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Title: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: KC0MMY on May 14, 2012, 04:18:00 PM
I've done shortwave listening off and on again over the past several years.  Since I'm still relatively "new" to the hobby of SWLing, I was wondering if I could get some advice from some fellow and more seasoned listeners. 

What station(s) do you frequently listen to and why?

Aside from the religious stations, which I don't necessarily have anything against, but really don't care to listen to either, are there any interesting foreign stations that broadcast in English? 

For those of you who have been in the hobby for awhile, has the content changed?  Obviously, the news changes on a daily basis, but I guess what I'm trying to ask is:  Is it more interesting, less interesting, or about the same?

Because of the Internet, I would imagine that shortwave listening as a whole has changed a bit since you can listen to some of the stations online.

I live in the Northeast, so what some of you might hear at your location, I may or may not be able to hear at my house.  It's a shame that the Passport to Worldband Radio Book is no longer being published.

Thanks for your time and input!

73 de Andre
KC0MMY


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: EI4GMB on May 15, 2012, 04:57:11 AM
Hi Andre,

I listen to many shortwave stations on my receiver though I have to say since the advent of the internet these are decreasing in number. I find Radio Australia interesting. It has some good English language programming. With so much political turmoil going on in the world shortwave makes for fascinating listening. I would suggest tuning in to the English broadcasts of some of these affected countries.
As I am in Ireland and you are in the north-east of the U.S you might hear stations differently. Hopefully, there will be others along shortly who can offer you more helpful listening advice.
Passport to World Band Radio was indeed a great publication. I bought a few old copies at a radio rally recently. It was great thumbing through the pages. It is badly missed.
Anyway Andre, I hope my post has been of some help. I wish you the best of luck with your shortwave listening.

Kind Regards

Fred EI4GMB


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: W4OP on May 15, 2012, 03:39:09 PM
Monitoring Times still publishes a monthly SW Listener's guide.
I too miss Passport and their reviews.

I enjoy  logging the LW NDB's and also the HiFER stations around 13.5MHz.
Radio Havana Cuba still has their DX/SWL program hosted by Arnie Coro- always interesting.
Then there's the pirate stations below 40M amateur.

Radio Canada International used to broadcast some great local flavor programs in the morning. I haven't listened in a while- my fault.

Dale W4OP


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: KC0MMY on May 15, 2012, 05:20:54 PM
Fred:

Thanks for your comments.  I guess the political turmoil worldwide is one of the reasons I would like to listen ... simply to get another perspective from another part of the world.  I'm sure one has to take some of what's said with a grain of salt, but it would be interesting nonetheless.

Earlier this year I was actually able to hear BBC, though it was targeted towards Africa.  I was still excited to hear it, however.

Dale:

Somehow Monitoring Times sticks into my mind, but for some reason I never investigated it.  Seems like it would be an interesting read.  I may have to subscribe to the .PDF version just to check it out.  It's not that huge of an investment.

I do listen to Radio Havana Cuba from time to tine.  I really like Arnie Coro's DXers Unlimited program that they air on Sunday and, I think, Wednesday nights.  The signal is always strong at my QTH, so I can usually always hear it.

Radio Canada International did have some interesting features on it during the morning hours, but, like you, I haven't listened in awhile ... probably a couple of years. 

Thanks for the input!

73 de Andre
KC0MMY


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: W0BTU on May 15, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
I really like Arnie Coro's DXers Unlimited program that they air on Sunday and, I think, Wednesday nights.

I haven't heard Arnie in some time, but I really liked a lot of what he had to say. Lots of homebrew projects, etc.

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Radio Canada International did have some interesting features on it during the morning hours, but, like you, I haven't listened in awhile ...

When I was in junior high school, the best broadcasting on short wave was Radio Canada International's science program. But that's been gone for years.

Better listen while you can. I think that RCI is going to shut down and go Internet-only.


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: W0BTU on May 15, 2012, 08:36:55 PM
I listen to many shortwave stations on my receiver though I have to say since the advent of the Internet these are decreasing in number.

Yes, indeed. There's a lot less English SW broadcasting now than there used to be, Fred. 45 years ago, there used to be a lot more than there are now.

I don't know about your part of the planet, but I've read (and agree) that there used to be a lot of countries that beamed English broadcasts --with interesting, quality programing--  towards the USA. But not so much any more.

Having said that, I don't listen outside the ham bands much anymore. Maybe I should.


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: W4OP on May 16, 2012, 07:13:20 AM
I well recall as a kid being scared to death listening to the Radio Moscow propaganda sessions and then there was the Moscow Mailbag- I think a lot of those letter were made up in order to forward the Communist agenda of the day- but scarey stuff to an 11 year old, never the less.

