to predict when the Novice license count would drop below 10,000, and when the Advanced count would drop below 45,000. Both occurred in January 2017. Maybe now we should look forward to the next milestones.

Based on the tracking I've been doing of Jim's numbers, my predictions for "Novices below 9,000" is 2 January 2018. Similarly, "Advanced below 40,000" is 27 Ocotber 2018.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 16, 2017, 04:24:49 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 15, 2017 was:

Novice:                 9,280      (1.2%)
Technician          374,411    (50.3%)
Technician Plus            0     (0.0%)
General              173,455    (23.3%)
Advanced            42,964     (5.8%)
Extra                 144,658    (19.4%)

Total                 744,768


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 22, 2017, 10:10:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 21, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,268      (1.2%)
Technician          374,512     (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,514     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,872       (5.8%)
Extra                  144,642     (19.4%)

Total                 744,808


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 23, 2017, 12:12:11 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 22, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,268      (1.2%)
Technician          374,527     (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,539     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,871       (5.8%)
Extra                  144,652     (19.4%)

Total                 744,857


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: PLANKEYE on September 23, 2017, 01:01:02 PM
I'm not sure I understand this thread.  Why or who cares about FCC license Counts?  Jim you keep putting up the stats and stuff but I'm not sure why.  What am I missing?       


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 23, 2017, 01:33:07 PM
I'm not sure I understand this thread.  Why or who cares about FCC license Counts?  Jim you keep putting up the stats and stuff but I'm not sure why.  What am I missing?       

i cant speak for Jim, but this thread certainly lays to rest the idea that Ham Radio is dying or dwindling.  (graphically it is an incline) 73  ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KQ4MM on September 23, 2017, 01:45:31 PM
Keep it up Jim,

I like to watch the trends and growth, especially the Advanced class, long way to go before there are none of us left.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 23, 2017, 02:51:09 PM
I'm not sure I understand this thread.  Why or who cares about FCC license Counts?  Jim you keep putting up the stats and stuff but I'm not sure why.  What am I missing?       

It's to have a record of sorts.

It used to be that you could tell the number of US hams from the Callbooks - but they're long gone. Various sources post various numbers, but often it's not clear if they include clubs and other non-individual licenses, and whether they include grace-period licenses or not.

ARRL posts the number of current, unexpired hams (no clubs, nobody in the grace period) so it's clearly the number of people who hold licenses. But ARRL doesn't archive the numbers, at least not that I can see. So the archive is here - you can see the trend since 2010, when this thread started.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: PLANKEYE on September 23, 2017, 02:52:46 PM
Ok I think I get it now.  I think if we would do away with testing those numbers would really go up.  If it's just a numbers game I guess that would be good.  Right or wrong?


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 23, 2017, 02:53:58 PM
Keep it up Jim,

I like to watch the trends and growth, especially the Advanced class, long way to go before there are none of us left.

When the FCC closed the Novice and Advanced to new issues in April 2000, there were about 50,000 Novices and 100,000 Advanceds. Now we're down to under 9300 Novices and 43,000 Advanceds. One wonders how long before they're all gone.

And despite the doomsayers, our numbers continue to grow.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 25, 2017, 03:06:45 AM
Ok I think I get it now.  I think if we would do away with testing those numbers would really go up.  If it's just a numbers game I guess that would be good.  Right or wrong?

the idea that we should embrace quantity without regard for quality is wrong -- but you already knew that; enough with the feigned ignorance ;)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 25, 2017, 05:49:41 AM
Ok I think I get it now.  I think if we would do away with testing those numbers would really go up.  If it's just a numbers game I guess that would be good.  Right or wrong?

the idea that we should embrace quantity without regard for quality is wrong -- but you already knew that; enough with the feigned ignorance ;)

1) How do we define "quality" in this context?

2) How do we get more quality?

3) License tests aren't going away any time soon - or even long term. They're required by treaty. Plus FCC has almost 60 years' experience with what happens without licensing.

4) A big part of the reason some new (and not-so-new) hams seem so "dumb" is because there's so much more to know today.



