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Title: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: VA1CQ on May 24, 2013, 09:25:21 AM
Feeling nostalgic today. Has anybody been reading Wayne Green W2NSD lately?
http://www.waynegreen.com/wayne/news.html

You may need to be an OT to know who WG is. If you don't know, just Google his name/call.

Do you think Wayne is certifiable, or has he some good points?


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KD0REQ on May 24, 2013, 09:35:08 AM
Wayne has always seen a different color sky than the rest of us.  it was interesting in the 60s/70s as he spend most of his editorial ink on hamming.  MyCast does note there is a full moon now.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: VA1CQ on May 24, 2013, 09:40:39 AM
And that, in itself, isn't bad.

I've invited Wayne to this forum. Maybe he'll throw a few comments in...


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W1JKA on May 24, 2013, 10:16:44 AM
If Mr.Green wants to contribute to amateur radio issues FB,but if it is just repetitious knowledge of the woes of present/past government which the majority of citizens already know about and everyday fodder via all types of media but until now have done nothing about I see no point in filling eHam forums with this type of common knowledge or as you put it (points).


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: N6AJR on May 24, 2013, 04:39:50 PM
but I need my silver coliodial...


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: TANAKASAN on May 24, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
I remember Wayne Green from the 1970's when I first got my ticket, I'm surprised that he's still alive. Look around the Internet and you can find a download of all issues of 73 Magazine, it's worth a look just to show how kooky he was.

Tanakasan


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: G3RZP on May 25, 2013, 01:20:47 AM
73 was a good technical magazine in the 1960s if you ignored Wayne's rants. Then it went all repeater oriented and that was when I gave up on it.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KE3WD on May 25, 2013, 06:34:06 AM
I will never forget the time I was perusing the mags in a shop and saw on the cover of a 73 magazine the article title, "CB Vertical on 160 meters". 

Ahem.


73


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: VA1CQ on May 25, 2013, 06:42:54 AM
Why would that title cause you concern? I presume the article described how to modify a 27MHz vertical for operation on 160 meters, probably via adding a loading coil?


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: VA1CQ on May 25, 2013, 06:43:52 AM
Wayne's writings often begin in a logical manner, such as organically grown vegetables if eaten raw are healthy. The problem is he then goes on to extreme ridiculous conclusions, such as this same healthy food will cure all forms of cancer, even those almost on their cancer death beds. I've often wondered if his intention was to see how strong of a reaction readers would have to his outlandish conclusions.

So the problem is if you are reading a topic which you don't know much about, like a new technical invention, you can't trust his writing since you know from experience that he strays too far from reality.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KB4QAA on May 25, 2013, 08:32:42 AM
One ham who has known Wayne for years and who wrote articles for 73, has cautioned people not to confuse Wayne's efforts to sell magazines with his real personal beliefs!  :)

Regardless of the hoopla, I owe Wayne a debt for one editorial he wrote encouraging us to open our minds, embrace those newfangled computers and not be afraid of new modes entering the hobby.  He was right!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KE3WD on May 25, 2013, 11:59:33 AM
Why would that title cause you concern? I presume the article described how to modify a 27MHz vertical for operation on 160 meters, probably via adding a loading coil?

Not much experience on Top Band, huh? 


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: VA1CQ on May 25, 2013, 12:26:54 PM
That's the point: CB antenna on 160 meters is "practically impossible". It would make you want to read the article. It might sell the magazine. That was Wayne.

http://www.k0bg.com/couplers.html


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KE3WD on May 25, 2013, 03:50:34 PM
Um, that CB antenna loading coil for 160, did it involve the use of Colloidal Silver? 


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K0OD on May 25, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
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I remember Wayne Green from the 1970's when I first got my ticket, I'm surprised that he's still alive.

Me too. I would have guessed that Never-Say-Die died 10 years ago or more. How old is he?

Mr Cold Fusion, right?


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: VA1CQ on May 25, 2013, 07:34:36 PM
Wayne is around 91 years old, assuming he's still alive.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K8AXW on May 25, 2013, 07:58:14 PM
I remember Wayne Greene quite well.  At one time he was well ahead of his time..... back when almost everyone was using separate transmitters/receivers, each weighing around 70lbs....Wayne advocated small box transceivers.  I considered this blasphemy.

