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Title: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 16, 2013, 08:31:27 AM
Here is a "teaser" that has me wondering, guessing and dreaming:

http://dx-world.net/2013/major-dxpedition-announcement-coming-soon/#comments

I need these, so I hope its one of them:

FT/T, FT/Z, KH5K, KP1, E3, VK0/H, FT/G, 3Y0/B, VP8/S

And I'll filter out some that I think are unlikely (or already announced) - and because the "teaser" says the rumors are from US and EU - where that "EU" part makes at least one not likely:

FT/T, FT/Z, KH5K, E3, 3Y0/B, VP8/S

Rather than guess exactly - I'll just hope its one of these. Anything else and it will be a band fill for me. From the press release the other day - we know its not P5 (which I already have anyway).

So I'm playing the "Pick 6" lottery here, and them there is my numbers.

And I am also hoping for some great news at Visalia - where many major dx-peditions have been announced in past years.



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 16, 2013, 09:31:56 AM
I'll pick/wish/hope for ANY of those, but Its probably E3 Or KP1, with an emphasis on Eritrea.  But hey....... what do I know ???

73 Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 16, 2013, 09:36:08 AM
I hope it's BS7!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU4B on March 16, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Since I need 40 of them (assuming its not a major expedition to K, G, or DL  ;D) there's a good chance it would be a new one for me. KP1 would be nice, otherwise I'm going to have to build an antenna this spring.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 16, 2013, 12:05:58 PM
I'm thinking about the hint that US and EU part and so I am going to guess its E3......

I say this because of some posts I read in the "wake" of that Somalia activation last year.

73,

KY6R


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU4B on March 16, 2013, 12:24:50 PM
What about SV/A? I'm just sayin'.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 16, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
I'm guessing it's something that hasn't been on the air in the past ten years.  Does anyone know which ones are these?  Once I see the list I'll make my prediction ;D

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 16, 2013, 02:17:41 PM
What about SV/A? I'm just sayin'.


Yea, what he said!!!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 16, 2013, 05:01:11 PM
I am really SURPRISED it has not "slipped out" by now. :o

Must not be very many in the know.

73, Gene AF3Y

(you know.................... it just might BE P5 :-\)


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 16, 2013, 05:39:19 PM
I am really SURPRISED it has not "slipped out" by now. :o

Must not be very many in the know.

73, Gene AF3Y

(you know.................... it just might BE P5 :-\)

For some reason I do 't think it is. Unless they bring Dennis Rodman along for the ride.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WG5G on March 16, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
Good evenig all, thought I would stir the pot and throw in my 2 cents, a friend of mine called me today and asked if I  had heard the rumor about KP1, I  said no, he told me he heard a group of dxers on 20 mtrs discussing KP1 coming up, so Im adding this to the rumor pot, if so good luck to all that need it, 73 Dan WG5G.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AE5X on March 16, 2013, 06:19:53 PM
I hope it's Delaware. I need DE on 30m.  :D

John AE5X
http://www.ae5x.com/blog



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 16, 2013, 07:03:52 PM
I hope it's not one of those sinking islands in the Pacific ;)

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 16, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
I would guess probably KP1.  Wish it was 3C0, 3Y/B, ZD9, or VP8SS.  All of those would be pretty workable from my QTH, and I need them all.  Don't need KP1 but I guess I would chase them on RTTY.  I hope it doesn't get activated for a while, though.  It is pretty cool having the #2 most needed country, that you worked on a Heathkit SB102 and an indoor dipole.

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6DXO on March 16, 2013, 08:32:36 PM
What about SV/A? I'm just sayin'.

No that would be something!

Gl de harry, W6DXO


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 16, 2013, 08:54:17 PM
I would guess probably KP1.  Wish it was 3C0, 3Y/B, ZD9, or VP8SS. 

All of these with the exception of South Shetland have been QRV within the last 5 years. In fact 3C0 and ZD9 were active last year.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU4B on March 16, 2013, 09:06:33 PM
I would guess probably KP1.  Wish it was 3C0, 3Y/B, ZD9, or VP8SS. 

All of these with the exception of South Shetland have been QRV within the last 5 years. In fact 3C0 and ZD9 were active last year.

I don't think KP1 has been activated in the last 5 years - unless I was in a coma at the time. Sometimes a major expedition doesn't mean its a top 10 entity or that it hasn't been activated recently.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 16, 2013, 09:24:16 PM
I would guess probably KP1.  Wish it was 3C0, 3Y/B, ZD9, or VP8SS. 

All of these with the exception of South Shetland have been QRV within the last 5 years. In fact 3C0 and ZD9 were active last year.

I think he meant South Georgia.  South Shetland is very active and South Orkney was recently activated.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 16, 2013, 10:38:18 PM
I actually meant South Sandwich, it is the rarest VP8.  I have the other ones.

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 16, 2013, 10:46:43 PM
Which entities haven't been activated in the past 10 years?  The ones I can think of for sure are: KP1, KH5K, VP8SS, VK0H, FR/T, FT/Z, P5, E3, EZ

The couple I am not sure are: PY0T, BV9P


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 17, 2013, 12:48:58 AM
Which entities haven't been activated in the past 10 years?  The ones I can think of for sure are: KP1, KH5K, VP8SS, VK0H, FR/T, FT/Z, P5, E3, EZ

The couple I am not sure are: PY0T, BV9P

Oops, I forgot about South Sandwich.  As for BV9P the last activation was in 2003.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: M0TTB on March 17, 2013, 01:31:49 AM
Which entities haven't been activated in the past 10 years?  The ones I can think of for sure are: KP1, KH5K, VP8SS, VK0H, FR/T, FT/Z, P5, E3, EZ

The couple I am not sure are: PY0T, BV9P

PY0T Trindade was active in 2011


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: IK0OZD on March 17, 2013, 02:46:18 AM
    
guys have you thought about Mount Athos recently visited by big dxpeditioner's


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AE5X on March 17, 2013, 05:38:53 AM
   
guys have you thought about Mount Athos recently visited by big dxpeditioner's

I have ;-)
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2013/03/16/im-betting-its-sva-mount-athos/

John AE5X


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 17, 2013, 07:24:04 AM
I guess that I forgot about KH1 in terms of entities not activated in the past 10 years.  I think South Georgia has been, but wouldn't swear to it.

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 17, 2013, 07:27:26 AM
   
guys have you thought about Mount Athos recently visited by big dxpeditioner's

I have ;-)
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2013/03/16/im-betting-its-sva-mount-athos/

John AE5X


I think it would be foolish to spend a bunch of $$ activating an entity which is ALREADY QRV at least once a month or so. The funds would be much better used on one of the TOP 10 entities which have not been active for 10 years or so.

If my memory serves me correctly, Father Apollo was upset before, and did not like ONE other ham operating from Mt. Athos............ Do you think he would be happy with a team there?
I know he does not run the show at the Monastary (excepting the radio), but I just doubt if.

Obviously, I am biased, having worked the Monk. But, if I can work that one with a wire vertical, how come you guys with your tons of metal up there cant get it done? ITS TIMING....... I got LUCKY and got him before the pileup.  I know it!!  But then again, TWICE?  Nah, had to be a bit of DX MOJO. hi hi

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 17, 2013, 07:32:48 AM
I would guess probably KP1.  Wish it was 3C0, 3Y/B, ZD9, or VP8SS. 

All of these with the exception of South Shetland have been QRV within the last 5 years. In fact 3C0 and ZD9 were active last year.

I don't think KP1 has been activated in the last 5 years - unless I was in a coma at the time. Sometimes a major expedition doesn't mean its a top 10 entity or that it hasn't been activated recently.

I didn't mean KP1. I meant those that he wished it was. I know KP1 hasn't been active.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: IK0OZD on March 17, 2013, 08:11:21 AM
   
guys have you thought about Mount Athos recently visited by big dxpeditioner's

I have ;-)
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2013/03/16/im-betting-its-sva-mount-athos/

John AE5X


I think it would be foolish to spend a bunch of $$ activating an entity which is ALREADY QRV at least once a month or so. The funds would be much better used on one of the TOP 10 entities which have not been active for 10 years or so.

If my memory serves me correctly, Father Apollo was upset before, and did not like ONE other ham operating from Mt. Athos............ Do you think he would be happy with a team there?
I know he does not run the show at the Monastary (excepting the radio), but I just doubt if.

Obviously, I am biased, having worked the Monk. But, if I can work that one with a wire vertical, how come you guys with your tons of metal up there cant get it done? ITS TIMING....... I got LUCKY and got him before the pileup.  I know it!!  But then again, TWICE?  Nah, had to be a bit of DX MOJO. hi hi

73, Gene AF3Y


ciao Gene

I have prayed and crossed all my fingers because is not Monthe Athos,
very much agree with you. If there is to pull off some money is good to do it with something more substantial,
for europe SV2/A is the same as for you KP4,
Then there is a statement on dxworld of N6PSE that seems to exclude this:


Paul N6PSE says:
March 17, 2013 at 14:00
I would love to do another fine DXpedition with YT1AD and K3LP. We have been working very hard to get permission to activate rare entities, however the permission has not come to us yet. I’m sorry but we have nothing to announce. We hope that changes soon.





Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 17, 2013, 11:45:58 AM
I'm betting it's either KP1 or one of the KH islands in the Pacific under USFW control.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 17, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
Now that I saw Paul, N6PSE's post, I'm guessing its Tromelin or Amsterdam/St. Paul.

I say this because its been a while since the French team has activated a TAAF or Meteo site.

73,

Rich
KY6R


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 17, 2013, 03:19:43 PM
Hope it is not FT/Z.  Not sure the XYL will let me buy a TH-7 and a 100 foot tower to get them,

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: VE3YF on March 17, 2013, 03:47:38 PM
Now that I saw Paul, N6PSE's post, I'm guessing its Tromelin or Amsterdam/St. Paul.

I say this because its been a while since the French team has activated a TAAF or Meteo site.

73,

Rich
KY6R

Rich:

I sure hope you are right, anything around FR/G, FR/T, FT5/W, FT5/X and FT5/Z would be ATNO for me. I haven't worked any of them in any mode. Perhaps with the stars being aligned and my fingers and toes crossed I can make the Honor Roll this year, only need 2.

Good Luck to everyone and that the announcement will be in their favour.

73 De Mike
VE3YF


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 17, 2013, 03:51:20 PM
Any quasi rare one will be an ATNO for me. I just hope the ops are safe and have a great trip. See everyone in the pile ups.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 17, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
Are some of the other French Islands activated by "Military Only", like Glorioso was?

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AE5X on March 17, 2013, 04:35:32 PM
What do you guys make of the comment by Monk Yiosakis (scroll al the way down):
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2013/03/16/im-betting-its-sva-mount-athos/

The IP address from which the comment was sent indicates Germany.