Dale W4OP


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: W0BTU on May 16, 2012, 10:05:59 AM
I guess I never heard what you did on Radio Moscow (now the Voice of Russia). We used to listen to it in the late 60's/very early 70's, and we thought all that silly propaganda talk was hilarious.


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: EI4GMB on May 16, 2012, 11:57:07 AM
Better listen while you can. I think that RCI is going to shut down and go Internet-only.

I heard this too. They have cut programming to the bone on RCI. I also used to enjoy the science programme and the CBC News which I found very reliable.
There is quite a lot of propaganda broadcast on shortwave but it makes for fascinating listening all the same.

Fred EI4GMB



Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: KC0MMY on May 19, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
Thanks for all the replies, everyone.

I guess I'm just a little too late in getting into the hobby, eh?

Some of the propaganda would be interesting to listen to. 

My reason for wanting to listen to shortwave, or at least be familiar with where the station are at, is to see what's happening around the world. Obviously, I could do this with the Internet, but as you know, some of that may be sensored.  Then there's always the "what happens when the Internet becomes unreliable."  I really think we have too much dependence on te Internet.  Not to say that the Internet is bad ...

Obviously, listening to features and music from different parts of the world would be kind of cool, too.

I'll definitely check out the Monitoring Times.  Seems like it would be a worthwile magazine to look through. 



Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: EI4GMB on May 19, 2012, 02:33:30 PM
Then there's always the "what happens when the Internet becomes unreliable."  I really think we have too much dependence on te Internet.  Not to say that the Internet is bad ...

I agree. Usually the first thing to go when there is trouble in a country is the internet. You can't beat the radio for international coverage.
Best of luck with your listening.  ;)

Kind Regards

Fred EI4GMB



Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: K8HU on May 20, 2012, 07:51:56 PM
All India Radio (AIR) is quite readable on 11670.0 from 1800Z tll 2245Z.  There are a number of segments in English.



Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: W4HLN on June 01, 2012, 05:53:56 PM
WBCQ 7.490 but only on the weekends! and around 5 pm daily!

http://www.wbcq.com/

Great Music....Shortwave talk.....Funny at times!


Ernie / W4HLN


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: GABRESEVEN on June 04, 2012, 03:46:00 PM
Assuming you have a general coverage receiver, and are interested in utility band listening, try 16540 USB in the marine HF band. It's a Filipino seamans net. I hear it 559 here in Hawaii. And I've heard it the same on 'da Mainland with the same set up I have here...

Where you live would depend on how well you hear it, or if you would at all...

Also try 2998, 4666, 5652, 6532, 8903, 11384, 13300, 17904 and 21985 USB - though the RO is in San Francisco, the transmitters are here in Hawaii, on the island of Molokai sources tell me...

Hearing Southeast Asia is easy from here, it's SWL- DX heaven...

Hope this info helps...

GABRESEVEN


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: NU1O on June 05, 2012, 06:19:50 AM
I well recall as a kid being scared to death listening to the Radio Moscow propaganda sessions and then there was the Moscow Mailbag- I think a lot of those letter were made up in order to forward the Communist agenda of the day- but scarey stuff to an 11 year old, never the less.

Dale W4OP

I used to listen to them at the same age but fear is not the word I'd use to describe the experience.  Oh, sure we all knew a nuclear war was possible, but through MAD we knew the Soviets were not crazy. I do know I hated their country and their system of government, and so did most everybody I went to school with.

I remember listening to Vladimir Posner on the North American service of Radio Moscow.  Hiring him and beaming him to the US was a brilliant move by the Soviets because he grew up in Brooklyn and he spoke perfect English. He also had a knack for making Moscow's actions not appear to be so terrible as he'd always point out something the US had done and he'd deflect the criticism by showing we weren't perfect. Joe Adamov, another RM announcer, was also good because of his well-spoken English.  In the 90's Phil Donahue made Posner a star in the US because he was now seen by millions on TV with Donahue. I really detested Donahue for giving Posner this stage to spread Soviet propaganda.  Ironically, this is also when Posner became famous inside the USSR. He was a virtual unknown inside the Soviet Union because his audience was Americans, not Soviets. Now, however, he was seen on Russian TV as well as American TV.

Now that the Cold War has ended and we have had many Russians move to the US, I must say I find most of the Russians to be very likable. They are also experts at working the system.  This is something they likely learned in the Soviet days when it took a lot of skill to buy scarce products, and to deal with a monolithic bureaucracy.

