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Title: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: K1LEM on May 24, 2011, 06:58:15 AM
 :D
I was curious after years of seeing Joey, WB2JKJ ads for hand me down radio gear ostensibly to generate amateur radio in public schools. He has a fairly good size soliciation in Q Street and on their web site.

Wondering, I asked an independent no amateur investigator to call his operations. Realise I had no ill intent just curiousity.

Joey was on air with the Retired Teachers School House net when the investiagtor called. However Joey did return the call.
What he said was rather a spin or was it a smoke and mirrors routine.
When asked how many schools his organization had provided equipment for in the last five years, there was a pause and only after thought did he mention one school in Florida.

When asked what he did with money he said he placed other ads in Q street
When asked if anything else he said he went to Las Vegas every year with the cash. Nobody is observing what he does there or even if he goes. He says its to tell teachers what a great thing amatuer radio is and so it appears its a promotional while he is in Vegas.

The investigators asked why Vegas, no answer, but Joey said he planned a summer camp for kids on a beach in Maine.
Asked why a resort or beach he said, " we have to go where the kids are."

Well, I do think at least Joey needs to be a lot more transparent with what he does with money donated and publish for the record the disbursement of his carities fund.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: K8AXW on May 25, 2011, 09:33:40 AM
P.T. Barnum, of the Barnum and Baily fame, was quoted as saying, "There's one born every minute and two to take him!" 

The main problem with JKJ is that I never thought of it first!  :-)


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: AD6KA on May 25, 2011, 08:00:14 PM
He'd BETTER account for money made
from donations & sales, since he lists his outfit as an
"IRS approved 501 (c)(3) charity"
and
"Get the tax credit and help a worthy cause."

Funny thing....searching every which way from Sunday,
WB2JKJ and The Radio Club of Junior High School 22 and Educom
DO NOT APPEAR in the IRS's Publication 78:
Quote
Publication 78, Cumulative List of Organizations described in Section 170(c) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986,
is a list of organizations eligible to receive tax-deductible charitable contributions.

Quote
Donors may also verify 501(c)(3) organizations on the web-based, searchable IRS list of charitable organizations
Try for yourself.....http://www.irs.gov/app/pub-78/


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: K1LEM on May 26, 2011, 08:48:35 AM
Funny thing....searching every which way from Sunday,
WB2JKJ and The Radio Club of Junior High School 22 and Educom
DO NOT APPEAR in the IRS's Publication 78:
Quote
Publication 78, Cumulative List of Organizations described in Section 170(c) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986,
is a list of organizations eligible to receive tax-deductible charitable contributions.

Quote
Donors may also verify 501(c)(3) organizations on the web-based, searchable IRS list of charitable organizations
Try for yourself.....http://www.irs.gov/app/pub-78/

[/quote]

This is my point. He has a funny picture of him on a podium in Las Vegas, but does not show anybody else in the lecture hall. Claims he hands out promotional literature to educators. Where are they?
He may be subject to IRS huge back taxes on the loot over the years?


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N5NA on May 26, 2011, 08:57:45 AM
Search for "THE RADIO CLUB OF JHS 22 NYC INC."

That must be it.

73, Alan N5NA


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: K1LEM on May 26, 2011, 12:33:52 PM
Search for "THE RADIO CLUB OF JHS 22 NYC INC."

That must be it.

73, Alan N5NA

He is no longer a teacher at that school. How do you incorporate a club with you as CEO and connect it with a public school, you no longer teach at? Isn't that a little odd?

http://goofyradio.blogspot.com/2011/05/smoking-gun-wb2jkj.html


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on May 26, 2011, 01:52:26 PM
He ripped me off on an Ebay sale and then sent me threatening e-mail. Not a very savory character at all.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: AD6KA on May 27, 2011, 12:25:39 AM
This guy is a cad and a scammer.
More will be revealed.
In this photo he is announcing he will be speaking at a "Teachers Conference"
in July 2011 at "The Las Vegas Plaza Hotel"
(Check out the home made plywood sign on the podium!)
http://goofyradio.blogspot.com/2011/05/wb2jkj-and-las-vegas-plaza-hotel.html

Hmmmm.....BUT according to the local Las Vegas TV station,
the Las Vegas Plaza Hotel closed for renovations November 2010
....for a YEAR AND A HALF.....opening MAY 2012.
  ;D
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13146915/las-vegas-plaza-hotel-to-close-for-renovations

He refuses to list organizations and schools he helps, yearly revenue and expenses,
any of that. How can he keep his 501(c)(3) tax exempt contributions status?

I think this guy is headed for a big fall.....like prison!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: K1LEM on May 27, 2011, 05:58:18 AM

Hmmmm.....BUT according to the local Las Vegas TV station,
the Las Vegas Plaza Hotel closed for renovations November 2010
....for a YEAR AND A HALF.....opening MAY 2012.
  ;D
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13146915/las-vegas-plaza-hotel-to-close-for-renovations

He refuses to list organizations and schools he helps, yearly revenue and expenses,
any of that. How can he keep his 501(c)(3) tax exempt contributions status?

I think this guy is headed for a big fall.....like prison!
[/quote]

This is like a bad movie, he has posted that is where he will convince educators to bring amateur radio to kids. I have done a few searchs on web and best testimont was on QRZ way back in 2002 ! Just think that was the canary dead in the mine and Joey is still scamming. Bet he has quite an Ebay account.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on May 27, 2011, 09:35:11 AM
Is he still putting out those "broadcasts" on 40m in the morning?


