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Title: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: NA7I on November 11, 2010, 07:20:20 PM
eHam used to be a site I frequented. No more. I will not be renewing my subscription.

It really does not matter what your reasons for all the sloooowwwwwly loading ad banners are. If you can't cut it, get out of the market.

I don't have time to waste watching b.s. between each page.

bye bye


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: NA7I on November 11, 2010, 07:22:06 PM
In fact, at this rate, I predict your website will be offline, long gone, by next summer.
NA7I


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K5TR on November 11, 2010, 09:02:54 PM
Based on your comments I gather you are having some issue with either banner or page loading.

I am very sorry that the site has been frustrating to use.

As far as I know yours is the first report.  I do know that I have seen some slow loading issues with our
ad server setup over the last week or so but only a few times and only for short periods.  In fact just last week we moved the ads to a different bit of server hardware and I thought it was working quite well, it sounds like we have some further tweaking to work out.

It would be most helpful if you could provide me with more details about what you have seen so I can work on resolving this issue.
Time of day? 
How long you were seeing the problems?
Other things you have seen?

Thanks for the heads up.  I will look at this issue and it's possible causes.

Of course as I use the site right now it is loading very quickly for me.

Thank You



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K5TR on November 12, 2010, 07:28:49 AM

Bob,

Thanks for the report.

We made a change to the ad server this morning that appears to have taken out further loading delays (short) that we have been  trying to solve.  There was a longer hanging problem with the ad server that we were seeing - we hope we have also killed that off but we will not know for sure until we live with real loads over time.

The delay in the forum loading that you see - has this been recently?

We did have an issue with the forums that was also affecting the site in general that we finally figured out last a month or two ago.
It was one of those loading issues that would only happen every so often under the right conditions and so it was hard to be watching when it would occur.   I was very happy when I finally figured out what was going on with that one.

Thanks for the reports and we will keep working to improve page loading times.



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K0IZ on November 12, 2010, 08:04:46 AM
George, I'm impressed with your responsiveness to comments.

I go into eHam fairly often during the day/early evening, and haven't noticed any great delays.  Depending upon one's ISP, problem might be local congestion rather than your site.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: AA4PB on November 12, 2010, 10:42:50 AM
George, its probably been a couple of weeks since I've seen it.

73, Bob


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KE4DRN on November 12, 2010, 04:50:08 PM
to NA7I,

Before you leave eHam.net...

please clear your  browser cache and then shutdown
the browser and restart it and see what happens.

Since I have a paid subscription with eHam.net,
I use Firefox with FlashBlock and never see the ads.

Once in a while the site is slow loading in the evenings,
but then recovers and is robust.
I'm on a fast connection at the university NCSU.EDU

73 james


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K0BG on November 13, 2010, 10:32:33 AM
Personal opinion for what's it's worth. I don't believe the issue is eham.net per sé. Every time, not just once in a while mind you, but every time the site is slow, it's waiting on Google analytics to respond.

At least know, I see that as the last load.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K5TR on November 13, 2010, 10:33:29 AM
The ad server change we made yesterday morning seems to have help the issues that I was seeing with that part of the site loading.  Yesterday during the day I did a lot of testing and page load times seemed really good.  I also made some tweaks to page layout that was causing some ads to load in the middle of the page before the page was fully loaded.  So far (for me) the site feels fairly fast.  I am always working to improve page load times.  

Thanks again for for all the input.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K5TR on November 13, 2010, 10:36:50 AM
Personal opinion for what's it's worth. I don't believe the issue is eham.net per sé. Every time, not just once in a while mind you, but every time the site is slow, it's waiting on Google analytics to respond.

At least know, I see that as the last load.

That may be the case - and if something from Google is slower to load then my stuff I feel like I am making progress.
The Google analytics stuff is something that I could turn off but it is useful for me as a way to track usage of the site. It tells me a lot of detail about what parts of the site are most used and other such information.



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K1CJS on November 13, 2010, 12:09:13 PM
Another thing to keep in mind is the possibility of the internet security programs that may be being used by individuals on their computers.  Offen times, the security program may stop the loading until it's done with the security scan it may be set to do.  I've got Norton Internet Security on my machine, and sometimes I see loading delays too when the internet is busiest, like in the evenings.

