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Title: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: KJ6RGY on March 16, 2013, 03:16:04 PM
I've caught this call sign calling CQ on 28.425 about 4 or 5 days in a row and the call is not listed as valid in any database.
I'm listening to a strong signal in California right now.
I am somewhat of a newb at this so what am I missing?


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: K2OWK on March 16, 2013, 03:47:12 PM
This is either a new license not yet in the data base, or a bootleg bogus call sign.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: KJ4FEL on March 16, 2013, 05:28:18 PM
I suspect that you did not copy the call sign correctly.

You probably heard KC4TVZ who is notorious on 10M, usually on 28.425 calling for 10-10 Club members and only 10-10 Club members.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: KJ6RGY on March 17, 2013, 05:20:51 AM
Thanks for the replies.
Dang it. I could have sworn I was hearing tango-baker-zulu.
While I could have misheard his call sign I heard nothing about a 10-10 club either.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: W8DPC on March 20, 2013, 10:41:13 AM
Thanks for the replies.
Dang it. I could have sworn I was hearing tango-baker-zulu.
While I could have misheard his call sign I heard nothing about a 10-10 club either.

Judging from a Google search of the call, someone is DEFINITELY actively using KC4TBZ, as recently as this year. But it hasn't been a valid call since 1993 when the original holder changed his call.

Editing to add this link: http://dxfor.me/?_s=KC4TBZ (http://dxfor.me/?_s=KC4TBZ). It suggests someone is using it from Kentucky, 10 meters only, and DX only (or mainly). It would be interesting if someone could track them down, because this person is definitely bootlegging the call.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: W5CPT on March 20, 2013, 11:37:10 AM
A search of cluster spots says he is using the name Todd and the city of Atlanta - BUT one spot has grid coordinates and lists his as EM83XM, which is just north of Augusta GA, not Kentucky.  Too many inconsistencies - a pirate for sure.

Clint - W5CPT - 


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: W3HF on March 20, 2013, 01:33:26 PM
Hey, come on guys! Just because GOOGLE has hits on KC4TBZ doesn't mean that he's saying TBZ on the air. It just means that many people are hearing TBZ and entering it on line.

- KC4TVZ is licensed to someone named Todd.
- He lives in a suburb of Atlanta.
- Without knowing what phonetics (if any) he is using, "V" and "B" could be easily confused.
- All but one of the posters on dxfor.me have callsigns from countries that are typically non-native English speakers.
- A random sampling of the callsigns on the dxfor.me listing, when entered into KC4TVZ's online log search (on QRZ) show hits.

I think it's pretty clear that for whatever reason, many hams are mis-logging KC4TVZ as TBZ.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: NA6M on December 14, 2013, 02:11:19 PM
Uh oh.

http://www.ten-ten.org/KC4TVZ_motion.pdf


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: KK6GMN on December 16, 2013, 10:54:05 AM
That call is being blasted out almost constantly on 10m at 28.425.  It sounds automated to me.  I treat it as a beacon. I have yet to hear anyone respond to it and I have listed for 15-20 minutes a few times while working on something else.  I eventually consulted the wide world of the webs and found the PDF noted by NA6M.  Amazing.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: N0AXE on January 18, 2014, 11:45:14 AM
I worked the KC4TVZ contact twice in the last two weeks here in Colorado. He doesn't give you a lot of time to reply while he is calling CQ. I got a 55 report from him which amazed me. I was using a Galaxy dx94 with a little 4 foot Wilson at the times. He does a quick report then goes back to calling CQ. Todd was never rude to me but I was hoping for more chat when the contact was made to get a feel for how my radio was sounding. Can't wait to get a better radio.\


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: W1DGL on February 01, 2015, 02:46:24 PM
The call's listed to Todd Burnette, in Flowery Branch, GA.  He seems to use an automated voice keyer when not making contacts.  I know of at least one O.O. here who said he's extremely close to 'crossing the line' between transmitting and 'broadcasting'.  I have heard him lambast people for "being too weak' and "you're in the mud, in the mud....no contact" and "if you have an amplifier, turn it on!" and other stuff of that ilk.
Just like the others here, I basically treat him as a 10m 'voice beacon' to let me know when the band is somewhat open (HI HI).

W1DGL


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: KM4SLW on February 12, 2015, 10:46:16 AM
He's about 100 miles north of me in GA. Hear him everyday, same freq.  I heard his automated CQ run ALL DAY one Saturday, no interruptions. FCC ought to shut him down. 10-10 Intl kicked him out....


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: N9KX on February 12, 2015, 01:28:47 PM
http://www.ae7q.com/query/data/CallHistory.php?CALL=kc4tvz (http://www.ae7q.com/query/data/CallHistory.php?CALL=kc4tvz)


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: K8AXW on February 12, 2015, 04:57:07 PM
Confuse V with B?  You gotta be kindin!