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: W0BTU on May 30, 2011, 02:54:19 PM
I was curious after years of seeing Joey, WB2JKJ ads for hand me down radio gear ostensibly to generate amateur radio in public schools.

Thank you for this. I have never seen anyone say what's being said here, but I came to this conclusion many years ago. I'm sure many others have, too; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: K1LEM on May 30, 2011, 03:57:09 PM
I was curious after years of seeing Joey, WB2JKJ ads for hand me down radio gear ostensibly to generate amateur radio in public schools.

Thank you for this. I have never seen anyone say what's being said here, but I came to this conclusion many years ago. I'm sure many others have, too; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
>:(

Just follow the trail. He has had a booming trade on Ebay, yet he is no longer a teacher. The PS 22 school does not know who he is. Even if they did, he travels to Las Vegas and stays at a hotel that is closed? Well, how much more smoke needs to get in your eyes?


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KP2Z on May 31, 2011, 02:02:24 PM
I just sent an email to the ARRL ad department asking them to check out the information on this tread. ARRL is still running his ads as of June 2011. 

Tony  KP2Z


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: K0OD on May 31, 2011, 03:32:32 PM
"I just sent an email to the ARRL ad department asking them to check out the information on this tread. ARRL is still running his ads as of June 2011. "

You're wasting your time. How long has this gone on, 20 years? 30 Years? More? Anyone have a starting date for this?


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: WU0R on June 01, 2011, 08:31:20 AM
I don't bother with him or any other scammers.  He also makes copies of copy right manuals and sells them.  That is another story for another day.

I know enough new ops and disadvantaged ops should I choose to help out, can do so locally. I don't need a middle man to do it, skimming the top as he goes.  I never felt that whole operation of Joey's was quite legit.  Doesn't smell right, probably isn't.

Regarding IRS laws, etc., the majority of the populace in this country (well over 50% documented) don't even pay taxes.  One more reason for a flat tax I suppose.

Just like the lids on 14.275, that nonsense won't end until someone passes on, then likely, someone else will take up the activity.  It has been around for decades with little to no enforcement.  Why should JKJ be any different.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on June 07, 2011, 04:58:16 PM
I bought a TS-820S from him. He advertised it as in beautiful condition without a spec of dust on it. The only problem was that the digital frequency display was intermittent. It came with the special dust cover, the listing said.


If you recall those rigs had both the older type mechanical frequency display and also newer type of digital display. It was a crossover rig.


The radio arrived without the dust cover. There was a small dent on the edge of the front panel. The digital display wasn't intermittent, it never worked at all. When turning the main tuning dial the mechanical frequency counter did not increment either. The tuning capacitor was not being turned due to a problem with the complicated train of gears used in this rig - a job for a watch maker and way beyond what I could get into. In fact the radio hissed but never picked up a single station because it was stuck on one frequency.


Joey refused to take it back even though he had been given the rig in the first place and had not disclosed the major problem with the radio. I paid top price for an advertised superb radio. I contacted Paypal and asked for a reduction in price as the rig was not worth much in it's condition. I would rather have sent the radio back completely.I got an e-mail from Joey saying that I would be getting a refund on part of my purchase price but he was only toying with me because that same day I got an e-mail from Paypal rejecting my request for a part refund.  After that I received a succession of taunting, threatening and abusive e-mails from Joey. I read one of the e-mails to other hams who seemed to think that he was somewhat unhinged. I certainly wouldn't want him near any of my children. A thoroughly unpleasant character.


Mark N1UK



Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: WY3X on June 07, 2011, 06:06:01 PM
I met the guy once upon a time. He was a "featured guest" at our hamfest, invited by our club president, also a teacher. He reminded me of a town drunk who passed away a number of years ago- used to stand out in the highway and direct imaginary traffic. The drunk had been something 50~60 years prior- a military aviator of some importance, having flown Pacific missions in WWII. Heck of a nice guy, but one day his life went downhill. We found the guy dead in his home one day about 15 years ago (I worked for the local fire department), he had been there for a number of days. Even his own son (when we located him), refused to come and claim the body. This catbird used to come by the fire department and drink coffee with us and talk about the old days. Sometimes he'd take a stick with string on the end, tie it to the handle of a cup of coffee, and pull the coffee off and onto the floor. Other times, he'd bring a photo album and show us the most amazing photos. Yep- Joe reminds me of that guy.... He must have really been something back in the day, but not really "all there" today. It happens to some of the best of us when we age beyond our prime. I wish him the best- he was something 20 years ago.

73, -WY3X


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KE4DRN on June 08, 2011, 04:24:33 PM
hi

I remember reading that the station was no longer
active at JHS 22.

I got an older CDE rotor and control box from him on Ebay
and it worked and price was right.

A few years ago I made an info request from IRS on the charity
and four months later I got a letter that nothing has been filed.

Depending on how much money you raise then you have to file
paperwork.

The Charity shows up on IRS website,
search NY for THE RADIO CLUB OF JHS 22

73 james


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: W0RSB on June 08, 2011, 04:55:04 PM
Try for yourself.....http://www.irs.gov/app/pub-78/

He shows up in a search for folks who file "Form 990-N (e-Postcard) Information"


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on June 21, 2011, 07:57:25 PM
Ive heard of his scams for 20 plus years and tired of it. I personally have a ham bud that was very good friend of his and knew of his B.S. Scam in the name and sake of children. Anyone who does such a thing is nothing but a piece of.....

Over all the years I'm sure we've had discussions about why we don't hear enough kids involved in ham radio any longer. With all the donations being made to these supposed school Ham Radio programs why aren't we hearing more schools active in ham radio if they were being supplied all his donations?