I wrote him a nasty reply to one of his rants and we had a contemptuous back and forth for about a month.  He wasn't one to back off from any opinion he had formed.

Then in later years he started running on the crossties and I stopped reading him.  I too am surprised he's still with us.



Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: G3RZP on May 26, 2013, 05:41:32 AM
He has a web site with a 2012 date on it and adverts for wacky books.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K1CJS on May 26, 2013, 05:55:09 AM
Not that I agree with some of his wacky ideas, but his main purpose in life was to make his readers think.  Look outside the box.  Use their brains instead of taking for granted all the bulldookey that floats around about things.

I think he did that quite well.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KE3WD on May 26, 2013, 06:32:31 AM
Entertainment. 

It can be a quite viable business here. 


73


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: N2EY on May 29, 2013, 02:33:17 PM
Ol' Never Say Die never lets facts or logic get in the way of a good rant.

AFAIK he's still around. I encountered him on another forum sometime back and he made a whole bunch of statements about ham radio in the 1960s-70s that were just plain wrong and easily disproved if you knew the facts.

So I did.

He wasn't exactly happy that somebody could answer back, and soon departed.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KD0REQ on May 31, 2013, 09:28:57 AM
you know, all this bashing, Wayne might be so shocked he'll fall right off his unicorn ;)


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K7DAA on June 01, 2013, 01:19:59 AM
Wayne was/is ahead of his time in many things, and in a parallel universe on a few others. 

And he's still very much alive.

I always enjoyed reading his editorials, and he had some very progressive views on subjects such as education, where ham radio was going, computerization of many things, and computers themselves.  He started Byte Magazine, which was a very well-respected computer mag, and one of the very first.  I respect his many contributions.

That said, he certainly did rant and rant about the ARRL, governments in general, cold fusion, blood cleansing, electro-stimulation, strange health foods and health practices, the wrongs of traditional doctors and the medical profession, prescription drugs, etc, etc.

He's certainly outlived many of his overweight, chain-smoking detractors, though, so he isn't completely loony toons about the healthy-living stuff he preached about...and still practices today.

I don't think Wayne ever produced anything that was boring or pedestrian.  Ya gotta respect him for that!

Here's to you, Wayne!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KA4DPO on June 02, 2013, 07:47:33 AM
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I remember Wayne Green from the 1970's when I first got my ticket, I'm surprised that he's still alive.

Me too. I would have guessed that Never-Say-Die died 10 years ago or more. How old is he?

Mr Cold Fusion, right?

I would say that Wayne must be close to 90 by now but he is still going.  He was never in the mainstream of amateur radio but no one can deny that he is an intelligent man.  Wayne did help to shape the hobby and as an avid home brewer in the 60's through the 80's 73 magazine was always one of my favorites.

Who knows, maybe cold fusion really will work some day.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: G3RZP on June 02, 2013, 08:01:20 AM
His License info indicates his license expired in July 2012.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KG6AF on June 02, 2013, 09:02:55 AM
His License info indicates his license expired in July 2012.

Not according to the FCC: his license expires in July, 2017.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: G3RZP on June 03, 2013, 12:18:23 AM
QRZ isn't up to date then.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K1CJS on June 03, 2013, 04:48:52 AM
QRZ isn't up to date then.

This site gets their lookup feed from QRZ, and I just looked--his expiration date IS indicated as 2017.  Since the date is shown with the year first, then the month and the day, (Expiration Date: 2017-07-02) are you sure you just didn't look and see the '2' at the end and mistook that for the year?  Most of us are used to seeing the year after the month and day, not before.  No offense intended, I'm just asking.  73!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W9FIB on June 03, 2013, 05:59:24 PM
Pure entertainment! I remember many QSOs that were started by his rants. Some were serious when Wayne dabbled with serious subjects. But most were just hilarious when his name came up. The key was to not take him all that seriously and treat it as comedy. Those QSOs back then were much better then others on the bands at the time complaining, in profane language, of getting pink slips for using profane language!