John AE5X


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 17, 2013, 04:47:55 PM
What do you guys make of the comment by Monk Yiosakis (scroll al the way down):
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2013/03/16/im-betting-its-sva-mount-athos/

The IP address from which the comment was sent indicates Germany.

John AE5X


With all due respect I seriously doubt any real Monk is reading your blog.  But I have to ask you this question, what gave you the idea that Mt. Athos will be activated?  Although I really want this one I don't think it will be activated.  As someone said earlier SV2/A to the EU is like KP4 to the US.  The money should be put somewhere else where there has been no activation for a long time.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AE5X on March 17, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
My thoughts exactly - well, maybe this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monk_(TV_series)


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 17, 2013, 05:10:58 PM
What do you guys make of the comment by Monk Yiosakis (scroll al the way down):
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2013/03/16/im-betting-its-sva-mount-athos/

The IP address from which the comment was sent indicates Germany.

John AE5X


With all due respect I seriously doubt any real Monk is reading your blog.  But I have to ask you this question, what gave you the idea that Mt. Athos will be activated?  Although I really want this one I don't think it will be activated.  As someone said earlier SV2/A to the EU is like KP4 to the US.  The money should be put somewhere else where there has been no activation for a long time.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

I am with Johnathan on this one.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AE5X on March 17, 2013, 05:22:47 PM
Maybe it's from M0NK, an English callsign... ;D

I agree with you both but am more interested in the content than the claimed identity - sounds plausible but we'll know soon enogh. Lots of possible ATNOs out there would make me a Happy Camper.

John AE5X


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 17, 2013, 05:54:38 PM
I think its Tromelin, because:

1) Paul, N6PSE's post on DX World - knocks out SV/A
2) E3 is still too dangerous - I am sure of this
3) It ain't Kingman - that will be deleted "pretty soon" and no one will activate it since that delete rumor is now 13 years old. I think it really will be deleted and combined with Palmyra within 2 years - but I'm talking purely out of my *ss
4) It ain't P5 - things are MUCH worse than when K6VVA posted his first post on trying to activate that - and now calls it a "mountain" he is chipping away at instead of a stone. Plus - who would go to islands during S. Korea and US "maneuvers" in that area - with real shelling going on? Only Dennis Rodman and Eric Schmidt could pull this off . . . and they aren't hams
5) The one guy who told me he was working on FT/Z  - well, lets skip that one

The wildcard is Palmyra - but I very seriously doubt that.

The only entity or entities that don't seem to have rumors why they WON'T be activated soon - are French entities.

Hey - this is a guessing game, right?


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 17, 2013, 06:16:14 PM
I think its Tromelin, because:

1) Paul, N6PSE's post on DX World - knocks out SV/A
2) E3 is still too dangerous - I am sure of this
3) It ain't Kingman - that will be deleted "pretty soon" and no one will activate it since that delete rumor is now 13 years old. I think it really will be deleted and combined with Palmyra within 2 years - but I'm talking purely out of my *ss
4) It ain't P5 - things are MUCH worse than when K6VVA posted his first post on trying to activate that - and now calls it a "mountain" he is chipping away at instead of a stone. Plus - who would go to islands during S. Korea and US "maneuvers" in that area - with real shelling going on? Only Dennis Rodman and Eric Schmidt could pull this off . . . and they aren't hams
5) The one guy who told me he was working on FT/Z  - well, lets skip that one

The wildcard is Palmyra - but I very seriously doubt that.

The only entity or entities that don't seem to have rumors why they WON'T be activated soon - are French entities.

Hey - this is a guessing game, right?

Agreed....... EXCEPT that you did not mention KP1.  I think they have that one wrapped up and ready to go. ;).  Believe they have just been waiting for the go ahead. (I hope......) ::)

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 17, 2013, 06:20:28 PM
KP1 would make me very happy. With any luck it would e almost as easy as TX5K


On a side note, this one seems to make the most sense.  I have a hunch Rich knows what one it is already but has been sworn to secrecy. Him leaving this obvious one out would make sense if he already knew what it was.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 17, 2013, 07:15:36 PM
KP1 would make me very happy. With any luck it would e almost as easy as TX5K


On a side note, this one seems to make the most sense.  I have a hunch Rich knows what one it is already but has been sworn to secrecy. Him leaving this obvious one out would make sense if he already knew what it was.

I actually don't know - I'm just having fun guessing. One thing I can say - and it just repeats what Paul, N6PSE has posted quite a few times and that is:

"Most of the top entities are being worked on by someone".

I have even found that with some of the Top 10 entities that there are 2 groups working on activating it - meaning - there is even competition in some cases.

Once I learned this - I stopped worrying about exactly when _some entity _ might be activated.

Of course - with Col's "teaser" on DX World - my mind is running wild. Dreaming is what they call it -  ;D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 17, 2013, 07:17:26 PM
Are some of the other French Islands activated by "Military Only", like Glorioso was?

73, Gene AF3Y

Tromelin is "Military Only". I had a blast working TO4E on several bands - but never even heard FT5GA. But Tromelin is loooooong overdue!

These all require Military Creds and a Military Air flight to get there.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 17, 2013, 07:21:12 PM
Although I really want this one I don't think it will be activated.  As someone said earlier SV2/A to the EU is like KP4 to the US.

Except that there is one operator in SV2/A and how many in KP4?  K5D seemed pretty popular a couple of years ago and that is like KP4 to the US.

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KH6DC on March 17, 2013, 11:24:10 PM
Anywhere would be welcomed


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K7CO on March 18, 2013, 01:26:34 PM
My winning guess is Bouvet

My contender guess is Baker and Howland

My dark horse guess is Myanmar



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 18, 2013, 07:09:37 PM
My guesses would be either Amsterdam/St. Paul or Crozet; possibly Tromelin but I think that teaser would have come out of France. KP1 would be nice but I'm not holding my breath. Failing any of the above, then I'd put a few chips on either Pratas or Myanmar, with the edge being Pratas.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 18, 2013, 07:48:55 PM
My winning guess is Bouvet

My contender guess is Baker and Howland

My dark horse guess is Myanmar



I sure hope you are the winner with Bouvet!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 19, 2013, 09:40:15 AM
It's now Tuesday and no new news.  I'm checking DX-World every five minutes or between working ATNOs, whichever is sooner :D

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 19, 2013, 10:03:22 AM
I don't want it to be Bouvet... Give me one I actually need!  ;D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 19, 2013, 10:51:28 AM
Yes!  Last week's "Next Week" is NOW

Where is the announcement? My (and probably others) patience is rapidly waning...... ::)

73, Gene AF3Y

I STILL think its gonna be E3, with Navassa my second choice.
Either/or would be just fine with me. 8)


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: M0TTB on March 19, 2013, 10:56:28 AM
Yes!  Last week's "Next Week" is NOW

Where is the announcement? My (and probably others) patience is rapidly waning...... ::)

73, Gene AF3Y

I STILL think its gonna be E3, with Navassa my second choice.
Either/or would be just fine with me. 8)

I don't think this will be a mainland dxcc, I strongly suspect it will be a far off island with huge expenses involved.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 19, 2013, 11:02:42 AM

I don't think this will be a mainland dxcc, I strongly suspect it will be a far off island with huge expenses involved.

I dont know though............  Hey, you never know.....  they could be raising antennas as we type, in ERITREA.

Perhaps when I get home from the beach, the cluster will be saturated with E3 calls and DX alarms going off. hi hi  8)

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU4B on March 19, 2013, 11:17:57 AM
Well in the latest update of the announcement announcing the announcement are these key words:

this week "or slightly later".


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 19, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
Well in the latest update of the announcement announcing the announcement are these key words:

this week "or slightly later".

I hope this is NOT an April's Fool's joke.

Could someone in the know at least confirm that this is true without revealing the entity?  The wait is killing me.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on March 19, 2013, 11:26:07 AM
It's not an April Fool's. I am unable to say any more, but info will be revealed soon enough. It was initially supposed to be Monday or Tuesday this week, but I'm hearing 7-10 days could also be the time-frame. Hang in there !

GL

Col, MM0NDX @ DX World.net


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 19, 2013, 11:44:59 AM
It was initially supposed to be Monday or Tuesday this week, but I'm hearing 7-10 days could also be the time-frame. Hang in there !

GL

Col, MM0NDX @ DX World.net

"Initially supposed to be Monday or Tuesday"
Taking longer than thought to get there and get set up than originally estimated.

I think when this one pops up, its going to be balls to the wall.

Remember the last SURPRISE expediton?  E3 still at the top of my list.

Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N6PSE on March 19, 2013, 12:49:27 PM
I'm pretty sure it won't be Eritrea.  We have been negotiating with them for several years with little progress. We made two visits to Asmara.

This past January, they had a Coup attempt where the Ministry of Information was taken over and is suspected of being involved.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/world/africa/coup-attempt-fails-in-eritrea.html?_r=0

Basically, no one in the Eritrean government trusts each other and this prevents good things from happening. They have a on-going border war with Ethiopia and they have no need or desire for tourism. They won't allow any non Eritreans leave Asmara for surrounding areas.   Things are pretty bleak in Eritrea at the moment.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K7CO on March 19, 2013, 01:06:33 PM
The news article makes my qso in 2000 all that more special.

Interesting article, sad that so many have to suffer.

73
Jon
k7co


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 19, 2013, 02:28:18 PM
I'm pretty sure it won't be Eritrea.  We have been negotiating with them for several years with little progress. We made two visits to Asmara.

This past January, they had a Coup attempt where the Ministry of Information was taken over and is suspected of being involved.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/world/africa/coup-attempt-fails-in-eritrea.html?_r=0

Basically, no one in the Eritrean government trusts each other and this prevents good things from happening. They have a on-going border war with Ethiopia and they have no need or desire for tourism. They won't allow any non Eritreans leave Asmara for surrounding areas.   Things are pretty bleak in Eritrea at the moment.

Yeah, I am sure you are right, I guess its just wishful thinking on my part. hi hi

73 Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 19, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
Here's another wildassed dark-horse theory...a special-issuance goodwill license for Turkmenistan.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU4B on March 19, 2013, 03:12:12 PM
Here's another wildassed dark-horse theory...a special-issuance goodwill license for Turkmenistan.

That would be a real kick in the you know what for the local hams.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 19, 2013, 03:14:55 PM
Here's another wildassed dark-horse theory...a special-issuance goodwill license for Turkmenistan.
That IS pretty wild. hi

 I guess since I have been talked out of Eritrea, I am right back to KP1.

Gene AF3Y



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 19, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
I guess since I have been talked out of Eritrea, I am right back to KP1.