If you listen to his nets In the mornings ,or when ever they take place i can't help wondering the reason for all the yelling and obnoxious behavior. Thought I was listening to some teen joker on a microphone and this guy is on our educational system. He's a freaking joke!

Let me not forget that after some years I had unfortunately run into him on 2m ssb. The issue was he was trying to bring his obnoxious rag chew on a call frequency. By Gentlemen Band Plan Agreements and proper operating procedure especially due to the fact it was on such a stringent room for lack of poor operating procedures I asked kindly would he please move about 5 KHz plus or minus so we can listen for any weak signal calls. This was too difficult for him and he turned into this spoiled nasty little obnoxious adolescent self. Oh well! Lost all respect after that!

As for all his little followers that feel the need to follow in his foot steps maybe because it makes them feel cool and a part of his charade. I hope they wake up some day and stop feeding into his game because it's become a crying shame.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: WU0R on June 25, 2011, 10:40:27 AM
I never understoof how JKJ could sell equipment manuals for profit when the bulk are copy righted.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on June 26, 2011, 05:02:06 PM
Good question!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: WU0R on June 28, 2011, 10:41:18 AM
Donations I have seen to schools usually are to get them a station or station equipment so they can form a radio club...didn't know they set up show to re-sell "donated" equipment to make money...didn't know they were like Goodwill Stores....



Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KI4AX on June 29, 2011, 09:53:20 AM
I have always advocated donating equipment for school clubs as a way to get kids interested in Amateur Radio, but I would never advocate a scam. There is always a "bad apple" in the bunch. I'm unemployed and hit hard by the recession and I could really use a more modern HF rig and some all mode Vhf and Uhf stuff but, I would never resort to scamming. Sometimes I think this is why some people are poor...because they are too honest; I think I suffer from this also.

Its too bad that the rules for Amateur Radio do not include something to cover ethics.

I would be more than happy accept any equipment donations for needy ham operators, and pass anything beyond one rig for my station on to high schools, boy scouts, girl scouts and any other youth club or organization that I can get interested in ham radio. My son is a Rotary member and they have connections to all kinds of youth organizations etc. Perhaps we could get them involved in some capacity?

Perhaps other ham operators, fortunate enough to have more equipment than they know what to do with and the means to purchase even more equipment than they know what to do with, should do this very thing....donate some station equipment to some youth groups and high schools for club stations in your area. If you want to get young people involved and interested in ham radio this would be a way to do it. Just be careful that you stipulate that the stuff is to be donated somewhere else if it is not needed or used. Otherwise the stuff will wind up on eBay. I would never do that but I'm sure others would.

Just some thoughts.....

Dan KI4AX


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on June 29, 2011, 11:17:14 PM
I'm sorry Dan but this is not the right time or forum for you to be soliciting for you donations to kids and schools charity. I for one would have to donate myself rather than give to you to donate.

Plus! The equipment should never wind up on EBay period!

Just my thoughts!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KI4AX on June 30, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
I don't really expect anyone to donate to me anyway... but hey, if they want to send it I guess I would take it. I guarantee the stuff would be put to better use than what WB2JKJ is doing with it. I agree with your comment about the stuff should not be showing up on eBay but unfortunately that is the way things are going these days. I was appalled to see stuff that was donated to the local library and museum show up on eBay but that's what they do with extra, surplus and unwanted items. I guess they use the proceeds to subsidise their operating budgets.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 03, 2011, 07:24:57 AM
Agreed Dan!

Can't see anything go to waste but there are other clubs that may have young Hams and elderly that may be financially unfortunate that may need the equipment. There are many out there and the way you find out if they fit this category is through the community that knows.

Now if someone wants to justify selling off equipment to subsidize cost that's what tax credit is for.

So instead of selling it off look to the community for help in finding these people and double check through multiple references so that no one individual will keep secret their manipulative intentions if any. Everyone will know if that's the case. That's one way of isolating the wicked!

Maybe catalog each equipment donated so that the person its donated to can contact the donate'er with a......thank you.

Just some suggestions and if I have anything I'll keep you in mind if you update your donation process. Other than that if an organization is reluctant to possibly incorporate a better system than maybe they have now then they may have negative WB2JKJ intentions!

That's it! A new term for a crooked, manipulative, thieving in kids names organization will now be known as the.......

WB2JKJ SYNDROME!!!!!!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on July 03, 2011, 04:13:36 PM
..and I suppose if you buy a rig for an inflated price on Ebay and you find out that it is a piece of junk then you have been WB2JKL'ed


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 03, 2011, 04:53:10 PM
I bought a TS-820S from him. He advertised it as in beautiful condition without a spec of dust on it. The only problem was that the digital frequency display was intermittent. It came with the special dust cover, the listing said.


If you recall those rigs had both the older type mechanical frequency display and also newer type of digital display. It was a crossover rig.


The radio arrived without the dust cover. There was a small dent on the edge of the front panel. The digital display wasn't intermittent, it never worked at all. When turning the main tuning dial the mechanical frequency counter did not increment either. The tuning capacitor was not being turned due to a problem with the complicated train of gears used in this rig - a job for a watch maker and way beyond what I could get into. In fact the radio hissed but never picked up a single station because it was stuck on one frequency.


Joey refused to take it back even though he had been given the rig in the first place and had not disclosed the major problem with the radio. I paid top price for an advertised superb radio. I contacted Paypal and asked for a reduction in price as the rig was not worth much in it's condition. I would rather have sent the radio back completely.I got an e-mail from Joey saying that I would be getting a refund on part of my purchase price but he was only toying with me because that same day I got an e-mail from Paypal rejecting my request for a part refund.  After that I received a succession of taunting, threatening and abusive e-mails from Joey. I read one of the e-mails to other hams who seemed to think that he was somewhat unhinged. I certainly wouldn't want him near any of my children. A thoroughly unpleasant character.


