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Title: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on December 28, 2012, 04:48:48 AM
You probably have seen this (their January 28, 2012 issue):

http://spaceweather.com/

or this (he has two really great charts on his blog - the cycle comparison as well as the "pole switch"):

http://cbdakota.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/solar-cycle-24-is-underperforming-its-predecessors/

So - the two big questions I have are:

1) Any more peaks like a year ago - which was 6 weeks of awesome conditions on 10 and 12M (and other bands too), and,

2) Why no announced DX-peditions for 2013 (yet)? All of the rumors I have heard seem to now be pushed out to 2014 . . . but I still expect between 1 - 3 really rare activations in 2013. I would bet more than that in 2014 - starting off with Heard Island, which should be a very serious "crowning achievement". From what I know, 2014 will be another banner year as far as really rare one's go - along the lines of 2012.

These really rare dx-peditions just take a hell of a lot more planning . . . . patience is a requirement.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: NU1O on December 28, 2012, 05:45:11 AM
You probably have seen this (their January 28, 2012 issue):

http://spaceweather.com/


As I stated months ago, when you had two charts side-by-side and were predicting a bunch of solar activity because chart A looked like B, I don't think it's possible to predict these things, but I would not be very surprised if last fall's peak turns out to be the peak for the cycle. It is starting to look more and more like that will be the case.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: K3NRX on December 28, 2012, 05:50:01 AM
You probably have seen this (their January 28, 2012 issue):

http://spaceweather.com/


As I stated months ago, when you had two charts side-by-side and were predicting a bunch of solar activity because chart A looked like B, I don't think it's possible to predict these things, but I would not be very surprised if last fall's peak turns out to be the peak for the cycle. It is starting to look more and more like that will be the case.

What he said.  This cycle SUCKS eggs!...compared to the last two anyway....

V
KA3NRX

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: NK7Z on December 28, 2012, 05:55:21 AM
You probably have seen this (their January 28, 2012 issue):

http://spaceweather.com/


As I stated months ago, when you had two charts side-by-side and were predicting a bunch of solar activity because chart A looked like B, I don't think it's possible to predict these things, but I would not be very surprised if last fall's peak turns out to be the peak for the cycle. It is starting to look more and more like that will be the case.

73,

Chris/NU1O

Party Pooper...  I fear you are correct...  I expect we have seen the best of 24 so far already...
73's


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: NU1O on December 28, 2012, 06:02:23 AM
Party Pooper...  I fear you are correct...  I expect we have seen the best of 24 so far already...
73's


I didn't mean to be a Party Pooper but I was doing my Jack Webb imitation. Just the facts, just the facts.  ;)

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on December 28, 2012, 06:02:50 AM
I had an absolute banner year in 2012 DX wise despite the "solar numbers". But yes - I agree, compared to the peak(s) of the last cycle - so far, this one is "anemic". Even weaker than predicted.

Personally, I think there will be another spike like a year ago. But that lasted only about 6 weeks.

From my memory of the second peak of the last cycle, the years following the peak were especially good for 30M and 40M, so I do look forward to that. In fact, I worked as much rare DX on these bands as I did on 20M and above during the peak.

I will become a 20, 40 and 160M fanatic after 2013 . . . . when I can re-build my antenna farm (yet again). I have the aluminum and coils needed to do something decent on my small lot.



Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: N3QE on December 28, 2012, 06:06:13 AM
There is no indication that low cycles are short cycles, are there? We still have 2 to 3 years left in this peak, many opportunities for it to pick up and make 10M active again.

It'd be easy to be pessimistic because of the low sunspot numbers in the past month but 10M and 12M were quite usable and productive in November, just a month ago. I got at least one "new one" on 12M in the past month too. And while none of the openings on 10M in the ARRL 10 were ones that could be foretold by VOACAP et al... I am beginning to learn that 10M is full of surprises if folks would try pointing their antennas in different directions :-). There was an astonishingly good opening to the far east, both mornings on 10M.

