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Title: Untidy Shacks
Post by: TANAKASAN on June 21, 2013, 03:39:41 AM
It's been two years since Bob Pease of National Semiconductor died and a friend just sent me this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkMy6oEzif4

If your XYL ever complains about an untidy shack then just show her this video  ;D

Tanakasan


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: G0VKT on June 21, 2013, 04:55:04 AM
Personally I believe that an overly tidy desk implies a disturbed mind.
But it is possible to go too far the other way ;D

Paul.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: G3RZP on June 21, 2013, 05:13:59 AM
When we had a 'clean desk' policy introduced, I was not popular with management (but then, I rarely was) for putting up a sign saying 'Empty desk - empty mind'. But his desk was somewhat worse than mine.....not much.

I only met Bob a couple of times - the last was when I was invited to dinner at G4CLF's house and Bob was there too. A great guy. So we had National Semiconductors, Analog Devices and GEC-Plessey Semiconductors applications people together that night.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 21, 2013, 06:08:16 AM
My kinda work environment. 

Personal.

I bet he knew where *everything* was, too.


and that his work flow was downright effiecient - but only for him.  a one man shop situation.


And secure.  When theives break in, they take one look and scoot.  Too much work for a thief.



73


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: K8AXW on June 21, 2013, 08:26:49 AM
I've never understood how'n the hell anyone can work in that environment!  It's going to take the rest of the day to get those scenes out of my mind.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: NK7Z on June 21, 2013, 10:08:38 AM
I've never understood how'n the hell anyone can work in that environment!  It's going to take the rest of the day to get those scenes out of my mind.
I must agree...  I am now looking for some virtual soap to wash out my mind.  There are just some things you can't unsee...


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 21, 2013, 10:50:43 AM
A WONDERFUL place.   


I'll take it.


Um, yer leavin' the refrigerator on the porch for me, right?



73


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: NK7Z on June 21, 2013, 12:10:55 PM
A WONDERFUL place.   


I'll take it.


Um, yer leavin' the refrigerator on the porch for me, right?



73
No...  It's right behind the 1974 dodge, (the one without the engine in it, the one with the engine is for sale), and to the left...


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: W1JKA on June 22, 2013, 06:58:03 AM
Kinda homey looking,reminds me of Paula Dean comfort food.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: TANAKASAN on June 22, 2013, 08:43:15 AM
It's mentioned somewhere in one of the stories but Sherlock Holmes' study at 221B Baker Street was supposed to be in a similar state. The great man used to index files by the thickness of dust on the cover but one morning Mrs Hudson went around with her feather duster and after that he could never find anything.

History repeating itself?

Tanakasan


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: SWL2002 on June 22, 2013, 12:58:31 PM
Some people are just slobs plain and simple.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KG4RUL on June 22, 2013, 01:30:39 PM
Some people are just slobs plain and simple.

YEP!

And we are happy.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 22, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
Back when I was in college, music school then up in Boston, my roomate and I came home to our rather run down apartment to find the door lock kicked in. 

Oh no, our instruments were in there, his violin was worth quite a lot, my trumpets were worth less than the one violin was, but still a considerable sum. 

Apparently whoever kicked in the door to rob us took one look at the front room with the stacked beer cans, magazines everywhere, the broken couch and chair in front of the TV with no back on it -- and simply turned around and left. 

All instruments were still there in our bedrooms, along with everything else. 

Sometimes an untidy mess can represent SECURITY.


73


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: K8AXW on June 22, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
WD:  It couldn't have been too bad or the burglar would have come back to donate something!