I'm not saying that is the ultimate cause, but it is another thing to check on when looking for a problem.  In other words, it may not even be a specific site--it may be YOUR machine!

73!


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: LU2DFM on November 14, 2010, 04:17:24 AM
Hi George et al,
Even when I'm not very concerned by the topic posted by the OP, nor I endorse the impoliteness and lack of education that his post evidences, I realize that this problem can in fact be frustrating to other users.

GA and external server ads are a problem not only in eHam, of course; most ISPs these days force www through a compulsory proxy so the perceived speed of serving a page for the user POV is really much faster than if the request were actually served from the internet. These scheme has some advantages but a key con is the fact that request that cannot be cached in the proxy must concur in the ISP's pipe and those pipes sometimes are sub-dimensioned particularly in peak traffic hours. The perceived effect is a slowdown.

Here's for me another chance to bring up Slashdot that I'm rush: jump on your 1997 Malibu, go to the airport and take a fly to 2010certainly not letting pass over: /. sets and option for "good karma" users to permit them block ads. Since eHam doesn't have a karma system, could you George consider to let subscribers set a no ads option?

Anyway, I can't believe there are people out there without AdBlock Plus... it's 2010, come on (I do realize that this line could be counter productive...)

73 de Fer


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: WY3X on November 14, 2010, 08:35:35 AM
As a "pay" member, I believe that I have the right to either A. not have ads sent to me from the website and/or B. I have the right to run ad-blocking software so I'm not annoyed by ads. Others may not agree with me, and that's your prerogative.

I use FireFox and SeaMonkey (Mozilla-based) browsers, and install NoScript script blocker and Adblock Plus add-ins, along with WOT (Web Of Trust). These generally block all ads, and the few that get by, I can right-click and tell my computer to block them. They also help protect you from being re-directed to malicious websites and stop pop-ups dead in their tracks. (Even ones that you may desire, but you are given the option to allow them either TEMPORARILY or PERMANENTLY on a per-site basis.) At the end of a session you can revoke all temporary permissions.

If ads are your issue, I can almost guarantee a 100% success rate at blocking them with these measures, and your browsing experience will be 100% improved!

Nothing personal against the eHam webmasters, but I absolutely despise ads interfering with my browsing experience. I haven't purchased anything based on an ad "informing" me of a product in the last 20 years, and don't intend to start now. And yes, I mute advertisement audio on all TV commercials too! (And would blank the picture as well if given the option!)

73, -WY3X


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: LU2DFM on November 14, 2010, 10:46:13 AM
If ads are your issue, I can almost guarantee a 100% success rate at blocking them with these measures, and your browsing experience will be 100% improved!
It's very clear that his issues are not the ads themselves, but his inability to properly deal with today's www.

...I haven't purchased anything based on an ad "informing" me of a product in the last 20 years, and don't intend to start now. And yes, I mute advertisement audio on all TV commercials too! (And would blank the picture as well if given the option!)
I made a similar decision years ago too and I don't feel like missing anything important.

The fact is that for some time on, web ads will be there because if their impact or effectiveness is questionable, one thing about them is that  they provide a mean for community sites like this one to partially fill the bill, which can grow very fast as the user base expands. At the very least, setting an option for members to disable ads, they constitute a good incentive to get new subscribers.

I do use adblock and noscript of course, but as a member of some community sites where I'm not a subscriber (like here) I let the ads run and click on some of them time to time to let the site get a click count.
But eHam really needs a policy to limit announcers: here I'm typing next to two ads, one for the N3ZN paddles which is an image, and perfectly fine with me, and the bottom one with bees that's the most stupid and annoying thing you could ever conceive if you had lost half your brain. This kind of ad is what compels people to hit Ctrl-W ASAP, or install adblockplus.

73 de Fer


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K5TR on November 15, 2010, 09:11:50 AM
Here's for me another chance to bring up Slashdot that I'm rush: jump on your 1997 Malibu, go to the airport and take a fly to 2010certainly not letting pass over: /. sets and option for "good karma" users to permit them block ads. Since eHam doesn't have a karma system, could you George consider to let subscribers set a no ads option?