I'm not so sure about KP1, though I'd obviously be thrilled at the prospect. With the current bunch of greenie-weenies in Washington, I don't see them doing any favours to hams. I'd love to be proved wrong, of course, but my guesses are all elsewhere for this "big one." Just hoping it's not something that's seen modest activity since 2010 or 2011.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: VK3HJ on March 20, 2013, 05:38:40 AM
Guessing is pointless.
I hope to read the announcement soon, before 1 April!
Luke VK3HJ


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 20, 2013, 06:04:50 AM
IF the team were not already there and setting up antennas, and IF the trip is actually a ways off, WHY the delay in the announcement......?  It should not matter :-\

Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 20, 2013, 06:49:25 AM
I think because you need military access and transportation to some of the French TAAF's and Meteo sites, and that you have to be ready to go in a moment's notice that its Tromelin.

If not Tromelin, another French entity.

Not to mention, FT5GA was 5 years ago.

The DXCC Sleuth......


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 20, 2013, 07:00:59 AM
I guess since I have been talked out of Eritrea, I am right back to KP1.

I'm not so sure about KP1, though I'd obviously be thrilled at the prospect. With the current bunch of greenie-weenies in Washington, I don't see them doing any favours to hams. I'd love to be proved wrong, of course, but my guesses are all elsewhere for this "big one." Just hoping it's not something that's seen modest activity since 2010 or 2011.

What if a USFWS employee was doing the DXPedition and inviting a few friends along?


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K7KB on March 20, 2013, 08:40:52 AM
What if a USFWS employee was doing the DXPedition and inviting a few friends along?

You never know!! I mean if a guy would go to the extreme of joining the Coast Guard just to put Kure Island on the air, you can imagine what a dedicated ham might do to bring Navassa to the masses :)

John K7KB


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 20, 2013, 10:02:12 AM
I had thought about another Microlite Penguins dxpeditions.  However after learning that it cost $5 per QSO at South Orkney I'm not too sure now...

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K0AP on March 20, 2013, 02:02:47 PM
Something is telling me that it's going to be Bouvet island 3Y/B.

73 Dragan K0AP


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 20, 2013, 03:23:20 PM
Something is telling me that it's going to be Bouvet island 3Y/B.

73 Dragan K0AP

Let's hope it's a buy one get two free deal from the boat operator (Bouvet, South Sandwich, and South Georgia) ;D   This will make one historical IOTA tour.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 20, 2013, 03:46:07 PM
I reiterate, please, not Bouvet! A fair number of guys worked 3Y0E quite easily a few years back. Bandfills would be nice, but there are so many entities down in that part of the world that haven't seen an activation in at least 12-15 years and need a DXpedition far more than Bouvet does.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N6PSE on March 20, 2013, 03:54:01 PM
Bouvet is the #3 most wanted entity behind P5 and KP1.   Plenty enough reasons to activate it for the many thousands of DXers who still need their first contact with Bouvet.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU4B on March 20, 2013, 04:05:16 PM
  ;D Hmmmm.... I don't have these problems. I'll take anything. Heck I'll take a big operation from A9. (If I hear another A9 run all EU I'm going to scream!  ;D) I think there was a big one when I was off the air.

In any case I hope you guys will be happy with wherever this thing is - because I'll probably need it anyway.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: EI2GLB on March 20, 2013, 04:36:05 PM
Sorry but that's a poor attitude, there a lots of us who aren't active that long and would be very excited to see 3Y active,

No matter where they go you won't please everyone but #3 would be a good place to go,

I heard this is going to be a big budget outing >$1million maybe,so it's more than likely down there somewhere,

Trevor
EI2GLB

I reiterate, please, not Bouvet! A fair number of guys worked 3Y0E quite easily a few years back. Bandfills would be nice, but there are so many entities down in that part of the world that haven't seen an activation in at least 12-15 years and need a DXpedition far more than Bouvet does.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 20, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
3Y0E made "About 1500 QSO's", which for a #3 entity is not much of a dent.

Wow - if its a $1 million dollar DX-ped - I need to talk to them . . .


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: VK3HJ on March 20, 2013, 04:53:08 PM
I had thought about another Microlite Penguins dxpeditions.  However after learning that it cost $5 per QSO at South Orkney I'm not too sure now...

73,
Jonathan W6GX

$5 is fine, if one is needing the confirmation. I never send less than $5 for OQRS anyway.

If the Penguins do another VP8/x, I hope it is around December. I did not hear a peep from them on VP8ORK, which was apparently a very good DXpedition.

And although SV/A is apparently QRV about monthly, because the operator there seems to disregard the "rest of the world" DX, there may as well be nobody there.

Wherever this yet to be announced DXpedition will be, it will be useful to somebody, and at the very least, a Marathon point for my 2013 quest. (Unless it is a VP8/x before the end of the year.)
73, es GL,
Luke VK3HJ


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 20, 2013, 05:15:34 PM
With the group we have here, someone will probably be disapointed at the destination. For instance, I dont need Glorioso, I do need Bouvet.... etc. etc.  I dont need Mt. Athos, and John (as well as others) needs it. I dont think any of us have all 340.....

So..... I guess we will just have to make the most of it.  I have only worked a couple of the top 20, so its a good chance of an ATNO for me. I hope its something we ALL need ;D.

I just wish they would hurry up.  When God was handing out patience, I was over in the brains and looks lines :D. hi hi

73, Gene AF3Y



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 20, 2013, 05:20:23 PM

If the Penguins do another VP8/x, I hope it is around December. I did not hear a peep from them on VP8ORK, which was apparently a very good DXpedition.

73, es GL,
Luke VK3HJ

I snagged VP8ORK on 12 CW and 40 CW, but they were always VERY weak each time I could hear them.  I read somewhere they dont use amps?  That seems strange, at least to me. ::)

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N6PSE on March 20, 2013, 05:57:46 PM
VP8ORK did use amps. I think the problem was that they planned to place their antennas at the oceans edge, however the giant sea lions and think piles of poop forced the antennas to be further from the waters edge.   Their signals were very weak on the West Coast, however the Ops were superb.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K0AP on March 20, 2013, 06:42:46 PM
The last multi-national (big) dxpedition to Bouvet island was back in 1990 (3Y5X). They logged about 50k Qso's. So, I hope my predictions are right and after 23 years we will have the next big operation from Bouvet island. A dream may come true for many of us, regardless of what few other people desire. I found this interesting link with history and pictures from 3Y5X Bouvet island operation.

http://www.qsl.net/k5mb/bouvet_island.html

What a place, huh?

73 Dragan K0AP



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 20, 2013, 07:31:48 PM
VP8ORK did use amps. I think the problem was that they planned to place their antennas at the oceans edge, however the giant sea lions and think piles of poop forced the antennas to be further from the waters edge.   Their signals were very weak on the West Coast, however the Ops were superb.

They also had an obstructed path to NA.  I recall the number of contacts to NA was quite low.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 20, 2013, 07:44:21 PM
3Y0E made "About 1500 QSO's", which for a #3 entity is not much of a dent.

I'm sure it was a lot more than that, although I don't have his stats handy. Where did you come up with that low a number? I thought I read it was closer to 10k, but I could be mistaken. It WAS a long time ago! Still, 1500 more than we've seen from Tromelin, Crozet or Amsterdam. I'd put the cut-off at 10 years, even, including a bunch of stuff I don't have...so it's not about my desires, personally. That would rule out San Felix, South Georgia, South Sandwich and a bunch of others. For a mil-plus, I really, honestly hope they go somewhere that this generation of DXers hasn't had the opportunity to work, period. Gildas on Crozet for an hour doesn't count, either.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 20, 2013, 07:59:24 PM
l'll ask a tough question.  Put yourself in the shoes of the dxpeditioner.  Would you spend $1M on an ultra rare entity or would you spend $1M on ten different entities in the top 50?  The latter has the potential of giving ATNOs to a greater number of hams.  Now put yourself in the shoes of the dx'er.  Would you rather have one ultra rare entity or five semi-rare entity?  The latter would help you reach HR sooner.  Assume you have worked 300 entities.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K0AP on March 20, 2013, 08:17:57 PM
3Y0E made "About 1500 QSO's", which for a #3 entity is not much of a dent.

I'm sure it was a lot more than that, although I don't have his stats handy. Where did you come up with that low a number? I thought I read it was closer to 10k, but I could be mistaken. It WAS a long time ago! Still, 1500 more than we've seen from Tromelin, Crozet or Amsterdam. I'd put the cut-off at 10 years, even, including a bunch of stuff I don't have...so it's not about my desires, personally. That would rule out San Felix, South Georgia, South Sandwich and a bunch of others. For a mil-plus, I really, honestly hope they go somewhere that this generation of DXers hasn't had the opportunity to work, periodj. Gildas on Crozet for an hour doesn't count, either.

Just my opinion but activating CE0X and few others you mentioned is like a walk to the park compared to activating Bouvet. Thus it's #3 on the most wanted list.

73 Dragan K0AP


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 20, 2013, 08:24:57 PM
l'll ask a tough question.  Put yourself in the shoes of the dxpeditioner.  Would you spend $1M on an ultra rare entity or would you spend $1M on ten different entities in the top 50?  The latter has the potential of giving ATNOs to a greater number of hams.  Now put yourself in the shoes of the dx'er.  Would you rather have one ultra rare entity or five semi-rare entity?  The latter would help you reach HR sooner.  Assume you have worked 300 entities.

I'd rather have one major one. P5, KP1, etc. Something insanely hard. Many in the top-50 are activated at least semi-regularly. Imagine you just missed Peter the First after the last DXpedition. It may well be 25 or more years before that one comes on again, if ever in our lifetimes due to escalating costs versus need. Or 7O. I missed P5 and regret not doing more to work him; that may be the last one I'll ever need to work if the little insane child keeps throwing nuclear-themed temper tantrums. Yeah, I'll take one big one any day of the week.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 20, 2013, 08:36:33 PM
l'll ask a tough question.  Put yourself in the shoes of the dxpeditioner.  Would you spend $1M on an ultra rare entity or would you spend $1M on ten different entities in the top 50?  The latter has the potential of giving ATNOs to a greater number of hams.  Now put yourself in the shoes of the dx'er.  Would you rather have one ultra rare entity or five semi-rare entity?  The latter would help you reach HR sooner.  Assume you have worked 300 entities.

I'd rather have one major one. P5, KP1, etc. Something insanely hard. Many in the top-50 are activated at least semi-regularly. Imagine you just missed Peter the First after the last DXpedition. It may well be 25 or more years before that one comes on again, if ever in our lifetimes due to escalating costs versus need. Or 7O. I missed P5 and regret not doing more to work him; that may be the last one I'll ever need to work if the little insane child keeps throwing nuclear-themed temper tantrums. Yeah, I'll take one big one any day of the week.

I guess it depends on what is your goal.  If your goal is #1 HR then yes you need P5.  But if you really want HR would you give up P5 for five ATNOs (which for you they will be very rare anyways but not as rare as P5)?

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 20, 2013, 09:02:22 PM
3Y0E made "About 1500 QSO's", which for a #3 entity is not much of a dent.

