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Title: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KE7TMA on September 27, 2013, 04:35:50 PM
I have a buddy who wants to get his amateur radio license.  He doesn't have any radio gear at the moment except your typical AM/FM home stereos.  When he asked me about buying a radio, he said "How many radios do hams usually have?"  I hadn't really thought about it before.  I figure, most active hams are going to have at least one amateur transceiver (obviously) but that seems too easy.  Most hams I know have at least an HT and a base station type rig or a mobile, some are into QRP or were SWLs before or like military radios and so and pretty soon I arrived at a guess: and average of 6 radios capable of amateur band operation per active radio amateur.

I have 6, but I didn't choose this number arbitrarily.  What do you think, and more importantly, what is your radio count?  I guess I could include nice receivers used for amateur operation as well.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: AJ3O on September 27, 2013, 06:59:05 PM
Get to the point that you are on the verge of being broke and want more..... That is too many. Hi hi

Started with a mobile, FT857D and dual band MFJ mag mount antenna. Well, I then wanted HF in the mobile, so I bought a Lil Tarheel II screwdriver antenna and mount. The mag mount wasn't as good I had liked, so I purchased a Larsen dual band NMO mount antenna. Things were good. It got cold out and the XYL didn't appreciate the diesel running just to keep ME warm. I now needed a shack. I found a beautiful IC-746Pro, then needed a tuner and bought a MFJ Versa tuner, but the old desk, if you call it that, was running out of space, quickly.  Bring in the XYL. The shack looked like a college dorm corner study and needed a redo. New couch, new desk with matching file cabinet, curtains, paint, trim, and two weekends with some hefty credit charges later...... Deep breath and hey, I found a dedicated dual band for the shack. Work HF and monitor local nets at the same time. Cool. Oops, the used power supply picked up at a hamfest crapped the bed, time for a new one. This summer came across a nice IC7000. Needed? No, but everyone needs a bugout radio right? RIGHT? Oh no, moved too fast, came across a beautiful FT2000 200 watt. Sold the 7000 and put the 746 in the closet just in case. What? Look at that K3.

But I digress........ You NEVER have too many pieces of equipment.

Just saying.......

Joe / AJ3O


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: K5TED on September 27, 2013, 07:53:14 PM
In my case, it's having a radio for every occasion.

1 full coverage +V/U all mode QRP rig
1 full HF coverage 20w SSB/CW radio
1 full coverage +V/U 100w all mode mobile rig
1 full coverage +V/U 100w base rig
1 HF+6 100w SDR
1 HF coverage 100w base rig

A few talkies.
Several wideband all mode receivers.

I'm good for now.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: K0JEG on September 29, 2013, 09:55:46 AM
It fluctuates, if you buy and sell. I've had as many as 6 HTs but have now pared that down to 1. I've had 4 mobiles but now down to 2 (one in the truck and one in the car).

I have 3 HF radios, but I might get rid of one soon just because I haven't used it since I upgraded my main station at home. Just have to decide which one.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W7TNS on September 29, 2013, 11:18:45 AM
HAve 3 HF rigs in main station shack, one HF rig in second station, one HF mobile, one dual band mobile uhf/vhf, and one dual band HT, plus one HF rcvr, and a portable HF/air/am/fm rcvr...prolly 2 many...but whoever has most toys when you die, wins, right!!??


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W2WDX on September 29, 2013, 01:43:40 PM
I think there are a lot of factors on this.

What class license you have?
How much space do you have?
Are you married? (seriously)
Do you like collecting?
What modes do you like to operate?
Are you an accessories nut?
How many bands do you plan on using regularly?
Etc.

Nowadays, it is very possible to have one radio that do all of these things or close to it. FlexRadio comes to mind. And with a laptop and remote control you can even go mobile with your Flex (sort of).

However, I think most hams have multiple radios because mostly they want to mix it up and not be bored.

I do not even want to say say how many radios I have. It's a lot. However I am a collector and restoration junkie. So I have radios I have yet to actually operate, even though they are fully functional and pristine.