Mark N1UK



LOL! I'd say If you've been screwed or anyone else like that by him you've been WB2JKJ'ed.

What a scumbag he is!!!!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: G3RZP on July 05, 2011, 08:21:11 AM
Back in 1997, he got the Special Achievement Award at Dayton.

I don't know what for, though.....


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 05, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
Probably because the presentor's were his cronies and it was to help his crooked business.
 :-\
Other possibility is the ones that gave it to him truely are oblivious to his shananogons. 

Unfortunately 20 years ago the Internet didn't exist so that the mass's could be notified of his actions is why he's gotten away with it for so long. Not so easy today!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: G3RZP on July 05, 2011, 11:25:22 AM
It could have been an award for the bare faced cheek exhibited....


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2OAM on July 07, 2011, 08:40:57 PM
          In 1994, I was at the Dayton Hamvention and saw his call sign license plate in the tailgating area. It was affixed to the rear of a brand new, top of the line Jaguar. On a teachers salary??????

N2oam


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 07, 2011, 10:08:52 PM
Hmmm! Makes sense now hah?

I think he drives a Porche or Corvette now.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on July 08, 2011, 05:23:34 AM
Quote
Unfortunately 20 years ago the Internet didn't exist so that the mass's could be notified of his actions is why he's gotten away with it for so long. Not so easy today!


Unfortunately he is still getting away with it. A lifetime of leeching off other people's goodwill. I hope they shut him down one day.


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 08, 2011, 03:01:57 PM
Unfortunitly some day might be too late. It's up to the community to say enough is enough by just easily not attending his NET Scherade and donating to his unjust cause.

Best you can do is spread the word like the Aids epidemic!



Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KG4YMC on July 10, 2011, 09:31:38 PM
just saw this, if this is the same ad that has been running in cq , forever, then seems they are not in any hurry to quit getting his ad money ? kg4ymc :'(


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 12, 2011, 06:25:51 AM
As much as I hate to say it but they gotta know about him after all these years. How could someone not question the obvious after all these years.

Some that I have spoken to that know him or knew him their attitude was.... "well if he can get away with it good for him". WHAT!

I'm game for this but not at expense of children. Oh, and if you entertain this fool in his moronic NET after reading this or being told this then your a moron also. All your doing is promoting his actions more than any ad in any paper back.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: G3RZP on July 12, 2011, 07:48:26 AM
Isn't he sailing a bit close to the wind with the IRS?


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: K9YLI on July 12, 2011, 07:59:45 AM
 I counted the words in the CQ ad  once.  sems to me it was  several hundred dollars a month.. ( i will have to re-count.)
I have CQs back to the 60's.
seems like a very large expense,,, 
Makes  CQ  a lot of money,,  unless its  charity on their part. ??



Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KG4YMC on July 12, 2011, 12:22:54 PM
hey just for yuk, anybody from cq want to respond?  kg4ymc


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 12, 2011, 07:34:03 PM
I counted the words in the CQ ad  once.  sems to me it was  several hundred dollars a month.. ( i will have to re-count.)
I have CQs back to the 60's.
seems like a very large expense,,,  
Makes  CQ  a lot of money,,  unless its  charity on their part. ??



DAMN! Thats what it cost a month? Sheesh!

Wonder how well JKJ is making out a month. Certainly not doing it on teachers salary all those years. In the 60's, 70's and 80's wasn't chump change and it still isn't.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KG4YMC on July 12, 2011, 07:44:37 PM
Hi, guys , just an idea on this scamer, since mike wallace and 60 minutes, isn't on,( at least I don't think so anymore, why not have " Matt" and Big moma Sona < from operation repo, pick up his jag  porsch or whatever, make good  shown on tue tv. ;Dkg4ymc


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 13, 2011, 05:38:48 AM
LOL!

Actually might be entertaining! He has a big mouth on the air so I'm curious if he has one off the air.

Plus, I know he has a computer and I know he must have either heard about this post or even read it. You would think he would post at least something to clear his name or at least defend it a little. Even though he doesn't have to but just say'ing!

I know I'd have to at least reply once! After that what ever!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: WU0R on July 13, 2011, 06:24:22 AM
Personally, I have donated, helped pay for equipment for disabled or down on their luck new ops, and to me, that is much more rewarding to tell someone, "you're welcome".  I never did understand JKJ's operation from a school, supposedly trying to help kids get exposed to amateur radio, yet making big bucks off folks along with selling copyrighted manuals, and doubtful he is paying taxes on any of it.

But, hopefully, something will change someday to thwart this kind of activity...

I won't hold my breath.... ???


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: AC4RD on July 13, 2011, 09:14:06 AM
Yesterday I found the official website of JHS #33 of NYC.  Didn't see anything on it about a student ham-radio club, though it was a pretty feeble attempt at a website, very little of interest IMO.  But I used the "contact us" page to ask if they had a student ham-radio club and if John Fairclough was associated with it.   Haven't heard anything from them yet.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 13, 2011, 01:33:47 PM
Yesterday I found the official website of JHS #33 of NYC.  Didn't see anything on it about a student ham-radio club, though it was a pretty feeble attempt at a website, very little of interest IMO.  But I used the "contact us" page to ask if they had a student ham-radio club and if John Fairclough was associated with it.   Haven't heard anything from them yet.

And you probably won't!

