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Title: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: K1CJS on August 12, 2012, 05:58:30 AM
The past few days that I've been on this site, when pages load 'googleads' has been putting additional page markers in the browsing file.  I have to click on the back button two or three times before I can actually get the browser to display the previous page.  Finally used the drop down to see what was going on.

Google is really starting to get my goat!

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and IE 8 right now,  Looks like I may have to try Firefox if this keeps up--or would that be a waste of time?

Any ideas or tips?  Thanks!


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: WA2ONH on August 12, 2012, 06:15:39 AM
Want NO ADS - Than switch to Google's CHROME browser with AdBlock Plus option.

LINK: https://support.google.com/chrome/?hl=en&p=help&ctx=menu

LINK: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb

Plus, Chrome will allow you to import all your Favorites from IE 8.

Good Luck!


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: K5TR on August 12, 2012, 07:10:38 AM
The past few days that I've been on this site, when pages load 'googleads' has been putting additional page markers in the browsing file.  I have to click on the back button two or three times before I can actually get the browser to display the previous page.  Finally used the drop down to see what was going on.

I think I understand what you are saying.

You are seeing ads show up in the history as if they were pages?

Can you tell me what URLs you see for each of those history pages?






Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: N4NYY on August 12, 2012, 10:28:54 AM
Want NO ADS - Than switch to Google's CHROME browser with AdBlock Plus option.

LINK: https://support.google.com/chrome/?hl=en&p=help&ctx=menu

LINK: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb

Plus, Chrome will allow you to import all your Favorites from IE 8.

Good Luck!

Adblock works with Firefox, too.


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: K1CJS on August 13, 2012, 04:00:18 AM
I think I understand what you are saying.

You are seeing ads show up in the history as if they were pages?

Can you tell me what URLs you see for each of those history pages?

Clicking on the 'back' button at the top of the browser works only if you click on it two or three times.  On the dropdown navigation menu, this is what is listed when I'm on this page:
  
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/page
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/page
Site Talk
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/page
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/page
eHam-Index
eHam.net Home-Amateur Radio(Ham Rad
(this would be the previous page I visited)

It's not a case of ads popping up in the middle of the screen.  I'm guessing that the 'googleads' lines are the loading of the ads banners at the top and left sides of the screen.

I'm going to reload Firefox and try that browser.  I'm still leery of using Chrome--after the rumors I've heard of Google's automatic 'snooping' that is done when Chrome is used.

Thanks for the reply!


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: AC5UP on August 13, 2012, 04:37:57 AM
I've made it policy over the past few years to have as little to do with Microsoft, Apple and Google as possible, and I'm starting to feel the same way about Yahoo!.

Don't get me started on Facebook.

For the past few years what you've been seeing is the corporatization of the web. Used to be it was all about delivering content to the user. Now it's about delivering users to a database for targeted marketing. I keep seeing the same adverts at multiple web sites for items I've recently searched and just for grins I'll do a search for something odd like a nylon spatula. Damned if those adverts don't start showing me nylon spatulas wherever I go. What does that tell me?

It tells me something I already knew, that everything in this world has a price. And it would seem the price of using the web has become Google's doubleclick following me everywhere I go.

George Orwell got a few things right, but who'd have thought Big Brother would be listed on the NYSE and NASDAQ instead of being a well-kept secret?

If you haven't gotten in the habit of routinely flushing your cookies and browsing history, consider it............ It won't stop the data mining, but it does make the bastards work a little harder.    ;)


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: K5TR on August 13, 2012, 09:05:59 AM
Clicking on the 'back' button at the top of the browser works only if you click on it two or three times.  On the dropdown navigation menu, this is what is listed when I'm on this page:
  
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/page
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/page
Site Talk
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/page
http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/page
eHam-Index


Ok - yes I do understand.  I did some looking around yesterday and I see this
being complained about in various places on the web - and I see a number of
suggestions about how to fix it but not one and so I am not sure of any
of the 'fixes' really being fixes for the issue.

I just looked at the one windows machine I have here and it is running windows xp / IE8 so maybe I will
play with that and see if I can get it to replicate this issue.

thanks




Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: K1CJS on August 13, 2012, 12:56:58 PM
Thanks to you too, George, for the quick reply.  I know it isn't anything e-ham is doing--it's google, and you've got to have the ad revenue to support the servers.

I just downloaded Firefox again and I'm going to play with that to see if it's going to be better.

It's just that I don't like the multiple google ad addresses, it makes it a pain to go back and forth while I'm scanning the web, and especially the forums here.

AC5UP,

Yeah, I know about that too--it seems that all you see on the search engines are leads to sales sites, even when you put a specific thing you're searching for, such as 'manual' or 'schematic'.  And how about the sites that have multiple listings, you know, the ones that have their site--the exact same info to the site--on every page of the search results.  The search engines are really getting sickening for that.  It figures, though--every time something decent comes along, corporate America follows soon after and fowls the whoile thing up.


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: N0MKC on August 13, 2012, 03:20:16 PM
I use Firefox with Adblock Plus and Do Not Track Plus; the combination works wonders.


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: N4CR on August 13, 2012, 03:59:24 PM
...I've recently searched and just for grins I'll do a search for something odd like a nylon spatula. Damned if those adverts don't start showing me nylon spatulas wherever I go. What does that tell me?

It tells me something I already knew, that everything in this world has a price. And it would seem the price of using the web has become Google's doubleclick following me everywhere I go.

Check out Ghostery.

http://www.ghostery.com/about

It allows you to selectively choose who can track you without a lot of constant input. I don't let anyone track me. Ghostery makes it a no brainer.

Ghostery and Ad-Block Plus make the web survivable to a great extent.