Thanks for the laughs Wayne!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: WB5ITT on June 03, 2013, 07:40:24 PM
Ol' Never Say Die never lets facts or logic get in the way of a good rant.


Ohh just like the hot air on AM radio these days called Limbaugh....(how many times I have caught him in lies)


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KE3WD on June 04, 2013, 07:05:37 AM
Ohh just like the hot air on AM radio these days called Limbaugh....(how many times I have caught him in lies)

Care to list some of those for us? 

In context, with actual facts? 



Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K8AXW on June 04, 2013, 09:24:16 AM
Yea, list some.  Was going to ask the same question but figured, "what the hell."  Another libtart!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W1JKA on June 04, 2013, 11:09:10 AM
I think he lost his list in the laundry or it went down the toilet with the rest of the ___.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: AE4RV on June 04, 2013, 11:28:05 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rush+limbaugh+fact+check
 :D


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KE3WD on June 04, 2013, 01:24:10 PM
Those of us who have actually taken the time to listen and find out for ourselves know who is doing the real lying...


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KB7XU on June 08, 2013, 07:37:09 AM
I really liked 73.  Green published it in what is called a "perfect" binding and had the table of contents right on cover one (front cover) where it's most useful.  I also enjoyed 73 because the project construction articles were usually achieveable by the average ham.  I really miss 73.
I always enjoyed his editorials as well.  They were always interesting and the subject matter wasn't
always ham radio.  I remember one where he was ranting along about something or another and then
right in the middle of the editorial he managed to squeeze in a recipe for old-time New Hampshire applesauce that he
enjoyed.   ;D  I wish him well.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KA4DPO on June 08, 2013, 09:05:20 AM
I really liked 73.  Green published it in what is called a "perfect" binding and had the table of contents right on cover one (front cover) where it's most useful.  I also enjoyed 73 because the project construction articles were usually achieveable by the average ham.  I really miss 73.
I always enjoyed his editorials as well.  They were always interesting and the subject matter wasn't
always ham radio.  I remember one where he was ranting along about something or another and then
right in the middle of the editorial he managed to squeeze in a recipe for old-time New Hampshire applesauce that he
enjoyed.   ;D  I wish him well.

I totally agree.  If you were into home brewing ham gear 73 was way better than QST, at least in the 70's and 80's.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K1DA on June 18, 2013, 11:59:54 AM
He lost me when he started to whine about how he couldn't get the ignition noise out of his CB radio.  You're a HAM, Wayne baby, you PUBLISH an amateur magazine, rretend it's TEN meters  and go from there.  Plenty of info, IF you could b ring yourself to read an ARRL publication.  Apparently he could not. 


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K8AXW on June 18, 2013, 08:02:13 PM
I too miss 73 magazine.  It was a fun read with very nice construction articles.  As for reading the editorials, I did those like I do everything else. I either read them or skipped them. 

Which is what we all should be doing instead of trying to change everyone to our way of thinking. 

Wayne's obsession with the ARRL was over the top.  If he would have left ARRL alone and concentrated on his publication things would have gone much better for him and his magazine.  73 is sorely missed, as well as CQ.



Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: G3RZP on June 19, 2013, 04:46:26 AM
I always felt it was good until it turned into '2m FM Repeater user monthly' in the early 70s.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: N3DF on June 19, 2013, 10:08:28 AM

I totally agree.  If you were into home brewing ham gear 73 was way better than QST, at least in the 70's and 80's.
[/quote]

I don't agree at all.  73 had more homebrew articles.  However, QST's projects were selected for suitability; constructed and tested in ARRL's laboratory; and carefully edited.  73's projects were none of the above. 


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KE3WD on June 19, 2013, 03:24:26 PM
What? 

Are you saying that the Big Bright Green Colloidal Silver Machine was a bad project? 


*grin*




Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W0BTU on June 19, 2013, 08:40:31 PM
I don't agree at all.  73 had more homebrew articles.  However, QST's projects were selected for suitability; constructed and tested in ARRL's laboratory; and carefully edited.  73's projects were none of the above.  