You would think after all these years the site would change. Like having a page showing all the wonderful childrens lives he's changed with all those donations or at least a list of schools they went to. Yeah right!








Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 13, 2011, 01:37:42 PM
Personally, I have donated, helped pay for equipment for disabled or down on their luck new ops, and to me, that is much more rewarding to tell someone, "you're welcome".  I never did understand JKJ's operation from a school, supposedly trying to help kids get exposed to amateur radio, yet making big bucks off folks along with selling copyrighted manuals, and doubtful he is paying taxes on any of it.

But, hopefully, something will change someday to thwart this kind of activity...

I won't hold my breath.... ???

I have done the same as you even sending equipment as far as Puerto Rico and was happy to do so.

Smart man not holding your breath cause you would turn blue purple!

Really best thing to do is put the word out so no one else gets ripped off.

73!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: W0BTU on July 14, 2011, 12:05:57 PM
Looks to me like WB2JKJ has a large advertisement in this month's QST.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KB1TXK on July 14, 2011, 03:07:57 PM
Looks to me like WB2JKJ has a large advertisement in this month's QST.

I see his ads in every issue of both CQ and QST, constantly. Its pretty sad they let him place ads, if he's actually reselling the donated radios.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 14, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
Looks to me like WB2JKJ has a large advertisement in this month's QST.

Hmmm! Wonder if he's either making more or needs to make more money. Either that or it's a dig to this thread and if it is what a.................!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 14, 2011, 04:47:17 PM

I see his ads in every issue of both CQ and QST, constantly. Its pretty sad they let him place ads, if he's actually reselling the donated radios.

I agree but guess that's what money and greed does. I hate to say!

Good thing is how we realize it and can communicate about it world better than in the past. Thanks to the World Wide Web!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: AD6KA on July 14, 2011, 04:53:10 PM
Here is a link their online newsletter "Apple Slices".
http://www.n4gvk.net/appleslices/

It's a very strange hodgepodge of disjointed, meandering blather
about life in NYC, club member's birthdays, photos of member's shacks,
shameless plugs for the ham manual sales, etc.etc. A little about the upcoming
Las Vegas Teachers Convention appearance (inclusing an obviously "Photo Shopped"
pic) of the now closed Plaza Hotel where the meeting will allegedly be held.

I read 12 issues of this newsletter and found ONE vague reference
to a school that had actually been helped.
And a photo with kids holding
up signs saying "Thanks for the VFO".
Wow, how generous.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KB1TXK on July 14, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
Here is a link their online newsletter "Apple Slices".
http://www.n4gvk.net/appleslices/

It's a very strange hodgepodge of disjointed, meandering blather
about life in NYC, club member's birthdays, photos of member's shacks,
shameless plugs for the ham manual sales, etc.etc. A little about the upcoming
Las Vegas Teachers Convention appearance (inclusing an obviously "Photo Shopped"
pic) of the now closed Plaza Hotel where the meeting will allegedly be held.

I read 12 issues of this newsletter and found ONE vague reference
to a school that had actually been helped.
And a photo with kids holding
up signs saying "Thanks for the VFO".
Wow, how generous.

Judging by the hair/clothing styles of those teenagers...those pics are from the mid-to-late 90's.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 14, 2011, 06:39:28 PM
Here is a link their online newsletter "Apple Slices".
http://www.n4gvk.net/appleslices/

It's a very strange hodgepodge of disjointed, meandering blather
about life in NYC, club member's birthdays, photos of member's shacks,
shameless plugs for the ham manual sales, etc.etc. A little about the upcoming
Las Vegas Teachers Convention appearance (inclusing an obviously "Photo Shopped"
pic) of the now closed Plaza Hotel where the meeting will allegedly be held.

I read 12 issues of this newsletter and found ONE vague reference
to a school that had actually been helped.
And a photo with kids holding
up signs saying "Thanks for the VFO".
Wow, how generous.

This thread started May.21 and in all his News Letters as of January it was only June did he post at least one pic of a class room in Ham session. Then a few others in a July News Letter. I think I mentioned and maybe others before "where were photos of kids in class shown"?

Think he's reading this thread? Sure he is!

Most importantly still remains is like you mentioned....there's only one photo showing a thank you for a old vintage VFO. Where are all the others?

I'm sure maybe now some more will pop up!

For a site supposed to be dedicated to children education and Ham gear donated to them there sure is a lot of other stuff that should be on a personal Ham site. People just love to show up on someone elses web site cause it makes them feel popular and part of the self proclaimed elite "22crew". Guess that's one way to get a following. If you listen in you even have operators trying to act as arrogant and obnoxious as JKJ when clearly they wouldn't on a normal basis.

22 crew? Sounds like a High School who are the cool kids club. Agh!

I don't know guys! If you don't see the wool being pulled over you guys and still donate without demands that proof be given by now shame on you.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 14, 2011, 06:51:52 PM
Quote KB1TXK:

"Judging by the hair/clothing styles of those teenagers...those pics are from the mid-to-late 90's."

Take a look at the computer! There's absolutely no way that picture is even current within 11 years. That's like an old Apple computer with the old green monitor and that's in a News Letter dated June. 5, 2011. Hah!

What a bunch of bull!!!!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: AD6KA on July 14, 2011, 10:26:22 PM
Quote
there's only one photo showing a thank you for a old vintage VFO
And I find it interesting that the school club that that vintage
VFO was "donated" to was a private religious school in a very upscale area.
(Coral Gables, FL)
I don't have the specific tuition for that particular school,
but private schools ain't cheap.
Certainly there are more pressing needs in public schools?