I'm sure it was a lot more than that, although I don't have his stats handy. Where did you come up with that low a number? I thought I read it was closer to 10k, but I could be mistaken. It WAS a long time ago! Still, 1500 more than we've seen from Tromelin, Crozet or Amsterdam. I'd put the cut-off at 10 years, even, including a bunch of stuff I don't have...so it's not about my desires, personally. That would rule out San Felix, South Georgia, South Sandwich and a bunch of others. For a mil-plus, I really, honestly hope they go somewhere that this generation of DXers hasn't had the opportunity to work, period. Gildas on Crozet for an hour doesn't count, either.

I got that number from Col, MM0NDX - when he was the web master / blog master for Petrus and 3Y0E.

My guess is that Tromelin or Amsterdam would actually be the two that most everyone needs these days - certainly anyone who started DX-ing in 2000 or later. All of the rest have had at least some activity - even if just a little.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 20, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
I got that number from Col, MM0NDX - when he was the web master / blog master for Petrus and 3Y0E.

My guess is that Tromelin or Amsterdam would actually be the two that most everyone needs these days - certainly anyone who started DX-ing in 2000 or later. All of the rest have had at least some activity - even if just a little.

OK, I stand corrected about 3Y0E, but I still think that were 7-figures are to be spent, best to consider something that nobody's even had a chance at in all that time. But it ain't up to me, so there. I need Bouvet on 8 bands and 2 modes, but sitting 4 back of H.R. makes it all the more interesting on a personal level. South Orkney happened the same way for me. I worked a small outpost a year or so before the big DXpedition and I was crushed when I saw that chunk of change going to what would not be an ATNO for me. I'm hoping this isn't deja vu all over again.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 20, 2013, 09:12:04 PM
Kingman Reef would trump all of these for me . . . .

but I very seriously doubt it. No one wants to activate something that has been rumored that it is going to be deleted - for the last 13 years. It should be renamed "Limbo Reef" . .


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 20, 2013, 09:37:50 PM
I worked a small outpost a year or so before the big DXpedition and I was crushed when I saw that chunk of change going to what would not be an ATNO for me. I'm hoping this isn't deja vu all over again.

Unfortunately when you get 'up there' you will have more disappointments than joy when it comes to dxpedition announcements.  And don't be surprised if the $1M goes to Bouvet.

73,
Jonathan W6GX



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 20, 2013, 09:40:05 PM
$5 is fine, if one is needing the confirmation. I never send less than $5 for OQRS anyway.

The $5 figure is NOT for a QSL.  It's for each QSO made.  That's how expensive it is to go to a VP8.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 20, 2013, 09:42:25 PM
Kingman Reef would trump all of these for me . . . .

but I very seriously doubt it. No one wants to activate something that has been rumored that it is going to be deleted - for the last 13 years. It should be renamed "Limbo Reef" . .

FWIW I don't think Kingman will be deleted.  If it really meets the deletion criteria it would have been done years ago.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: VK3HJ on March 21, 2013, 07:27:57 AM
The $5 figure is NOT for a QSL.  It's for each QSO made.  That's how expensive it is to go to a VP8.
73,
Jonathan W6GX

I already know that is a figure indicative of the cost of the DXpedition, not what is charged per QSO.  I don't mind at all supporting a DXpedition I feel I have "got my money's worth", i.e. multiple bands, or ATNO, with a lot more than the requested fee for a QSL. You can see I've supported many of the DXpeditions over the past 5 year or so. And I put myself in the "hot seat" somewhere each year over the same period.
The VP8s are all directly over the south pole from here, so if VP8LP in Falkland I is any indication, I can only expect to hear them for a few months around late Spring - early Summer, i.e., Oct-Jan.
The best I might hope for is maybe Honor Roll. I've left it too late to work the entire list. 9BDXCC is just about in sight.
Geez, this is dragging on - the suspense is "killing" us!
Wherever this DXpedition will be, it will add value to the DX game.
73,
Luke Vk3HJ


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 21, 2013, 07:29:58 AM
VP8ORK did use amps. I think the problem was that they planned to place their antennas at the oceans edge, however the giant sea lions and think piles of poop forced the antennas to be further from the waters edge.   Their signals were very weak on the West Coast, however the Ops were superb.

Thanks for that info Paul.  WOW......... GIANT piles of GIANT sea lion POOP:o.
Sounds like you would need hip boots to get down to waters edge :-\

The things that we DXers go through to offer up or to get an ATNO. hi hi

73, Gene AF3Y





Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 21, 2013, 07:35:18 AM
If the rumor is true that this is a $1M+ dxpedition.  And you have Heard at $1.3M+.  Are we confident that the pending dxpedition has raised enough money to make it a sure thing?  Or will they start raising money after the announcement is made?  As far I know Heard is not a sure thing.  The fundraising for it has just started.  Let's not put the cart ahead of the horse...

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 21, 2013, 07:37:20 AM
The $5 figure is NOT for a QSL.  It's for each QSO made.  That's how expensive it is to go to a VP8.
73,
Jonathan W6GX

I already know that is a figure indicative of the cost of the DXpedition, not what is charged per QSO.  I don't mind at all supporting a DXpedition I feel I have "got my money's worth", i.e. multiple bands, or ATNO, with a lot more than the requested fee for a QSL. You can see I've supported many of the DXpeditions over the past 5 year or so. And I put myself in the "hot seat" somewhere each year over the same period.
The VP8s are all directly over the south pole from here, so if VP8LP in Falkland I is any indication, I can only expect to hear them for a few months around late Spring - early Summer, i.e., Oct-Jan.
The best I might hope for is maybe Honor Roll. I've left it too late to work the entire list. 9BDXCC is just about in sight.
Geez, this is dragging on - the suspense is "killing" us!
Wherever this DXpedition will be, it will add value to the DX game.
73,
Luke Vk3HJ


Hi Luke,

Thanks for supporting the many dxpeditions.  I feel the same way you do.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N5MOA on March 21, 2013, 07:47:15 AM
VP8ORK did use amps. I think the problem was that they planned to place their antennas at the oceans edge, however the giant sea lions and think piles of poop forced the antennas to be further from the waters edge.   Their signals were very weak on the West Coast, however the Ops were superb.

They also had an obstructed path to NA.  I recall the number of contacts to NA was quite low.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Their log is still on ClubLog.  63643 qsos,  23542 with NA. I don't remember how their signals were, but they weren't too hard to work /m.


It doesn't matter much to me where this mystery dxpedition is going. Since it seems to be such a secret, I probably haven't worked it, and if I have, I probably need band fills.

Someone going somewhere is good enough for me.

Good luck working whoever it is going where ever it is they are going.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KB3LIX on March 21, 2013, 08:18:57 AM
I must have been VERY LUCKY with VP8ORK !

I show 30cw, 40ph, 40cw & 30rtty


I don't care where they are going, chances are I NEED IT.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N1UK on March 21, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
VP8ORK were pretty loud and workable here

3Y5X was incredible...it is still my only single 3Y  QSO 20m ssb. 4 Jan 1990. calling just for 9's the split was 100 KHz wide.....impossible to spot. I was an N9 then. I have a better station now but was running a 922A into a Mosley CL-33 at 60 feet then.


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6UV on March 21, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
VP8ORK did use amps. I think the problem was that they planned to place their antennas at the oceans edge, however the giant sea lions and think piles of poop forced the antennas to be further from the waters edge.   Their signals were very weak on the West Coast, however the Ops were superb.

They also had an obstructed path to NA.  I recall the number of contacts to NA was quite low.

Their signals were very readable here in NorCal. I managed to work them on both phone and CW with 100 watts and a ground-mounted vertical (with no radials).


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 21, 2013, 11:49:02 AM
VP8ORK was very easily worked on east coast; got them 10-160 and three modes. Never need another VP8/o again, unless it's for a Marathon point.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 21, 2013, 11:54:24 AM
l'll ask a tough question.  Put yourself in the shoes of the dxpeditioner.  Would you spend $1M on an ultra rare entity or would you spend $1M on ten different entities in the top 50?  The latter has the potential of giving ATNOs to a greater number of hams.  Now put yourself in the shoes of the dx'er.  Would you rather have one ultra rare entity or five semi-rare entity?  The latter would help you reach HR sooner.  Assume you have worked 300 entities.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

As a DX-er, I would one Ultra Rare over 10 semi rare.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WD4ELG on March 21, 2013, 11:01:28 PM
Was 3Y5X the dxped where everybody was calling on 20  up and down the band and the op would just tune in and swoop down on a caller to work him and then move on? If that was the event, it was total chaos. I hope that never happens again that way. Apologies if I have it confused.  That one almost pushed me away from ever using SSB.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 22, 2013, 04:19:52 AM
New thought on this one.

When the amazing 7O6T was activated last year the rumors and lack of verifiable information was very much like this. Whatever is getting activated must have the same security risks.

That being said Navassa would still be the one I want to see activated.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: IK0OZD on March 22, 2013, 04:56:59 AM
and why not a combination?

KP1 and KP5


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 22, 2013, 07:52:52 AM

When the amazing 7O6T was activated last year the rumors and lack of verifiable information was very much like this. Whatever is getting activated must have the same security risks.


SO......... This is what led me to think its E3.

Still not convinced its not E3 (sorry Paul.......) :D.

Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 22, 2013, 07:55:11 AM
and why not a combination?

KP1 and KP5


Too early for KP5...... Activated in 2009.

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 22, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
i got a phone call this morning....... From an OLD ham type guy who sez this group will be in a dangerous and WET location.  Does that mean lots of RAIN, or ..............?  Nah, they would not be going back there....... would they ???

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 22, 2013, 08:50:13 AM
Hope not, but I sure wouldn't turn down a few bandfills from there either. Still it's only been six years....


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 22, 2013, 08:53:04 AM
I don't think it's BS7H but I need it!

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N1UK on March 22, 2013, 10:36:17 AM
I would like BS7H. I missed Ducie last time around as well


Mark N1UK


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU4B on March 22, 2013, 10:41:34 AM
Well, its Friday. I guess "slightly later" is now in play.  ;D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 22, 2013, 10:51:17 AM
Well, its Friday. I guess "slightly later" is now in play.  ;D

Friday's are really great days to make big exciting announcements too!  ;D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 22, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
Well, its Friday. I guess "slightly later" is now in play.  ;D

The week is not over yet!  Btw, where would the press release go?  To my email inbox? :D  I thought DX-World IS the AP of Ham Radio ;D

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU4B on March 22, 2013, 10:55:16 AM
Well, by my calculation its heading towards 6PM in western EU and later in the east. It would indeed be a late announcement.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 22, 2013, 11:26:21 AM
i got a phone call this morning....... From an OLD ham type guy who sez this group will be in a dangerous and WET location.  Does that mean lots of RAIN, or ..............?  Nah, they would not be going back there....... would they ???

73, Gene AF3Y

Woooo hooo!!!  I really hope it's BS7.

When last it was activated I didn't have a real station and antenna. As a result I missed out. Now I do.

Rest assured I will be using vacation days if necessary. Must have this one in the log...