Fer,

I have considered this before and rejected it for a number of reasons.  But I am always open to suggestions and perhaps we could offer this in the future.  We do it on the DX spots page now - there is one ad there that only shows up if you are not logged in or if you are not a subscriber.  It is a google ad on the right hand side of the page.  So I am not totally against the idea.  Perhaps I could start with
that - being a subscriber would make google ads go away. 

As you note - these ads do help pay for the web site - and at over 4 million page views a month this is not a trivial matter.

Thanks for the comments.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: LU2DFM on November 17, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
As you note - these ads do help pay for the web site - and at over 4 million page views a month this is not a trivial matter.

George,
Yes, I'm really aware of the importance of GA. I do housekeeping for some community/not-for-profit sites and most important money incoming frequently comes from there.

I don't know if both incomes (GA and subscriptions) are overlapping, i.e. if the subscribers are also the clickers in the adds. I suspect that the 4M hit should include a lot of non-subscribers, but you'll have to do the math yourself ;-)
Anyway, I stand by my statement that the real problem is not the advertising by itself, but the annoyance that some of the advertising produces. I do know that you have little or no control over that.

I'm sorry for rising up the question on adblock. The fact is that it's not reasonable to expect the current status quo in this area to persist too long into the future, so it's good for everyone to think about alternatives now before adsense comes to a stop.

PS: sorry about the interpolation in the previous post, it slipped.



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KD8MJR on November 19, 2010, 12:00:11 PM
I really suggest you do this, most Ham operators do not live in the Big Cities with 5mb internet connections, most Hams live in rural areas and use Dial up.   Project that on a Global level and it even gets worst, I know Hams that use their Cell phone's Edge connection to link their Laptops to the Net, thats slower than even Dialup :o




I have considered this before and rejected it for a number of reasons.  But I am always open to suggestions and perhaps we could offer this in the future.

snip

Thanks for the comments.



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: WN2C on November 20, 2010, 09:32:39 AM
What adds??  I don't see any and am not experiencing any real slowness in pages loading.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K1CJS on November 21, 2010, 08:31:49 AM
Oh, the ads are there.  It's just that you don't really pay any attention to them.  --Neither do I.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: N4MJG on November 27, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
I never have any problem ! i built lotta computers over years never a problem  on Eham !


73
Jackie
N4MJG
WWW.N4MJG.COM


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: W1RKW on December 04, 2010, 02:31:43 PM
Tip for everyone.

If you want to block ads on any website simply determine the web address where the ad originates and block it with a modification to you Windows hosts file.  For example if you want to block ads on CNN.com right click on the ad and open its properties.  Chances are it will reveal the web address where the ad originates from.  Copy the web address to your hosts file located on your C drive and block it by directing it to IP address 127.0.0.1 .  To alter the hosts file use this example:  127.0.0.1  ads.cnn.com

And if you want to protect your computer from malicious websites, unwanted popups, and many other annoying things, visit www.mvps.org and down load their host file and install it into your windows hosts file.  You can also use this to block websites altogether if you want to prevent someone in your household from accessing a questionable website. 

Good luck.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KB6YH on December 06, 2010, 10:31:21 AM
Eham works great for me. I have no complaints. 73 Bill KB6YH


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: W4KVW on December 10, 2010, 09:00:45 PM
ZERO issues here?Guess SOME peope may have a SLOW service & want to blame your site? ???
I think the site will do JUST FINE without him so keep up the GREAT work guys! }:>)

GOD BLESS,
Clayton
W4KVW


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: AD6KA on December 10, 2010, 10:53:10 PM
Quote
most Ham operators do not live in the Big Cities with 5mb internet connections, most Hams live in rural areas and use Dial up.


MOST hams use Dial Up? That's just silly.
Come on, let's see your data.
Or is it just anecdotal, or opinion?

You'll have to define "Big Cities" too.
Broadband in the USA has penetrated %75 of rural areas as
of the Second Quarter of 2009. With "rural areas" being defined
as "markets (towns) of less than 10,000 people".