Number of households with income > $200k:
Coral Gables: 21%
Florida: 3%
Estimated median house or condo value in 2009:
Coral Gables: $602,445
Florida: $182,400
Estimated median household income in 2009:
Coral Gables: $82,194
Florida: $44,736

http://www.city-data.com/income/income-Coral-Gables-Florida.html#ixzz1S9FDUVYG
http://www.city-data.com/city/Coral-Gables-Florida.html


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on July 15, 2011, 03:20:58 PM
I will have to dig back and see if I can find and post the taunting and threatening e-mails that he sent to me after selling me the "mint" radio on ebay. All I wanted was to return the broken radio that I received. After all he was given the radio in the first place.


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on July 16, 2011, 01:32:18 AM
Please Please do!!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on August 20, 2011, 12:14:28 PM
I see he is still selling all his goodies on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150651291464&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I guess this isn't going into a school station...probably going into his pocket instead.


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: HS0ZIB on August 22, 2011, 02:46:55 AM
Playing devil's advocate a bit here:

If this guy has such a bad reputation etc, why does he have a 100% positive feedback reputation on Ebay?

Simon


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on August 22, 2011, 03:34:29 AM
He certainly didn't used to. There were quite a few complaints. I am not sure how he got it cleaned up


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on August 23, 2011, 07:55:06 PM
Playing devil's advocate a bit here:

If this guy has such a bad reputation etc, why does he have a 100% positive feedback reputation on Ebay?

Simon

Simon,

Don't let that fool you. Plus! We didn't say he was ripping people off on EBAY. The products he's selling on EBAY is more likely the donated gear that's supposed to go to the so called ham programs in schools nation wide. At least in the NYC area but I can tell you for sure it's not. Neither is the money generated from the EBAY sales.

Trust us! This guy has been doing it for years and now with the Internet people are able to get the word out and discuss it with greater exposure. To bad it wasn't sooner when the big ham radio boom was happening 20 and 30 years ago.

73!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: WV4I on October 22, 2011, 09:02:03 PM
Several years go, I bought a Dentron MT-3000A tuner from this character on Ebay. It arrived okay and was in mint condition as advertised. In hindsight, it does not make sense to me why someone would donate a mint condition MT-3000A to this guy.

What else was odd about this deal however is that when I asked for his street address, he went ballistic with email replies, asking me what is your problem, etc.. Irrational response to say the least.

To say that his whole operation does not make sense, would be understatement.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on October 24, 2011, 01:56:34 PM
Several years go, I bought a Dentron MT-3000A tuner from this character on Ebay. It arrived okay and was in mint condition as advertised. In hindsight, it does not make sense to me why someone would donate a mint condition MT-3000A to this guy.

What else was odd about this deal however is that when I asked for his street address, he went ballistic with email replies, asking me what is your problem, etc.. Irrational response to say the least.

To say that his whole operation does not make sense, would be understatement.

Acting irrational sounds like him!

That was my experience when I simply asked if he could move his already long QSO just 5KHz up from the 144.200 SSB call frequency. "He acted not" like a influential educational teaching mature adult but more like a disgruntle C.B.'er.

Guy makes me sick and even more sick on his obnoxious 40m Apple net.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KE4DRN on August 31, 2012, 07:34:57 PM
IRS Info Below from 2008 postcard filed

Tax Period:
2008 (08/01/2008 - 07/31/2009)
Employer Identification Number (EIN):
13-3308442
Legal Name:
THE RADIO CLUB OF JHS 22 NYC INC
Mailing Address:
po box 1952
new york, NY 10002
United States
Doing Business As:
Gross receipts not greater than:
$25,000
Organization has terminated:
No
Principal Officer's Name and Address:
joe fairclough
91 shore rd
glen cove, NY 11542
United States


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KK4IKO on October 18, 2012, 04:19:23 AM
The BBB has a rating system for charities, and one of the criteria for a good charity is how much of the received income actually goes to do the work listed.  It's strange he's not on their rather extensive list, but his website is rather loud and in your face.  I guess the IRS is too busy to investigate this guy.

Bruce, KK4IKO


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KK4IKO on October 18, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
I'm retired, so I had the time to do some research on WB2JKJ, here's what I found, or rather didn't find.

While the EIN is apparently valid for tax purposes, the organization is NOT listed on the IRS Part 78 database, which was updated a week ago. I searched by name, location, and EIN for the entire state of New York. (over 40,000 entries).  It makes me wonder if the tax exemptions he issues are LEGAL.

Likewise, the Better Business Bureau has NO listing, either: and THEY checked by organization name, phone number and mailing address.

You can make up your own mind, but it would appear that there is considerable flying below the radar going on here.  

Having said that, I believe the organization is real, and may actually be doing something worthwhile, but I can think of only 1 reason why it's not listed with the IRS as a valid charity.

Bruce, KK4IKO





Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N2RRA on October 18, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
I'm retired, so I had the time to do some research on WB2JKJ, here's what I found, or rather didn't find.

While the EIN is apparently valid for tax purposes, the organization is NOT listed on the IRS Part 78 database, which was updated a week ago. I searched by name, location, and EIN for the entire state of New York. (over 40,000 entries).  It makes me wonder if the tax exemptions he issues are LEGAL.

Likewise, the Better Business Bureau has NO listing, either: and THEY checked by organization name, phone number and mailing address.

You can make up your own mind, but it would appear that there is considerable flying below the radar going on here.  

Having said that, I believe the organization is real, and may actually be doing something worthwhile, but I can think of only 1 reason why it's not listed with the IRS as a valid charity.