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: IK0OZD on March 22, 2013, 11:28:19 AM
a new island is coming out from the waters of the ocean?


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6UV on March 22, 2013, 11:36:33 AM
Atlantis


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K4JK on March 22, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
Atlantis
Maria Theresa


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NI0C on March 22, 2013, 11:48:59 AM
My guess, based, on the "dangerous and wet" hint, is one of the French Indian Ocean locations (FT/G, FT/J, FT/T).  I seem to recall reading that Glorioso, in particular, was infested with malaria carrying insects.   

73,
Chuck  NI0C


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 22, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
My guess, based, on the "dangerous and wet" hint, is one of the French Indian Ocean locations (FT/G, FT/J, FT/T).  I seem to recall reading that Glorioso, in particular, was infested with malaria carrying insects.   

73,
Chuck  NI0C

The French islands are not dangerous except for perhaps insect bites.  One place that is wet and dangerous is Myanmar.  Although I don't know if 'wet' refers to a lot of rain or near water.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 22, 2013, 01:06:18 PM
Navassa is often inhabited with Haitian pirates


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 22, 2013, 02:38:53 PM
a new island is coming out from the waters of the ocean?

Tony,

What rumors are you hearing from Europe?  I'm sure you know something but you just don't want to say anything ;)

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: HS0ZIB on March 22, 2013, 05:02:32 PM
Quote
One place that is wet and dangerous is Myanmar

Well...sometimes..and somewhere...  ;D

It was 100 degrees yesterday - haven't seen rain for months.  But when it does rain, it pours

Dangerous?  Now if you're talking about the crazy taxi drivers in Yangon, then I fully agree.  Of course, there is ethnic conflict on both western and eastern borders

Simon


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 22, 2013, 05:16:01 PM
Of course, there is ethnic conflict on both western and eastern borders

I read this today on wikipedia.  I guess media censorship is still in effect there :D

Obama's speech was broadcast live via Burmese state television channels but its simultaneous spoken translations was stopped when Obama began speaking about the Kachin Conflict.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU1O on March 22, 2013, 08:38:09 PM
Of course, there is ethnic conflict on both western and eastern borders

I read this today on wikipedia.  I guess media censorship is still in effect there :D

Obama's speech was broadcast live via Burmese state television channels but its simultaneous spoken translations was stopped when Obama began speaking about the Kachin Conflict.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

The Burmese are just copying the US mainstream media.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WS3N on March 22, 2013, 08:50:58 PM
Do they have their own version of Faux News?  :D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 23, 2013, 09:19:01 AM
Do they have their own version of Faux News?  :D

Yes but it more resembles Communist News Network (CNN).  ;D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 23, 2013, 01:36:03 PM
I dont know about anyone else, but I am getting kinda tired of being strung out...... This better not be a joke.

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 23, 2013, 02:14:52 PM
This better not be a joke.

And better not be one that you have already ;)

How could we wait for the actual QRV when we can't even wait for the announcement :D  This dxpedition might not even happen this year.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 23, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
This better not be a joke.

And better not be one that you have already ;)

How could we wait for the actual QRV when we can't even wait for the announcement :D  This dxpedition might not even happen this year.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Obviously, changes to their original plans have been made already.  I dont think they would have put out a teaser a week ahead of an announcement. Just does not make sense.

I think someone here mentioned that Bernie of Daily DX had dropped a hint or two, perhaps a day or two before Col's  posting on his DX WORLD site.

Hope all is still go....... ::) (WHENEVER it goes)

73, Gene AF3Y

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 23, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
I dont know about anyone else, but I am getting kinda tired of being strung out...... This better not be a joke.

73, Gene AF3Y

I agree Gene. If some press release comes out and it says P5 fox-trot uniform is going to be QRV starting April first. I am going to be pissed.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 23, 2013, 03:08:53 PM
If some press release comes out and it says P5 fox-trot uniform is going to be QRV starting April first. I am going to be pissed.

That's a good way to thin the pile up a bit.  Start a P5 operation on 4/1.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: VE3YF on March 23, 2013, 03:54:48 PM
This better not be a joke.

And better not be one that you have already ;)

How could we wait for the actual QRV when we can't even wait for the announcement :D  This dxpedition might not even happen this year.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Jonathan:

I guess us DXers are quite the impatient bunch. My fingers and toes are still crossed hoping it will be a FR/* or FT5/*. Whatever the outcome is, someone no doubt will be disappointed....

73 De Mike
VE3YF


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on March 24, 2013, 01:13:39 PM
DXpedition announcement is still on. Just delayed some days. Permissions granted. Won't be long til ALL know. No April Fools. Hang in there - will be soon :-D

73, Col MM0NDX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K4JK on March 24, 2013, 03:37:06 PM
Thanks for letting us know Col!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 24, 2013, 04:00:09 PM
Tromelin - that's my last best guess . . . .


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 24, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
Still holding out hope for BS7.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 24, 2013, 05:01:24 PM
Or South Sandwich . . .


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 24, 2013, 05:02:02 PM
Still holding out hope for BS7.

Hopefully its BS7FFA . . . .


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 24, 2013, 05:18:08 PM
I am tired of guessing.

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 24, 2013, 05:20:04 PM
I am tired of guessing.

73, Gene AF3Y

This plus  ::) ::) ::)


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 24, 2013, 05:31:51 PM
I dont know about anyone else, but I am getting kinda tired of being strung out...... This better not be a joke.

73, Gene AF3Y

DOn't think it is, Col wouldn't put it in his QRZ profile if it wasn't. (not the name of the entity, just that he is going on one in Autumn of 2013).


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 24, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Breaking News!  This DXCC will be in SE Asia.  You are allowed to retract your bets and make new ones :D

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 24, 2013, 06:32:58 PM
Breaking News!  This DXCC will be in SE Asia.  You are allowed to retract your bets and make new ones :D

73,
Jonathan W6GX

ok - I cry uncle. the only rare one would be Bs7, which I have - but only on one band mode......

pratas was activated twice in the last 10 year's.

I still think its South Sandwich ....... or Tromelin heh heh


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 24, 2013, 06:59:36 PM
I sure hope it is South Sandwich.  That shouldn't be too difficult from my QTH, and it is the last one I need in South America.  Bouvet would work as well.  What makes you think it is in SE asia?

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 24, 2013, 07:11:15 PM
What makes you think it is in SE asia?

http://ka3drr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/exclusive-interview-with-col-mm0ndx.html

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 24, 2013, 07:26:34 PM
What makes you think it is in SE asia?

http://ka3drr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/exclusive-interview-with-col-mm0ndx.html

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Great sleuthing. Maybe BS7 or XZ? I have both - but could use band slots - especially BS7.

Worked all Rumors Award?


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 24, 2013, 07:53:18 PM
Is XX9 in SE Asia?  I could use that, as well as BQ9, XU, XZ, and BS7.  I still hope it is something on an easier path to me until I get the really big antenna and tower up.

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2NL on March 24, 2013, 07:57:06 PM
I highly doubt it is BS7.  The Chinese have blocked all access to the rocks, including to Filipino fisherman who have fished there for generations.  If it were a BY sponsored expedition, it would be solely for political reasons and to try to reinforce their claim which goes against the spirit of Amateur Radio.  The recent 9M4SLL Spratly DXpedition was jammed heavily as well as 9M0L the year before for similar political reasons.

I would doubt it would be BV9 because of all the recent tension in the South China Sea over the recent Chinese push to claim the region.

XZ is not out of the realm of possibility however there has been some recent civil unrest within the country in recent days.

My guess, if it had to be a SEA country, would be Bangladesh.  XX is another possibility.





Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 24, 2013, 08:06:38 PM
S2 and XX were recently activated.  I don't think it's BV9 or BS7.  That leaves only XZ.  I'm all in on XZ.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: VK3HJ on March 24, 2013, 10:37:22 PM
In "Autumn"? It's Autumn now! But I think he means Spring.
South East Asia would be nice, as it's my "backyard" and easy from here.
Burma would be nice to hear on air. Pratas and Scarborough Shoal are unlikely as mentioned above. Macao has seen plenty of activity.
There's nothing else new there for me.
Wherever it is, it will be at least a Marathon point.
We continue to wait, impatiently...
73,
Luke VK3HJ


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on March 24, 2013, 11:09:16 PM
Well, if it's something special in SE Asia, my money's on either Pratas or Myanmar. I, too, doubt that the Scarborough pimples will be activated given current regional tensions. Either BV9 or XZ will be ATNOs for me, so my fingers are firmly crossed!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on March 25, 2013, 12:13:37 AM
Oops, I see people have read my QRZ bio. Actually this upcoming announcement is not to do with my planned Autumn expedition to SE Asia. They are totally different.

Dammit, I wish I could say, but I can't as I'll get in *%4£.

--

73 Col MM0NDX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: HS0ZIB on March 25, 2013, 02:12:48 AM
If it's XZ, then I'll be very happy.  But the guy who would issue the ham licences, (The Minister of Telecoms & IT) only took up his post a few weeks ago after the previous guy was placed under house arrest.

Also, as of today, ethnic fighting has broken out in Yangon itself.  I'm at work (school) and I live in that area of the city, so I need to be careful walking home later...

Simon


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 25, 2013, 04:36:34 AM
Simon: please take care there . . . .

Using the process of elimination (with all the reasons why "x" or "y" or "z" can't be activated), it leaves:

South Sandwich - which would be activated next southern Hemisphere Summer
Amsterdam - not sure what time of year is best - it doesn't have too harsh a climate - maybe next (northern hemisphere Fall?)
Tromelin - which I know can't be activated during Typhoon season - December - March in that part of the world, so I say between April - November, my guess closer to the northern hemisphere Fall

I think it will be something in September or October, and it will be an ATNO for me.

I can't imagine anything that isn't ultra rare would have this level of secrecy.





Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N6PSE on March 25, 2013, 05:38:34 AM
I'm hoping it is something in the southern Indian Ocean.  Crozet or Bouvet would be spectacular!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 25, 2013, 06:58:56 AM
KP1 :D

NO doubt about it.  Except... maybe......  Nah......... KP1 ;D

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 25, 2013, 07:05:50 AM
I'm hoping it is something in the southern Indian Ocean.  Crozet or Bouvet would be spectacular!

I'm hoping for Crozet but Bouvet... ehhh I have that one already. :)


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K3NRX on March 25, 2013, 09:10:10 AM
Right now, a DXpedition to any place WARM would be on my wish list.....Which leads me to ask....Is anyone out there NOT sick and tired of this never ending freak'n cold weather????....Jeezus, enough already!!!!!!.... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ......so if it's to someplace nice and hot, can I stowe away????......Please????..... :o.....

V
KA3NRX



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N1UK on March 25, 2013, 09:16:59 AM
Quote
Is anyone out there NOT sick and tired of this never ending freak'n cold weather?Huh

Yes I am..I am seriously thinking of moving to Florida for the sun and the propagation

Mark N1UK


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 25, 2013, 10:23:34 AM
Actually this upcoming announcement is not to do with my planned Autumn expedition to SE Asia. They are totally different.