Here's real world data, not "help all us poor Hams livin' down in the holler".
Internet Usage Breakdown by State, Income, Population Density,
(Urban, Rural, Principal City), Education, Employment, Education,
much , much more:
http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/USA_Internet_Usage_2007.pdf
And
http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/us.htm


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K1CJS on December 11, 2010, 07:59:02 AM
Cable modems aren't in use just in 'big cities', and most of the time wherever there are cable modems available, the speed that can be had with them is well above 5mbps speeds.  AAMOF, the 5mbps speed is what is available on DSL installations in most urban and suburban areas.

Comcast, for example, has speeds available through cable modems approaching 30 mbps in my area, a SMALL city. 


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K0BG on December 11, 2010, 08:24:27 AM
I'm of the notion, that folks who are still on dial-up, are just too cheap to upgrade to high speed access.



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: W3LK on December 11, 2010, 12:53:14 PM
I'm of the notion, that folks who are still on dial-up, are just too cheap to upgrade to high speed access.

Amen!

I live in a town of about 20k and I pay $20/mo for a 3mbps DSL connection. 5mbps is available for $30.

If I wanted to pay Comcast's rates (which I don't) I could get 30mbps, too, but I don't need that much speed enough to pay their outrageous (in my area) rates.

I'm betting the overwhelming majority of eHam users are NOT on dial-up.



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KB3HG on December 16, 2010, 04:44:43 AM
Quote from: K0BG on December 11, 2010, 08:24:27 AM
I'm of the notion, that folks who are still on dial-up, are just too cheap to upgrade to high speed access.

It is what it is.

I have Verizon DSL (Dead Slow Line) There are many times when I check my speed and a 56K twisted pair @ 41k would be faster, other times I'm 321K. But when I can read at the bottom of my screen waiting on ad whatever to load, it is what it is slow. I don't have to like it but I accept it. Verizon keeps sending me stuff to go FIOS, They can't get it right with DSL so why waste money hoping for better service with FIOS. I went through June, July and August with dead slow or no DSL service. Many hours wasted on hold to India bad lines to customer service and then the twenty questions and never a problem with anything on my property, always about half a mile away at a slick (Jbox).

Comcast not a chance, as bad or worse than Verizon, Am currently looking at Dish internet. A coworker has it and is very pleased.

Never could figure out how somebody could sell 24/365 service and not support it on weekends or night. Fiduciary responsibilities or not only 8 to 5 service appointment times.

Tom Kb3hg



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KD4LLA on December 17, 2010, 11:10:41 AM
I use Firefox w/ Adblock Plus.  I understand the need for the ads.  There was a time a year ago I thought the 'Net was slowing during the day.  I have been laid off so during the morning hours I was searching for work/jobs and such.  Maybe there were many others doing the same thing.

I don't see were this site or any other lately is slow.  I live in the sticks, yet have DSL (5 miles from a town, pop. 4,000).  Did a speed check just the other day, 0.96 Mb/s d/l and 0.21 Mb/s u/l.  Yeah, it could be faster I guess, but I am able to watch TV shows online (Fancast.com) with very little problems (second video card to send to TV).  Those ads in the TV online are only 30 sec long, hardly enough time to get a beer from the refrigerator!

A ham friend and I were just talking about blocking the other day and how Google has its fingers in everything.

W1RKW, you got my attention with the "host" file.  I looked and could not find anything like that in my C: drive.  I do not use Internet Explorer, could this be why I do not have this file?

Mike


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: AA4HA on December 17, 2010, 12:34:13 PM
Site Admins,
I have no complaints at all about the site and find it invaluable and each day I learn something else from other hams. I spend probably 4-5 more time on eHam than on QRZ or some of the other complimentary sites. (watch, now QRZ will ban me for blasphemy <g>).

The ads have not hindered my navigation of the site and I have frequented a few of the vendors listed, in response to their ads that remind me of something I need or want.

I am on the site so often that when I type in nearly any ham or radio related query into Google it places eHam posts near the top of my sorted results (I use a signed in Google account so it tracks me). I know this helps with Google analytics and page ranking. Anything that brings more hams to eHam where they can contribute and learn is a good thing.