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: K6BBB on February 23, 2015, 09:28:33 AM
"Say Q, Say Q, Kilo Charlie Four Tango Victor Zulu." Repeat every 4-5 seconds on 28.425 for an hour at a time.

Yup, QSO's with Todd are short and not-so-sweet.

There must be some kind of award for making 1,000,000 CQ calls within a five year period.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: W4YJ on March 22, 2015, 01:59:48 PM
Why does the FCC not shut him down? This is really close to broadcasting!
73
W4YJ


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: NU1O on March 23, 2015, 05:44:20 AM
Why does the FCC not shut him down? This is really close to broadcasting!
73
W4YJ

I've worked Todd a number of times.  I've never had a problem with him.  We did not exchange 10-10 numbers.  I can't copy him daily because I mainly hear him during sporadic E season so I don't know what he's been up to lately.

73,

Chris  NU1O


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: W3HF on March 23, 2015, 05:54:53 AM
Why does the FCC not shut him down? This is really close to broadcasting!
73
W4YJ

The content of his transmission ("CQ") would indicate an intent to establish a two-way contact, not simply to transmit information for consumption by others. Unless someone can show he's not really listening, it's hard for the FCC to prove that he couldn't hear a reply call. I know there are a lot of times that I reply to a CQ and I think the caller should be able to hear me, and he keeps calling CQ. I usually attribute this to differences in noise levels, transmit power, or QRM.

I'm not saying that any of these are the case here, but given those possibilities, it's hard to prove without an on-site inspection.

Steve
W3HF

P.S. I've also worked Todd a number of times, without issue.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: NU1O on March 23, 2015, 06:57:41 AM
At one time Todd had all the awards he'd won from 10-10 posted on his QRZ page.  It's hard to imagine anybody working more 10-10 numbers than he did but for some reason he was thrown out of 10-10. Nobody has ever been able to provide me a reason for why he was thrown out of that club but in all fairness I've only asked people who've made Todd a subject of our QSO.  It seemed to me he was the hardest working member of 10-10.

Todd is on the air a lot and for some reason that bothers some people.

I'm not a friend of his and I haven't worked him since July of 2014.  These are just personal observations.

73,

Chris  NU1O





Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: KI4OYV on March 24, 2015, 05:31:50 AM
ARRL shows:

 SHOOKMAN, PHILLIP W, N1OZN

8 STANDISH AVE
AYER, MA 01432
Previous call sign: KC4TBZ
Previous license class: Novice
License Class:
Radio Service: HA
Issue Date: 05/04/1993
Expire Date: 05/04/2003
Date of Last Change: 05/05/2005 (License Status Set to Expired)

Could be he moved from region 4 to region 1. Lets hope he forgets to renew if he's a "problem child"


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: W3HF on March 24, 2015, 06:08:29 AM
ARRL shows:


Please read the entire thread before posting. We've already established that TBZ was NOT the callsign in question.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: AD0AR on March 26, 2015, 09:01:03 AM
Here's a clip I found on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BDAAp6e_d4   I never heard him saying this, but the audio sounds just like Todd.  He was the first amateur radio contact I made when I first got my tech license and was rather cordial when I was talking to him.   


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: KJ4JSN on April 02, 2015, 05:15:10 PM
kc4tvz Todd Brunette well known moron on ham radio and part time CBer calls himself the one nine  kid and warrior. Runs a tape recording at one time for 10 -10 # at least until  the 10-10 international excommunicated his fat ass now the recordings is cq cq all day. I really think he has some mental issues hope he addresses them some day??  ::) ::)


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: SWMAN on April 03, 2015, 04:09:00 AM
I have talked to Todd a few times in the past few years and never had a problem with him at all. After the QSO with him he always turned the mic over to Shondra his wife who was very nice to talk to.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: W7HBP on May 01, 2015, 02:05:23 PM
I have made a contact with Todd, we exchanged 10-10 numbers, he was very polite to me. He has the MFJ voice keyer, I have the same one (in fact, I have 2 of them), it saves your voice.


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: AF7EC on May 01, 2015, 07:29:56 PM
Runs a tape recording at one time for 10 -10 # at least until  the 10-10 international excommunicated his fat ass now the recordings is cq cq all day.

...and clicking the Ignore button...


Title: RE: KC4TBZ. Where is this station?
Post by: N3HFS on May 06, 2015, 11:52:58 PM
How is it any different than someone who is sending out their location on APRS constantly, not even looking to make a QSO?
It is possible to beacon one's position too often, or too far (too many hops), thereby abusing the network and its limited ability to pass data.  But merely beaconing one's position is NOT the same as endlessly calling CQ without intending to acknowledge replies.  Regularly sending one's location conveys data that may change over time, which alone yields considerably more useful information.