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: K0OD on June 22, 2013, 10:16:22 PM
Einstein's desk (and smoking pipe) on the day he died in 1955:
http://life.time.com/history/the-day-albert-einstein-died-photos-from-princeton-april-18-1955/#1


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: AC2EU on June 23, 2013, 06:38:22 AM
Einstein's desk (and smoking pipe) on the day he died in 1955:
http://life.time.com/history/the-day-albert-einstein-died-photos-from-princeton-april-18-1955/#1


Ok, there was a certain messy order to Einstein's area if you look carefully at his desk.( more my style!) Mr Pease's office looked like he was a candidate for the "Hoarders, Buried Alive" show. I'm surprised that the fire Marshall allowed it. I'm sure he was a great guy, but I wouldn't want to have lived with him.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: SWL2002 on June 23, 2013, 09:04:02 AM
Einstein's desk (and smoking pipe) on the day he died in 1955:
http://life.time.com/history/the-day-albert-einstein-died-photos-from-princeton-april-18-1955/#1


Ok, there was a certain messy order to Einstein's area if you look carefully at his desk.( more my style!) Mr Pease's office looked like he was a candidate for the "Hoarders, Buried Alive" show. I'm surprised that the fire Marshall allowed it. I'm sure he was a great guy, but I wouldn't want to have lived with him.

Einstein's desk looked normal.  Pease's desk was a dirty pig stye.  No excuse for that kind of mess no matter how smart or indispensable someone is perceived to be.

I bet his personal hygiene was not much better.  Like too many Hams.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: WB6DGN on June 23, 2013, 11:48:31 PM
Quote
Einstein's desk looked normal.  Pease's desk was a dirty pig stye.  No excuse for that kind of mess no matter how smart or indispensable someone is perceived to be.
I bet his personal hygiene was not much better.  Like too many Hams.

SWL2002,
Bob Pease was a highly respected engineer and manager, most recently at National Semiconductor and wrote a column for "Electronic Design" magazine.
I can't help but wonder what YOUR credentials read like.  Oh!  And. the word as used in that context, is spelled "sty".


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 24, 2013, 07:17:25 AM
I am thinking of a two word phrase ending in "retentive"...


 ;D


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: SWL2002 on June 24, 2013, 07:49:48 AM
Quote
Einstein's desk looked normal.  Pease's desk was a dirty pig stye.  No excuse for that kind of mess no matter how smart or indispensable someone is perceived to be.
I bet his personal hygiene was not much better.  Like too many Hams.

SWL2002,
Bob Pease was a highly respected engineer and manager, most recently at National Semiconductor and wrote a column for "Electronic Design" magazine.
I can't help but wonder what YOUR credentials read like.  Oh!  And. the word as used in that context, is spelled "sty".

Hello Einstein wannabe, I know who Bob Pease was and I certainly read his columns for Electronic Design.  Does not mean he had good hygiene or good manners. The condition of his office demonstrates that he had no respect or concern for others.  Who wants to be in the cubical next to a dirty, stinky genius?  I bet he even wrote an article entitled "What's All This Soapy Stuff, Anyhow?".

And thanks for your Anal Retentive spelling check.  I wonder how many of your posts on eHam have typographical errors?



Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 24, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
Actually, what I was thinking goes toward both of ya'll...


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: SWL2002 on June 24, 2013, 11:14:25 AM
Actually, what I was thinking goes toward both of ya'll...

So?


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: W1JKA on June 24, 2013, 11:28:22 AM
 What a Mess this is turning intwo(sic): 2 to 1 odds on SWL,even odds on WB6- any takers?


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: N2MG on June 24, 2013, 12:50:33 PM
Please get back on topic.

-The Warden


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: WB6DGN on June 24, 2013, 01:13:56 PM
Aw!  Now that was a crummy thing to do.  I won't be in a big hurry to participate in this site any further.  NO sense of humor, Mike!
TA (how I sign when I'm pissed)


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: AD6KA on June 24, 2013, 03:47:41 PM
Remember when QST (or was it CQ?) used to sponsor
an annual "Messiest Shack Contest"?
Folks used to
send in some pretty amazing photos of junk piled
on every available free space.

Not sure WHY they had the contest, besides it
being somehat humorous. I *think* they stopped
it for several reasons:

1) Some people thought it was "OK'ing", in a backhanded way,
unsafe electrical hookups, as well as trip & fall hazards.