I choose what radio I operate based on the operational requirement at the time. If I am DX'ing I'll either use the FlexRadio or my Yaesu FT-9000 (a new toy). If I am operating HF AM I may use Flex or the old Collins KWS-1 or my Hallicrafters HT-37. For 2m if I'm doing the repeater thing I tend to use my FT-736 or Echolink. However, 2m SSB & simplex I use my old FT-221R. Again for AM on 2m I use a Clegg Zeus. So for me I like having choices and use the radio I feel works best or is the most fun to operate for a given operational need. So I have numerous radios.

I would bet most Hams have four radios. One in the house for HF, another for VHF/UHF and another two for mobile communications. Maybe add a handy-talkie to make five.

Having too many is a factor of money and wife, and not always in that order. Yup ... I'm not married :)

John, W2WDX


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: K9IUQ on September 29, 2013, 06:01:14 PM
I think there are a lot of factors on this.

Are you married? (seriously)

Being Married or Not can be the biggest factor in buying radios. As a long term husband and Ham op I have learned never to tell the wife how much a radio costs.  If you do tell the truth it may limit how many radios you have....

Stan K9IUQ


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KD8MJR on September 29, 2013, 06:09:37 PM
Depends on what kind of person you are. If your a collector or just love having lots of gear then the sky or the wife is the limit :)

If your going to be a DXer then your best option is to get one very good expensive rig and a regular 2m rig.  Better to have one $4000 HF rig that has loads of tools to help with QRN and QRM then to have 5x $800 rigs that are all pretty much the same in performance.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N0IU on September 30, 2013, 03:16:06 AM
What do you think, and more importantly, what is your radio count?

I think that no one should judge how many radios they should have based on what other people have.

Why is it so important that you know how many radios I have? It is nobody's business what my "radio count" is.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W1JKA on September 30, 2013, 08:08:54 AM
One more than the ones you use.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N3AEG on September 30, 2013, 09:20:59 AM
How many is too many?  That's a very easy question to answer: "Just one more".


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W1VT on September 30, 2013, 11:39:03 AM
When I first got on 10GHz I built a bunch of spare rigs to lend to my friends!



Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KD0REQ on September 30, 2013, 07:53:43 PM
that's like the question asked of VP Dick Cheney, about how many shotguns is enough.

there are only flip answers.

I will save the rest of the server space and not give them ;)


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KE7TMA on September 30, 2013, 10:09:00 PM
What do you think, and more importantly, what is your radio count?

I think that no one should judge how many radios they should have based on what other people have.

Why is it so important that you know how many radios I have? It is nobody's business what my "radio count" is.

It's not my "business" but I want to know what an average count is.  If you don't feel comfortable posting your number then don't, but I don't see how your response is helpful to my buddy or the community at large.  If I asked you in a personal message, I could see a justification in your chagrin but as you volunteered to come here and moan about the question I don't see the point!  Good luck!


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KE7TMA on September 30, 2013, 10:09:29 PM
When I first got on 10GHz I built a bunch of spare rigs to lend to my friends!



How far do you generally get on 10 GHz?


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WB2EOD on October 01, 2013, 02:01:38 PM
The woman who dies with the most shoes is the winner. 
The ham who dies with the most radios is the winner.

73
WB2EOD


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: K1CJS on October 06, 2013, 10:28:12 AM
You know when you've reached that point when you buy a radio--and can't find a place to put it!  73!


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: AD9DX on October 06, 2013, 01:49:45 PM
I only have one.  I'd suspect I am in the minority though.  I have had as many as two.  Once when I bought my new HF rig before I sold my old one and I owned an HT for a little while.  I'd like to get a "mobile" 2m/440 rig for the shack, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger. 


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WA4CD on October 06, 2013, 07:40:52 PM
The correct number of radios for a ham to own can accurately be determined by using the formula;

  ( N + 1 )  < ( D)

Where:
    N = current number of radios owned
    D = Divorce by spouse


;D


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: AC4RD on October 07, 2013, 08:26:41 AM
The correct number of radios for a ham to own can accurately be determined by using the formula;

  ( N + 1 )  < ( D)

Where:
    N = current number of radios owned
    D = Divorce by spouse

I sure am glad I wasn't taking a sip of coffee when I read this post.  I would have spewed it all over my monitor and keyboard, laughing.  :)

You could sell T-shirts with that printed on them!  ;)


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WN2C on October 07, 2013, 08:53:54 AM
I think you have too many radios when you dont have enough antennas for each one. (so that each radio can sit on any one band.)
One radio w/o an antenna connected is one radio too many.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N3HFS on October 07, 2013, 05:50:35 PM
How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?