And on DXpeditions in 2013, I'm fully sure there will be some surprise announcements coming out, just like in 2012.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: W2LO on December 28, 2012, 06:12:58 AM
 This is by far the worst cycle that I have experienced in over 50 years; its so-called brief "peaks" would have been just fair conditions in any other cycle. Real peaks with loud QRP high band signals day after day for weeks on end from all over the world have been essentially non-existent.

 There's no doubt in my mind that the best is behind us but I hope that I'm wrong.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: NU1O on December 28, 2012, 06:23:20 AM

It'd be easy to be pessimistic because of the low sunspot numbers in the past month but 10M and 12M were quite usable and productive in November, just a month ago.


On Wednesday I heard a station in CT working some Europeans on CW but the phone section of the band was absolutely quiet. I put out a CQ DX call on 28.490 and I ran Europeans for an hour straight. Most were S7 and stronger and one German station was 30 over S9.  I could've easily worked the pileup for another hour but I needed something to drink and when I went back to the band it had closed to Europe.

10 meters is open to some area most everyday.  Just get on and call CQ and you maybe very surprised with who comes back to you.

Also, do not ignore the long path openings despite the low SFI.  I worked Vietnam LP a few weeks ago and on Wednesday there was an Asian station working the US LP but he was mainly worked by stations in the Southern US but as far North as NC.


73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on December 28, 2012, 06:30:15 AM
I worked V5/DL3DXX a couple days ago on 10M - very easily, and Namibia on 10M from the West Coast is really good DX. My home brewed 2 element yagi was pointed toward the Long Path too. He was the only CW signal on the band at the time.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: K9NW on December 28, 2012, 06:53:36 AM
2) Why no announced DX-peditions for 2013 (yet)?


DXpeditions often happen when they happen, especially those to places that might be in the Top 25 or so.  Permissions may be long in coming but when they do come, one says "Thank You.  Let's go!", not "Thank You.  Now let's see if we can maybe push this back a year or two."  (Obviously, this assumes many logistical details are already in place.)


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: W1VT on December 28, 2012, 06:59:50 AM
Why would one wait considering the accuracy of long term forecasts?


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on December 28, 2012, 07:02:07 AM
Permissions may be long in coming but when they do come, one says "Thank You.  Let's go!", not "Thank You.  Now let's see if we can maybe push this back a year or two."  

Good point - although one DX-pedition leader told me they like to announce far enough in advance to generate as many up front donations as they can.

But only two of the 6 ATNO's I worked in 2012 had a lead of 6 months or more as far as announcement was concerned (HK0NA and ZL9HR). 3 were single op DX-peds and one was "at home".


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: WS3N on December 28, 2012, 08:12:22 AM
I put out a CQ DX call on 28.490 and I ran Europeans for an hour straight.

Forget the mysteries of the solar cycle. The real puzzle is why Europeans will stand in line to work an average station in NE CONUS.  :D


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: K0YQ on December 28, 2012, 08:41:55 AM
I worked V5/DL3DXX a couple days ago on 10M - very easily, and Namibia on 10M from the West Coast is really good DX.

Some days I leave my rigged parked on 28076 monitoring the JT65 signals, and almost daily the band opens to southern Africa, even on my pathetic antenna.

My guess is that this solar cycle has already peaked, but who knows.  And if it has I can't wait to see Rich's stacked 160M beams he's going to build!


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: NU1O on December 28, 2012, 09:10:16 AM
I put out a CQ DX call on 28.490 and I ran Europeans for an hour straight.

Forget the mysteries of the solar cycle. The real puzzle is why Europeans will stand in line to work an average station in NE CONUS.  :D

I have wondered the same thing but your question applies both ways since many US stations will stand in line to work common European countries.

I've come up with the following answers.


1) I am putting a strong signal into Europe, and although not as strong as a contest station or a big DX station with an array, when there are not many signals coming out of the US it is strong enough to generate interest.

2) Once a few stations start calling others jump in to see how they compare. IOW, a small pileup eventually generates a larger pileup. The "snowball effect."