Exactly! I forget the details, but I recall one project published that was actually dangerous to build. It was sent in in the 1970's as a gag (or test) of sorts. And amazingly, 73 actually printed it.

Ask W8JI about it. I remember him talking about it on the 147.375 repeater in Toledo, OH many years ago. IIRC, he actually called Wayne Green about this, and Wayne's defense was "Why would anybody [who sends in technical articles to be published] want to lie to us?". Amazing.

Look at the page of editors' names, etc. in some 73 magazines of that era. The lack of a technical editor was glaringly obvious.

QST was better back then, yes. But no ham magazine published in the USA were better than Ham Radio before Jim Fisk, W1HR, died.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: VA1CQ on January 26, 2014, 01:59:15 PM
For the record, Wayne Green W2NSD/1 died September 15, 2013. http://www.arrl.org/news/ham-radio-publications-pioneer-visionary-iconoclast-wayne-green-w2nsd-sk


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W7ASA on January 27, 2014, 07:01:07 AM
For me, I enjoyed 73 magazine and Wayne Green's editorials were just that - his opinion.  The technical articles I found to be a big draw, in that there were many practical projects, some of which I built.  73 Publications' books were excellent and i learned a LOT from such things as

> RTTY/ASCII and how it all worked mechanically, then digitally,

>  Computers for hamming, with computer programming communication using reworked Bell modems for RTTY/ASCII. //ARRL at that time fought ASCII tooth-and-nail ' ..because the FCC will not be able to monitor...'  what nonsense!//

>  The Weather Satellite Handbook carried by them was excellent and through it I learned to write my own programs on the tiny ZX80 & 81 (1K and 2 K machines - I'm STILL frugal with writing code) for orbital dynamics .

>  DDRR antennas for HF through 2 meters.

>  I ALSO remember when he had the series of articles about Phone Phreaking, how the telco system actually worked and etc. .  Ma'Ball tried to sue.

>  Then there was his article or two about spoofing traffic radar, including a frequency -v- speed compensating idea so that whether you're driving 5 , 55 or 105, the radar of that time period would doppler to your pre-set speed indicated!  Man, I laughed myself silly over that one. //He probably got pulled-over for speeding and decided it was time for a little electronic warfare. //

73 was always a good read for me.  It was generally filled with new and interesting ideas with practical experiments (and the occasional 'ozone generator for health ...  - well, can't win'em all.)   Each month overseas, I'd buy it as soon at it showed-up in the nearest PX.



73 de Ray
W7ASA ..._   ._

Ps.  If we want to poke fun at his health views, he was healthier at 91 than most of us are at 50, 60, 70 ... , so maybe there was something to it.

 




Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KV4BL on January 27, 2014, 07:49:21 AM
For the record, Wayne Green W2NSD/1 died September 15, 2013. http://www.arrl.org/news/ham-radio-publications-pioneer-visionary-iconoclast-wayne-green-w2nsd-sk

Oh man, I am sorry to hear of Wayne's passing. :(   He was a colorful and productive member of the ham community.  I enjoyed reading his "73 Magazine" back in the early 1970's,  before I was a ham or while I was a Novice, in my teens. 

RIP Wayne.  They broke the mold after they made you.

73,
Ray  KV4BL


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K1CJS on January 27, 2014, 08:24:30 AM
They didn't break it--they shattered it!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: N9KX on January 27, 2014, 09:59:41 AM
Ohh just like the hot air on AM radio these days called Limbaugh....(how many times I have caught him in lies)

Care to list some of those for us? 

In context, with actual facts? 


really???  http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/01/07/25-examples-that-prove-rush-limbaugh-is-a-low-i/192085 (http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/01/07/25-examples-that-prove-rush-limbaugh-is-a-low-i/192085)

Rush Limbaugh has gotten filthy rich through disinformation and entertaining hot air.  Instead of encouraging respect for political opponents and encouraging real debate, he spreads hate and demonization of 'libtards' and throws dirt on respectable conservative perspectives through his bombastic nonsense.

however, he does laugh all the way to the bank.  no doubt it was men like him that had Mark Twain quip that a lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still putting its boots on. 



Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W7ASA on January 27, 2014, 01:17:36 PM
Does this 2 party political manure have anything to do with Wayne Greene?  Aaah, I didn't think so.


>de W7ASA ..._   ._


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: N9KX on January 27, 2014, 01:38:31 PM
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One ham who has known Wayne for years and who wrote articles for 73, has cautioned people not to confuse Wayne's efforts to sell magazines with his real personal beliefs!

i think the correlation regarded Rush Limbaugh's willingness to use faulty arguments to make (a great deal of) money  ???

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rush-limbaugh-net-worth/ (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rush-limbaugh-net-worth/)

although obviously Wayne Green isn't in that league...


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K7KBN on January 28, 2014, 11:36:44 AM
The mold was broken just BEFORE Wayne was born... ;D

...explains a few of the cracks.  Now where'd I put my colloidal silver?


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: N9KX on January 29, 2014, 08:52:08 AM
The mold was broken just BEFORE Wayne was born... ;D

...explains a few of the cracks.  Now where'd I put my colloidal silver?

i just had to see more http://www.waynegreen.com/wayne/waynesays.html (http://www.waynegreen.com/wayne/waynesays.html)  :D  ;D ::) :D


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K1DA on January 31, 2014, 09:47:43 AM
Did Rush ever say "You can keep your healthcare"?


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W9GB on January 31, 2014, 09:59:39 AM
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QST was better back then, yes. But no ham magazine published in the USA were better than Ham Radio before Jim Fisk, W1HR, died.
Amen.  In high school, I learned more about (then new) logic and linear ICs -- such as 7400 series -- reading Ham Radio, than was available in text books (printing and usage trailed developments 3 to 5 years).  QST started a similar set of educational articles later.

Ziff-Davis pivoted in mid-1970s changing focus from Popular Electronics to focus on new hobby computers (PCWeek and Apple magazines were born).  BTW, Wayne did same with founding of Byte magazine in mid-1970s.

Wayne had chance to be multi-millionaire, but his wife, Virginia grabbed company in late 1975.
She sold it to McGraw Hill in 1979.  Tidy profit for 4 years of work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_(magazine)


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K8AG on February 01, 2014, 02:47:00 PM
Wayne always reminded me of Hugo Gernsback.  Hugo was very instrumental in popularizing radio even during WW1 when things were tough.  Take a look at http://www.americanradiohistory.com/index.htm.  Some really early radio publications, many by Gernsback.  Amazing what we didn't know only 90 years ago.  Spark was still king.  Audion (triode tube) radios were the latest technology.  And the longer the wavelength the longer the distance (or so they thought back then).

I miss Wayne.  He was entertaining.

73 ;-) JP, K8AG


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: G3RZP on February 02, 2014, 12:16:58 AM
I agree about Ham Radio magazine. The only bad thing about it was (and still is) the number of errors in the indexes. But I have all the issues on CD. QEX has sort of taken that slot, but doesn't have the number of articles in each issue that HR did.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: WI8P on February 02, 2014, 10:15:13 AM
Did Rush ever say "You can keep your healthcare"?

No, but then again, I never heard him say he was drug addict either.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KA8FHW on February 05, 2014, 08:10:45 PM
I can see we have some spoiled apathetic brats on the forum. If people are well informed, they will be able to make wise decicions. At least Wayne doesn't sit still, and rants or not, He's using his brain.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: N7BMW on February 06, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
I can see we have some spoiled apathetic brats on the forum. If people are well informed, they will be able to make wise decicions. At least Wayne doesn't sit still, and rants or not, He's using his brain.

Not anymore.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: VK3ZIE on February 06, 2014, 11:20:14 PM
I would be happy to know if Wayne is still alive.  I was a subscriber to 73 Mag back in the 60s and 70s, and whilst it was not a very high tech mag, the practical side of the articles was of inestimable benefit.  I had a Uni Degree in electronics, so the theory was just needing the practical flavour to get on-air results.   Back in those days, there was much more homebrewing done, so the mag copies were well thumbed.  You needed to be a selective reader if you did not want to follow his ranting, and that was just easy to do.
Long live NSD.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: G3RZP on February 08, 2014, 01:17:01 AM
VK3ZIE,

See reply #45 from KV4BL


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KG8LB on May 13, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
Ol' Never Say Die never lets facts or logic get in the way of a good rant.