Two.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N9LCD on October 09, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
One radio can be "TOO MANY" if:

1.  Buying it impairs your ability to properly discharge your financial obligations.

2.  Living the "ham radio" lifestyle impairs your ability to properly discharge your familial responsibilities.


N9LCD


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N4OI on October 09, 2013, 07:31:49 PM
I think you have too many radios when you dont have enough antennas for each one. (so that each radio can sit on any one band.)
One radio w/o an antenna connected is one radio too many.

No... you don't need more antennas! When you run out of open radio positions on the coax switch, it just means you need to buy a bigger switch. Bingo!  Time to start shopping for more radios!

73


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W2WDX on October 10, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
You realize you have too many radios when ...

... You start thinking about your mortgage. Not the one on your current house, but instead the one for the next house you are planning to buy.  ;D


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WA7URV on October 10, 2013, 08:08:13 PM
The question confuses me.  I always thought that the one with the most radios was the winner...   - Phil, WA7URV


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KG4NEL on October 11, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
My strategy is to make sure I don't have have duplicates of anything beyond what's reasonable for an emergency. Ham radio is not critical enough for me to require multiple radios that do the same thing at the same time. Having seen what hoarding does, I can't stand clutter.

That being said, I found I can't really listen to more than two radios at once - a VHF/UHF FM rig scanning local repeaters and an HF rig are usually all I have going.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W4KYR on October 12, 2013, 01:14:42 AM
You know you have too many radios when you finally clean your shack and find radios you forgot that you bought.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W1JKA on October 12, 2013, 12:14:58 PM
  Anybody know which answer is correct yet ?


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: K1CJS on October 13, 2013, 09:05:05 AM
Just about ALL of them!


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W4KVW on October 15, 2013, 09:05:12 AM
There is NO SUCH THING as too many radios! That is a silly question.Are you sure you are really a ham operator or a ham operators spouse who has hacked their account?  ;)   :)   :D   ;D  }:>)  {:>)  ???

Clayton
W4KVW


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: K1CJS on October 18, 2013, 05:34:57 AM
Come now Clayton, there certainly can be 'too many' radios.  How about when the ham has to buy the house next door to house their collection!


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: F8WBD on October 18, 2013, 07:27:48 AM
More than one is too many. But keep enough ready cash around in the event that the one you have smokes. Then use the money to buy a new one. It will be the latest belled and whistled model (if that means a lot to you). What is the point of having ten, ten-year-old rigs crushing your operating desk?

The above does not apply to cheap QRP rigs, hi.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KK4QOB on December 12, 2013, 11:52:28 AM
New here at eHam, and new to ham radio in general.
I started "acquiring" equipment 2 years before I took the test and got licensed.
Gear was mostly used, and found at bargain prices.
I seem to have always had a knack for finding deals on most anything, and station equipment
hasn't been an exception. What you see is what I "kept" out of bulk buys. Selling what I didn't want or need has kept my actual $ investment very very low.

Somebody mentioned an average of "6" radios?....LOL!

Here's my list...

4 each Yaesu VX-170 ht's (dude had a case of these selling them for $50 each)
1 each Yaesu FT-250r ht
Kenwood TM-G707a dualband mobile
Icom IC-2200h 2m mobile
Icom V8000 2m mobile
Yaesu 817nd
Icom 706mkIIg
Icom IC-275 2m base
Icom IC-475 440 base
Icom IC-737 hf base (added just this week)
Icom IC-718

Other station items...

3 each Icom SM-8 desk mics
Astron RM50m power supply
Astron RS35m power supply
Yaesu 1023 power supply
Vectronics 300DLP tuner/dummy load
Multi-RX audio control box (6 radios to 2 speakers)
817z tuner
IT-100 tuner
Rode PSA1 mic boom w/....
Audio Technica 2020 USB mic for Echolink

DC power from the 50 amp PS runs to a RigRunner 8012 distribution panel, and from the 35 amp PS to a RigRunner 4004-USB panel.