3) I have worked many of the stations before, either on 10 meters or other bands. Stations like to touch base every so often.

4) I think many of the stations are limited to 10 meters only. The lot sizes in Europe are often smaller than the lots here in the North East, and some stations can only erect their antennas a few meters above the roof line. I work many stations running very simple antennas with 100 Watts and under. Although I did not work any the other day, I often work a lot of mobiles on 10 meters.

5) Working any signal across the pond is better than working nothing at all.

6) it is more common than you may think. I have a friend who mostly operates on 20 meters and although my limit at the microphone is about an hour, he calls CQ DX mostly everyday and he answers common European countries for hour on end.  He is not a Dxer. He doesn't use a PC for spots or logging purposes. He is just perfectly content to work the same countries day-in and day-out, and those working him are obviously content to work a highly populated North Eastern state, day-in and day-out.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: W1VT on December 28, 2012, 09:54:04 AM
Not many stations call CQ and run DX stations--when someone does so it is a great opportunity for the smaller stations to make contacts.  When I was working a bunch of Europeans to get 100 on 17M I worked at least two QRP stations, as well as few who were even weaker.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: N6ORB on December 28, 2012, 10:35:52 AM
I guess the guys at Radio Arcala, OH8X, saw this puny solar cycle coming before the rest of us did.

http://www.radioarcala.com/nbspStation/TowersandAntennas/Tower7/tabid/358/Default.aspx

Be sure to scroll down.

Dave, N6ORB


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on December 28, 2012, 11:22:43 AM
I guess the guys at Radio Arcala, OH8X, saw this puny solar cycle coming before the rest of us did.

http://www.radioarcala.com/nbspStation/TowersandAntennas/Tower7/tabid/358/Default.aspx

Be sure to scroll down.

Dave, N6ORB


P'shaw, Radio Arcala only wishes they had one of these baby's:

http://www.hy-gain.com/Product.php?productid=AV-18HTJR

(click on the picture to see the future of what we will be using soon - as Cycle 24 bottoms out) . . . .


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KD8MJR on December 28, 2012, 01:20:31 PM
It's a crying shame about cycle 24!
I know some guys are up their in age and waiting for 25 might be very hard if not impossible.  It really would have been nice if we even got 6 months of really good propagation but alas that seems almost impossible at this point.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: K3VAT on December 28, 2012, 02:44:52 PM

So - the two big questions I have are:

1) Any more peaks like a year ago - which was 6 weeks of awesome conditions on 10 and 12M (and other bands too), and,


"Short term" peaks and excursions that occur within the much longer interval for natural phenomena like sunspot cycles are the data point variance.  The trend is determined on a longer scale than these short term peaks and excursions, often in months and years.

The trend for sunspots and hence for increase in usable MUFs (like 12M and 10M, and even 6M) is still on the way up, predicted to peak - depending on who you believe - sometime mid-2013.  The variance over the past number of the years, and the expected value variance will be, to quote an economics term, volatile.  So these swings in high sunspot numbers (like someone pointed out) then low numbers are NOT out of the ordinary - they're just the normal swings of natural phenomena.

Bottom line: don't fret too much about recent poor sunspot numbers - we'll get many more opportunities for high band openings later this winter and throughout spring.  Summer may even bring some awesome F[2] openings on 6M.



GL, HNY, Rich, K3VAT


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KD8SAV on January 07, 2013, 11:42:11 PM
We are in an increase in the sunspots right now. It's at 196, and has been for a couple of weeks now.

I'm looking forward to the next couple of contests this year if this holds up.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: WS4T on January 08, 2013, 12:25:17 AM
And if it has I can't wait to see Rich's stacked 160M beams he's going to build!

Rich doesn't want to spill the beams yet, but I've got a distant cousin who works in the Orinda permit department and she gave me the head's up. Here's a hint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCZcjqltJVA


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on January 08, 2013, 04:44:37 AM
And if it has I can't wait to see Rich's stacked 160M beams he's going to build!

