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Title: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: NU1O on February 07, 2013, 08:26:46 AM
This may not be needed as a new one since there are a few resident hams in country but it's a big team and they will be on the low bands for possible band fills.

 DXNL 1818 - Feb 6, 2013
                      DX Newsletter



A large multinational team (DF1LON, DJ7JC, DL1YFF, DL8OBF, EI9FBB,
     F2DX, F2JD, F2VX, F5CWU, F5EOT, F5NHJ, F5NKX, F5UFX, F5UOW, F5VHQ,
     F6ENO, F8BJI, F8IXZ, F9IE, FM5CD, K4SV, ON4LO, ON7RN, RG8K, UA9KGH/1)
     will show up as 5X8C with six stations and focus on the lowbands
     from Feb 8-18. Pilot stations are F4TTR and V51B. Their QRGs will be:
     CW:   1826.5, 3524, 7024, 10104, 14024, 18074, 21024, 24892, 28024 kHz
     SSB:  1850, 3785, 7075, 14145, 18140, 21295, 24960, 28480 kHz
     RTTY: 1842, 3585, 7042, 10142, 14082-90, 18102, 21082, 24922, 28082 kHz
     PSK:  3570, 7040, 10140, 14072, 18100, 21072, 24920, 28122 kHz
     RX 160m CW: 1834.5 (EU/NA) and 1821.5 (AS/OC).
     QSL via F1NGP, LoTW. See also: http://www.5x2013.com


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: KB3LIX on February 07, 2013, 08:40:34 AM
I'll take it.
Already have Uganda confirmed on phone (17)
but I'll take lots of band/mode fills.

Something to break the boredom.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: NU1O on February 07, 2013, 09:18:20 AM
I'll take it.
Already have Uganda confirmed on phone (17)
but I'll take lots of band/mode fills.

Something to break the boredom.

I have similar sentiments, Bill. It's something new, it breaks the monotony, and I could use 30 and 40 meters plus some modes on the higher bands from Uganda.

We are about to get a whole slew of countries from Africa and they should be fairly easy for those of us on the East Coast.  9X, XT, and that caravan from Iceland driving from Morocco to South Africa. I think I missed one or two, also.

73 es good luck working them,

Chris/NU1O



Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: W6GX on February 07, 2013, 09:25:04 AM
10m has been open to Africa in the mornings for the past few days.  So this will be a good opportunity to get some band fills for the higher bands too.

I already have Uganda and I wish someone could activate the African countries that I don't have.  Africa IS my biggest challenge.  I still need the following common entities.

Guinea
Libya
Sierra Leone
DRC
Burundi
Rwanda
Ivory Coast
Benin
Burkina Faso
Central African Republic

And some worked but unconfirmed entities.

Western Sahara
Ethiopia
Ghana
Kenya

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: EI2GLB on February 07, 2013, 09:42:53 AM
see them spotted already, very weak here hope they just havn't got to the AMP box yet.

Trevor
EI2GLB


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N2RJ on February 07, 2013, 09:49:48 AM
I'll try 'em, if only to melt the snow and ice from the antennae.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: W2IRT on February 07, 2013, 10:05:32 AM
Easy-peasy. 1 call on RTTY (needed mode), 2 calls on SSB (just 'cuz). Will grab one on CW and call it a day. I only need Uganda on 160m now.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: KB3LIX on February 07, 2013, 10:07:18 AM
Most of the ATNO's from Africa for me are islands except
for Eritrea , Somalia & Equitorial Guinea.
(I'm still jacked that I missed Somalia due to illness)

Equatorial Guinea
Annobon
Bouvet Island
Eritrea
Glorioso
Juan de Nova
Tromelin Island
Crozet
Kerguelen Islands
Amsterdam
Somalia
Heard Island
Marion Is.


But I SURE WILL take the band & mode fills.

Hell, I'll take most anything right now, even if I already
have it confirmed, its always a good time to make
additional DX Q's

Looking forward to some good DX this weekend in the
CQ WW WPX-RTTY contest.
I just wish the SFI would give us all a break and
gain some momentum.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: NU1O on February 07, 2013, 10:15:03 AM
Yes, 5X8C is operating a day early. I can hear them now on 21.024 working split but they aren't very strong now.