Bruce, KK4IKO





There you have it!

My dissaproval of his confrontational actions with him has made me really disgusted with this guy and when you listen to how loud and obnoxious his NETS are (Much like his website as you mentioned) I wouldn't want my kid mimicking him. He'd get his ass kicked in the street.

I appreciate your investigative pursuit for the truth. It lends credibility to what many of us have been saying and know about this guy despite his claims of his long running charity that glow with his own raved success's which I know are highly exaggerated and false.  

I think those that continue too associate with him and attend his NETS are those that like his attention and activity while they have their morning coffee for entertainment. I'd wish they reevaluate who their associating them selves with and the type of message their sending along which are enabling his actions.

This guy is as bad as a corrupt politician sinking the American people with false hopes ,dreams, and miss used tax money!!

73!


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KK4IKO on October 19, 2012, 03:50:39 PM
Addendum to my above post.

The part 78 I referred to, is actually Publication 78.  I talked to a tax attorney and a tax accountant, and neither could say what the exact purpose of that Pub. 78 is, or, that they even heard of it.  It is possible that if a tax-exempt organization shows less than a certain amount of income, it won't be on the list.  I'm not able to confirm that right now.

The e-postcard shown by KE4DRN is a short tax return form that tax-exempt organizations can use if their claimed income is less than $25,000. 

My own thought is this:  if a charitable entity is not listed on Pub. 78, or is not in the BBB database, I'm not donating to them, unless I happen to know them personally.

If there are any of you out there who have experience in 501c(3) tax matters, please feel free to enlighten us.

Bruce, KK4IKO



Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N4CVX on April 11, 2014, 08:40:05 AM
I'm sure glad I found this thread and all the info here.  I was just about to donate a large amount of gear to his Charity.  What made me suspicious was the reply to my email where he replied that "he would be in my area very soon".  COnsidering I live in the Nashville area and he is supposed to be in NYC .. well, I thought I would do some checking.  This fellow reminds me of a ham on the island of Anguilla -- VP2EZ (Jerry White AKA "Chalky White")  He maintained that he was blind, received ludicrous amounts of "helping donations, books for the Blind and so forth.  Yet when I arrived on Anguilla in 1985 I discovered that he drove a motor scooter all over the island, had a VW Van which he drove, was not blind but somewhat "vision impaired".  Anyway, I lived in VP2E land for some 10 years doing work for the Government and had a number of contacts with him and his wife.  To make a long story short, one of the big contest stations at the other end of the island complained about him and another expat ham, VP2ESL (a Swiss Guy) and VP2EZ was ejected from the island as Persona non Grata.  All in all, Chalky was a charming (most of the times) fellow very typical of a white man gone native in the island.  ANyway, after reviewing this whole thread about WB2JKJ I am inclined to believe what a number of people say about him and his efforts.  As for me, I am going to donate my gear to the local ham club which I know for a fact is a Tax Exempt status organization.  I don't have a whole lot of time on this Earth, now, but am making every effort to be charitable and accepting that some folks just manage to get rewarded by using other people.  Their loss.  73s, Dave (N4CVX, ex-DA1BB, ex-VP2EHF)   SK


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KE4DRN on April 15, 2014, 09:42:06 PM
hi,

Back in 2012 I sent a fax letter to the Principal, Edgar Lin, of JHS 22
requesting information about the radio club but never received a reply.

The charity must make several IRS tax forms available for public inspection or copying.
Anyone can request them, getting them is another thing!

http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Public-Disclosure-and-Availability-of-Exempt-Organizations-Returns-and-Applications:-Documents-Subject-to-Public-Disclosure

73 james


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KI6OS on April 19, 2014, 04:20:47 PM
I read with much interest all of the threads and comments.  Well, I'd like to donate to them, as I don't know in my area (CA) which charity to donate old ham stuff to.  Does anyone have any ideas?  Thanks a lot.

73, Karen


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KA5IPF on April 19, 2014, 09:45:57 PM
The safe answer for donation is your local ham club that you are a member of. I've never seen a club yet that doesn't need a few dollars and donated equipment is easily sold and proceeds put in the treasury.

I have been skeptical on the WB2JKJ deal for years.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KE4DRN on April 22, 2014, 04:44:46 PM
hi,

Your local school district may have an active club,
the community college and university is also an option for
donating equipment and my get you the tax deduction.

73 james


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N8YX on April 24, 2014, 09:45:38 AM
One of my purchases from this guy a few years back turned out to have been sent to the wrong buyer - and that buyer's radio was shipped with an empty vodka bottle in the box.

Recently, my friend Jan was the recipient of a "mint" radio which arrived in bad shape as the result of a poor packing job.

Joe should be attending Dayton, if anyone wants to stop by and say hi to him.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KE7TMA on April 25, 2014, 12:38:29 AM
One of my purchases from this guy a few years back turned out to have been sent to the wrong buyer - and that buyer's radio was shipped with an empty vodka bottle in the box.

Recently, my friend Jan was the recipient of a "mint" radio which arrived in bad shape as the result of a poor packing job.

Joe should be attending Dayton, if anyone wants to stop by and say hi to him.

We can all meet him at the Heathkit booth eh?

My view on this is that most charities are some kind of scam.  People like to give to charity in order to inflate their egos.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KU7PDX on April 25, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
Well, just by chance I happened to purchase a NUE-PSK Digital Modem from Joe via eBay. The auction ended last Friday evening and I paid immediately - that night I received an email from Joe stating it would be shipped USPS. To my surprise, I received an email Saturday stating that it was on its way and I received the box this morning - exactly as described and packaged extremely well. From a seller perspective, he seems to be legit and I don't hesitate to give him a positive review.