Rich doesn't want to spill the beams yet, but I've got a distant cousin who works in the Orinda permit department and she gave me the head's up. Here's a hint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCZcjqltJVA

Shhhhhhhhhhh! Its a secret! The Craftsman Drill Press and Pop Riveter are all lined up and ready to go!

I need to make good friends with your distant cousin  ;D


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: W1VT on January 08, 2013, 07:41:07 AM
Figures--I just spend two days putting up an 80 meter vertical in the snow.  Now the sunspots come back.  :D


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: AF3Y on January 08, 2013, 09:32:46 AM
Figures--I just spend two days putting up an 80 meter vertical in the snow.  Now the sunspots come back.  :D

SNOW???  What's that? ::)  Oh, you mean that cold, white frozen rain?  I see some on TV every now and then.  I dont think I want any. hi hi
73, Gene AF3Y 8)


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: WS3N on January 08, 2013, 10:52:07 AM
I would gladly trade some snow for days when both the temperature and humidity are in the 90s. Growing up in PA, that was called a heat wave, and it ended after a week. Here it's the standard weather from June through September.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KB3LIX on January 08, 2013, 11:12:53 AM
The SFI is at 150 and SN is at 196.
A quick spin iof the dial on 10m reveals...NOTHING !
No beacons either.

Even the chickenband is quiet.
(I keep one programmed "channel" 27.025, the BOWL setup)
I use the BOWL to check for propagation.

If I hear the chickens, I know that 10 meters might be open.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: AF3Y on January 08, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
I would gladly trade some snow for days when both the temperature and humidity are in the 90s. Growing up in PA, that was called a heat wave, and it ended after a week. Here it's the standard weather from June through September.


Yep....... 80o days and 65o nites forecast for the next week. (Just another week
in paradise 8))  But the 98o days and 80o nites dont bother me much either. Just stay
in the pool or at the beach :D.

Only thing is if walking around at nite in an unlit area, in the summer, you
have to be careful of ol Jake the Snake laying around.  Now that the damned Pythons are
slowly coming north from the Glades, I will be even more careful. I am NOT wanting to walk
up on a 15 foot snake :o, without my 12 gauge......

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: WS4T on January 08, 2013, 01:27:29 PM
On a more serious note (Rich's original question about more peaks in Cycle 24), I've been thinking lately about these two charts:

Comparison of various cycles with Cycle 24: http://www.solen.info/solar/images/comparison_similar_cycles.png
Chart of just Cycle 14: http://www.solen.info/solar/cycl14.html

Seems to me that in Cycle 14, there was a first major peak in February 1905. This was followed by five more major peaks, with the last occurring in August 1908. So there were major peaks occurring over a span of 3.5 years. Extrapolating to Cycle 24 and putting the first major peak at October 2011, that would keep us going somewhat until April 2015.

I know I'm probably wrong, but I'm trying to find something positive to say about Cycle 24.  >:(

Gary, ES1WST


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on January 08, 2013, 01:38:59 PM
On a more serious note (Rich's original question about more peaks in Cycle 24), I've been thinking lately about these two charts:

Comparison of various cycles with Cycle 24: http://www.solen.info/solar/images/comparison_similar_cycles.png
Chart of just Cycle 14: http://www.solen.info/solar/cycl14.html

Seems to me that in Cycle 14, there was a first major peak in February 1905. This was followed by five more major peaks, with the last occurring in August 1908. So there were major peaks occurring over a span of 3.5 years. Extrapolating to Cycle 24 and putting the first major peak at October 2011, that would keep us going somewhat until April 2015.

I know I'm probably wrong, but I'm trying to find something positive to say about Cycle 24.  >:(

Gary, ES1WST

I do the same thing - my "predictions and comparisons" have been all "wishful thinking". Just a guessing game while bored and between ATNO's - that's all  ;D

See my blog about this:

http://ky6r.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/solar-cycle-24-and-cycle-10/


I like the joke about Pessimists having a better outcome than optimists. Pessimists don't expect things to go well - so  when they don't they can say "I told you so". When things go right - or better than expected, pessimists then can say "Wow - what a great surprise" . . . .