I need to recognize that the person who started this thread, critical of eHam is not a very prolific poster or has not been around for very long with only 7 posts to his account. If you were hearing complaints from folks who have a few hundred or a few thousand postings then it would be worrisome.

thanks for all of your efforts,
Tisha Hayes
AA4HA


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: W3LK on December 17, 2010, 05:03:38 PM
Ditto to Tisha's conclusions.

eHam runs fine for me.

73,

Lon - W3LK
Naugatuck, Connecticut


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K1CJS on December 18, 2010, 04:56:43 AM
'You can't please all the people all of the time, so be happy if you end up pleasing most of the people most of the time.'

I think e-ham has done just that.

Addition---E-ham runs just fine for me too.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: N2MG on December 18, 2010, 11:38:31 AM
I need to recognize that the person who started this thread, critical of eHam is not a very prolific poster or has not been around for very long with only 7 posts to his account. If you were hearing complaints from folks who have a few hundred or a few thousand postings then it would be worrisome.

Thanks for the kind words.

A point however... Not everyone who frequents eHam is neccessarily a high-volume poster to the boards.  Some only want to check out the ads, or the reviews or maybe the news.  We certainly want to respect their views.  If they are experiencing some sort of problem, we'd like to hear about, and (importantly) be given a chance to resolve it.  Not sure we were given the chance in this instance.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K2FOX on March 05, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
I'm of the notion, that folks who are still on dial-up, are just too cheap to upgrade to high speed access.



Having high speed internet is nice, but maybe dial up is all they can afford. 

Calling them "cheap" is a "cheap shot".


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: N1UK on May 28, 2011, 05:41:33 PM
High speed internet is not available to some people.....such as myself...I have been waiting for DSL for 8 years now.

Mark N1UK


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KP2Z on May 31, 2011, 05:58:04 PM
I find the eHam FB. The ads don't bother me. In fact I find them useful. One click on a Giga Parts ad takes me to the sweepstakes contest with the bonus question! Or two clicks and I'm checking out an advertisers used equipment section. So eHam team, keep up the good work.

73,
Tony KP2Z


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: W9CW on June 08, 2011, 08:48:23 AM
The ads don't bother me either, as it's necessary to help keep the site up and running.  I've checked the site with IE, Firefox, Opera, and Chrome, but I normally use Firefox.  The site is a bit slow to initially load, and Firefox is a bit sluggish with this.  The fastest browser for the initial load by far is Opera.  Perhaps the OP needs to consider the use of another browser.

73
Don W9CW


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K1CJS on June 16, 2011, 12:44:04 PM
High speed internet is not available to some people.....such as myself...I have been waiting for DSL for 8 years now.

Mark N1UK

Mark,
High speed internet IS available to you, but maybe you don't want or are not aware of satellite internet by Hughes.  The start-up costs may be a bit high, and the price may be a little higher per month than DSL, but it is available in all parts of the US.

Understand, I'm not trying to call you cheap, but your excuse really doesn't hold water--if you WANT high speed internet. that is!  Maybe you just don't want it bad enough--just as some other people don't  73!

Chris, K1CJS


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K1CJS on June 16, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
I live in a town of about 20k and I pay $20/mo for a 3mbps DSL connection. 5mbps is available for $30.

If I wanted to pay Comcast's rates (which I don't) I could get 30mbps, too, but I don't need that much speed enough to pay their outrageous (in my area) rates.

I'm betting the overwhelming majority of eHam users are NOT on dial-up.

Lon, not to say you're wrong, but Comcast has different service packages.  Some of those are higher priced--and some are downright ridiculous.  For example, if I were to want ONLY an internet connection--30 MBPS--it would cost me $40 a month plus fees and taxes.  BUT....  I can get Comcast internet AND phone service combined--for $45 a month plus fees and taxes!

Imagine that!  A land line phone for $5 a month!   ;D  You would be hard pressed to get a land line phone alone for $25 a month.

AAMOF, once I get back to work, that is just what I'm going to do.  73!


