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Title: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W7GIF on March 08, 2013, 06:06:16 PM
frustrated, or annoyed by folks who post on the classifieds with only contact by email, that only check their email weekly.....or never? Maybe I'm just too old-school courteous, and  feel obliged to follow up on ads placed.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: K8AXW on March 08, 2013, 08:37:16 PM
Yup!  I consider them "untrustworthy" and refuse to buy anything they have, no matter how much I want or need it. 

Quite often, this is a ruse to suck you into a deal you really don't want to be involved with.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W1JKA on March 09, 2013, 06:27:32 AM
  Annoyance only,I will now only deal with folks within a 200 mi. radius of my QTH and with a phone number then only leaving a one time message.Although one of my most interesting and honest transactions was with an OT via snail mail, but I fear this type of individual is disappearing from the scene fast.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W7GIF on March 09, 2013, 08:11:05 AM
Yup!  I consider them "untrustworthy" and refuse to buy anything they have, no matter how much I want or need it.  

Quite often, this is a ruse to suck you into a deal you really don't want to be involved with.
I agree. If not "untrustworthy".....at least undependable. And, you could be onto something with the tactic of buiding a perspective buyer's anxiety or appetite. And, although I realize it's a symptom of current culture or technology, I won't do business with anyone that can't or won't write in complete sentences, using conventional writing standards.....like capitalization, and punctuation. One-word responses to inquiries, with no salutation or closing "signature" provide me with all the insight I need regarding the writer's character and attitude. I like to think that I'm respectful and courteous when communicating with other folks, and expect no less from others. It doesn't take any real effort......just the "desire". But, perhaps that's just one more trait that's been discarded in the current culture.

But, that's just one old timers take on things.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: K8AXW on March 09, 2013, 08:30:09 AM
GIF:  You nailed it "oldtimer!"  With the way techno-communications are going these days, I suspect that one day most will be e-communicating with monosyllables.....AKA text messaging.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: AA4PB on March 09, 2013, 08:43:46 AM
GIF:  You nailed it "oldtimer!"  With the way techno-communications are going these days, I suspect that one day most will be e-communicating with monosyllables.....AKA text messaging.

QSL TNX FER QSO OM 73   ;D


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W7GIF on March 09, 2013, 12:57:35 PM
GIF:  You nailed it "oldtimer!"  With the way techno-communications are going these days, I suspect that one day most will be e-communicating with monosyllables.....AKA text messaging.

QSL TNX FER QSO OM 73   ;D

Hehehe. Point taken. But, even though I resort to the economies of "standard" abbreviations in the CW realm, I'm still able (willing) to use classical grammatical and syntax rules in my written word. I suppose I rationalize that, by believing that use of the CW abbreviations in message transmission ease the real-time character-stream copy burden of the recipient, whereas written word is absent that copy burden. And, messages written using classical syntax and grammatical conventions, connote respect  or acknowledgement of the recipient as a "person", rather than a decoder or decrypter.....and, deserving of the time and thought to be treated as a "person".
But, I must confess that after having been on an electronic "leash" for many years of my former life, I have NEVER sent or received a text message. Nor, have I felt the need to have a cell phone surgically attached to....or implanted in my ear. I often wonder just how it is that our lot ever progressed or even survived without the indispensable personal portable communications and entertainment devices of today. Why, I remember when folks actually lived their own lives unencumbered by electronic leashes, with real, personal experiences....not vicariously through or with others. And, they had time to appreciate and enjoy life. It was all very personal......and rewarding.

Did I fail to mention that I remember walking with the dinosaurs?


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: AA4PB on March 09, 2013, 01:57:32 PM
I have to use a $#%* blackberry for work. Once you type a couple of messages on the tiny keypad you soon learn the abbreviations so it's not that much different than the CW rational in my opinion.

By the way, I notice that QSL is sometimes used by texters as a confirmation.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: K1CJS on March 10, 2013, 08:38:39 AM
...By the way, I notice that QSL is sometimes used by texters as a confirmation.

Gee, wonder who started that?   ;D


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: KA5IPF on March 10, 2013, 10:23:03 AM
frustrated, or annoyed by folks who post on the classifieds with only contact by email, that only check their email weekly.....or never? Maybe I'm just too old-school courteous, and  feel obliged to follow up on ads placed.

I never put a phone number. I don't like calls at 6AM or 11PM, some people have no sense of common courtesy. BUT I do check and answer e-mail several times a day.