I'm almost finished with the shack room remodel.
Picked up a nice used counter top for $50 and built my own shelf units and painted them to match. Also built a roll out cart to house my computer tower and the massive/heavy RM50m power supply.
My coax and ground wires run in via the 2 sections of grey PVC conduit in the corner, kinda keeps things neat and tidy.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss17/snarted/newshack_zpscc2726f8.jpg) (http://s557.photobucket.com/user/snarted/media/newshack_zpscc2726f8.jpg.html)


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W4HTH on December 13, 2013, 06:25:50 AM
Think of stamp collections, coin collections, money in the bank. you never have enough same with radios!


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W4SEX on February 14, 2017, 08:37:43 AM
Hard not to think when you see a shack with 8 of the same model radios, and then think of a ham that cannot afford even 1 HF rig, then something is wrong with society. :(


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WG8Z on February 14, 2017, 12:30:53 PM
When it takes an Excel workbook to keep track of them.

73 de Zed


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N4UE on February 14, 2017, 01:21:14 PM
Hard not to think when you see a shack with 8 of the same model radios, and then think of a ham that cannot afford even 1 HF rig, then something is wrong with society. :(

Hmmmm, distribution of wealth? EBT radios? "You can keep your:  WHATEVER"?
It's called self improvement.......
Let's not get the W6 'snowflakes' panties all wadded up.

ron
N4UE


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: ND6M on February 14, 2017, 03:03:25 PM
There is NO SUCH THING as too many radios! ....Clayton
W4KVW

I don't think that is correct,.............. YMMV

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-5bPO2JDSAhUp4IMKHU72Ao4QjxwIAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w4ava.org%2Fnl%2F2012%2F08%2F19%2Fa-visit-to-the-real-life-candy-store%2Fw9evt-1%2F&psig=AFQjCNHaZ77v5lqx0sehhphPajCAHSyu_Q&ust=1487199639647472


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: ONAIR on February 14, 2017, 04:08:26 PM
There is NO SUCH THING as too many radios! ....Clayton
W4KVW

I don't think that is correct,.............. YMMV

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-5bPO2JDSAhUp4IMKHU72Ao4QjxwIAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w4ava.org%2Fnl%2F2012%2F08%2F19%2Fa-visit-to-the-real-life-candy-store%2Fw9evt-1%2F&psig=AFQjCNHaZ77v5lqx0sehhphPajCAHSyu_Q&ust=1487199639647472
    The question is however, which one does he like best???  ::)


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: ZS5WC on February 15, 2017, 08:58:12 PM
 :DYou have TOO many rigs when step over Ham goodies in the shack with the latest and greatest rig to add to the collection, and then you realise , you have nowhere to place it!.. ;)
Or when the XYL comes into the shack, and whilst watching her face you notice it finally dawns on her that she does not quite remember THAT radio with the screen!..
"Where did THAT come from?"--ooh boy, this is going to be good.. :D

Might be a good time to reduce the clutter..

73 de William
ZS4L / ZS5Wc
 


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: GM1FLQ on February 19, 2017, 11:47:47 PM
One radio is one too many for some.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N3HKN on February 20, 2017, 02:39:32 AM
When you are wealthy and want to win contests at all costs.

Multiple fully equipped operating positions, A farm of large antennas on very high towers and a special building to house the equipment. Being at the top of a contest, with like minded  ($$$) people, offers a sense of pride by getting your call sign at the top of a printed page in QST. Perhaps too much equipment is when a small number of these monied stations occupy the top of major contests. After all, it is these contests that form the new foundation for Amateur Radio.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KG4RUL on February 20, 2017, 10:00:51 AM
When your local storage facility has no more units to rent to you!


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KB2WIG on February 20, 2017, 10:10:15 AM


One needs at least 6 radios of approximately the same Mode/Frequency coverage. The barest minimum is 3, 'caus if one breaks, your only one radio from having no radio. And if you have 2 and they both work how do you really know that one isn't broken? Or that it's waiting for your weekend to go on strike?