Jonathan, XT and 9X have expeditions coming up and that caravan from Morocco should activate a number of the African countries you need.

Libya is going to be tough until things settle down and I have not seen the club in Ethiopia spotted except for a few days after Sid May, ET3SID, passed away. I hope all his hard work in Ethiopia was not in vain.

Huge snowstorm predicted for the North East tomorrow.

73,

Chris/NU1O



Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N2RJ on February 07, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
Ryan, XT and 9X have expeditions coming up and that caravan from Morocco should activate a number of the African countries you need.

I have 9X but could use some bandfills. XT I do not have and that would be ATNO.

I also need Ivory coast since I have not been able to QSL TU2CI.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: W6GX on February 07, 2013, 11:15:18 AM
Ryan, XT and 9X have expeditions coming up and that caravan from Morocco should activate a number of the African countries you need.

I have 9X but could use some bandfills. XT I do not have and that would be ATNO.

I also need Ivory coast since I have not been able to QSL TU2CI.

There's an XT large scale dxpedition coming up.  Also there's 9U and I look forward to that one.

My problem with working Africa on a non-dxpedition contact is not propagation but the competition from the East Coast.  Most of the time they don't call for West Coast or go by numbers.  And worst of all they all seem to enjoy working via simplex despite the huge pileup!!!

For an African dxpedition my success rate is close to 100%.  Of course this is with my tower and beam.  No such luck with my prior antenna setup.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N2RJ on February 07, 2013, 11:47:59 AM
The best time to get the easier African ones is during CQWW. I picked up a large number of African entities that way.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: AF3Y on February 07, 2013, 01:35:58 PM
Only Need 40 and 80 from 5X.

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: K0YQ on February 07, 2013, 04:02:02 PM
Came into the shack this morning, and within 30 seconds of turning on the rig had a no-doubt, first call, barefoot 12M rtty QSO with 5X8C through a decent sized pile up.  That NEVER happens to me.  And to boot Zone 37 was my last needed zone for my rtty WAZ.

I guess that the DX Gods occasionally do smile upon the little guys too.  :)


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: W6GX on February 07, 2013, 05:08:42 PM
Came into the shack this morning, and within 30 seconds of turning on the rig had a no-doubt, first call, barefoot 12M rtty QSO with 5X8C through a decent sized pile up.  That NEVER happens to me.  And to boot Zone 37 was my last needed zone for my rtty WAZ.

I guess that the DX Gods occasionally do smile upon the little guys too.  :)

Congratulations on your 12m contact.  Good job.  I have been in your situation before and it does surprise you at times ;D  Don't be afraid to jump into a big pile up.  You just never know until you try.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: VK3HJ on February 08, 2013, 03:06:59 AM
Haven't heard 5X8C yet, apart from a weak signal on 30m this morning, but had to head out to work. I'm just looking for them on 30m and lower bands. But that's always tough as the competition from Europe usually makes it impossible. Plenty of time yet, they are QRV till the 18th.
Africa is probably about the most challenging region from east coast VK, but I've managed to reduce my wanted list to:
Annobon, Eritrea, and Libya.
And I'm trying not to leave the PA running too long, as it's hot enough here already!
73 es GL,
Luke VK3HJ


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: K3NRX on February 08, 2013, 04:08:03 AM
looking forward to at least listening to the mayhem, since were all pretty parched for some kind of expedition.....Uganda!...say hello to Edie Amin for me..... :o.....like many of you, I need a bunch of those French African Islands and only two mainland countries from the dark continent (eritrea and somalia).....Someone said they were bummed they missed somalia due to illness....I am bummed that I miss them due to not hearing them....and then Paul N6PSE announced that their planned trip to somalia was cancelled because of the previous operation that I could not hear.....AAAAUUUGGGHHH!!!!...... ::)........


