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Title: Morse reader software question.
Post by: KA0HVE on July 15, 2013, 09:02:04 AM
I don't have any Morse Code software on my laptop so I can't try this myself yet.

In order to improve my sending skill can I put the laptop microphone near the code practice oscillator speaker so the software can read what I'm sending?  If that will work it will let me practice with some feedback from the software.

Thanks,
Dan - KA0HVE


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: DJ1YFK on July 15, 2013, 10:04:29 AM
Dan,

that's an excellent way of honing your transmission skills.

Some pointers for software you may find useful for this:
- EHOmorse by F8EHO: http://www.f8eho.net/content/about-ehocw
- CWget and CWtype by UA9OV: CWget is a decoder, CWtype also allows connecting a paddle to the parallel port of the PC and the program acts as an electronic keyer
- KV by DF4KV. Similar to CWtype, but for DOS, good if you have an old DOS laptop that's looking for a useful task: http://www.qsl.net/df4kv/computer.html#kv
- http://lcwo.net/transmit (with the Mouse key - more of a toy than a tool though)

73
Fabian


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: K0JEG on July 15, 2013, 06:31:21 PM
I don't have any Morse Code software on my laptop so I can't try this myself yet.

In order to improve my sending skill can I put the laptop microphone near the code practice oscillator speaker so the software can read what I'm sending?  If that will work it will let me practice with some feedback from the software.

Thanks,
Dan - KA0HVE

That's exactly what I'm doing right now, just put a PC headset microphone next to my radio's speaker and sending the audio to FLDIGI in CW mode. It can also send text a sentence at a time, which I can then repeat back. Yes there are plenty of training programs that do the same thing, but I can just paste text into the sending field, try it, then paste again to practice again. I suppose I might be anticipating the next letter, having read the text already, but it seems to be helping.


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: KD8MJR on July 15, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
CWget is the best I have used but I am also eyeing HRD 6.1 to see what it can do.


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: W5CPT on July 16, 2013, 06:52:01 AM
Remember that any computer CW program is very intolerant of a “sloppy fist”.  It will copy machine code very well, but get your spacing a bit off and they will return gibberish.  I say this so you do not get frustrated if the program does not work for this. 

I use CWGet to copy the DXpeditions and rare contest stations when they send at speeds I cannot handle.  They mostly are using pre-programmed CW so it works fine for that.


Clint – W5CPT -


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: KA0HVE on July 16, 2013, 08:46:52 AM
Yep, I'm aware that the code has to be good to decode but I'm not sure just how good.  If I get good enough that a decoder can figure it out then a human should be able to, at least that's my assumption.


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: DJ1YFK on July 17, 2013, 11:59:34 AM
Yep, I'm aware that the code has to be good to decode but I'm not sure just how good.  If I get good enough that a decoder can figure it out then a human should be able to, at least that's my assumption.
Absolutely.

Another link which I omitted in my list above:
- HQX Morsetrainer by HB9HQX, which also includes TX training:  http://htc.ch/de/hqx-morsetrainer

73
Fabian


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: WB2EOD on July 18, 2013, 08:36:59 PM
I am not a great CW operator but I do try to keep from getting 'rusty'
After trying a number of CW decoder programs.
I believe the best CW decoder is the one between your ears.
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Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: KA0HVE on July 19, 2013, 11:13:41 AM
I believe the best CW decoder is the one between your ears.

But I'm probably a bit biased when it comes to decoding my sending.  I want a second opinion.   ;D


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: AG1LE on July 22, 2013, 01:22:28 PM

Some pointers for software you may find useful for this:
- EHOmorse by F8EHO: http://www.f8eho.net/content/about-ehocw
- CWget and CWtype by UA9OV: CWget is a decoder, CWtype also allows connecting a paddle to the parallel port of the PC and the program acts as an electronic keyer
- KV by DF4KV. Similar to CWtype, but for DOS, good if you have an old DOS laptop that's looking for a useful task: http://www.qsl.net/df4kv/computer.html#kv
- http://lcwo.net/transmit (with the Mouse key - more of a toy than a tool though)


Adding to Fabian's pointers please try also FLDIGI. It is free open source software that works on Windows PC, Mac OSX and Linux platforms.  Not only does it have the CW decoder you are looking for  but also many other digital modes.
Go to Dave W1HKJ's page   http://w1hkj.com/ (http://w1hkj.com/)  and select "Download page".

73
Mauri AG1LE


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: K0JEG on July 23, 2013, 08:50:17 AM

Some pointers for software you may find useful for this:
- EHOmorse by F8EHO: http://www.f8eho.net/content/about-ehocw
- CWget and CWtype by UA9OV: CWget is a decoder, CWtype also allows connecting a paddle to the parallel port of the PC and the program acts as an electronic keyer
- KV by DF4KV. Similar to CWtype, but for DOS, good if you have an old DOS laptop that's looking for a useful task: http://www.qsl.net/df4kv/computer.html#kv
- http://lcwo.net/transmit (with the Mouse key - more of a toy than a tool though)


Adding to Fabian's pointers please try also FLDIGI. It is free open source software that works on Windows PC, Mac OSX and Linux platforms.  Not only does it have the CW decoder you are looking for  but also many other digital modes.
Go to Dave W1HKJ's page   http://w1hkj.com/ (http://w1hkj.com/)  and select "Download page".

73
Mauri AG1LE

+1 for FLDIGI for in the shack. If you have an Android phone or tablet Morse Decoder is very good, just hold your phone near the speaker and it reads just about anything. Not free, but the guy(s) who run the company are very responsive to questions and help.


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: VA7CPC on July 27, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
+1 for CWGet.  It's my "constant contest companion".

One nice thing about CW during contests:

. . . It's almost all computer-generated (or paddle-generated).  The timing is perfect.

For speeds of 40 wpm and over, I'll widen the filter for CWGet. 

.      Chares


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: KA0HVE on August 09, 2013, 12:00:37 PM
I'm not sure why it took me so long to get around to it but last night I finally installed CWGet on my netbook.  I plugged in a microphone and put it next to the speaker on my old keyer to use it as a CPO.  By golly it worked just like people here said it would.  And it was so simple to set up.

I definitely have a few spacing issues to work on but at least I can get some feedback to show me if I'm keying correctly or not.

Now I can get the accuracy problems fixed and the speed issue should eventually take care of itself.

Thanks all!


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: VK2ICJ on August 10, 2013, 07:28:48 PM
Hi Dan

  I know this will sound a bit funny,, but why not just get on the air and have some QSO's?  I have times away from the code myself and when I return it always seems to help to get on and do some QSO's

73 de vk2icj bt

Chris

I don't have any Morse Code software on my laptop so I can't try this myself yet.

In order to improve my sending skill can I put the laptop microphone near the code practice oscillator speaker so the software can read what I'm sending?  If that will work it will let me practice with some feedback from the software.

Thanks,
Dan - KA0HVE


Title: RE: Morse reader software question.
Post by: KA0HVE on August 12, 2013, 06:30:27 AM
Hi Dan

  I know this will sound a bit funny,, but why not just get on the air and have some QSO's?  I have times away from the code myself and when I return it always seems to help to get on and do some QSO's

73 de vk2icj bt

Chris


I'm doing quite a bit of that already Chris.  I need to build up my accuracy and speed to communicate with the faster amateurs.  There aren't too many folks out there who want to chat with someone at around 10 wpm or sometimes slower.  Plus, I want to keep using my straight key.

Yeah, I know, a paddle and keyer help but for a couple of reasons I want to get good with a straight key.  It's a hobby and it's fun so I'm trying it my way.  ;D

Thanks,
Dan