So too many would probably be around 10.

KLC


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: ONAIR on February 20, 2017, 10:46:05 AM
Radios are just like money!  You can't have too much!!    ::)


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WA2ISE on February 20, 2017, 02:26:56 PM
When you have them all over the floor of the shack, and you keep tripping over them...  ;D


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WA2ASB on February 23, 2017, 04:56:20 PM
The formula for too many, which equally applies to things like: cars, fishing poles, guns, tools, etc is:

Too Many = 1/0

 ;D


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KA1VF on February 23, 2017, 05:36:36 PM
   I've got a few (7) HT's, and a few (3) HF rigs. My main fetish is golf clubs,
   and I have a few (7) sets.  My other fetish is fishing rods, and I have a
   a few (12) poles.
   note: Last year there was a nationwide academic study published that said
           48 % of the approximately 35 million guns in America are owned by
           just 3 % of the adult population.
   note: I'd like to see a similar nationwide academic study published that says
           what percentage of all functioning Ham Radio gear is owned by what
           percentage of licensed Hams.

                           73,
                                Bob
 
 


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KA1VF on February 23, 2017, 06:57:18 PM
   I've got a few (7) HT's, and a few (3) HF rigs. My main fetish is golf clubs,
   and I have a few (7) sets.  My other fetish is fishing rods, and I have a
   a few (12) poles.
   note: Last year there was a nationwide academic study published that said
           48 % of the approximately 350 million guns in America are owned by
           just 3 % of the adult population.
   note: I'd like to see a similar nationwide academic study published that says
           what percentage of all functioning Ham Radio gear is owned by what
           percentage of licensed Hams.

                           73,
                                Bob
 
 
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Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KA5ROW on March 01, 2017, 04:27:01 PM
I have 3 HF rigs Kenwood TS-590, Kenwood TS-530SP, and a Icon Pro III,  When I buy the new Icom 7610 I will sell the Icom Pro III to help pay for it. but may also get a good Kenwood 790 for UHF VHF all mode, so about 4 to 5 would be the limit. OF course nothing wrong buying a rig at a hamfest playing with it for a year sell it and try something else for a year, and do this every year.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N4UE on March 01, 2017, 04:46:33 PM
KA5ROW, thanks for the reply. I had never heard of the TS-790. Must be kind of rare, but they sure have good reviews here.

I have a 'thing' for old tube type ham equipment. Working on an old Yaesu FRDX-400SD right now.
I've been told they are pretty lousy radios, but my passion is finding a ugly, old radio and refurbishing it. I 'might' use it a few times and then it's off to the next. Being retired and the fact that nobody wants this equipment is a 'win-win' for me. My problem is I'm running out of room. ha ha
I have a lot of the new (insert yawn here) stuff, but the old stuff is what 'floats my boat'.

enjoy

ron
N4UE



Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: GM1FLQ on March 03, 2017, 06:31:06 AM
When you have them all over the floor of the shack, and you keep tripping over them...  ;D

Judging by the state of much s/h gear you see for sale, the floor must be a common place to store gear........and the owners must wear size 12 steel toe cap, hobnail boots......... :o


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KE0ZU on March 05, 2017, 05:12:50 AM
I feel I'm getting fairly close to saturation.
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/mikeinkcmo/Radios/Radio%20Bench/1649_zpskxfnxrsu.jpg)

(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/mikeinkcmo/Radios/Basement/Basemnt%20P_zpsts1fj62i.jpg)

(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/mikeinkcmo/Radios/Shed%20Radio%20Cab/RadioCab3_zpscboclxay.jpg)



Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KB2WIG on March 05, 2017, 09:30:47 AM



Lazy, lazy radios. Not werkin fer a livin.

KLC


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KE0ZU on March 05, 2017, 04:06:14 PM
Most all get a couple weeks a year, but they do have it pretty good.
Mike


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N0YXB on March 06, 2017, 04:49:20 PM
I feel I'm getting fairly close to saturation.