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: WS3N on February 08, 2013, 05:13:23 AM
I didn't realize they were uploading to LoTW. It was a nice surprise to find yesterday's 17m RTTY QSO already confirmed.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: AF3Y on February 08, 2013, 06:23:57 AM
looking forward to at least listening to the mayhem, since were all pretty parched for some kind of expedition.....Uganda!...say hello to Edie Amin for me..... :o.....like many of you, I need a bunch of those French African Islands and only two mainland countries from the dark continent (eritrea and somalia).....Someone said they were bummed they missed somalia due to illness....I am bummed that I miss them due to not hearing them....and then Paul N6PSE announced that their planned trip to somalia was cancelled because of the previous operation that I could not hear.....AAAAUUUGGGHHH!!!!...... ::)........

Vince, you could not hear 6O3A or the 6O0CW either?  You REALLY need to consider trying the little S-9 fibreglass vertical and a couple dozen radials. You can buy the 31', which I have, for less than $100.00. You will be pleasantly surprised....  GL!!

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N1UK on February 08, 2013, 06:51:39 AM
There seemed to be a few busted calls going on, on 30m last night. My buddy Jim WB2REM was busted and had to carry on until he finally worked them again. I went in the log as N1UF despite repeating my call 5 times. Another hour of slogging away and finally N1UK was in the log..I earned that one.

Some stations never stop calling even when the dx is working another station. Do they understand what is going on I wonder.


73 Mark N1UK


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: KA1J on February 08, 2013, 09:08:34 AM

Some stations never stop calling even when the dx is working another station. Do they understand what is going on I wonder.


73 Mark N1UK

I believe the majority of these Alligators are caused by selfish greed.

Some because they didn't hear the DX reply to a different call & they inadvertently QRMed and they would not have done so intentionally. I've done this one myself.

Gary
KA1J


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: KB3LIX on February 08, 2013, 11:19:00 AM
Got thru on 30 cw last night with little effort.
I was pleasantly surprized, sounded like the
pileup was big.

Took maybe 15-20 minutes.

Onward and Upward !


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: K3NRX on February 08, 2013, 12:05:58 PM
looking forward to at least listening to the mayhem, since were all pretty parched for some kind of expedition.....Uganda!...say hello to Edie Amin for me..... :o.....like many of you, I need a bunch of those French African Islands and only two mainland countries from the dark continent (eritrea and somalia).....Someone said they were bummed they missed somalia due to illness....I am bummed that I miss them due to not hearing them....and then Paul N6PSE announced that their planned trip to somalia was cancelled because of the previous operation that I could not hear.....AAAAUUUGGGHHH!!!!...... ::)........

Vince, you could not hear 6O3A or the 6O0CW either?  You REALLY need to consider trying the little S-9 fibreglass vertical and a couple dozen radials. You can buy the 31', which I have, for less than $100.00. You will be pleasantly surprised....  GL!!

73, Gene AF3Y


Neither one....Every time I tried to tune them in, they were weak....Thanks for the offer Geno, but ham radio is taking a back seat to a pretty rough existance right now takeing care of aging parents, one of which goes home from his assisted living stay......I now only operate when the cracks in life allow.....Got to run...

CUL

V
KA3NRX


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N3QE on February 08, 2013, 03:21:32 PM
It was literally less than a minute from me working them on 30M, to my call being in their online log.

Obviously not every DXpedition can arrange that sort of instant electronic logging. But as a tool for encouraging folks that they only need to work the DX once, wow, that's a good deal.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: KB3LIX on February 08, 2013, 06:11:22 PM
I spent about 1.5 hours this evening trying to get thru the pileup
on 20m rtty. Finally got thru. Then found them on 17ph.
Took about 10 calls. No biggie...

But my point is, I started working the CQ WPX RTTY contest
and the 12th station I found was...

You guessed it, 5X8C on 20m RTTY.

So much for the hour and a half !

I'll take it !