Col,

Are you going to an exotic location in SE Asia?  Any hints?

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 25, 2013, 02:50:51 PM
Well, "The week" has passed, and another has started.

I cannot remember another deal like this.

Did the teaser get started too soon??????????

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 26, 2013, 07:27:41 AM
S2 and XX were recently activated.  I don't think it's BV9 or BS7.  That leaves only XZ.  I'm all in on XZ.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Looks like XZ is out:

http://dx-world.net/2013/myanmar-update-ii/#more-42358


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 26, 2013, 07:39:42 AM
S2 and XX were recently activated.  I don't think it's BV9 or BS7.  That leaves only XZ.  I'm all in on XZ.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Looks like XZ is out:

http://dx-world.net/2013/myanmar-update-ii/#more-42358

I saw the update at the top and figured there was a breakthrough.  Then got sad when I read it. I am amazed at the work involved in getting a rare entity on the air.

I still think KP1 is the winner. And think N6PSE is complicate  ;D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 26, 2013, 08:56:33 AM
S2 and XX were recently activated.  I don't think it's BV9 or BS7.  That leaves only XZ.  I'm all in on XZ.

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Looks like XZ is out:

http://dx-world.net/2013/myanmar-update-ii/#more-42358

Someone who already has XZ is smiling.  For me it doesn't really matter.  I need everything in the top 20 :D

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 26, 2013, 09:27:07 AM
I'm beginning to think the DXpedition's callsign will be:

H0AX

or

J0KE



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: IK0OZD on March 26, 2013, 09:41:13 AM
postponed several times
kh5 Jarvis
kp1 Navassa
What more do you want?

http://dx-world.net/2011/navassa-island-dxpedition/

http://dx-world.net/2011/update-jarvis-island/

kp1 immediately
kh5 in autumn



what else ?









Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K6UJ on March 26, 2013, 09:41:53 AM
I'm beginning to think the DXpedition's callsign will be:

H0AX

or

J0KE




Rich,
Good ones, hihi !
I think the DX-pedition will be announced (by many on this thread) next wednesday (April fools day)    ;D

Bob
K6UJ


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 26, 2013, 09:45:59 AM
I'm beginning to think the DXpedition's callsign will be:

H0AX

or

J0KE




Rich,
Good ones, hihi !
I think the DX-pedition will be announced (by many on this thread) next wednesday (April fools day)    ;D

Bob
K6UJ

Actually, 2013 is making me all that much more grateful for 2012.

However, almost half of the ATNO's I worked last year were unannounced, so there is always hope.

But yeah - it almost seems like there are more announcements about what won't be activated  . . . . at least any time soon.

I've been having a ball on 160M - so I'm actually quite happy these days DX-ing.



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 26, 2013, 11:06:53 AM
I am up to 301 worked so I am happy these days. Challenge should be confirmed soon too. 5 band I still need a couple more on 80 though.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on March 26, 2013, 02:08:17 PM
The DXpedition will take place in 2014.

Unfortunately, no word on the announcement, BUT it is coming!

Nothing else to say, so let's now wait. (You all know something BIG will be announced, or at least you've been alerted ;-) )

73, Col MM0NDX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K4JK on March 26, 2013, 02:16:35 PM
Col, you're going to give Gene a stroke.  ;D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 26, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
The DXpedition will take place in 2014.

No wonder they are taking their time to make the announcement.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KB3LIX on March 26, 2013, 02:53:45 PM
The DXpedition will take place in 2014.

Unfortunately, no word on the announcement, BUT it is coming!

Nothing else to say, so let's now wait. (You all know something BIG will be announced, or at least you've been alerted ;-) )

73, Col MM0NDX

2014...GREAT !
I could be DEAD by then !

Thats my luck !


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 26, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
Col, you're going to give Gene a stroke.  ;D

Nah... I am tougher than that.  I guess we can all get back to what we were doing (counting fingers, toes, working DX looking out for pieces of the sky falling, ten days ago.).  I am sure SOMETHING will be announced, DXwise before 2014. No further comments from here.

73, Gene AF3Y 8)


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 26, 2013, 03:06:19 PM
The DXpedition will take place in 2014.

Unfortunately, no word on the announcement, BUT it is coming!

Nothing else to say, so let's now wait. (You all know something BIG will be announced, or at least you've been alerted ;-) )

73, Col MM0NDX

I have something to say.... Col, I think someone is pulling your leg. :)

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on March 26, 2013, 03:24:36 PM
The DXpedition will take place in 2014.

Unfortunately, no word on the announcement, BUT it is coming!

Nothing else to say, so let's now wait. (You all know something BIG will be announced, or at least you've been alerted ;-) )

73, Col MM0NDX

I have something to say.... Col, I think someone is pulling your leg. :)

73, Gene AF3Y

Hehe - I understand why you say that, but can state that you (and all) will be pleasantly surprised....(sorry the announcement was not when I thought it would be, BUT it will come)....

If I said landing permission was already granted and large organisations are about to be approached for sponsorship, would that make you still think my leg was being pulled?   ;)

73 Col MM0NDX
http://dx-world.net/


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: M0TTB on March 26, 2013, 04:02:59 PM

If I said landing permission was already granted and large organisations are about to be approached for sponsorship, would that make you still think my leg was being pulled?   ;)

73 Col MM0NDX
http://dx-world.net/

Aha, so we can forget about E3, XZ, P5 now  ;D


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on March 26, 2013, 04:30:03 PM

If I said landing permission was already granted and large organisations are about to be approached for sponsorship, would that make you still think my leg was being pulled?   ;)

73 Col MM0NDX
http://dx-world.net/

"Landing permission already granted"...... I think I like the sound of that :D

Sounds like USFWS gave in.....

Keep up the good work.

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 26, 2013, 04:51:21 PM
The DXpedition will take place in 2014.

Unfortunately, no word on the announcement, BUT it is coming!

Nothing else to say, so let's now wait. (You all know something BIG will be announced, or at least you've been alerted ;-) )

73, Col MM0NDX

I have something to say.... Col, I think someone is pulling your leg. :)

73, Gene AF3Y

Hehe - I understand why you say that, but can state that you (and all) will be pleasantly surprised....(sorry the announcement was not when I thought it would be, BUT it will come)....

If I said landing permission was already granted and large organisations are about to be approached for sponsorship, would that make you still think my leg was being pulled?   ;)

73 Col MM0NDX
http://dx-world.net/

My KP1 guess is looking better and better all the time. Paul has been quiet...


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KF6ABU on March 26, 2013, 05:21:29 PM
why not just say what it is.

what's the point of this thread.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on March 26, 2013, 05:29:10 PM
why not just say what it is.

what's the point of this thread.

In Rich's defense, it was a fun thread a week ago  ::)


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 26, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
I'm beginning to think the DXpedition's callsign will be:

H0AX

or

J0KE



COOL! I can use both of those prefixes on CW!

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 27, 2013, 04:26:30 AM
Knowing its something for 2014, that leaves nothing announced that I need in 2013. This means its time to design, build and try some new antennas.

I have a couple really interesting projects ready to go. The drill press will be whirring again soon.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K7KB on March 27, 2013, 11:58:23 AM
Col: Just make sure that when you do make the announcement it's NOT on April 1st. Delay it a day or two if required ;D

John K7KB


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 27, 2013, 01:11:46 PM

If I said landing permission was already granted and large organisations are about to be approached for sponsorship, would that make you still think my leg was being pulled?   ;)

73 Col MM0NDX
http://dx-world.net/

Aha, so we can forget about E3, XZ, P5 now  ;D

All three of those do have coastlines, and also, maybe it is airplane landing permission!

Still hoping for South Sandwich, though.

73 John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WB3BEL on March 28, 2013, 07:26:50 AM
The DXpedition will take place in 2014.

Unfortunately, no word on the announcement, BUT it is coming!

Nothing else to say, so let's now wait. (You all know something BIG will be announced, or at least you've been alerted ;-) )

73, Col MM0NDX

I hope that this all works out...

I can't see what the harm would be in asking one tiny question...

Will this rumored DXpedition be in the Top 10 DXCC needed list globally as shown here?  

https://secure.clublog.org/mostwanted.php

Yes  No  No Comment

A French Indian Ocean/Antarctic tour with multi-stops would be a bonanza !!!  This seems like it would be an economical way to combine resources.  Maybe a 6 week tour with resupply and ham radio objectives?



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 28, 2013, 07:47:05 AM

A French Indian Ocean/Antarctic tour with multi-stops would be a bonanza !!!  This seems like it would be an economical way to combine resources.  Maybe a 6 week tour with resupply and ham radio objectives?


You have hit the nail on the head - that some combined effort / shared cost scheme is what is needed for these places (that N1DG had suggested in his excellent presentation on cost for DX-peditions and who usually foots the bill).

Several of these places are now $1 million dollar DX-peditions! Ironically, access isn't the issue - its cost. Here's the "million dollar question": How do DX-peditions raise $1 million dollars - above and beyond charging the participants a "seat fee"?

Then we have the US F&W controlled entities - much cheaper (still very expensive though), and access is very difficult but fund raising is do-able.

I know for a fact that these topics will be big at the IDXC in Visalia in less than a month. I can't wait to go and discuss these topics - in person with those "in the know".


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WD4ELG on March 28, 2013, 10:26:02 AM
I thought Clipperton included scientific research work to help get additional grants.  For southern latitude islands, imagine the scientific research that could be done down there!  Global climate studies, sea current data collection, wildlife analysis.  With all the money being spent on studying climate change, how many observations are being made in the areas in the deep southern hemisphere?  Just sayin'

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 28, 2013, 10:40:13 AM
I thought Clipperton included scientific research work to help get additional grants.  For southern latitude islands, imagine the scientific research that could be done down there!  Global climate studies, sea current data collection, wildlife analysis.  With all the money being spent on studying climate change, how many observations are being made in the areas in the deep southern hemisphere?  Just sayin'

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG

The scientific work (and grants) covered (roughly) 10% of Clipperton's cost. You are on the right track and have the right idea, its just that money is tight these days . . . .

The greater "economy of scale" and leverage point that I see is actually far more basic - share transportation costs by doing "two - fer" or "three - fers". Ships like the Marion Dufresne do a loop around several of these islands, so if there were say three teams sharing the cost - activating three islands on the MD's route - bingo - this could be the answer.

Check this out - its important:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Dufresne_(1995)


Look at the Eco-Tourism section.

I think it comes down to really basic transportation economics in the end. Some of these islands can only be accessed using a helicopter. Keep that in mind.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WD4ELG on March 28, 2013, 10:48:13 AM
Rich/KY6R, that would be incredible...3 DXpeditions to 3 most-wanted islands going on at one time?  Talk about adrenaline rush!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 28, 2013, 10:57:09 AM
I predict that there will be two models to activate these ultra rare "roaring 40's" entities:

1) Charter ships like the Marion Dufresne and bring 50 people along - maybe three teams for three islands. Because of the MD's "rotation" - each team might have to stay on the island for an entire month! I don't know if that is really practical - but its an idea.