2) It started to become fairly obvious that these "shacks"
were created just for the photo contest. Like moving all
of your dead test gear and dead radios from the garage
into the "shack", piling it on tables, the floor, and calling
it a "station". Then after the photo was taken, moving
it all back to the garage.

3) I think there were a few hams murdered by their XYL's
over these conditions. (Just kidding).  ;D

Any oldtimers remember what year they discontinued
that photo "contest"?

TNX ES 73, Ken  AD6KA


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 24, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
I don't remember when they discontinued that contest, but a real picture of my real shack at the time was one of the ones that many thought was a setup. 

It wasn't. 


But at that time, my operating bench was also my test bench...


73


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: K1CJS on June 25, 2013, 04:36:32 AM
Remember when QST (or was it CQ?) used to sponsor
an annual "Messiest Shack Contest"?
Folks used to
send in some pretty amazing photos of junk piled
on every available free space....

I think it was QST, and I think it just fell out of favor.  BTW, it was never a 'contest' so to speak, it was just a 'send in your picture' type thing.  They (the editors) stopped getting so many pictures of genuine messy shacks (as you said, some were purposefully 'done up') and it just stopped from lack of interest.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: TANAKASAN on June 25, 2013, 05:51:01 AM
I don't remember when they discontinued that contest, but a real picture of my real shack at the time was one of the ones that many thought was a setup.

It wasn't.

As they say, pictures or it didn't happen

Tanakasan


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 25, 2013, 07:39:14 AM
I think my identical cousin, also a ham, may have the original snapshot, will have to ask him about that next time I see him. 



Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: N2MG on June 26, 2013, 12:41:07 PM
Aw!  Now that was a crummy thing to do.  I won't be in a big hurry to participate in this site any further.  NO sense of humor, Mike!
TA (how I sign when I'm pissed)
It wasn't my intention to piss anyone off.  I deleted your first
post because it was not on topic and then your second one because it
was then an orphan.

To me it actually seemed like the courteous thing to do.

Sorry if it offended you.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: WB8VLC on June 26, 2013, 10:08:03 PM
KE3WD, we had the same thing happen at a house several friends and I lived in near ArizonaState University back in the early 1980's only with us the intruders left a sorry note and 10 dollars. The note said sometning about our house making the potential thieves feel better about themselves.


Bob Pease and Jim Williams, messy desk and genius minds.

Once you clean it up you'll never be able to find anything, 5 S totally sucks and it's for bean counters only not true designers.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 27, 2013, 01:07:10 PM
KE3WD, we had the same thing happen at a house several friends and I lived in near ArizonaState University back in the early 1980's only with us the intruders left a sorry note and 10 dollars. The note said sometning about our house making the potential thieves feel better about themselves.


I can only figure that we did not receive a donation because of the cheap yankee thieves up around Roxbury, Boston MA 

Liberals ain't too generous about charity donations, y'know...


73


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: VE3FMC on June 27, 2013, 02:50:46 PM
Dirty sloppy shacks and operating desks mean one thing to me. Slob. Like those who bring radios to flea markets and the rig is covered in dust etc. That shows me that the owner doesn't not take care of his equipment properly.

Clean it up.


Title: RE: Untidy Shacks
Post by: KE3WD on June 28, 2013, 07:58:07 AM
Dirty sloppy shacks and operating desks mean one thing to me. Slob. Like those who bring radios to flea markets and the rig is covered in dust etc. That shows me that the owner doesn't not take care of his equipment properly.

Clean it up.

Right now I'm remembering the huge pile of KWM2's, dented, dirty, some with broken meter faces, that we used to pick from when I served in the USAF. 

Nasty looking, they were well taken care of where it counted, and turned in "yeoman's duty" 24-7-365. 

And think about this - by now most of them are in somebody's ham shack, refurbished, and still turning in that kind of performance. 

But that's cool, the old bromide about one man's meat and another man's poison applies.  You buy the great looking ones, I'll save money on the ugly ones.  Kinda like the way I treated choice of girlfriends back when I was younger.  She wasn't the best looker on the campus, but then again she was faithful and low maintenance...

73