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: VK3HJ on February 08, 2013, 06:43:33 PM
Yesterday evening (1149z) I spent quite some time trying to crack the EU pileup, and finally found a gap in the din. This morning 1919z, they were working a pile on 40m, seemed like the whole northern hemisphere calling. Found the last station worked, and made it - one call! 30m was weak, and same pile as on 40m, so left it a while. At 2003z, at sunrise, the signal came up a bit, and again, one call and he came straight back!
After drawing a complete blank on 160m this morning, the satisfaction of two new bands for Uganda was most pleasing. Checking the online log a bit later, I found my 3 Q's safely in the log. It always amazes me how much better the Internet connection seems in places even like Africa. I live 50 miles from Melbourne (pop 3.5M), and all I can get here is satellite Internet...
Oh well, the radio is much better out here!
73 es gud DX!
Luke VK3HJ


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: NU1O on February 08, 2013, 10:06:57 PM
Haven't heard 5X8C yet, apart from a weak signal on 30m this morning, but had to head out to work. I'm just looking for them on 30m and lower bands. But that's always tough as the competition from Europe usually makes it impossible. Plenty of time yet, they are QRV till the 18th.
Africa is probably about the most challenging region from east coast VK, but I've managed to reduce my wanted list to:
Annobon, Eritrea, and Libya.
And I'm trying not to leave the PA running too long, as it's hot enough here already!
73 es GL,
Luke VK3HJ

I have seen the news about your 110 degree heat. Stay cool. Here in New England and parts of the East Coast we are experiencing a blizzard.  Looks like I may get 1 foot of snow and Boston may get 2 feet of snow.

The team from Uganda has been very active on many bands. I have not added any new bands or modes yet but it is still early. I did work TZ6BB on 20 CW which is not a new band but he is using LoTW and I have QSL cards from the late 80's. I did work Z81D on 10 meter phone Friday morning which is a new band for Southern Sudan. I did not work ST0R on 10 meters.


73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: W6GX on February 08, 2013, 10:39:47 PM
Today I just read about the additional violence in Mali.  I hope Fernando is out of trouble and safe.

Here's a link to country rankings on violence.  African countries holds 14 spots in the top 20.

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/violence/by-country/

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: WS3N on February 09, 2013, 06:56:59 AM
Looks like I may get 1 foot of snow and Boston may get 2 feet of snow.

GL, Chris. I was in Cambridge during the '78 blizzard. The current totals look comparable.

Jack


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: VK3HJ on February 09, 2013, 07:26:40 AM
Just starting to smell smoke from the large grass fire about 15 miles south of here. It has 19 units on it, and is described as "Contained". At least the weather is cool tonight, so hopefully they'll get it blacked out before the weather gets hot again.
What a contrast to the reports of heavy snow in NE USA. I was talking to a mate in Bakersfield CA this evening, and he's reporting snowfall there too!
Back to topic: didn't hear much of 5X8C at all today. Will be up at sunrise and maybe have a chance to work them on 80m - if they can get EU to shut up for a few minutes!
73 es GL,
Luke VK3HJ


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N9ZMO on February 09, 2013, 04:35:51 PM
I worked them today on 20m. I picked a frequency in the range they were working split, and waited to call when he was ready for the next op.  Took me about 7 minutes, but I got them.

I'm rather new into DXing so for me, it was an exciting contact.

73,
Kurt / N9ZMO


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: AB3CX on February 12, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
These are great ops and easy to work. My only issue is that here in upstate NY I can't even hear them on 80 meters.  I have decent but not great antennas for 80M. No Beverage or pennant. How many of you in NA are hearing them on 80M?


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: W1VT on February 12, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
They were real loud when they were calling for JAs last night on the vertical.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: AF3Y on February 12, 2013, 05:53:42 PM
These are great ops and easy to work. My only issue is that here in upstate NY I can't even hear them on 80 meters.  I have decent but not great antennas for 80M. No Beverage or pennant. How many of you in NA are hearing them on 80M?

Same here in Florida..... Weak signal and QSB as well.
73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: NU1O on February 12, 2013, 11:12:36 PM
I added them on 30 meters today. I used the Skyhawk with the transmatch. They had a decent signal.  That's the lowest band I've worked them on so far.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N3QE on February 13, 2013, 07:47:14 AM
These are great ops and easy to work. My only issue is that here in upstate NY I can't even hear them on 80 meters.  I have decent but not great antennas for 80M. No Beverage or pennant. How many of you in NA are hearing them on 80M?

Same here in Florida..... Weak signal and QSB as well.

For me, they were clear and easy on 30M CW and RTTY, but they have been just occasionally peaking up above the noise on 80M. I have all sorts of other African countries on 80M (and some on 160M) in the log already. I would love to add 5X for 80M and will keep coming back to listen for them.