2) Do what they did for ZL9HR. Smaller boat, smaller team of 10 - 12. Lower cost. But then, only the islands that have docks can be visited (Amsterdam and Crozet - maybe Kerguelin). Bouvet, South Sandwich, Heard need that helicopter!

"Two men in a sailboat" won't work to any of these IMHO.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 28, 2013, 11:30:39 AM
I thought Clipperton included scientific research work to help get additional grants.  For southern latitude islands, imagine the scientific research that could be done down there!  Global climate studies, sea current data collection, wildlife analysis.  With all the money being spent on studying climate change, how many observations are being made in the areas in the deep southern hemisphere?  Just sayin'

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG

And don't forget Astronomy!  You get a completely different view of the universe from down there.  It is my goal to make it to the Southern Hemisphere someday just so I can view the Large and Small Magellanic clouds, and Alpha Centari-the closest star to the sun!

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF5CC on March 28, 2013, 11:32:06 AM
Rich/KY6R, that would be incredible...3 DXpeditions to 3 most-wanted islands going on at one time?  Talk about adrenaline rush!

Talk about lack of sleep for all of us in the DXing community!

John AF5CC


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AE5X on March 29, 2013, 06:13:42 PM
I guess it won't be P5 - here comes the little man himself:
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/picture-of-north-korean-assault-landing-was-photoshopped-t10910.html#p157924

John AE5X


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU1O on March 29, 2013, 07:04:12 PM
I guess it won't be P5 - here comes the little man himself:
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/picture-of-north-korean-assault-landing-was-photoshopped-t10910.html#p157924

John AE5X


I don't see anyway of toppling that government but from the inside.  South Korea and the NGOs should stop all food aid.  Only when the elite in Pyongyang and the military start going hungry will a group of soldiers knock-off that punk. He must consume 3 to 4 times the calories of a rural citizen in NK, not to mention all the top-shelf booze he drinks.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N1UK on March 29, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
Are they all crazy there or just the leadership or lack of

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301127/Stay-away-North-Korea--war-HOURS-AWAY-Kim-Jong-Uns-chilling-message-British-tour-boss.html


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on March 29, 2013, 08:53:14 PM
Something tells me that granting access to a DX-pedition there is not high on anyone's priority list . . . .  :o


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU1O on March 29, 2013, 09:22:40 PM
Are they all crazy there or just the leadership or lack of

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301127/Stay-away-North-Korea--war-HOURS-AWAY-Kim-Jong-Uns-chilling-message-British-tour-boss.html

First of all, the US is not about to attack North Korea. What would be the purpose unless it was retaliatory? All this posturing is for domestic consumption. They are trying to establish military credentials with the North Korean populace for a very young leader who never served in the military. Plus, when many go to bed hungry every night it's always good to have a bogey man and the US has always served that purpose in North Korea.

They aren't any crazier than the elites during the Soviet era. The top elite in that country are eating very well and taking advantage of all the benefits the regime offers for their family members.  In a dog-eat-dog world the top dog is doing well even if it means a crummy existence compared to the Western democracies.

Did you notice how much bigger that 20-something year old punk is than all his General's in the photo?  He looks to be twice the size of the other people in the photo.  It's a combination of the best food and booze available to an emperor.

There really should be a law prohibiting dupes like Dennis Rodman from going there and consuming more food in a week than the average North Korean eats in a few months.  There are many North Korean citizens in concentration camps that scavenge through animal feces for kernels of corn, yet Rodam ate and drank like a King.

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU1O on March 29, 2013, 09:29:38 PM
Something tells me that granting access to a DX-pedition there is not high on anyone's priority list . . . .  :o

I have not worked North Korea but if it means more aid to that dictator and helping to prop up that terrible regime, I'd rather not work it until there was a regime change.

I seriously hope nobody is offering food or medical supplies to operate on the ham bands for a few days.

73,

Chris/NU1O



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 30, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Are they all crazy there or just the leadership or lack of

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301127/Stay-away-North-Korea--war-HOURS-AWAY-Kim-Jong-Uns-chilling-message-British-tour-boss.html


He seems to be a puppet of the military at this point. But he has to show he's tough or else the people may open their eyes.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU1O on March 30, 2013, 01:25:20 PM
That travel agent looks like he has soiled his pants whereas the NK soldier looks very relaxed. What a dichotomy!

I don't think the PGA will soon be holding tournaments in Pyongyang.  I also don't understand why anybody would want to go on a staged tour of North Korea knowing the revenue just helps keep the regime stay in power but 9 of his 10 clients were from China. The tourist from England was a University student which explains a lot but the travel agent must have a few screws lose. I think the travel agent will be lucky to reach 40 if he continues to visit "hostile locations with the treat of war in the air."

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WD4ELG on March 30, 2013, 07:28:07 PM
Chris, my understanding of DPRK is what you stated: until the elite (and the army) get fed up, there will be no change.  But the sanctions are apparently aimed at the elite this time.

There is a great pic somewhere (photoshopped) of Kim Jong Il playing golf with Tiger Woods (maybe that was when Kim shot a record 45 under par?)
 
Dennis Rodman.  "The worm."  If Kim Jong Un only knew what a carircature Rodman is...

Since there were so many elites with radio licenses during the height of Soviet power, I am surprised DPRK does not do the same (were there any ham operators during Stalin's time?).  It would be seen as a weapon of propaganda to show a (false) sense of freedom and openness and normalcy.  But at this point, maybe Kim is not even trying to put up a good show anymore.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WD4ELG on March 30, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
Very interesting article.  Lenin encouraged radio.

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2009/07/radio-russia-1.html


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU1O on March 30, 2013, 10:47:44 PM
Chris, my understanding of DPRK is what you stated: until the elite (and the army) get fed up, there will be no change.  But the sanctions are apparently aimed at the elite this time.


Do you have any links to articles which state what the sanctions are?  From the looks of things I don't the sanctions are having much of an effect on the elite.  Food and medicine are fungible, like money, and it's my understanding Pyongyang gets the best of everything while the people in the rural areas live on a spartan diet. 

Until South Korea and the NGOs stop ALL food and medical aid to North Korea I don't think we will see a Palace Coup.  I know that sounds harsh but we are no longer dealing with a country that only has conventional weapons.  I don't believe they have the ability to launch an ICBM with a nuclear warhead that could hit the continental US but it's only a matter of time once they have the nuclear bomb. No other country on the planet has so much of their GDP going to the military.

I tried to bring up the link about Lenin and how he encouraged radio but that site will not come up.  I really don't think Amateur Radio is a high priority in North Korea and I don't think they care whether they pretend there are freedoms or not.  A few ham stations aren't going to fool anybody, anyway.  I think it is the most vile regime on the planet. Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing NK come off the DXCC list until there is a regime change. 

73,

Chris/NU1O


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on March 30, 2013, 11:05:16 PM
it's my understanding Pyongyang gets the best of everything while the people in the rural areas live on a spartan diet. 

On one of the released photos I see an Apple iMac on the table.  Yeah, Kim Jong Un is working on his war plans using an American designed computer.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on March 31, 2013, 06:57:46 AM
Sophie Schmidt did a trip report when her dad went with bill Richardson. It was very interesting. Google it.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NM6V on March 31, 2013, 04:55:52 PM
Since we are talking about N. Korea.  Go to Google Earth and find Uncheon in S. Korea (wish I had Google Earth back in the 70's, would have made my gov. job easier, hihi)
Anyways, look to the North and find National Route 1/Asian Hwy 1, follow this Hwy North and you will come to a transportation hub, which includes truck and rail.
Now follow the Hwy North and you will see some interesting things like tank over crossings, high tension power lines (this is key), rail line (also key) you will finally get to the border crossing fence.
Notice the road converges into 2 lanes but more importantly notice the tire marks on the road, I would expect this in a warmer climate but thats a lot of truck traffic and constant.
Much of that rubber usually washes away with rain.
If you continue to follow the road North you come upon Kaesong Border Checkpoint and finally Kaesong itself.  This is an industrial complex/city.

You will also find tank traps outside of this area and other interesting features.  What does this all mean, could be several things but just from this I can tell you this complex is
making "stuff" and sending it South (notice all the trucks on the side of the road in this complex facing South) and a lot of it.

Remember when Germany was West Germany and East Germany?  When you purchased something from West Germany or East Germany for that fact, it said "Made in West or East
Germany.
Check out your Samsung or L.G. TV or Washer/Dryer or Frig. Etc...  what does it say?   Made in Korea, not "Made in South Korea"
Anyways, just something to speculate about and chew on. 

By the way I need P5 for #340, I hope things change for the better so we all can work a P5.

Cheers

Henry  NM6V


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NU1O on April 01, 2013, 12:04:43 AM
You will also find tank traps outside of this area and other interesting features.  What does this all mean, could be several things but just from this I can tell you this complex is
making "stuff" and sending it South (notice all the trucks on the side of the road in this complex facing South) and a lot of it.




Would it surprise me if multinational companies were using North Korea as very low cost manufacturing hub?  Absolutely not!  The almighty dollar trumps all in this world even if it means helping a country we are still at war with develop a nuclear bomb and accurate ICBMs.

With your knowledge of how rubber usually washes away and the high tension lines I'd guess you have some experience analyzing satellite or high flying aircraft photos.

I worked a guy in Russia once who was in the far northern city in Russia so I decided to look at the Google Earth photos of it.  It was obvious the city was created due to the mineral deposits because it wasn't near anything and there was hardly any foliage plus the pollutions was very visible. I'm pretty sure the city was Norilsk.  Many of the big cities we work in Russia have huge pollution problems.  Just Google "10 most polluted Russian cities" and chances are somebody with a decent station has worked many of them.

If one is the curious type they could easily make a hobby out of viewing Google Earth and uncovering all sorts of odd things.

73,

Chris/NU1O



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WD4ELG on April 01, 2013, 05:28:38 AM
CHris/NU1O, my limited understanding of the sanctions is that the target is banking and hard currency along with consumer goods.  http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/26/us-korea-north-combat-idUSBRE92P0V220130326?feedType=RSS

Does anyone remember as a teenager playing the Avalon-Hill board games? Called turn-based strategy games, it was a wargame scenario that allowed for movement and interaction of units in a theater scenario of a historical battle in the past.  I used to enjoy learning about tactics and World War 2, how the Third Reich initially succeeded and then had to retreat.  Same with Napolean.

