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Title: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: WA4D on December 04, 2012, 12:45:13 PM
SpanishHam Magazine posts Kenwood TS-990 Prices as 7467 Euros.
At current exchange rates that is $9K  plus (USD)

http://www.radio-noticias.eu/noticias/Kenwood-TS-990.html

Stateside pricing remains a mystery.

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Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: KK4CPH on December 04, 2012, 03:27:41 PM
Hey, that's about $3,000 cheaper than the ICOM 7800  :P  Makes the Ten Tec Orion II even more tempting.

Eric


Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: WA4D on December 04, 2012, 04:35:39 PM
Yes Eric much more expensive than the Ten Tec Orion. That said, there seems to be some confusion over the original report. (Being discussed over on Yahoo 990 Group)

One school holds that the Euro to Dollar conversion is not the formula to derive the radio price in US. And there is  evidence to support that. Example: the Icom 7600 costs about $3010 British pound and about $3700 (Gigaparts) in the States.  So trying to figure out what a US price is based on a known Euro price is a bit of  pretzel logic.  So I'll just wait until we see a real price posted.

mike


Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: KE3WD on December 04, 2012, 05:40:35 PM
The British Pound is not the Euro, right? 


Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: WA4D on December 04, 2012, 06:08:14 PM
"British pound" is not the Euro correct.

There are many conversion sites on the web. Today 1 EURO = .81 British Pound Sterling.

And 1 Euro (at today's rate) = 1.31 (USD)

Yet, knowing the price of a rig in Spain (whose currency is the Euro) doesn't necessarily extrapolate to the British pound and further to the USD.  ( Hey Don't ask me why! )



Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: ZENKI on December 05, 2012, 02:15:53 AM
Well if it has:

1. A decent receiver
2. A low IMD 200 transmitter
3. A calibrated S-meter
4. Decent AGC
5. Low distortion  audio amplifier
6. Fast bandscope with  good resolution bandwidths

It will be worthy of consideration. I predict however it will be a fail in several of the above for Kenwood.
The current batch of ham companies are good at taking hams for a ride with useless bells and whistles and no performance.
I do truly wish that Kenwood proves me wrong, but i think I am safe.

The price of  new ham radio models is approaching the prices of good pieces of test equipment and lot more expensive than high end end audio equipment. At least the audiophools are not fools and they get real specifications.
Ham radio operators get a load of marketing hype and no verifiable improvements.  No calibrated S-meter but a useless  analog looking dial replica, Kenwood must know that we are dumbed down suckers.


Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: G3RZP on December 05, 2012, 02:36:31 AM
Don't forget that the European price will include Value Added Tax. I don't know what it is for Spain, but I doubt it is less than 15% with the state of their economy.

Most ham radio stuff is a lot cheaper in the US. At one time, it was actually cheaper to fly to New York for the weekend, buy a rig there and pay duty on it when you carried it back!


Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: M6GOM on December 05, 2012, 05:11:02 PM
Well if it has:

1. A decent receiver
2. A low IMD 200 transmitter
3. A calibrated S-meter
4. Decent AGC
5. Low distortion  audio amplifier
6. Fast bandscope with  good resolution bandwidths

It will be worthy of consideration. I predict however it will be a fail in several of the above for Kenwood.


Having seen one...

1) The sub transceiver is a TS590 so that's a given.
6) It was like looking at PowerSDR.


Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: VE3CWJ on December 08, 2012, 11:14:49 AM
GB Antennes-Towers in Netherlands is listing it at 6500 Euros, so price is starting to come down ;)

http://gbantennes.com/ts-990s-hf50mhz-200watt-p-526.html?language=en&osCsid=f30a181ad813f8c9b93820657ec54c17


Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: WA4D on December 08, 2012, 05:23:33 PM
 Yes I see that number.

That said, as you go inside to the product page, they say:

Price will start by 6500,00 euro but price can by higher call us for the price

So this suggests that this is not their "final" price.

The US price at this point has yet to be published (at least as far as I can tell.)


Title: RE: First Europenan Pricing on the Kenwood TS-990
Post by: STAYVERTICAL on December 08, 2012, 08:54:17 PM
Hi all,

For those interested, there is a button at the bottom of the dutch website which can convert between currencies.

The base price in USD is $6714.00 with a delivery date in February 2013.
They are marked as not available yet.
This price is excluding VAT which is sales tax in that country.
When you include VAT (Value Added Tax i.e. sales tax) the price goes to $8124.00.

I have no idea of the final U.S. price, but if we are going to have a guessing game, I would estimate $7599.00
My first thought was $7499.00 but I know the number 4 is unlucky (represents death) in asia, so I bumped it up a hundred.

It's not on my shopping list, but for those who want one, good hunting.

73 - Rob