What astonishes me about 5X8C (and also TZ6BB) is how fast they upload to LOTW and their online logs. Literally just seconds after me working 5X8C on 30M RTTY, I found that I was in their online log. Wow! And TZ6BB I had verified on LOTW same night too.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: NU1O on February 13, 2013, 09:26:32 AM
We better enjoy the African stations while we have a bunch of guys over there.  I had a QSO with a Cappuchine Monk from Italy who is headed for Central Africa and he said they were quite worried about the violence. 

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: WB3BEL on February 13, 2013, 09:38:58 AM
These are great ops and easy to work. My only issue is that here in upstate NY I can't even hear them on 80 meters.  I have decent but not great antennas for 80M. No Beverage or pennant. How many of you in NA are hearing them on 80M?

They seem to have a great signal on 80m here in VA starting about 30min before Sunset until perhaps an hour or two after sunset and then they have periods of extremely fast QSB 10s of sec peak and long fade making QSO difficult.  There seems to be no peak on their sunrise. Based on this I think you should be in the shack a bit before dark and stay there until your enthusiasm dies or you make a Q.

I think that in the last day or so they have made some improvements to their receiving antennas.  Before that they would be very loud at SS working JA and then switch to EU with very few NA and having hard time getting callsigns right.  I think there was an operator change on Monday night 80CW and they went to SSB.  I was thinking well this can't be good...  For a while they were listening on a QRG with local ragchew.  After a bit they changed their listening QRG and I made a couple of calls and it was done and dusted.  I was pretty amazed.  Easy SSB QSO when I had previously called for many many hours on CW with much better SNR and was just adding to global warming???  You never know...

On Tues evening at my local Sunset they were very copiable on 160CW for almost 2hrs.  For part of that time they were about 579.  My RX antenna is K9AY in a very noisy 1/4 acre suburb.  They were pretty loud for a station that far away in the middle of landmass.  They were working EU making a good rate.  I could hear most of the EU callers so I zerobeat the last caller and added few 10s Hz offset and made easy QSO.  But I think that was just luck...I think the spotlight was shining on my station for long time on Tuesday.  On Monday they were much weaker here but folks a bit farther north (NY,NJ,PA) and NW(OH,MI,IN,IL) seemed to be getting some roving spotlight effect.

Recommendation for low band ops.  Try to find them near your SS...Be patient...Promise to follow the DX code of conduct...Maybe the spotlight will land on you...

But if you tune on their frequency or muff up your split button, the DX Gods will likely be mad at you and bad things will happen...I think some of the more polite ops may have a DX Voodoo doll that they are stabbing when they hear this bad behavior and at a minimum it keeps them from adding to the problem :-)  Maybe they also have some DF loops and are keeping a list of people they won't help with antenna projects. ;-)


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: K3NRX on February 13, 2013, 10:23:06 AM
We better enjoy the African stations while we have a bunch of guys over there.  I had a QSO with a Cappuchine Monk from Italy who is headed for Central Africa and he said they were quite worried about the violence. 

73,

Chris/NU1O

Ever since colonial rule ended, up and down the continent those countries always seem to be warring over something, be it religion, or politics, and what not.....anyone who goes on an expedition to AF is really taking quite the chance....but the same can be said for a sneak in expedition like 7O6T, so it's all in how you handle things.....remember the Annobon Island expedition about 10 years ago???....that almost ended in a fiasco....and a ham from England was killed while operating from Gambia......Man!.......I'd be curious to know, Chris....who was the monk that you contacted, and what was his call sign???.......And what part of Italy was he in?......


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: NI0C on February 13, 2013, 02:07:32 PM
This is more of an observation than a complaint-- only about 15% of the 5X8C logged QSO's so far are with North America, with EU scoring around 73%.  EU is obviously much closer and has longer band openings.  I wonder if they plan to operate the ARRL CW DX Contest this weekend. 

