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Title: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: N0WE on April 30, 2013, 07:32:57 AM
Has anyone put a radio in the newer (I think this body style came out in 2011) Explorer? I have a Yaesu 8800 with the removable face plate. I just can't seem to find a good location to mount the face plate. Any help would be appreciated.

Jim N0WE


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: W9MMS on April 30, 2013, 07:42:17 AM
How about mounting it on top of the dash with 3M double side sticky tape.

((((73)))) Milverton


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: N0WE on May 01, 2013, 10:15:35 AM
That is an option but I prefer that it not be that visible.


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: KJ4OBR on May 02, 2013, 08:44:06 AM
Hard to give advice without an exact pic of your car, but a carmax image search shows a cubby below the radio/climate controls in front of the gear shift. How about a right angle bracket velcroed into that cubby holding the head, run the remote wire to the radio body vi a small access hole drilled through the back side of the cubby. You can even remote the mic by using a six conductor rj-12 telephone extension. I did this with my FT8900 in my 98 Jeep Liberty just be sure the extension is a straight through, not a cross-over. I have some pics towards the end of this album: https://plus.google.com/photos/108388273845581073968/albums/5693931148402558865

73
Dave


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: N0WE on May 03, 2013, 07:07:45 AM
There is a place where you suggest. This would be my first choice. Unfortunatley that is where the 12 volt utility socket, the USB port and the line in port is. Thanks for the suggestion.


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: KC2VQG on May 05, 2013, 03:41:51 PM
I know you prefer to keep it out of sight but thought I'd share my install with you.  I've installed my 8900 in two different modern 4Runners similarly and have never had an issue.  The main body has gone in the glove box with the head unit installed to a suction cup mount.  The wire is tucked back under the dash and the entire setup is very unobtrusive. 

For you seeing as how its a Explorer and more and more police departments are adopting them for use, a nice 2m sharkfin antenna might be up your alley.  Food for thought.  Pic of my setup:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r222/TurboManiacal/307731CC-D7BC-4333-B516-EC6C053FA62A-8449-0000092952CB23F2.jpg


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: AJ3O on May 08, 2013, 07:39:38 PM
Wish I had taken some pictures earlier tonight on my revised install in my work truck. May post one later, but I stopped at lowes on my way home and bought a 3foot piece of 1x1x1/16" of aluminum angle. I notched out the ends by cutting one side of the angle about 3" from each end. I then drilled a hole on each end. I mounted another piece of angle to this and attached the remote head bracket. Beside that mount, I mounted my amplified/dsp speaker. Where did I put this contraption? Between the two overhead visors using the mounting brackets and screws for the visors to hold everything in place. The speaker is up against the headliner and all is out of the way of the mirror and is secure. I have some minor cable work to finish for the mike and speaker, but I am pretty happy with it.


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: K0BG on May 09, 2013, 05:38:50 AM
I just love it when someone suggests mounting a transceiver atop the dash. I guess they don't know that the passenger side airbag virtually covers the whole dash from the steering wheel to the right A pillar!


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: K6RBK on May 10, 2013, 05:55:21 PM
I'm in the process of designing some cup holder mounts for my FT-857 and FTM-350.  The idea is to create a cup-shaped object (probably from fiberglass) with something protruding from the top that I can affix the face plate mounts to.  That way the face plate should be reasonably secure while driving, out of the way of the airbags, and no permanent attachment needs to be made to the dash or console.

Maybe something like that would work in your case?  I'm sure someone probably makes such a thing, but I haven't looked.

Rob


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: AC2KV on May 12, 2013, 04:12:44 PM
I'm in the process of designing some cup holder mounts for my FT-857 and FTM-350.  .....

Maybe something like that would work in your case?  I'm sure someone probably makes such a thing, but I haven't looked.

Rob

Here you go-

http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/sr33-yaesu.htm (http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/sr33-yaesu.htm)


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: N3KDJ on June 29, 2013, 05:25:06 AM
I used this Lido Mount with the AD1 Adapter to mount mine:   http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/sr88-icom.htm (http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/sr88-icom.htm)

Turned out like this:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5sNr9DvL81w/Uc4N548SFNI/AAAAAAAAQuk/LElox1E8ZR0/w506-h401-o/photo.jpg


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: W4KVW on July 09, 2013, 07:31:41 PM
I used this Lido Mount with the AD1 Adapter to mount mine:   http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/sr88-icom.htm (http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/sr88-icom.htm)

Turned out like this:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5sNr9DvL81w/Uc4N548SFNI/AAAAAAAAQuk/LElox1E8ZR0/w506-h401-o/photo.jpg


That is a great idea & mount the radio body under one of the seats.You will be set to go.

Clayton
W4KVW


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: K0BT on July 11, 2013, 09:29:02 AM
I made a cupholder mount for my 2013 F-250 using a flat-top 2.5" plastic plumbing end cap wrapped with 2 strips of foam tape.  I glued a another plumbing piece into it to make it the correct length and mounted the FTM-350 control head to it. 

I tried a Lido mount but couldn't stand the vibration with the heavy control head.  This mount is rock-solid and I can easily pull it out and stow it.  A few minutes staring at plumbing parts might give you a few ideas.


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: KS6PD on August 22, 2016, 03:16:25 PM
I used this Lido Mount with the AD1 Adapter to mount mine:   http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/sr88-icom.htm (http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/sr88-icom.htm)

Turned out like this:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5sNr9DvL81w/Uc4N548SFNI/AAAAAAAAQuk/LElox1E8ZR0/w506-h401-o/photo.jpg


Old thread but how to you route power to the main unit of the body? Just picked up a 2016 explorer and don't see any easy ways through the firewall


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: K0BG on August 22, 2016, 06:24:04 PM
Look on the main wiring harness grommet. There is an extra teat just for the purpose (aftermarket sound systems actually).


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: KS6PD on August 22, 2016, 06:58:18 PM
Look on the main wiring harness grommet. There is an extra teat just for the purpose (aftermarket sound systems actually).

Thanks Alan. I know you are the guru when it comes to this stuff. Unfortunately the engine compartment is so pack, I can't find one. Even if it did, where would it pop out at? Any pics you have you might be able to pass on showing this?


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: KS6PD on August 22, 2016, 07:01:55 PM
Look on the main wiring harness grommet. There is an extra teat just for the purpose (aftermarket sound systems actually).

I know you highly recommend AGAINST a cig lighter for power, in the 2016 explorer, the rear cargo space cig power adaptor is rated at 15 amps / 150 watts. What are your thoughts on using a power pole cigbuddy in this application to power a radio under the rear pass seat?


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: K0BG on August 23, 2016, 05:29:04 AM
The real issue is voltage drop. If the 2016 is like the 2015 (I highly suspect it is) the rear power outlet is wired with #16. Drawing a few mils, perhaps an amp or two, might be okay. But drawing 10 amps will drop the voltage about ≈2 volts (I really do not know how long the wire is so I can't get closer). That means the voltage will be ≈10.2 at the socket with the engine off. That is a bit too low for any modern FM transceiver.


Title: RE: Dual Band Install in a 2013 Ford Explorer
Post by: KS6PD on August 23, 2016, 09:17:48 AM
The real issue is voltage drop. If the 2016 is like the 2015 (I highly suspect it is) the rear power outlet is wired with #16. Drawing a few mils, perhaps an amp or two, might be okay. But drawing 10 amps will drop the voltage about ≈2 volts (I really do not know how long the wire is so I can't get closer). That means the voltage will be ≈10.2 at the socket with the engine off. That is a bit too low for any modern FM transceiver.

Makes perfect sense. Thanks for your insight