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: K1CJS on June 16, 2011, 01:00:54 PM
....I have Verizon DSL (Dead Slow Line) There are many times when I check my speed and a 56K twisted pair @ 41k would be faster, other times I'm 321K. But when I can read at the bottom of my screen waiting on ad whatever to load, it is what it is slow. I don't have to like it but I accept it. Verizon keeps sending me stuff to go FIOS, They can't get it right with DSL so why waste money hoping for better service with FIOS....

DSL involves too many junction points and signal amplifiers--and old twisted pairs and trunk cables--to do much better than 5 to 7 mpbs IN URBAN AREAS.  They're hard pressed to do 1 mpbs in outlying areas.  Considering that FIOS is new equipment, the reason that it is failing isn't the equipment, but the science.  Fiber optics has come a long way, but broadband fiber optics seems to be still in its infancy--as shown by Verizon and its inability to offer consistently stable service.

FIOS is being reexamined and the deployment of the service has been slowed to the point that it isn't going out fast at all.  That is word of mouth from my cousin, who is a senior supervisor with Verizon.

It seems that cable will continue to be the premier broadband service for a while yet.  


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KJ4FUU on June 17, 2011, 08:21:13 AM
eham.net at home, using a recent version of FireFox works fine.

At work, it's a different situation. Unfortunately, due to legacy application issues, I am still using IE6. When I go to the reviews, I get Javascript errors. Also, I had to add a bunch of doubleclick's addresses into my hosts file set to 127.0.0.1, because some of doubleclick's ActiveX/Javascript would lock up my browser. It might be something that would eventually render, but I didn't have the time to waste.

I occasionally get a Javascript error in the forums, also.

73,

-- Tom


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: TWORLD1000 on July 04, 2011, 03:01:28 PM
It's really not the fault of the site. I may be wrong but if you use an older computer you will find much slower browser than a newer generation computer. Run task manager on your computer you will find that your browser takes up  a lot of memory of the computer. I have a hobby of having multiple sessions of the browser and each with a number of tabs. They really load up the memory and slow down quite significantly my computer.

If your computer has less than 1GB of memory you definitely will not like the speed of your browser. It is really the java script running on your computer that takes up the resource of the computer.  The browser is free (such as Firefox) but there is no free lunch really. The java script is for those banners, video clips and and all the commercials taking time to trying to catch your attention.  Java is the cause of the problem of slow browsers for older computers, if you happen to use one.

I found eHAM excellent, although I just joined recently. I do not feel it slow at all.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: SWMAN on July 05, 2011, 03:58:52 AM
 I use a cheap little old Blackberry and I have no problem veiwing, loading or any other problem using Eham. I guess
Mr. Dick must have other problems with his computor or something else. Eham is my favorite of all ham sights, keep up the good work Eham and 73 to you guys.
 Jim. W5JJG


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KB1TXK on July 07, 2011, 11:05:53 AM
I use a cheap little old Blackberry and I have no problem veiwing, loading or any other problem using Eham. I guess
Mr. Dick must have other problems with his computor or something else. Eham is my favorite of all ham sights, keep up the good work Eham and 73 to you guys.
 Jim. W5JJG

The original post was made a year ago.  I liked the part where the entire eHam site was going to fail and go offline because there was a period of 5 minutes where the ad-server was acting numb.



Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: KB1TXK on July 07, 2011, 11:07:03 AM
And at least he (the original poster) stuck to his guns. Credit where credit is due hahaha.

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Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: RUSTYSTUFF on July 22, 2011, 11:42:10 AM
I'm of the notion, that folks who are still on dial-up, are just too cheap to upgrade to high speed access.



I'd love Highspeed, but the Fiberoptics line is run on the other size of the highway, so the Phone company that owns it, told us we arnt worth the money to run a line to my road.


I'm on Dial-up and the site loads fast most of the time.


Title: RE: Won't Be Renewing - eHam a dog
Post by: AE1PT on October 17, 2011, 12:45:26 PM
Well, it looks like Summer 2011 has come and gone.  The OP posited that eHam would be gone by now.  So much for taking this guy to the race track...   :D