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Title: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KJ4OHL on May 09, 2013, 12:36:06 PM
just wondering?  I felt the most useful feature on Amsat.org was the old sat status tab, which provided a quick glance on each satellite, and quick links to the uplink and downlink for the FM and SSB transponder birds.  They also had interesting historical information on each bird. Since most of these were text and graphic files,  it would seem that it wouldn't be too difficult to re-establish these pages.  It would seem 4+ months to begin re-establishing these pages would/should be adequate.  As it is, new hams interested in operating sats have to look up each individual bird separately to get this information now.  Is this a symptom of malaise, or is the finances of Amsat in such disrepair that they can't get a webmaster to cobble this together.  The new sat status link is virtually unusable compared to the old one.  Any thoughts?


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KG4RUL on May 09, 2013, 01:41:11 PM
You are right on!  I had not looked at the AMSAT status page for a while and it does lack a WHOLE lot compared to the previous incarnation.


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KQ6EA on May 09, 2013, 04:51:42 PM
The original AMSAT website was put together and operated/maintained by volunteers.

Volunteers generally have other more pressing things to do, called "life", that sometimes inhibit their ability to keep a project like that running smoothly, or make it difficult to recover from a major crash.

If you Google for a specific satellite you can generally find it's current status.

We really don't have all that many satellites left to use, so it's not a major deal, like looking up a dozen.

Failing that, you can always use the AMSAT-UK website:

http://amsat-uk.org/satellites/frequencies-of-active-satellites/

Jim


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KO4MA on May 10, 2013, 07:28:54 PM
  Any thoughts?

Yeah, two. Are you a member, and are you interested in volunteering for the job?


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KB1PVH on May 10, 2013, 07:31:48 PM
Try this page for satellite status.
http://oscar.dcarr.org/


Dave-KB1PVH


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KQ6EA on May 10, 2013, 07:48:46 PM
Well put, Drew.


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: N4UFO on May 11, 2013, 06:36:24 AM
My personal sat cheat sheet list:

*** Mode A ***

AO-7 - OSCAR 7 Mode A
Uplink: 145.850 - 145.950 MHz
Downlink: 29.400 - 29.500 MHz (non-inverted)
Beacon: 29.502 MHz


*** Mode J ***

SO-50 - Saudisat 1C
Uplink:  145.850  PL 67.0 FM
Downlink 436.795 +/- Doppler FM  (810-780)
Timer reset: 145.850  PL 74.4

FO-29 - JAS 2
Uplink: 145.900 – 146.000 MHz
Downlink: 435.800 – 435.900 MHz (inverted)
Beacon: 435.795 MHz 12WPM with CW message

??-?? - TURKSAT-3USAT not yet active
Uplink: 145.940 to 145.990 MHz
Downlink: 435.200 to 435.250 MHz
CW Beacon or 9600 bps data: 437.225 MHz


*** Mode B ***

AO-7 - OSCAR 7 Mode B
Uplink: 432.125 - 432.175 MHz
Downlink: 145.975 - 145.925 MHz (inverted)
Beacon: 145.972 MHz

VO-52 - HAMSAT
Uplink: 435.225MHz to 435.275MHz LSB/CW
Downlink: 145.875MHz to 145.925MHz USB/CW (inverted)
Beacon: 145.860MHz 12WPM with CW message

Future/planned satellites:

Fox-1  FM: 435 up / 145 down
Funcube-1:  435 up / 145 down
UKube with FunCube-2:  435 up / 145 down
Delphi-N3xt:  435 up / 145 down


73, Kevin N4UFO


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KJ4OHL on May 21, 2013, 11:59:09 AM
Appreciate the comments, and the link to the UK version of amsat.  To KO4MA, Your two "thoughts" make my point clear.  Launching satellites and maintaining interest in satellite operations costs money, and a useful and attractive Website on the "flagship website" would probably go a long way to attracting some of the many new amateur operators entering the hobby.  I have donated to the launch funds, but a proper attention to the site would attract new membership.  If we acknowledge where the work needs to be done, we can do it.  Can anyone here look at the currant Amsat NA site and state that they think we are going to attract the membership and funding to get more satellites  launched?  I don't think so...  I know it is a great deal of work to make a quality website, but if you are trying to obtain hundreds of thousands of dollars in funding, (just like grant writing) you show a "polished" finished proposal.  the Amsat page is the "face" we show to new hobbyists AND potential donors.   


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KQ6EA on May 21, 2013, 12:13:16 PM
You should have seen the "old" website.......

Jim


Title: RE: Will they update SAT status on Amsat.org?
Post by: KB4QAA on May 22, 2013, 06:33:10 PM
Appreciate the comments, and the link to the UK version of amsat.  To KO4MA, Your two "thoughts" make my point clear.  Launching satellites and maintaining interest in satellite operations costs money, and a useful and attractive Website on the "flagship website" would probably go a long way to attracting some of the many new amateur operators entering the hobby.  I have donated to the launch funds, but a proper attention to the site would attract new membership.  If we acknowledge where the work needs to be done, we can do it.  Can anyone here look at the currant Amsat NA site and state that they think we are going to attract the membership and funding to get more satellites  launched?  I don't think so...  I know it is a great deal of work to make a quality website, but if you are trying to obtain hundreds of thousands of dollars in funding, (just like grant writing) you show a "polished" finished proposal.  the Amsat page is the "face" we show to new hobbyists AND potential donors.   
To reiterate: 
-If you are an IT security expert, donate your time
-If you are not:  Send Cash!

Yes, the new site is sparse.  The problem is that the old site was cobbled together over years and fell to hackers because it was not built to modern security standards.

Most of the old satellite information pages are available from the WayBack Machine, using your search engine.

'Satellite Status" IS available at the AMSAT site using User Reports.  A different format than we are used to, but perhaps more timely than the old page.

Cheers, bill  (Fox-1 contributor)