(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/mikeinkcmo/Radios/Shed%20Radio%20Cab/RadioCab3_zpscboclxay.jpg)

No way, I see some empty spots on those shelves! Nice shack by the way.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WD4ELG on March 06, 2017, 07:27:27 PM
KE0ZU....your pictures have me drooling.  Nice FT-101E?  And the Drake, is that a TR-4C?


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KE0ZU on March 06, 2017, 09:19:36 PM
Vince,

The storage cab pic is fairly old and I've added a few more since then.   I think there's only 5 slots left.

Mark,

The Drakes are R4B and T4XB.   I've recently gotten this desire to have "twins" and here are 3 different examples, and I recently picked up another pair of Gonset twins with AC supplies as well.
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/mikeinkcmo/Radios/Drake/Twins%201_zpsy1jpfqfx.jpg)

(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv62/mikeinkcmo/Radios/Gonset%20Twins/Second%20Set%202016/PB190004_zpsn9v3iz8e.jpg)

Mike



Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N8AUC on March 07, 2017, 10:13:36 AM
How many is too many?
If you're asking that question, you're not there yet.

73 de N8AUC
Eric


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WD4ELG on March 07, 2017, 10:31:14 AM
Nie Gonset.  And I LOVE the Kenwood twins.  If you ever get bored and don't want those or the Drake twins, call me.   ;D


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W3TTT on March 07, 2017, 10:37:26 AM
 :)
I sold a whole wall of boat anchors, and bought an Icom 718 (entry level rig) in 2011.  I'm very happy with the transaction.
 ;)
The rig is 7 years old now, so that is  $100 per year.  Who says that ham radio is expensive? Not me!
 8)
W3TTT


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KE0ZU on March 07, 2017, 04:53:43 PM
Eric, I think you're on to something. ;D


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N6YFM on March 14, 2017, 12:53:34 PM
Silly question.  It is totally dependent on a specific person and their desires or issues.

How many radios is too many?

+ for a tin foil hat paranoid who lives in fear off the grid, 1 is too many.

+ for a very poor ham, struggling to pay rent, 2 is too many.

+ for a collector/museum with fixed square footage running short, maybe 101 radios is 1 too many?

Is there a point to the question?
To me, it sounded about as sensible as asking; What part of the planet has too much sky?


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W4SEX on March 14, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
Hard not to think when you see a shack with 8 of the same model radios, and then think of a ham that cannot afford even 1 HF rig, then something is wrong with society. :(

Hmmmm, distribution of wealth? EBT radios? "You can keep your:  WHATEVER"?
It's called self improvement.......
Let's not get the W6 'snowflakes' panties all wadded up.

ron
N4UE

Explain self improvement for a physically disabled ham on a fixed income, deep in debt from medical expenses. That person will never afford a HF rig. When the person with multiple rigs dies, will his radios go to someone who cannot afford them?  NO


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N4UE on March 14, 2017, 03:38:32 PM
I've been retired for 16 years. After the military, I put myself through college. I am healthy, work 7 days/week, 365 days/year, just 4 hrs/day. My dad was sickly (hypochondriac), his whole life and the only thing I inherited, was the bill for his funeral.
I don't understand the 'medical bill' issue. I know LOTS of folks with NO money and that never stops them from getting quality medical care, as good as mine, or better. I'm a retired EE (IBM) with excellent medical benefits. These folk get everything I paid into, and then some. I feel for them, but if they chose to live at that level, it's their choice.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
I have a huge radio/test equipment collection. When I pass, my son will probably just hire someone to haul it all to the land fill. He'll also get my house, classic cars, motorcycles, and firearms.

ron
N4UE


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W4SEX on March 18, 2017, 05:54:24 AM
I have a huge radio/test equipment collection. When I pass, my son will probably just hire someone to haul it all to the land fill. He'll also get my house, classic cars, motorcycles, and firearms.
ron
N4UE
You just answered my question above. Congratulations on amassing such great wealth for yourself.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WB4M on March 27, 2017, 01:53:49 PM
Nie Gonset.  And I LOVE the Kenwood twins.  If you ever get bored and don't want those or the Drake twins, call me.   ;D
Me too.. had 3 sets of those Kenwood Twins.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W7ASA on April 02, 2017, 08:39:59 PM


Radios are like wives; have as many or as few as you prefer.  I prefer few, but that's just me.