I rarely listen to SW broadcasts anymore.  I'm too busy chasing the ARRL's Honor Roll award and SW has changed a great deal for the worse in the last 20 years.  The religious broadcasters seem to have taken over the entire spectrum, and many of the big broadcasters have either cut, or altogether eliminated their SW broadcasts. I'm not a fan of all the relay stations, either.  I remember when if you logged China the broadcast came from China.  Now it could come from Canada, West Africa, or even the USA.  When I do listen I like to listen to the domestic radio services of small countries in Africa, Asia, and South America.  Those are the broadcasts I'd concentrate on were I still a very active SWL.  In the tropical regions they can't use long or medium waves due to static levels so they use short wave for domestic broadcasts.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: W1AEX on June 05, 2012, 09:02:51 AM
I well recall as a kid being scared to death listening to the Radio Moscow propaganda sessions and then there was the Moscow Mailbag- I think a lot of those letter were made up in order to forward the Communist agenda of the day- but scarey stuff to an 11 year old, never the less.

Dale W4OP

Yup, as a kid growing up in the 50's and 60's it seemed like those broadcasts from Radio Moscow were coming from an entirely different planet. I can even remember wondering if they might be pulling names out of a phone book to make fake letters for their "Mailbag" series. I was worried that they might use my family's name and feature us in one of their typically treasonous sounding inquiries. "Rob from Connecticut in the USA writes in wondering if it would be possible for his family to visit Moscow to learn more about how he might become a citizen of the Soviet Union." Looking back now, it was pretty funny stuff. I notice that there seem to be very few recordings of the old Radio Moscow broadcasts floating around on the internet. That's kind of a shame as it was an interesting window into the relentless propaganda war of that time. I can still remember the relentless "Russian Wheat Reports" droning on and on. "Congratulations to the workers at Collective 746 for once again exceeding their quota for wheat production this month. Their hard work has made it possible for the Soviet Union to become a world leader in the export of grain to many needy nations."  Of course the reality was that they were importing massive quantities of grain from the U.S. and elsewhere because their farm system was not able to meet the needs of their country.

Those were interesting times.

Rob W1AEX 


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: KL3HY on June 26, 2012, 01:12:37 PM
I guess I never heard what you did on Radio Moscow (now the Voice of Russia). We used to listen to it in the late 60's/very early 70's, and we thought all that silly propaganda talk was hilarious.

In the early 1980s a friend had a old tube SW radio and some wire strung out his window, and we used to listen to Radio Moscow pretty regularly.  We sent in a reception report, but instead of a QSL card we got what can only be described as a propaganda package.  Lots of pamphlets describing the bountiful agricultural/industrial output of the glorious workers' paradise and other garbage.  We loved going through it and thought it was hilarious too.  I think we were about 12 or 13.

Interestingly, what I remember most was that the package had obviously already been opened and rooted through by someone.  Shouldn't have been much of a surprise though at that time.  I was just recently joking with that friend that we should do FOIA requests for copies of our FBI files.   ;D


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: N3WAK on June 28, 2012, 04:23:32 PM
Hi there.  Radio Nederland is going off SW tonight forever, insofar as English language broadcasts are concerned.  Rats!  Their last broadcast from Bonaire is tonight, at 0200 on 6165 mHz.  I'll be there for sure.  Radio Canada International stopped its shortwave broadcasts for good a few days ago.  Radio Sweden, Radio Prague, and Radio Bulgaria have also stopped in the last year or so. 

But Radio Australia is great and very loud in the mornings here, as is Radio Japan (although that's for the time being relayed from Canada), and Radio Espana Exterior has a wonderful program in the evening.  You can still listen to Radio Vietnam, Vatican Radio, Radio New Zealand, and the BBC, as well as other broadcasters.  The Voice of Russia has a big signal, too, as does Radio China International.  Radio Romania also has a very strong signal and frequent broadcasts to North America. 

The Ontario DX Club has a really good website and several monthly newsletters and program guides.  They're on the web, and Harold Sellers puts together a very nice chart each month that shows the times for all the English language broadcasts. 

It's not like the old days, but, for the time being anyway, there's still stuff to listen to.  I've been listening to Radio Nederland for the past 41 years, and I am very, very sad that it's disappearing.  It was listening to their SW broadcasts that introduced me to ham radio a long time ago. 

Good listening.  73, Tony


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: KC0MMY on June 28, 2012, 04:48:46 PM
Thanks for the info on Radio Nederlands.  I'll definitely try to tune into that tonight and see if I can at least hear bits and pieces of it. 

If I remember correctly, Radio Bulgaria used to have a music hour in English once a week on shortwave.  I used to listen to that.  I was wondering if they had gone silent since I haven't been able to find them.

It's really a shame that shortwave broadcasts are going silent ... at least for the English language broadcasts anyway.  I understand that it costs money to operate the stations and that the Internet is a primary source of information now, but ...