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: K1CJS on August 14, 2012, 08:33:18 AM
A quick update.  I've run into the same problem on another couple of websites I use.  So I downloaded Firefox and am using it now, and the problem is gone--on all the websites.  So much for Internet Explorer as far as I'm concerned.  Firefox will take some getting used to again, but that's the way it goes.  Thanks to everyone who replied!

Oh, BTW, Thunderbird has replaced Windows Live Mail too.  It also seems to be better.


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: W5DQ on August 16, 2012, 11:35:41 AM
A quick update.  I've run into the same problem on another couple of websites I use.  So I downloaded Firefox and am using it now, and the problem is gone--on all the websites.  So much for Internet Explorer as far as I'm concerned.  Firefox will take some getting used to again, but that's the way it goes.  Thanks to everyone who replied!

Oh, BTW, Thunderbird has replaced Windows Live Mail too.  It also seems to be better.

I use Firefox currently and only fire up Internet Exploder when I have to use it due to compatibility issues.
I used to use Thunderbird but had to drops it as has no support (none I could find anyway) for syncing to my Blackberry cellphone. Thunderbird also has no way to export email to a file that is compatible with Outlook import. I need to use Outlook for interfacing with my work email. It was just a real headache dealing with both sides so I had to opt for Outlook. I do run Thunderbird on my Linux box in a monitor mode only for email checking (doesn't clear the server when checking with Thunderbird - leaves that for Outlook to do). I like Thunderbird but work needs trumps my personal use .... at least for now.

Gene W5DQ


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: G4AON on August 17, 2012, 12:04:34 AM
I use Firefox with NoScript, which is one of the Mozilla approved add-ons for Firefox and recommended as a security feature by several IT papers. I don't see any Google ads on here, if that is where you are seeing them.

That also stops "drive by" malicious software installs. "NoScript" can be annoying at times as it stops some site features working (as it is designed to), you have to specifically allow parts of a site, which can either be temporary or permanent.

Dave


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: W5DQ on September 13, 2012, 03:44:04 PM
The past few days that I've been on this site, when pages load 'googleads' has been putting additional page markers in the browsing file.  I have to click on the back button two or three times before I can actually get the browser to display the previous page.  Finally used the drop down to see what was going on.

Google is really starting to get my goat!

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and IE 8 right now,  Looks like I may have to try Firefox if this keeps up--or would that be a waste of time?

Any ideas or tips?  Thanks!

Don't want ads -  there's an easy fix .... pony up for a subscription and you don't get any ads.

I subscribe and don't see any ads! Plus I used AD Block Plus and don't get ads on most sites.

Gene W5DQ


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: K1CJS on September 14, 2012, 01:40:45 PM
Never said the ads bother me, I was referring to the additional page addresses in the navigation panes--the drop down box where you can skip back or ahead a few pages instead of one at a time. 

I did subscribe at one time and may again, but not just right now.  THOSE ads (no subscription) don't bother me.  Anyway, the problem is resolved.


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: W8JX on September 14, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
I use Firefox with NoScript, which is one of the Mozilla approved add-ons for Firefox and recommended as a security feature by several IT papers. I don't see any Google ads on here, if that is where you are seeing them.

That also stops "drive by" malicious software installs. "NoScript" can be annoying at times as it stops some site features working (as it is designed to), you have to specifically allow parts of a site, which can either be temporary or permanent.

Dave

I have used FireFox and their betas for many years with No Script add on. Works nicely. 


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: WN2C on September 19, 2012, 10:18:56 AM
I don't know what all the fuss is about ads. Turn on the pop up blocker and you wont see the ads cause I don't see any on eham. Using IE 9 just for info.

73 wn2c Rick


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: WB6DGN on September 26, 2012, 12:54:11 AM
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I have used FireFox and their betas for many years with No Script add on. Works nicely. 

I use Firefox and Thunderbird and it also works well for me with one exception.  That is, it TELLS ME when it is going to do an update, it doesn't ASK.  And that may be when I need to shut down the computer and leave quickly.  But, NO, I have to wait until Firefox (or Thunderbird) is through updating first.  For various reasons I will not leave the computer on, or even powered up, when its not in use, so this is a real burden.  For that reason, I'm looking for something else that is equally versatile but not so "BOSSY".  As others have noted though, google is NOT an option.  Picky, YES, but until they pay for the computer and its operation, I make the rules, NOT the software!.
Tom


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: AC5UP on September 26, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
...which is why you need to look in TOOLS => OPTIONS => ADVANCED => UPDATES and configure Firefox to ask if you want to install updates.

It's an option, and if you turn off the updater completely you should click HELP => ABOUT once a week or better to let Firefox check for updates. Another good idea is to periodically click TOOLS => ADD-ONS => Check to see if your add-ons are up to date (in blue). Betcha' you have a few that could use a re-up.

Thunderbird has similar utilities but the menu bar wording may differ slightly.


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: KB7XU on October 03, 2012, 08:41:40 AM
I'm having the same grief using IE7.   >:(   If I click the menu button next to the forward/back navigation buttons at the top left of the page, I often see as many as 5 https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net.page listed on top of the page I want to return to.  I can then just click the target page I want and go directly to it.

However, that's just a work-around to a highly annoying "feature" of Google ad crap.  I should be able to use my hardware in the manner I wish, i.e., just using the backspace button, without all the extra steps.     :'(   


Title: RE: Google ads gumming up the navigation
Post by: K1CJS on October 05, 2012, 10:18:48 AM
Just a suggestion--dump IE and get Firefox.  Even without the add-ons to block the ads, Firefox works a whole lot better.  So, for that matter does the Thunderbird e-mail client over the Live! set of clients.