 



Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: ONAIR on April 03, 2017, 01:51:36 AM
:)
I sold a whole wall of boat anchors, and bought an Icom 718 (entry level rig) in 2011.  I'm very happy with the transaction.
 ;)
The rig is 7 years old now, so that is  $100 per year.  Who says that ham radio is expensive? Not me!
 8)
W3TTT
    And if and when you sell that 718, you should get a nice percentage of your purchase price back!!  ::)


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N8AUC on April 03, 2017, 08:23:33 AM

Radios are like wives; have as many or as few as you prefer.  I prefer few, but that's just me.


Ummm, I don't think so.

From what I can tell, radios are nothing like wives.
1 - They're far less expensive (even a high end rig),
2 - They do what you tell them to do (most of the time),
3 - Having more than one radio isn't illegal in most states,
4 - A radio won't get jealous if it finds out you were tweaking the knobs on another radio,
5 - You can disassemble and fix a radio. Doing that to your wife is likely to get you into expensive legal trouble,
6 - A radio won't help you search for tubes for another radio at a hamfest,
7 - Replacing an old broken down radio with a newer, thinner, lighter model doesn't require an attorney, alimony, or court costs,
8 - The value of a room full of the very best, top of the line radios doesn't even begin to approach the value of a good wife.

Truthfully, my wife is more awesome than any radio I have, or have ever had.
She has to be to put up with me for all these years, and still stick around.
And I wouldn't trade her for all the radios at Hamvention.

73 de N8AUC
Eric



Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KG4NEL on April 03, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
Two works for me. Maybe three, if I ever decide to try out 220MHz.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: N8FVJ on April 04, 2017, 09:54:42 AM
Any more than 10 radios may be too many. I know hams that have well over 300 radios.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KC4ZGP on April 20, 2017, 06:10:00 AM

Here is the answer.

Where does God live?

Why don't women make up their mind?

73

Kraus


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KD8UEI on April 20, 2017, 08:11:56 AM
Paraphrasing the old saying, you can't be too rich, too thin, or have too many radios.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: AA4HA on April 25, 2017, 02:13:56 PM
I have around 40 radios, that is 35 too many.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KC4ZGP on May 15, 2017, 09:19:22 AM

Eric/N8AUC,

And having more dollars than wives is good too. Not one dollar will ever talk back nor nag me.

73 and wear that seat belt.

Kraus


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: AC7CW on May 15, 2017, 01:32:12 PM
I had a 10' x 20' shack pretty much filled up with radios in various stages of working [or not] and test equipment. It all got stolen... that was years ago and I still miss it all so I can't rationally answer the OP's question... nope, being rational and radios is two whole other things...


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KG7FIU on August 12, 2017, 10:16:12 PM
Posted a little story related to this theme a couple years ago.  Some hams didn't like it too much.

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,105709.0.html (http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,105709.0.html)



Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: WD4ELG on August 13, 2017, 02:32:06 PM
KG7FIU, interesting and enlightening post.

OK, I decided to downsize.  Sold the TS570D, sold the IC910H.  That leaves 2 x FT817ND, a TS520S, TS480SAT, Flex 5000  fully loaded with 2nd RX and ATU and V/U module, an MTR3B and a couple of simple transceiver kits that are either complete or midway through construction.  Plus a VX6R and an HTX10 and 2 x HTX-252 2 meter rigs for APRS, also collecting dust.  Still too much.

I am giving serious thought to selling the TS480SAT.  I kept it as a backup if the Flex has to go to the shop for repairs, and the 480 simply excels for remote and mobile operation, but it is collecting dust.  The FT817ND are just too versatile to part with, plus I won't get much for them if I sell them.  And they work fine for mobile operationalso (I don't normally get into pileups when driving, so QRP on HF is just fine for me).

I have debated selling the TS520S, as it gets little use, but I still have it for sentimental reasons.

Probably will sell both, make some room in the shack...not for more gear but for space to move around and reduce clutter.