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: AC9RN on September 25, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
To shift gears within the topic here -

So, we have nearly 745,000 licenses out there, but how many of those licensees are active?  There is no source for that information that I know of. 

For instance, I am also a licensed skydiver, and a member of the USPA, and I have a full set of up-to-date gear, meaning, I can grab it out of the closet, put it on, and go jump today if I could.

 (However, I am not active in the sport due to health reasons.)


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on September 25, 2017, 11:47:56 AM

So, we have nearly 745,000 licenses out there, but how many of those licensees are active

And you definite "active" as???

There has never been any way to determine how many licensees are "active".

The best GUESS has always been that PERHAPS half the number of licensees at any point in time are actively "engaged" with (that is, actively interested in) ham radio (albeit not necessarily on-the-air).
And that includes back when the license term was far less than the current ten years.

And it has long estimated that half or more new licensees never get on the air.

In my view, the important thing is that whatever the percentage of "active" licensees, the number of expiring licenses that are renewed (a measure of those interested enough to keep their tickets) combined with new licenses being issued keeps resulting in overall growth.




Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3WN on September 25, 2017, 12:04:49 PM
I'm not sure I understand this thread.  Why or who cares about FCC license Counts?  Jim you keep putting up the stats and stuff but I'm not sure why.  What am I missing?       
Now, there's a loaded straight line if I've ever seen one.

However... if you truly don't get it, then don't worry about this thread and move along.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 25, 2017, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: PLANKEYE
Ok I think I get it now.  I think if we would do away with testing those numbers would really go up.  If it's just a numbers game I guess that would be good.  Right or wrong?

Quote from: N9KX
the idea that we should embrace quantity without regard for quality is wrong -- but you already knew that; enough with the feigned ignorance ;)

Quote from: N2EY
1) How do we define "quality" in this context?

that is an open question.  for me it would include licensed ham operators who have respect for the history of radio, radio operation, and science as well as international respect and a lack of jingoism or partisanship

Quote from: N2EY
2) How do we get more quality?

3) License tests aren't going away any time soon - or even long term. They're required by treaty. Plus FCC has almost 60 years' experience with what happens without licensing.

4) A big part of the reason some new (and not-so-new) hams seem so "dumb" is because there's so much more to know today.

certainly as the circumference of our light beam of knowledge about this mysterious universe that we are part of grows, so too does how much we realize we dont know.  but that is just the nature of knowledge.  but i would not have framed this around some idea that new hams are dumb.  i just think society in general is less courteous.  if ham radio is to continue to promote goodwill among amateur operators both within and between nations -- then i think we need to ask what would improve the tenor of on air ham radio discourse?  and i suppose one good answer can be taken from Ghandi -- be the change we wish to see in the world. ...

Jim, i would be interested in your own response to the 4 questions you've asked above...


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 27, 2017, 07:05:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 26, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,264      (1.2%)
Technician          374,598     (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,552     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,848       (5.8%)
Extra                  144,658     (19.4%)

Total                  744,920


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 28, 2017, 07:30:45 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 27, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,262      (1.2%)
Technician          374,679     (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,574     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,854       (5.8%)
Extra                  144,670     (19.4%)

Total                  745,039

First time over 745,000


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 29, 2017, 06:40:18 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 28, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,263      (1.2%)
Technician          374,722     (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,574     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,846       (5.8%)
Extra                  144,664     (19.4%)

Total                  745,069


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY




Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on September 29, 2017, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: PLANKEYE
Ok I think I get it now.  I think if we would do away with testing those numbers would really go up.  If it's just a numbers game I guess that would be good.  Right or wrong?

Quote from: N9KX
the idea that we should embrace quantity without regard for quality is wrong -- but you already knew that; enough with the feigned ignorance ;)

Quote from: N2EY
1) How do we define "quality" in this context?

Quote from: N9KX
that is an open question.  for me it would include licensed ham operators who have respect for the history of radio, radio operation, and science as well as international respect and a lack of jingoism or partisanship

Quote from: N2EY
2) How do we get more quality?

3) License tests aren't going away any time soon - or even long term. They're required by treaty. Plus FCC has almost 60 years' experience with what happens without licensing.