Clif


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W7GIF on March 11, 2013, 01:05:03 PM
frustrated, or annoyed by folks who post on the classifieds with only contact by email, that only check their email weekly.....or never? Maybe I'm just too old-school courteous, and  feel obliged to follow up on ads placed.

I never put a phone number. I don't like calls at 6AM or 11PM, some people have no sense of common courtesy. BUT I do check and answer e-mail several times a day.

Clif
Hi Clif,
I suspect you're right about common courtesy, and using one's head when placing phone calls (even consideration of differences in time zones). If only more folks were as diligent as you in monitoring their email messages.......even just daily. For folks looking to buy or sell, it's......again, just common courtesy....to answer questions/responses so that they can get on with their quest.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: KK8ZZ on March 11, 2013, 03:40:44 PM
Haven't had that happen much, but am surprised at the SCAMMERS who set up a quick Yahoo or Hotmail account with some poor ham's callsign and then ask for non-refundable money orders or bank transfers for payment. Had one on QRZ.COM today who was selling a Flex 3000 for a very attractive price. I asked him for his phone number and the posting disappeared. He wanted a bank transfer. Idiots.   de KK8ZZ


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: KG6BRG on March 12, 2013, 07:58:32 AM
I linked and synced my emails with my smart phone.  Anytime a message comes in I get a notification real time and can respond quickly.  No muss, no fuss, and at bed time the phone is turned off until the next morning, it works great for getting a message, text or a call and I don't get disturbed.  cheers.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: AC4BB on March 19, 2013, 07:19:26 AM
frustrated, or annoyed by folks who post on the classifieds with only contact by email, that only check their email weekly.....or never? Maybe I'm just too old-school courteous, and  feel obliged to follow up on ads placed.

 I think that a lot of the time it's more spam e-mail collectors than anything else?


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: KB0OXD on March 25, 2013, 12:25:06 AM
frustrated, or annoyed by folks who post on the classifieds with only contact by email, that only check their email weekly.....or never? Maybe I'm just too old-school courteous, and  feel obliged to follow up on ads placed.
I've given up on trying to maintain an email addy for any conceivable use.  Once you submit to a website for ANYTHING that's not Ham-Related, they'll sell it to the highest bidder if it means keeping the shirts on their backs

Which is why when I'm buying or selling anything that's Ham-Related (Which, thankfully in some ways, is almost never), I much prefer using Twitter.  It has a direct messaging feature.  I can also use APRS messaging as well (But I would use that only for the confirming the sending or receiving of something - NOT to conduct the actual transaction as that's the proverbial grey area/donut hole with regards to Part 97) :)

JMO.....

Cheers & 73 ;D


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W9BB on April 06, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
Seems to be a real problem these days I have noted.  I have responded to no less then 8 individuals selling something and only heard from 1 or 2.  Period.  Even when I went back nothing.  I suppose they aren't serious about selling the item is all I can figure, or like it was posted, they check in 2 weeks or a month.  LOL

Then there is the other situation.  You post something and you get the usual losers that don't have any money and just waste your time "I am seriously interested", "do you still have the item?", "How much were you asking for it".  Well, if one would read the posting, you would see the date, then the description and last but not least, the asking (sale) price.  Pretty simple.  Scares me this nit wits drive cars.  LMFAO.

All kinds but it does seem to be proliferating....


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W0DV on April 08, 2013, 07:27:46 PM
frustrated, or annoyed by folks who post on the classifieds with only contact by email, that only check their email weekly.....or never? Maybe I'm just too old-school courteous, and  feel obliged to follow up on ads placed.


You are just "old school courteous" You should be ashamed of yourself.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W9BB on April 12, 2013, 07:12:01 PM
Know what you mean Allen....I have responded to a host of posting, no answer, PM'd a few, no answer...I don't understand why they post an item for sale and won't even bother answering an inquiry....it is wierd...makes one think they really DON'T want to sell the item or just have poor manners....sign of the times no doubt...


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: K1CJS on April 13, 2013, 04:12:24 AM
Could well be too that they've already sold it and can't be bothered to answer anyone else.  Sadly, all too often, once they've got what they want they don't give a crap about anyone else--not even enough to post a "Sold" notice.


Title: RE: Anyone else aggravated.......
Post by: W9BB on April 14, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
Yeah, run into that a whole lot.  I always respond to anyone with a thank you or whatever, but I respond.  Just commom courtesy.  Gone are those days....