73,
Chuck  NI0C 


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: WB3CQM on February 13, 2013, 02:53:24 PM
I was not able to hear them all that good on 160 meter band. So I decided to make my East Beverage longer . I could not get the ground rod down far enough due to rocky ground so I went about 150 feet further to where the creek has flooded a area and piled top soil up for last 100 years , I would guess. The ground rod taped down easy to 6 feet so I drove it in to 8feet  with the sledge hammer and hooked the Beverage up. I spent half the day clearing the trail and so forth.

At my sun set 5:25pm EST  on the 11th I could hear 5X8C and at around 6:00 PM local time they peaked to about S7. I heard a number of east coast stations work them but I could not at time.Maybe if I would have had a amp.

My Beverage is now 900 plus feet and I never lost their signal all that night . After sitting there for 4 hours their signal peaked to s3 or 5  and I do not think any one could hear them. There seemed to be many periods where no one called. I heard one USA station call and 5X8C sent their call many times trying to work them. The op never went back to them. Later when   I called and worked them it was for a new one on 160 as well as a new zone.

To say I was excited to work a new one on Top Band  puts it mildly.

So now I think I built the super Beverage. But last night they faded out around 7:30 and I really never heard them again. So the night I heard them for about 5 hours was mostly on account of propagation and not a new wonder Beverage . 

But after using a short 580 Beverage for 3 years I am pretty sure that this 900 foot Beverage is more quiet and has more narrow receive path. Only months of listening will I get a better idea of performance and not having  a shorter Beverage  to switch to for comparison I will never really know how much better this one is. Just guess work. 

Good luck and DXing to All

73 JIM


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: AB3CX on February 13, 2013, 07:31:50 PM
I was not able to hear them all that good on 160 meter band. So I decided to make my East Beverage longer . I could not get the ground rod down far enough due to rocky ground so I went about 150 feet further to where the creek has flooded a area and piled top soil up for last 100 years , I would guess. The ground rod taped down easy to 6 feet so I drove it in to 8feet  with the sledge hammer and hooked the Beverage up. I spent half the day clearing the trail and so forth.

At my sun set 5:25pm EST  on the 11th I could hear 5X8C and at around 6:00 PM local time they peaked to about S7. I heard a number of east coast stations work them but I could not at time.Maybe if I would have had a amp.

My Beverage is now 900 plus feet and I never lost their signal all that night . After sitting there for 4 hours their signal peaked to s3 or 5  and I do not think any one could hear them. There seemed to be many periods where no one called. I heard one USA station call and 5X8C sent their call many times trying to work them. The op never went back to them. Later when   I called and worked them it was for a new one on 160 as well as a new zone.

To say I was excited to work a new one on Top Band  puts it mildly.

So now I think I built the super Beverage. But last night they faded out around 7:30 and I really never heard them again. So the night I heard them for about 5 hours was mostly on account of propagation and not a new wonder Beverage .  

But after using a short 580 Beverage for 3 years I am pretty sure that this 900 foot Beverage is more quiet and has more narrow receive path. Only months of listening will I get a better idea of performance and not having  a shorter Beverage  to switch to for comparison I will never really know how much better this one is. Just guess work.  

Good luck and DXing to All

73 JIM
Great job and nice story!!

Tonight, 2/13/2013 the 5X8C signal was much better on 80 meters, and I was able to work them using my 1/4 wave vertical. It's a HyTower, and I need a tuner to use it at the CW end of the band. That and a KW.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: AF3Y on February 14, 2013, 12:05:39 AM
Still no joy here for the 5X on 80 meters, but I did work J5NAR for a new 80m bandfill ;D  It was NOT easy....
I need 80m for 8BDXCC, but it's SLOW coming.  I am at 61 worked and 30 confirmed. Most of the unconfirmed 30 were worked over the past few months and I sent cards out to all, asking for buro returns. I figured by the time I work the other 40 or so, and hopefully get those last cards quicker (Or LOTW), the buro cards should come trickling in.

With this 31' vertical and my tuner working for all its worth, I doubt I am putting out much of a signal, even with 1KW to the antenna. It is sure not a pileup buster like on the other bands. hi hi

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: W1VT on February 14, 2013, 03:50:24 AM
Congratulations on the J5.  You are right about all the Africans--I recently worked 7X4, EA9, and 6W in addition to the J5 on 80 with 100W to my 42.5 ft high vertical.  The 5X made a lot of stateside Qs last night--maybe I'll have better luck as the pileup dwindles.

