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Title: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: KU7I on April 25, 2013, 10:54:12 PM
Got this idea from a stealth cell phone tower in San Diego. It was in a Ralph's grocery store parking lot.....it took a minute but I realized what I was looking at while waiting for the wife in the store was a FAKE tree that was actually a cell phone tower. I did not even think anyone did this....heck.....I never even thought of this but the idea is genius. I wonder if it is possible to BUILD a fake BIG palm tree vertical? Something that would get set into a concrete base like a tower BUT it is actually a low band vertical....the whole thing radiates....like a full 1/4 wave on 75 meters?????? Or is this fantasy? Has this been discussed before?

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Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: ONAIR on April 26, 2013, 12:04:24 AM
Seen this done with fake Pine (Christmass) trees up North!  Just a wire up the middle, with radials at the base.


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: K0JEG on April 26, 2013, 05:52:26 AM
You could hide a cap hat in the branches. In fact, forget the "fake" and just put in a real one with a wire running up the side. Put some standoffs in and match the color of the tree and it should be very stealth.


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: WB6BYU on April 26, 2013, 12:32:27 PM
Many of the local cell towers are painted to look like the surrounding 150'+ Douglas
Fir trees.  The branches aren't as well modeled, but most folks don't look at the
tops of trees in a critical manner.

But if you have enough tall trees to disguise it in among, you can just hang a wire
over them instead.


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: W0MT on April 26, 2013, 01:45:34 PM
At the top of one of the ski runs at Winter Park in Colorado is a cell tower that looks like a pine tree. I skied that run many times before I realized it was fake. If you contacted some of the cell phone service providers they might tell where they got the tree.


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: W2RWJ on April 26, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
Larsen: http://utilitycamo.com/products/monopalm/


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: K0JEG on April 26, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
At the top of one of the ski runs at Winter Park in Colorado is a cell tower that looks like a pine tree. I skied that run many times before I realized it was fake. If you contacted some of the cell phone service providers they might tell where they got the tree.

I know that "tree" well. It's actually much larger than any lodgepole pine I've ever seen, and if you go up to the top in the summertime you'll see a few branches that have fallen off laying next to it. They're actually about 25' long.


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: KA4NMA on April 26, 2013, 07:17:45 PM
Back in the 1990's, near the Raleigh-Durham Airport on I-40, that was a fake tree cellphone tower.  Only problem was that it was about 20 or 30 feet above the grove of trees!

A while back, QST had an article about a 2m antenna hid in a fake tree flower pot on somebody's balcony.

Randy Ka4nma


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: WI8P on April 28, 2013, 09:14:07 AM
I'd love to have a fake palm tree antenna here in Michigan!  My neighbors would just have one more reason to avoid me.   ;D :D :o


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: K0JEG on April 28, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
I'd love to have a fake palm tree antenna here in Michigan!  My neighbors would just have one more reason to avoid me.   ;D :D :o

Put a few pink flamingos under it!


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: KE6EE on April 28, 2013, 02:44:07 PM
Those fake palm trees are wild! My guess is that they are pretty darn expensive for residential use. Around here (the subtropics of the San Francisco Bay Area) palm trees are abundant. I have friends who love palm trees and have back yards full of them. In the right environment you could plant a small palm at reasonable cost and run a piece of wire up it. It wouldn't be too long before your 10 meter vertical palm antenna would work pretty well on 20, 30 or 40 meters. Your 80 or 160 palm vertical would be somewhat more of a commitment. Around here folks with more money than brains can have mature trees, including palms, transplanted into their yards. It's not cheap, but as I mentioned, the fake palms are so expensive that they don't list the price on the website.

I'd like to see a compact two-element yagi disguised as a pair of airborne turkey vultures, but that's another story entirely.


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: WD8OQX on April 29, 2013, 08:18:55 AM
And I suppose that to care & feed such a thing you would use the same fertilizer used on an antenna farm, along with dehydrated water?  :D ;D


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: KJ4OBR on April 29, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
It's still there, though the trees have gotten a little bigger. Still sticks out like a sore thumb IMHO. There is a similar "tree" along I-25 in Colorado as you come to the top of Monument Hill between Denver and Colorado Springs.

73
Dave

Back in the 1990's, near the Raleigh-Durham Airport on I-40, that was a fake tree cellphone tower.  Only problem was that it was about 20 or 30 feet above the grove of trees!

A while back, QST had an article about a 2m antenna hid in a fake tree flower pot on somebody's balcony.

Randy Ka4nma


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: JS6TMW on May 08, 2015, 07:03:15 PM
The Japanese have been perfecting copycat vertical antennas for centuries. The photo shows what might be an experimental comparison setup in Hiroshima Prefecture  ::)(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff484/japanman9/P1010535.jpg?t=1431050451)


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: ONAIR on May 09, 2015, 01:21:54 AM
Those fake palm trees are wild! My guess is that they are pretty darn expensive for residential use. Around here (the subtropics of the San Francisco Bay Area) palm trees are abundant. I have friends who love palm trees and have back yards full of them. In the right environment you could plant a small palm at reasonable cost and run a piece of wire up it. It wouldn't be too long before your 10 meter vertical palm antenna would work pretty well on 20, 30 or 40 meters. Your 80 or 160 palm vertical would be somewhat more of a commitment. Around here folks with more money than brains can have mature trees, including palms, transplanted into their yards. It's not cheap, but as I mentioned, the fake palms are so expensive that they don't list the price on the website.

I'd like to see a compact two-element yagi disguised as a pair of airborne turkey vultures, but that's another story entirely.
   My friend saw some fake palm trees in Beverly Hills.  They were so realistic, that he didn't know for sure until he touched them!  I bet they cost a bundle.


Title: RE: Fake Palm Tree Low Bander
Post by: KC2MMI on May 11, 2015, 08:52:16 AM
I don't think you want to know what a BIG fake tree, much less what a big real tree, costs.

I think I saw my first "That's a funny...no, that's not a tree, is it?" about 20 years ago and every time I see people petitioning for more of them, the carrier says "Sure, who wants to pay for it?" and they usually don't happen.

Real trees, nice big mature trees transplanted to location? Not cheap either.

If you can't do it with a flagpole, you might as well as for a dirigible dock.