With that said, I can't honestly say I would make a donation to his organization. No info on GuideStar or the New York Secretary of State business database is an immediate red-flag if one expects to make a "tax-deductable" donation. Frequently though, businesses will act as a broker between a donor and charity - like when I donated my car to the state humane society - my car was picked up and auctioned by a towing company, then the cash was given to the humane society and I then received a tax deduction letter from the humane society for the auction price. Joe's operation could be extremely similar to this type of operation.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: NO2A on April 25, 2014, 03:07:33 PM
Always be cautious of any business that doesn`t use or have a physical street address. For quite some time a well respected photography magazine was advertising an online store from NY city. This ad had no street address. They would advertise a low price,too good to be true. People would place orders from them,only to be told sorry,that price is no longer offered. The complaints came by the dozen. Anyone calling their number were simply put on hold,that is if they could get though on the phone. The gov`t actually put some of these places out of business. Also beware of any business run from NY city. Unless they have a good reputation. It`s time we all started sending WB2JKJ a "donation" of an emty box with a brick in it. Then maybe he`d get the messege.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N7BMW on April 25, 2014, 03:44:47 PM
It`s time we all started sending WB2JKJ a "donation" of an emty box with a brick in it. Then maybe he`d get the messege.

You really want to spend the money to send bricks?  Send something dead and stinky.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KE4DRN on April 25, 2014, 04:40:02 PM
Wonder if ARRL could get more info about his charity, he is an advertiser in QST.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: WA9UAA on April 26, 2014, 07:35:40 AM
Wonder if ARRL could get more info about his charity, he is an advertiser in QST.

THIS! ^^^^ Used to be, the ARRL vetted their advertisers fairly well. I'd like to see more of that. 73, Rob


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: W1JKA on April 26, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
Why is anyone wasting time with this WB2JKJ character?, if you are fortunate enough to have ham gear to donate please consider donating or selling your gear and either way let the cash proceeds from such go to a local organization such as the Salvation Army, local food pantry or other where it will do the most good for the most amount of people and not to some niche hobbyist group. Only the delusional within our hobby think they are special when it comes to others truly in need.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: W4QG on April 09, 2016, 05:25:33 PM
He is posting messages on the various websites about Dayton.
Obviously accepting "donations".
Wow.....
Nice to see the link to this thread shows up right under his website on google.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: W7APM on April 11, 2016, 03:02:03 PM
Ripped me off on a sale of tubes. Promised to make it right a number of times and after a year or so when I called him on it he went on a name calling tirade. I hope he gets what he deserves

KL7AM


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1UK on April 12, 2016, 08:16:43 PM
Yes he ripped me off on a radio purchase as well and then threatened me with a tirade of abuse.

I am surprised that he has been allowed to keep his scam going for so long. I heard that he used to drive a Jaguar so I guess the scam business was pretty good to him.


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N3AIS on February 15, 2017, 07:54:28 AM
Wow - this guy goes way back.  A bit too far back.  I checked into Joe's WB2JKJ Morning 40m net, subscribed to his Twitter account, and emailed him in the interest of the subject of getting youth into the hobby (not equipment-related).  Background: I have made a side hobby of activating and connecting school clubs across Canada and desperately trying to coax them back on the air after so many years of decline.  Thankfully, there is a resurgence of active on-campus clubs coming around - maybe they'll actually key a mike/CW Key soon!

One would think that dozens of young hams are on the air today and active in the "22 Crew" activities, based on what one sees on the web page, emails, etc. Well, when pressed to show any recent activity by any students on the air, I got no answer and told coldly "goodbye" (via Twitter). This is a guy who has minimal Twitter activity as well.

As someone who knows first hand the crisis that our hobby is in regarding new and younger licensees, it is a sad state of affairs to see someone so fraudulently claiming to help solve a big problem in the hobby, only to find out it is just an online scam.

This also underscores another discouraging mindset see in the overall Ham community:  Folks seem to think that 20 years ago was "recent".


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N1FM on February 19, 2017, 10:16:34 AM
Are you kidding me? He advertises in QST... and they accept the ad?


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: KC2QYM on February 24, 2017, 06:43:14 AM
The ARRL is desperate for revenue and will take any advertiser, charlatan or not. Apparently they don't research this JKJ guy as he is a well known alledged fraud. If the ARRL Accepts advertisement revenue from this allegedly fraudulent organization month after month, they are complicit in this deception. It's not like he advertises a product that is a piece of crap...he deceives everyone by soliciting SK equipment on behalf of the kids; lying that this equipment goes to school clubs and that he holds seminars for teachers to help promote amateur radio. I would like to hear from teachers who run or have run school clubs that have benefitted from JKJ's organization over the last ten years to dispel the opinion that he is a phony.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: N0YXB on February 24, 2017, 07:50:07 AM
I would like to hear from teachers who run or have run school clubs that have benefitted from JKJ's organization over the last ten years to dispel the opinion that he is a phony.

I would too. But I'd have to see more than a couple of token radio clubs that have benefitted from his 'program' as I am reminded that a few investors were happy with Bernie Madoff too.


Title: RE: WB2JKJ a scam that Never ENDS
Post by: W4KYR on February 24, 2017, 09:56:54 AM
I have been searching for a particular Heathkit owners manual and it seems that only WB2JKJ has it. But after reading this thread, I absolutely refuse to buy it from him. I'll keep searching around and eventually it will turn up. While there are other sites that have free Heathkit manuals, the owners manual I am looking for isn't one of them.