You may want to look out for T48RRC--easy to work and will do OQRS/LoTW.

Zack W1VT


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: NU1O on February 14, 2013, 06:33:53 AM
We better enjoy the African stations while we have a bunch of guys over there.  I had a QSO with a Cappuchine Monk from Italy who is headed for Central Africa and he said they were quite worried about the violence.  

73,

Chris/NU1O

Ever since colonial rule ended, up and down the continent those countries always seem to be warring over something, be it religion, or politics, and what not.....anyone who goes on an expedition to AF is really taking quite the chance....but the same can be said for a sneak in expedition like 7O6T, so it's all in how you handle things.....remember the Annobon Island expedition about 10 years ago???....that almost ended in a fiasco....and a ham from England was killed while operating from Gambia......Man!.......I'd be curious to know, Chris....who was the monk that you contacted, and what was his call sign???.......And what part of Italy was he in?......

Vince,

Although he broadcasted his concerns on the short wave radio I just don't feel comfortable giving out his call and name.  I've seen too many odd things happen and although he did not tell me not to repeat what he said, he didn't tell me to broadcast his concerns all over the globe.

Most of us read the news and are aware of what is happening in much of Africa.

73,

Chris/NU1O




Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: W2IRT on February 14, 2013, 07:44:56 AM
They're dirt-easy to work on the higher bands (I was in the log within minutes of seeing the first spot and 1-called twice more elsewhere), but 80 has been elusive. ESP at best with long fades. I doubt I'll hear them unless they get something better up at their end. I'm sure I could work them, but I won't call unless I can hear them clearly. All I have room for on my lot is a K9AY and there's plenty of electrical noise making things harder than I'd like. Plus the path to them is straight into the side of a long granite hill.


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: VK3HJ on February 14, 2013, 06:25:04 PM
This is more of an observation than a complaint-- only about 15% of the 5X8C logged QSO's so far are with North America, with EU scoring around 73%.  EU is obviously much closer and has longer band openings.  I wonder if they plan to operate the ARRL CW DX Contest this weekend. 

73,
Chuck  NI0C 

That is the situation I find with most African expeditions, which are mostly conducted by Europeans. Of course, most of Europe is easy to work from most of Africa. Much like here to east Asia, especially Japan.
Looking at the statistics, North America has made a little less than 15%, Oceania (not just VK) is 0.8%. Which is typical.
In fact, given the small number of amateurs, let alone DXers in this country, we actually do pretty well! Some of our DXers, who are on 25 hours a day, 8 days a week do very well indeed, with multiple band fills. I've picked up a couple of new bands and a new mode, so am happy. When I can hear them on 80m and 160m, the European pileup makes it near impossible to be heard, so I don't expect to work them on those bands.
The Europeans, bless them all, are just QRM now when *I* am trying trying to work a DXpedition. Though I'm still happy to hear them on Top Band!
Enjoy the last few days of this expedition.
73,
Luke VK3HJ


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N2UGB on February 14, 2013, 09:16:39 PM
Worked 5X8C Mid-morning French time, 14/3/13. Three watts and 8 meters of wire in bushes. 17M cw. Good ears in Uganda. No other bands possible or desired.

F8WBD/P


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: KH6DC on February 18, 2013, 12:56:45 PM
I could never hear them when they were qrv.  Funny I worked Burundi and they were just above the noise level.  Timing of the DXpedition and propagation was the key factor.  Oh well, hopefully propagation is good or better for the Burkina Faso DXpedition.

73, Delwyn KH6DC


Title: RE: Large expedition to Uganda starts Feb. 8th
Post by: N3QE on February 18, 2013, 03:13:50 PM
For me, they were clear and easy on 30M CW and RTTY, but they have been just occasionally peaking up above the noise on 80M. I have all sorts of other African countries on 80M (and some on 160M) in the log already. I would love to add 5X for 80M and will keep coming back to listen for them.

Just want to add... the next night I did get them on 80M CW! Thanks guys! And the fast uploads to LOTW and clublog are very useful too!