Well about 10 years ago, I found that these types of games had been computerized!  You can play against another player (take a turn, mail the updated file, the other player takes a turn and mails back the file, etc) or against the computer.  Different parameters (degree of difficulty, reinforcements, etc.).  Well, one of the MOST INTERESTING of these was called Korea 85.  It is based on the Order of Battle (ORBAT) for 1985 on the peninsula.  North versus South. Summer and Winter campaigns.  It simulated how the North would attack in a full cross-border move.  The game received numerous awards for realism of strategy for both sides.  One of the illuminating elements of the game is how quickly Seoul would fall and how difficult it would be to hold ground for the South.  Basically a "trade territory for time until reinforcements arrive."  Heavy losses on both sides.  Of course, DPRK is a lot different today than in 1985 (and so are we).  But it was very informative.

http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/ModBat/Korea85/korea85.html

I eventually stopped playing these when they began to keep me up late at night (which was when I was supposed to be DXing!)

Given that the first thing which will happen when DPRK falls is a mass migration of refugees, desparate for food and clothing, it seems like the chaos will take some time to die down.  So maybe DPRK leadership change + 2 years until P5 is active again.  (Of course, the priority should not be on ham radio but in stability and getting order restored so people in DPRK can get some basics back in their lives).




Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on April 01, 2013, 06:21:10 AM
How long has it been since the "teaser" was announced?


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on April 01, 2013, 06:35:44 AM
It's coming...(after a slight delay)...


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on April 01, 2013, 06:51:06 AM
It's coming...(after a slight delay)...

It should probably not happen on April fool's day.  :o


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: WS3N on April 01, 2013, 09:44:39 AM
Does anyone remember as a teenager playing the Avalon-Hill board games?

I had Battle of the Bulge and U-Boat, but I could never get any of my friends to play. It was too nerdy. There were some kids in school who played Strat-O-Matic baseball and football.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on April 01, 2013, 10:36:16 AM
How long has it been since the "teaser" was announced?

I cant remember that long ago... (Old........)

But anything is better than  the political diatribe, which does not really belong here.

Perhaps a good dose of Haley's MO would clean things up....... ::)

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N2RJ on April 01, 2013, 11:58:50 AM
Oh, North Korea makes stuff. They make cars as a matter of fact. They make fiat designs from Chinese parts.

They also make a lot of stuff in Kaesong like clothes and white goods, but this isn't exactly a secret.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: PB1TT on April 01, 2013, 02:05:50 PM
Just came across this, while googling:
http://www.amsterdamdx.org/
Not much info, but could be the one....


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on April 01, 2013, 02:12:08 PM
Just came across this, while googling:
http://www.amsterdamdx.org/
Not much info, but could be the one....

Good sleuthing.  What is the password?

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on April 01, 2013, 02:13:50 PM
ah - I am sure you are the winner!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N7SMI on April 01, 2013, 02:29:28 PM
"TAAF issued them a permit to land and conduct a DXpedition from Amsterdam Island for up to 18 days between the dates of January 15 and February 20 of 2014. Landing, set-up, and take down are included in those 18 days."

There's more information out there... if you know where to find it.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on April 01, 2013, 02:39:12 PM
I'm glad to hear it's not KP1.  Because I know KP1 will be activated.  It's just a matter of time.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on April 01, 2013, 02:45:31 PM
Amsterdam is a great path from West Coast. Low bands should be especially good.

Crozet, Kerguelin and Andaman were very easy.

Great sleuthing, PB1TT......


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on April 01, 2013, 02:49:22 PM
Amsterdam is a great path from West Coast. Low bands should be especially good.

How so?  Amsterdam is not too far from Marion Island.  Wasn't Marion difficult to work from either coasts?

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: PB1TT on April 01, 2013, 02:59:53 PM
Amsterdam is a great path from West Coast. Low bands should be especially good.

Crozet, Kerguelin and Andaman were very easy.

Great sleuthing, PB1TT......

You're welcome. Also found the info N7SMI displayed (thanks to Google).
It seems Ralph K0IR is the team leader, so that should make a well organized activation!
By the way, no ATNO for me, I worked FT5ZB in 1988 on 10 meters sideband while calling cq (those were the days).
Still waiting for KP1 though...

73, Peter


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on April 01, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Gonna be a BITCH from Florida.....

Looks like 0200 0500 z as best times.

EU will rule this one. Where are the Ops from???????
We will need some help here.

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on April 01, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
FT/Z is an ATNO for me and great news that Ralph is the organizer.

I will have a 2 element 40M yagi pointing that way for sure - plus the stack on 2 of the high bands.

73,

Rich
KY6R


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on April 01, 2013, 03:13:20 PM
...and to think some doubted me  ;D

73 Col MM0NDX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AD9DX on April 01, 2013, 03:23:46 PM
...and to think some doubted me  ;D

73 Col MM0NDX

You should have waited until 0:01 UTC just for giggles.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on April 01, 2013, 03:36:13 PM
The website not active yet......?

Requires password (maybe under construction).

Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on April 01, 2013, 03:56:58 PM
I'm not sure if FT5 is more difficult to work from the West or East coast.  The bearing from CO is the same to FT5 and VK9C.  It's not going to be a cakewalk.  I won't have an antenna stack at my disposal.  I just need the propagation to cooperate with me and everyone to QRX when they are calling NA.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2LO on April 01, 2013, 04:04:42 PM
 The last big expedition to Amsterdam was by FT5ZH in late November to late December 1998 and their signals were generally very good in the eastern US across many bands. This was close to the peak of the last sunspot cycle. FT5ZH had only a lmited number of operators, perhaps two or three, but they did an excellent job; a larger group should do quite well.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KF6ABU on April 01, 2013, 04:15:21 PM
Amsterdam is a great path from West Coast. Low bands should be especially good.


April fools, right?


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N7SMI on April 01, 2013, 04:16:51 PM
It looks like there's a pretty good chance we'll have Heard Island and Amsterdam Island on the air at the same time, which is a good thing for the pileups - which are going to be EPIC regardless.

In fact, based on the dates, it's likely that both teams will be on the same boat - the Marion Dufresne II, the only ship that regularly services these islands with a helicopter (which is required for both islands).


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AE5X on April 01, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
Amsterdam is a great path from West Coast. Low bands should be especially good.


April fools, right?

Not at all. Amsterdam is near the antinode for a large part of the US and that's a signal-enhancing characteristic.

John AE5X
http://www.ae5x.com/blog


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on April 01, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
After all....... it IS April 1st, right ???

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N5MOA on April 01, 2013, 06:06:24 PM
How so?  Amsterdam is not too far from Marion Island.  Wasn't Marion difficult to work from either coasts?

73,
Jonathan W6GX

ZS8M was pretty weak on 40m, but a solid 58 LP on 20m, on more than one occasion in the morning.

I suspect both of these dxpeds will have mo better antennas/power.

Using DXAtlas, and checking mid Jan, 2014, it looks like I have a small evening greyline shot at Heard Is, and a bit better evening chance with Amsterdam. Not so much in the morning. Morning looks good for the west coast.

Both will be ATNO's if I can manage a qso.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: NM6V on April 01, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
Anyone notice the removal of the FT5Z announcement on DX World, its gone!



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: N6PSE on April 01, 2013, 06:34:39 PM
It is still there. Just the call sign was removed.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on April 01, 2013, 08:45:41 PM
Wake, Heard and Amsterdam, if I bag all three, will still leave me 1 shy of Honor Roll. Now if someone can please get their rump to Pratas and or San Felix (either of which should be significantly easier than the aforementioned three), I'd be mighty obliged  ;D ;D ;D

Seriously, though...if true that's great news. Hoping I'm not a poisson d'Avril for believing it!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W6GX on April 02, 2013, 11:25:26 AM
Breaking News!  More details now available on DX-World courtesy of TCDXA.

73,
Jonathan W6GX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on April 02, 2013, 12:07:42 PM
Amsterdam is a great path from West Coast. Low bands should be especially good.

How so?  Amsterdam is not too far from Marion Island.  Wasn't Marion difficult to work from either coasts?

73,
Jonathan W6GX

Amsterdam should be more like FT5XO or FT5WJ - for the West Coast and for morning grey line.

It's a much different path, and almost all water. ZS8M was harder than FT5XO because of the path and antenna difference.


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on April 02, 2013, 02:09:28 PM
With a $400,000.00 anticipated cost, they will be looking for donations from all of us.  Lets HOPE that the "other DXers" around the world can give some $$ help for a change.  NA alone cannot fund all of these trips..... they need help from around the globe, which is usually very little outside of NA.

73, Gene AF3Y



Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: VE3YF on April 02, 2013, 02:21:48 PM
With a $400,000.00 anticipated cost, they will be looking for donations from all of us.  Lets HOPE that the "other DXers" around the world can give some $$ help for a change.  NA alone cannot fund all of these trips..... they need help from around the globe, which is usually very little outside of NA.

73, Gene AF3Y



Gene:

I am glad you said NA, instead of only US. I might be one of the few VE's ???, but I donate to almost operation. I want the DX so I think a donation is well worth the effort. I am still in a position where I can donate, 5 months from now I will be retired but I have tucked away funds just for the DX.

73 De Mike
VE3YF


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: VE3YF on April 02, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
Looks like they are going to have a first rate crew.

73 De Mike
VE3YF


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: AF3Y on April 02, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
With a $400,000.00 anticipated cost, they will be looking for donations from all of us.  Lets HOPE that the "other DXers" around the world can give some $$ help for a change.  NA alone cannot fund all of these trips..... they need help from around the globe, which is usually very little outside of NA.

73, Gene AF3Y



Gene:

I am glad you said NA, instead of only US. I might be one of the few VE's ???, but I donate to almost operation. I want the DX so I think a donation is well worth the effort. I am still in a position where I can donate, 5 months from now I will be retired but I have tucked away funds just for the DX.

73 De Mike
VE3YF

11th year of my retirement.... I cannot send nearly what I used to , but I always try to scrape up something. 8)

73, Gene AF3Y


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: K3NRX on April 02, 2013, 03:43:30 PM
18 days.  That's a good deal too....Plenty of time to ride out the zoo that will occur and hopefully widdle down.....Hell, if my chicken sh*t station can hit Campbell Island, why not Amsterdam???....something to look forward to to get us through another horrid winter!.....

V
KA3NRX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on April 03, 2013, 09:24:30 AM
Some more info here: http://sq8x.net/big-project-big-news

--

Col MM0NDX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: MM0NDX on April 05, 2013, 02:55:25 PM
FT5ZM will be the call.

I think my "job" is done! Glad you stuck by and didn't really believe it was an April Fool's joke ;-)

73 Col MM0NDX


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: KY6R on April 05, 2013, 03:14:58 PM
Thanks Col, appreciate the teaser, which shows how hungry everyone is after 2012, one of the most exciting DX years in a long time.

Also shows how  "religiously" we check DX World.

I call that a huge success!


Title: RE: Lets Play "Guess that DX-pedition" . . .
Post by: W2IRT on April 05, 2013, 03:18:33 PM
Gonna be a few awesome months, between Wake, this one and Heard. SO looking forward to all of 'em.