4) A big part of the reason some new (and not-so-new) hams seem so "dumb" is because there's so much more to know today.

Quote from: N9KX
certainly as the circumference of our light beam of knowledge about this mysterious universe that we are part of grows, so too does how much we realize we dont know.  but that is just the nature of knowledge.  but i would not have framed this around some idea that new hams are dumb.  i just think society in general is less courteous.  if ham radio is to continue to promote goodwill among amateur operators both within and between nations -- then i think we need to ask what would improve the tenor of on air ham radio discourse?  and i suppose one good answer can be taken from Ghandi -- be the change we wish to see in the world. ...

Jim, i would be interested in your own response to the questions you've asked above...

anyone have an opinion here or were these merely rhetorical questions? 


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: SWMAN on September 29, 2017, 10:38:30 AM
 Jim, Keep up the good work and keep the count going, I like to watch them. Thanks, Jim W5JJG


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on September 30, 2017, 07:05:24 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 29, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,257      (1.2%)
Technician          374,797     (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,583     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,837       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,668     (19.4%)

Total                  745,142


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on September 30, 2017, 07:48:06 PM
anyone have an opinion here or were these merely rhetorical questions? 

I'll take a shot...

"What is quality?" I like your definition. I'd add a desire to learn (as opposed to thinking you already know it all), a desire to help others, and a desire to "give back" to the hobby in some way.

"How do we get more quality?" Part of it is education, part is effective recruiting, part is elmering, but the best strategy is each of us being that kind of quality ham ourself.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: K3NRX on October 02, 2017, 04:56:06 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on September 29, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,257      (1.2%)
Technician          374,797     (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,583     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,837       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,668     (19.4%)

Total                  745,142


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


A new all time high record, eh?.....I must say Mr. Bond....you certainly are very spry for a dead (or dying) hobby!..... ::) ::) ::) ::)......I am curious though as to the number of Tech licenses as opposed to the higher classes......does anyone have an explanation as to why Tech has the most holders?......lousy HF conditions perhaps?.....lack of motivation?.......ya know, I thought that dropping the code requirement was supposed to increase those numbers.......

V
K3NRX



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on October 02, 2017, 06:13:10 AM
...I am curious though as to the number of Tech licenses as opposed to the higher classes......does anyone have an explanation as to why Tech has the most holders?......lousy HF conditions perhaps?.....lack of motivation?.......ya know, I thought that dropping the code requirement was supposed to increase those numbers.......

It's interesting watching these numbers change over time. Another good source of data is AH0A's web page (http://ah0a.org/FCC/Licenses.html). Joe has been collecting month-end license data for over twenty years now. Comparing the current data to that from March 2000 (just before License Restructuring went into effect):

- Total license count is up about 10%, but the distribution has changed.
- Numbers of Advanced and Novices dropped, as no new licenses of those classes have been issued since April 2000. Advanced dropped from 15.2% to 5.7%; Novices from 7.5% to 1.2%.
- Numbers of Extras and Generals increased as did their fraction of the total population. Extras went from 11.2% to 19.4%; Generals went from 16.2% to 23.3%.
- Interestingly, though the number of Tech licenses went up, the fraction of population stayed about the same: 49.9% to 50.3%.
- Net effect of the above is that the fraction of hams with higher-level licenses (i.e., General or higher) went up from 42.6% to 48.5%. I think this is the bump you were expecting for the drop in code requirements.

There are likely many reasons for the percentage of Tech licenses staying the same, and all we can do is speculate. My speculations fall along the following lines:

- This is the entry-level license. Almost all newbies will start here.
- Some fraction of these will never do much, and will either drop out without renewing, or will renew and never get active. So there's an inactive base number that won't change much.
- Some of these are EmComm folks whose only interest is local VHF/UHF. These have no need to upgrade.
- Some of these are in the "I'll get to it sooner or later" category, and there are a significant number of upgrades happening. Since the license structure has been stable for a while, this is likely also a relatively static percentage.
- Many licensees are in a "I'm satisfied with the privileges I have" category, which is fine. Some may really truly be satisfied with amateur radio as they use it. But I think some of these are also in a "don't know what they're missing" category. They're the ones who don't pay attention to sunspots or propagation conditions, which HF contest is this weekend, and when the next DXpedition to KH3 is going to happen because they don't know how much fun some of those activities can be.