Chris, NU1O will love this comparison:

http://www.solen.info/solar/cyclcomp2.html


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: NU1O on January 08, 2013, 09:45:54 PM
Figures--I just spend two days putting up an 80 meter vertical in the snow.  Now the sunspots come back.  :D

SNOW???  What's that? ::)  Oh, you mean that cold, white frozen rain?  I see some on TV every now and then.  I dont think I want any. hi hi
73, Gene AF3Y 8)

So far it has been a pretty mild winter here in MA. We had a couple of very cold days - meaning 0 F. at dawn - last week but we have not had a lot of snow.  Two years ago the snow was as high as my 6 foot fence and I had to hire somebody to go up on the roof and shovel it off. Rooves were caving in all over New England that winter. I'm sure, Zack, W1VT, remembers that one all too well.

I like to go to Florida during spring training. I get to see some baseball and get away from the lousy winter weather up here, and when I get home spring is just around the corner. I just don't know how you people live there year round. In the summer it is 90 everyday and very humid. To me, that is as bad as our New England winters.  I've always gone to South Florida. I went on spring break to Ft. Lauderdale in Freshmen year and have just kept going year after year. The only bad thing was the NY Yankees used to train there and they stayed two hotels down from where I stayed.

My biggest thrill was sitting by the pool with some college girls from Texas sipping cocktails when a big commotion broke out. It turned out to be Ronald and Nancy Reagan campaigning against Carter. They both looked like movie stars and I did get close enough to shake hands with RWR. I guess that was the spring of 1980. Boy, has time flew by!  That was almost 33 years ago!

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: AF3Y on January 09, 2013, 04:36:06 AM
Chris...... the 90o days are perfect, if you are near the beach. Makes for really great girl watching ;D.

And speaking from experience (good old Ft. Devens), Mass. can be a bitch. I remember having to dig my car out from my back yard in Ayer, Mass. to get to the base.

I was the idiot driving the 60 Chevy CONVERTIBLE. hi hi

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: WD4ELG on January 09, 2013, 06:10:07 AM
Chris, that's a great story.

Gene, I remember the heat of Florida well.  We got back yesterday from Naples...took the wife down for her birthday for a few days.  It was 84 every day.  Loved it, but honestly...I still remember the 95 every day from June til August here in North Carolina with no rain and very high humidity this year....it was brutal.  Worse than anything I remember in Florida.  Then the rain came and it cooled off the second week in September and we opened the windows here in NC.  So after a week of pleasant reminder in Florida, I was actually glad to get back to cooler weather in NC.  72 this weekend both days, I will take it.  After going to college in CT and living there in the early 80's and through the winters of 93/94 with mind-numbing Siberian cold and a major snowstorm every 3 days, I hope I never see snow again.  At least not for home QTH.  Work may take me there, and that's OK for a reminder.

One thing I do remember about living in Jacksonville.  I only had a dipole at 32 feet and lived on a brackish march, but the prop was pretty incredible.  I remember breaking through some big pileups in 97/98, and the logs reflect that it was good "hunting" there on the coast.

Unfortunately, I missed the first peak of 2000 and some of the good DXpeditions from that time, as I did not get active again until early 2002.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: NU1O on January 09, 2013, 08:41:21 AM
Chris...... the 90o days are perfect, if you are near the beach. Makes for really great girl watching ;D.

And speaking from experience (good old Ft. Devens), Mass. can be a bitch. I remember having to dig my car out from my back yard in Ayer, Mass. to get to the base.

I was the idiot driving the 60 Chevy CONVERTIBLE. hi hi

73, Gene AF3Y

Gene, when you saw the leaves falling off the trees didn't you think it might be time to look for a clunker to get you through the winter?  ;)

What about your buddies in the Army Sec. Agency. Didn't one tell you convertibles and New England winters are not typically a good combo?  You must have got a good ribbing if you actually drove the convertible in the middle of winter.