Ohh just like the hot air on AM radio these days called Limbaugh....(how many times I have caught him in lies)

  A few , but then again he has been on the air for a long time . The current president gets caught hourly .


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KB4QAA on May 14, 2014, 11:29:31 AM
Ol' Never Say Die never lets facts or logic get in the way of a good rant.


Ohh just like the hot air on AM radio these days called Limbaugh....(how many times I have caught him in lies)

  A few , but then again he has been on the air for a long time . The current president gets caught hourly .
Leave the politics at home.  This web site is about radio!!!   or take you stuff to QRZed.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W9FIB on May 14, 2014, 11:58:57 AM
Leave the politics at home.  This web site is about radio!!!   or take you stuff to QRZed.

Why??? Wayne Green was politically incorrect, so why not the posters as well?  ;)


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KG8LB on May 16, 2014, 01:27:17 PM
Ol' Never Say Die never lets facts or logic get in the way of a good rant.


Ohh just like the hot air on AM radio these days called Limbaugh....(how many times I have caught him in lies)

  A few , but then again he has been on the air for a long time . The current president gets caught hourly .
Leave the politics at home.  This web site is about radio!!!   or take you stuff to QRZed.
"Leave the politics at home "
Or what ?
 Are you a MODERATOR ? Seems politics was injected earlier .  Rush is on the radio .  I am no fan of Rush  but if some drive by opportunist  cares to bring up the subject of liars in the political circus ,they should expect a response . 

 The header of the topic is "miscellaneous" after all  . Get over it
 


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KB4QAA on May 16, 2014, 07:12:49 PM
Get over yourself.  Leave the politics at home or take them to QRZed, where whackos dwell.

I state this position with all the authority and weight of a long time eHam member who doesn't want to see another ham website lost to the political ravings so common these days.

KEEP IT RADIO RELATED!!!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K7JBQ on May 16, 2014, 07:45:39 PM
Please don't.

Sincerely,
Bill, K7JBQ
One of the QRZ.com moderators


Get over yourself.  Leave the politics at home or take them to QRZed, where whackos dwell.


KEEP IT RADIO RELATED!!!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KG8LB on May 17, 2014, 12:00:28 PM
Get over yourself.  Leave the politics at home or take them to QRZed, where whackos dwell.



KEEP IT RADIO RELATED!!!

 Or what  ???

 I have never read the forums at QRZ but I can tell at least ONE of the FORMER whackos wound up here  :D

    Again , This is the miscellaneous section , don't like what I write , don't read it . Don't like political comments , run back thru the thread to where that first appeared .
  If you like your health care , you can keep it . (Or was that a lie?)


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: W9FIB on May 17, 2014, 06:22:32 PM
Get over yourself.  Leave the politics at home or take them to QRZed, where whackos dwell.

I state this position with all the authority and weight of a long time eHam member who doesn't want to see another ham website lost to the political ravings so common these days.

KEEP IT RADIO RELATED!!!

Your too late. It has already happened and will continue to happen and probably will well into the future.

The problem today is too many people take themselves way too seriously. I to this day can't decide if Wayne Green was as serious as he sounded in his writings. Sometimes they bordered on humor and I wonder if that was more the point to what he wrote.

But I also believe that we need more like him. This "I am better then you" attitude is part of the problem. If Wayne could say what he wanted, why can't others? And why can't the others do it in a way that you may learn something and at the same time may get a good laugh.

But alas, its too late. Only thing left are those with their idea or nothing. I enjoy challenging that. Some people don't like that. But I say who cares? If your opinion is the only one to have then we might as well go back to the way the old Soviet Union contacts were like. Call sign, signal report and out of there. Boring and mundane contacts. Is that really what you want from the forums as well?