Turning all those speculations into hard numbers is really hard, and I'm not sure what we'd do with them. I think the best approach is continued education and exposure. That means presentations and demonstrations at club meetings, publications (both print and Internet), and personal contacts.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9KX on October 02, 2017, 03:05:43 PM

It's interesting watching these numbers change over time. Another good source of data is AH0A's web page (http://ah0a.org/FCC/Licenses.html). Joe has been collecting month-end license data for over twenty years now. Comparing the current data to that from March 2000 (just before License Restructuring went into effect):

- Total license count is up about 10%, but the distribution has changed.
- Numbers of Advanced and Novices dropped, as no new licenses of those classes have been issued since April 2000. Advanced dropped from 15.2% to 5.7%; Novices from 7.5% to 1.2%.
- Numbers of Extras and Generals increased as did their fraction of the total population. Extras went from 11.2% to 19.4%; Generals went from 16.2% to 23.3%.
- Interestingly, though the number of Tech licenses went up, the fraction of population stayed about the same: 49.9% to 50.3%.
- Net effect of the above is that the fraction of hams with higher-level licenses (i.e., General or higher) went up from 42.6% to 48.5%. I think this is the bump you were expecting for the drop in code requirements.

There are likely many reasons for the percentage of Tech licenses staying the same, and all we can do is speculate. My speculations fall along the following lines:

- This is the entry-level license. Almost all newbies will start here.
- Some fraction of these will never do much, and will either drop out without renewing, or will renew and never get active. So there's an inactive base number that won't change much.
- Some of these are EmComm folks whose only interest is local VHF/UHF. These have no need to upgrade.
- Some of these are in the "I'll get to it sooner or later" category, and there are a significant number of upgrades happening. Since the license structure has been stable for a while, this is likely also a relatively static percentage.
- Many licensees are in a "I'm satisfied with the privileges I have" category, which is fine. Some may really truly be satisfied with amateur radio as they use it. But I think some of these are also in a "don't know what they're missing" category. They're the ones who don't pay attention to sunspots or propagation conditions, which HF contest is this weekend, and when the next DXpedition to KH3 is going to happen because they don't know how much fun some of those activities can be.

Turning all those speculations into hard numbers is really hard, and I'm not sure what we'd do with them. I think the best approach is continued education and exposure. That means presentations and demonstrations at club meetings, publications (both print and Internet), and personal contacts.


so, if i am reading you and the numbers correctly -- Generals and Extras tend to maintain their licenses for longer periods of time than Technicians (which also makes intuitive sense).


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: W3HF on October 02, 2017, 04:21:52 PM
so, if i am reading you and the numbers correctly -- Generals and Extras tend to maintain their licenses for longer periods of time than Technicians (which also makes intuitive sense).

Well I didn't actually say that, and I'm not sure if you can really infer that level of detail. There's nothing in this data that actually says that any of the licensees in 2017 were licensed in 2000, though I know that's a fact--I'm proof of it. In fact, what the data DOES say is that there are over 52,000 hams who hold EXACTLY the same license class they held 17 years ago, as everyone who is now either a Novice or Advanced must have held that same license class when the doors closed.

But I think it's a truism that hams who bothered to upgrade have more invested in the hobby. Furthermore, it's logical that those who have more invested are less likely to drop out, but this data doesn't prove that premise. To really figure that out, one would have to find data that shows the rate at which the different license classes expire and are not renewed, and somehow make a distinction between "expire due to death" and "expire for other reasons" (such as lack of interest). I'm sure someone could mine the ULS to determine expiration rates by license class, but there's no data available on reasons for expiration.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N9AOP on October 03, 2017, 08:49:25 AM
In this county the number of new hams has doubled due to ham-in-a-day classes but to what end?  They don't get on the air and use their licenses so that the actual number of active hams has decreased due to those that vapor locked.
Art


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: KS2G on October 03, 2017, 07:21:14 PM
... the actual number of active hams has decreased...