I don't like New England winters any better than hot and humid Florida summers. If I could move, I would. Were I able to move I'd probably opt for one of those islands in the South Pacific.
Tahiti has always had a nice sound to it but it has been spoiled by tourists from what I've heard.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: AF3Y on January 09, 2013, 09:45:43 AM

Gene, when you saw the leaves falling off the trees didn't you think it might be time to look for a clunker to get you through the winter?  ;)

What about your buddies in the Army Sec. Agency. Didn't one tell you convertibles and New England winters are not typically a good combo?  You must have got a good ribbing if you actually drove the convertible in the middle of winter.

73,
Chris/NU1O

Oh Yes...  Lotsa wisecracks from the guys, and the wife was not happy with New England winters either. I recall one morning the doorhandles were frozen/iced over, and a push on the button sliced my thumb open. :o

Went from there to Two Rock Ranch Station in Petaluma, California. Beautiful and BETTER weather.

I will still take the heat over the cold.

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on January 09, 2013, 09:51:18 AM
Went from there to Two Rock Ranch Station in Petaluma, California. Beautiful and BETTER weather.

Escaped the east coast weather in 1982 and never looked back . . . . I kayak in Tomales Bay all the time. Northern California weather is superb - year round. Not too hot, not too cold, low humidity.

Now lets see - what was this thread about?


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: NU1O on January 09, 2013, 10:16:34 AM
Now lets see - what was this thread about?

It was about predicting solar cycle peaks which can't be done yet, so we may as well have some fun reminiscing about the old days and talk about the the weather. 

Nobody is forcing anybody to read posts they aren't interested in.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on January 09, 2013, 10:21:10 AM
Now lets see - what was this thread about?

It was about predicting solar cycle peaks which can't be done yet, so we may as well have some fun reminiscing about the old days and talk about the the weather.  

Nobody is forcing anybody to read posts they aren't interested in.

73,

Chris/NU1O

Surely, I jest  ;D


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: ONAIR on January 09, 2013, 12:43:53 PM
Warm weather is nice, but there is just something about firing up that old rig on a cold winter's night in the middle of a blizzard!  It was even better years ago, when you had the heat from all those glowing tubes to keep you warm.


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: AF3Y on January 09, 2013, 03:01:38 PM
Now lets see - what was this thread about?

It was about predicting solar cycle peaks which can't be done yet, so we may as well have some fun reminiscing about the old days and talk about the the weather.  

Nobody is forcing anybody to read posts they aren't interested in.

73,

Chris/NU1O

Surely, I jest  ;D

Sorry for hijacking the thread. When you get my age, you tend to think about old times a lot.
I could have said reminisce, but dont know how to spell it. hi

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on January 09, 2013, 03:24:45 PM
no problem, my response was a bad attempt at sarcasm - meant as a joke.....


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: AB8MA on January 09, 2013, 03:48:37 PM
Who is Surely?


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: ES1TU on January 09, 2013, 09:34:46 PM
http://adok.dyndns.org:8090/sfi?size=800x200&pen=2

I'd say ol' Sol heard the whining here and decided to show some muscle ;)


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: KY6R on January 10, 2013, 03:29:07 AM
http://adok.dyndns.org:8090/sfi?size=800x200&pen=2

I'd say ol' Sol heard the whining here and decided to show some muscle ;)

NICE!

The death of this cycle and the doomsday agronomists proclaiming that "It has already peaked" might be proved wrong after all.

I still think its fun to try to second guess what will happen - especially when people are bored, waiting for their next ATNO . . .


Title: RE: Will There Be More Peaks in Cycle 24?
Post by: N8XI on January 13, 2013, 07:21:18 AM
I became a Novice in 1958.
1958 had the "MOTHER" of all solar peaks.
But, I wasn't into DXing then.

Around 2000-2004 I decided to go all QRP (sorry for swearing  :D)
Missed a few good ones then, including P5/4L4FN  :'(

With these little teasers into the 160-175 SFI's I am ready for one to blow the electric grid and get rid of the Power Line Noise... ;D

73, Rick - N8XI