73 de Andre
KC0MMY


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: WA3YAY on July 02, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
I don't think you're late to the hobby per se, but I think its a different audience the broadcasters are after and, if you're still interested, a bit of a challenge to hear. For instance, Radio Habana Cuba is easy to find as is China Radio International or the Voice of Russia. But it will be a bit more challenging to get a good signal from the Voice of Vietnam simply because they don't have the money for huge antennas, transmitters, staff and relay contracts. But V. of Vietnam may be a bit more interesting for the little time they broadcast in English to North America, which according to primetimeshortwave.com, isn't too often.

I understand how we all may feel about shortwave being a shadow of it's former self, especially with the Beeb ending service to NA. No more hovering over the Hallicrafters S-40A in the shack. But take heart, there are still lots of things to listen to, just in places we never thought of before.


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: N3WAK on July 08, 2012, 02:37:26 PM
You're right.  There are still a lot of stations to listen to...just not as many as in the good old days.  I still listen regularly to the BBC on shortwave, although they don't broadcast to North America.  Many of their transmissions to Africa and elsewhere are perfectly strong here.  Still listen to Deutsche Welle too.  And once in a while, when I need a chuckle, I enjoy listening to Radio Habana Cuba, broadcasting from "the last free territory in the Americas," or however it's phrased.  You can always count on RHC to have an unconventional and refreshing perspective about something the US has done--kind of a reprise of Cold War propaganda.  And I am thankful for broadcasters like Radio Espana Exterior and Radio Australia, which have excellent programming and come blasting in here on the East Coast. 

So, don't give up the ship quite yet, and keep those tubes glowing. 

I'll see you on 25, 31, 41, or 49 meters one of these days.  73, Tony


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: N0SYA on July 12, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
As the world spirals into the next world war I like to listen to the probable combatants. Voice of Russia and China Radio International wich can be found just about any time on hf, and Iran as the "Voice of Justice" nightly at 0330Z on 11920 and // on 13650. It's like 1938 all over again but this time with better receivers and icbms.


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: HFCRUSR on July 23, 2012, 04:31:48 PM
SW BC is very much alive still. I get quite a bit English BCs beaming from transmitters in..
morning-
Australia, New Zealand, China, N Korea, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, Singapore, Philippines etc

day-
Africa, USA (the religious ones), Canada,(RCI no more:() Australia, Spain etc

night-
Africa 4 ways, Seychelles, Russia, New Zealand, Croatia, Italy, Turkey, Cuba, China, Korea, USA (religious and Alex Jones lol) Canada (CFRX Toronto still on 6070)

Still a ton out there to cruise:)

this is a good one
http://www.short-wave.info/index.php

and this one is fun too

http://www.mwlist.org/shortwave_transmitter_sites.php?redir=true


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: W4HLN on July 24, 2012, 05:02:00 AM
Ethnic Music from several different countries is still on...Romania is still strong...My favorite is Radio Greece on 7.475 and 9.420 at night. You dont have to be a fan...It's just neat to hear what others listen to regularly. The Greek music reminds me of the dozens of Greek restaurants I've dined in all over Europe! HI!

Ernie / W4HLN


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: HFCRUSR on July 24, 2012, 08:03:05 AM
yeah Ernie and not to mention Croatia via Germany on 9925kHz in the 0300utc hour (when I get it best here) and all that Spanish music out of S. America and Spain. Even Australia plays a good variety of their own style music.


Title: RE: Any stations of interest for SWLing?
Post by: RENTON481 on August 02, 2012, 05:53:50 AM
I've been listening off and on to SW since the late 1960's and the main difference now is the bands are a little less crowded now with the disappearing international broadcasters, and there are less broadcasts to the U.S. in English.  I sort of miss the Radio Moscow World Service of the 1980's, because during that period they had more features on then-Soviet Central Asia, and played a lot of music from that area of the world.

Radio Australia and Radio New Zealand are still interesting to listen to (although Radio Australia was more interesting in the 70's and 80's because they played more music back then), and the BBC's broadcasts in English to Asia are still audible in the U.S.  I listen to the Spanish and Portuguese broadcasts from Radiobras and Radio Exterior De Espana for the music, and to me the languages are interesting.  NHK has some cool music sometimes during the morning on 31 meters.   

During the winter I hear a lot of different countries with good signals on 41, 49, and 31 meters, including programming to and from South Asia and the Middle East. 

The shortwaves are still interesting, just interesting in a different way than they were when I started listening to SW.  There also is still a lot to hear on the ham bands; the ham bands are as busy as they were ten or twenty years ago.  Listening to the hams is a great way to hear the world.