OK, still too


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: AH7I on August 23, 2017, 09:28:52 AM
You are getting close to too many when you start lying to others about how many you have.
When you start lying to yourself, you're a full fledged addict.
I see it every day at work. Most commonly alcohol, heroin, crack, or cats are involved.

In finale stages, one's  too far gone to know how many.

73, -Bob ah7i/w4


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KC4ZGP on August 23, 2017, 09:43:43 AM

One can never have too many cats.

Henry loves to sit on the desk right in my face when I try to pass vital, important, critical ham radio traffic.

I am strict however. I won't let him operate. He hasn't a license.

On 18.087MHz, Morse, 2200UTC. Won't you join me?

Kraus



Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: ONAIR on August 23, 2017, 10:40:19 AM
No more than 200, tops!!!  ::)


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KD8IIC on August 24, 2017, 01:53:28 AM
  Since the original post was about Radios and NOT drugs or alcoholism I will say that at present I own 50 or so   
  in working and non-working condition. The non-working rigs being the lesser amount likely 10%.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W2WDX on October 06, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
A few years ago (2013), I had about 30 or so various radios, all working, all vintage. Plus another dozen modern radios like FlexRadio and new Alpha amps. And that does not include the radios I had at my workplace, which was a restoration shop. However, now I have less than a dozen. Why? I moved. I went from a house in the suburbs where I lived alone, to a co-op apartment in NYC with a roommate. My room is also my shack. Yikes!

So now what I do I pick and chose carefully, and I turn-over radios a lot. I try something I hadn't had before, restore it, sell it and move on. This way I get to do my restorations, use a "new" or different radio, and then start over. I also allow others to get nice examples of well tested nicely restored radios. The only problem is sometimes I sell thing I regret, like my very mint Clegg Zeus/InterceptorB or my B&W 5100B. However, I did get huge offers for them so they had to go.

Now it's my Gates M-5078 Transmitter which is getting offers. I had someone offered me a mint T-368 Transmitter in exchange. I thought they were joking, but they were serious. I didn't take the offer, and besides that thing is a beast. However, the Gates is so rare (it may be the only example still in existence) I do not think this will be a transmitter I will part with.

So you can have hundreds of radios, just not at the same time. I kinda like this method, and the clutter is very manageable.

Yeah ... I had a station at work. Here's a link to a pic of the vintage gear there, the modern radios were on another bench across the room ... (and the vintage station got bigger after this).

http://www.qsl.net/w2wdx/images/station042011bsm.jpg (http://www.qsl.net/w2wdx/images/station042011bsm.jpg)

John, W2WDX


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KG4NEL on October 18, 2017, 07:05:46 AM
Two are enough for me.

Maybe three, if I ever get around to playing on 220MHz.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: SWMAN on October 19, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
 I have just one radio, a Kenwood TS 570. It does everything that I need very well for me.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KD8IIC on October 24, 2017, 05:32:39 AM
lost count, 45 here I think.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: W3TTT on October 24, 2017, 07:51:58 AM
Just an observation:  a lot of folks have reported on this thread that they own 10, 20, 25, 35, 45, or more radios and rigs.  If everyone would go to sell their collections at the same time, the bottom would fall of the market, that is, cheap rigs.  Imagine this - if even 1000 hams would offer 35 rigs each for sale = 35,000 rigs.  Would you call that Ham Heaven?  ;) 


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KC2QYM on October 24, 2017, 08:15:06 AM
LOL, this whole thread is a collection of useless dribble started back in 2013 by a person who poses a thoughtless question. So since this thread is historic I will add my own opinion and take the arrows for it.   One can comment on quality not quantity, etc. etc.  The accumulation of many things in a hobby can go two ways: A desire to have many examples of radio equipment representing a variation of new features over a period of time.....Or......a hoarding fetish to miserly possess a lot of junk and gloat over it.  Overt possession of many things is akin to gluttony; a curse that many hams suffer from.


Title: RE: How many radios does it take for a person to have too many?
Post by: KD8IIC on October 26, 2017, 07:17:51 PM
  My collection of nearly 200 ham items and RX's TX's etc will not fetch any money anyway.
The new kids want nothing to do with anything old school so I sure don't worry about selling anything let alone dumping the junk mkt price, hi.