And you base that statement on????

First -- what's the definition of "active"?
You appear to mean that they're on-the-air.
But there are many hams that are not on-the-air for a variety of reasons, but are "active" in off-air activities with clubs, license classes, VE teams, etc.

Besides, there's never been a way to determine how many licensees are on-the-air.

The best GUESS has long been that about half of licensees are "active" in some way or another ... and that's still the case.

You are correct, however, that a large proportion of new licensees never get on the air.

Bottom line: the proportion of licensees who are "active" is probably what it's always been -- about half, which means that that number  --like the number of licensees-- is at an all time high.


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 05, 2017, 07:02:47 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 4, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,249      (1.2%)
Technician          374,838     (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,617     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,812       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,700     (19.4%)

Total                  745,216


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 13, 2017, 07:46:31 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 12, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,240      (1.2%)
Technician          375,127    (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,604     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,726       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,689     (19.4%)

Total                  745,386


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 20, 2017, 07:05:06 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 19, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,224      (1.2%)
Technician          375,266    (50.3%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,647     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,619       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,670     (19.4%)

Total                  745,426


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 26, 2017, 07:50:49 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 25, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,208      (1.2%)
Technician          375,555    (50.4%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,717     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,523       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,678     (19.4%)

Total                  745,678


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 27, 2017, 08:20:46 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 26, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,201      (1.2%)
Technician          375,617    (50.4%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,697     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,506       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,672     (19.4%)

Total                  745,693


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 28, 2017, 06:01:03 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 27, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,196      (1.2%)
Technician          375,693    (50.4%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,716     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,498       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,691     (19.4%)

Total                  745,794


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on October 31, 2017, 07:23:30 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 30, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,190      (1.2%)
Technician          375,743    (50.4%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,717     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,478       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,676     (19.4%)

Total                  745,804


Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 01, 2017, 09:06:52 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on October 31, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,188      (1.2%)
Technician          375,906    (50.4%)
Technician Plus             0      (0.0%)
General              173,768     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,479       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,710     (19.4%)

Total                  746,051

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 03, 2017, 11:12:32 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 2, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,187      (1.2%)
Technician           375,996    (50.4%)
Technician Plus              0      (0.0%)
General               173,810     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,479       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,754     (19.4%)

Total                  746,226

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 08, 2017, 06:42:08 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 7, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,176      (1.2%)
Technician           376,218    (50.4%)
Technician Plus              0      (0.0%)
General               173,769     (23.3%)
Advanced             42,439       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,768     (19.4%)

Total                  746,370

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 09, 2017, 06:38:20 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 8, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,176      (1.2%)
Technician           376,319    (50.4%)
Technician Plus              0      (0.0%)
General               173,801    (23.3%)
Advanced             42,438       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,788     (19.4%)

Total                  746,522

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 11, 2017, 06:11:17 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 10, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,165      (1.2%)
Technician           376,434    (50.4%)
Technician Plus              0      (0.0%)
General               173,764    (23.3%)
Advanced             42,390       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,778     (19.4%)

Total                  746,531

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 15, 2017, 06:31:13 AM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 14, 2017 was:

Novice:                  9,147      (1.2%)
Technician           376,521    (50.4%)
Technician Plus              0      (0.0%)
General               173,807    (23.3%)
Advanced             42,337       (5.7%)
Extra                  144,805     (19.4%)

Total                  746,617

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY



Title: RE: FCC License Counts
Post by: N2EY on November 16, 2017, 12:25:40 PM
From http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts

the number of current unexpired FCC issued amateur licenses held by individuals on November 15, 2017 was:

Novice:                   9,147      (1.2%)
Technician           376,677    (50.4%)
Technician Plus              0      (0.0%)
General               173,844    (23.3%)
Advanced              42,336       (5.7%)
Extra                   144,815     (19.4%)

Total                   746,819

Percentages may not add up to exactly 100.0% due to rounding.

No new Novice or Advanced licenses have been issued since April 2000. However, the totals for those classes may sometimes show an increase over prior numbers due to renewals in the grace period.

This is a new all-time high record.


73 de Jim, N2EY