I sure don't!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KG8LB on May 18, 2014, 12:06:48 PM
  From recollection , much of what Wayne wrote was thinly veiled cynicism .  Wayne often brought topics to light that had little if anything to do with amateur radio , glad he did .

     Of course , the magazine in it's hey-day was first rate , loaded with good articles and information . The covers were spiffy at times as well . Wayne seemed to have an eye for pin-up quality cover photos at times . There were always the prudes who whined about the pics along with the commentary . Wayne's attitude was appropriate . Don't like the cover , don't buy the magazine , don't like what I say , don't read it .

  I liked Wayne and his magazine .


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KA5PIU on June 10, 2014, 10:25:13 PM
Hello.

First off, yes, you can take a CB antenna and make a poor 160 meter antenna.
So, why try? why not?
Wayne Green would fit in perfect in with most hams.
Who knows? there is Karol Madera, Wayne Green was a model ham compared to him.
I have met hundreds of hams in my life, and most I try to stay away from!
They can be fun to talk to, but it is like a visit to the zoo vs your dog or cat, sure, they are interesting, but would you take any home with you?
Cats make excellent indoor pets!
Hams, not so good!



Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: G3RZP on June 11, 2014, 12:49:03 AM
I found 73 to be an excellent magazine in the mid to late 1960s. The problem was that once Wayne got a bee in his bonnet about something, the whole magazine lurched that way - FM and repeaters was an example. That's when I stopped subscribing.


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KA5PIU on June 11, 2014, 04:18:20 AM
Hello.

That is why he should have had a column, like a newspaper.
(I) for one, will tell you, that more wars have been fought over religion and politics than anything.
I may not like Obama, but he is our President.
I may not like what you say, but, within reason, it is your right to say what you want.
Karol Madera is out in left field, but he has an awful lot of support where it counts, Canada.
Did you know that Karol Madera had a legal defense fund set up for him?
You can now legally go to Cuba, in part over all of the noise I made.
I do not smoke, anything, but think the drug laws in this country do not work.
Gays in the military? and? the point being?
This is the USA, and a lot of things are going to change.
If free enterprise works so well , why does China all but own the USA?
And, why is it that lawmakers are all but banning the import of Chinese cars?
Don't look now, but they are building them in the USA!
http://www.tigertruck.com/
And, how about an all new design?
http://eliomotors.wordpress.com/
Anyhow, the only thing constant is change!


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: K8AXW on June 11, 2014, 08:27:01 AM
Wayne Green and 73 magazine was part of my long ham career.  Initially, Wayne turned me off because he advocated such things as a transceiver! 

This was during the time that a real ham shack consisted of a 70lb receiver and a 70lb transmitter, along with outboard items like an antenna changeover relay and a load of other things that are now included in the typical ham transceiver.

Wayne was at one time a visionary.  He rubbed people the wrong way because of this. 

PIU:  He did have a column, in 73 magazine and this is where he presented his vision of ham radio and also his vents.

Unfortunately, as Wayne got older he fell into the "aluminum foil hat" category and that's when he started to lose credibility.  The articles he published in his later years were disjointed and quite often, irrational.  It was very sad seeing this.

As for his magazine, 73, it was a classic.  I really liked that magazine.

As for these political rants here on eHam; I have to agree that it's really not the place for it but sometimes one can't help but to jab at the present administration.

If one must "jab," fine, but let's not let it turn into a war of words.   
 


Title: RE: Wayne Green W2NSD
Post by: KA5PIU on June 11, 2014, 09:17:37 PM
Hello.

He went off on the JFK shooting, and brought up some valid points.

Oswald leaves the Marines with a not so great record, and goes to the USSR.
Now, after being in the USSR, he simply leaves?!
Than, he gets a job with the state  government of Texas?! Texas is the most oppressing state when it comes to "Commies".
And, he brings a rifle into the state building.
He gets arrested, but before he can say anything, under armed escort, he gets killed by Jack Ruby.
All the facts.
The rest, the holistic wonder cure for all that ails you?
Toward the end, the guy was getting into drugs.