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Title: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 17, 2013, 10:14:54 AM
Hello everyone!

I've been thinking about creating a place for hams all around the world on the Internet and I started working on a social network-type project. I've created it. Feel free to register, try all features of it and share it among other hams. It's amazing place for all hams. HamWorld has over 100 users, you can be next!
I hope you'll like HamWorld :)

Address of HamWorld is http://hamworld.net/

Enjoy HamWorld!

73,
Karol SP8HMZ
admin of HamWorld


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: WI8P on December 17, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
I think you should apply for a new call sign.  Instead of SP8HMZ, how about SPAMZ


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: N5INP on December 18, 2013, 03:54:27 AM
Hello everyone!

I've been thinking about creating a place for hams all around the world on the Internet ...

You mean like this forum LOL?


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 18, 2013, 04:23:18 AM
It's not a spam.I want to inform hams about creating new page. Trust me, a lot of hams want to be part of HamWorld but they don't know about it.

N5INP - No. HamWorld is a social network, not a forum. I invite you to register and try this. You'll see that HamWorld is another website with another goal.

73,
Karol SP8HMZ
admin of HamWorld


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: W1JKA on December 18, 2013, 05:05:18 AM
Social network for Hams??. Might be a big hit if it has an on line dating section for all those YLs who have  registered.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: K7RBW on December 18, 2013, 06:44:12 AM
I don't mean to offend, but from looking at the site, I don't see any benefit to joining. The news feed is full of stuff that's not particularly interesting and so, it looks like it has a very low signal to noise ratio. The intro page is in a foreign (to me) language which makes me a little nervous, wondering if this is a real site or a phishing site.

But mostly, it's the dearth of content that turns me off. Contrast that with eHam.net, for example which has lots of content about lots of topics. I come here (more often than I should, perhaps), because there's there's the right mix of information and entertainment, with just a dash of occasional drama. There's an interesting mix of curious newbies, curmudgeonly old farts, people who seem to know what they are talking about and people who just seem to think they know what they are talking about. (I'm not sure where I'd place myself on that spectrum :) ). But it all boils down to content--lots of interesting content.

If you want your site to start taking off, it needs content--something to get the conversation rolling. It's like at a party where no one dances until someone is on the dance floor (and there's some danceable music). Your site needs someone or a small group to start the conversations and provide the content that attracts more content. You might need to reach out to some experts or at least a few interesting writers and make it worth their while to get the ball rolling, but as it is, just seeing a news feed of "so-and-so just signed up" isn't much of a draw.

Good luck! Launching a new site is a lot of work.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 18, 2013, 07:22:00 AM
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But mostly, it's the dearth of content that turns me off.
Yes, but I must have more users to make it more interesting. It's so simple.

On eham.net I see a lot of new topics, but look on count of registered users. I started to develop HamWorld 3 weeks ago and I have over 130 users now. eHam was created few years ago, so...

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If you want your site to start taking off, it needs content--something to get the conversation rolling. It's like at a party where no one dances until someone is on the dance floor (and there's some danceable music). Your site needs someone or a small group to start the conversations and provide the content that attracts more content. You might need to reach out to some experts or at least a few interesting writers and make it worth their while to get the ball rolling, but as it is, just seeing a news feed of "so-and-so just signed up" isn't much of a draw.

It's true, but when I will have more users, all posts will be comment probably. It's simple - small count of users = small count of content .
So, I hope that people will register on HamWorld to make it more interesting. It's our goal.

And thanks for tips, of course :)

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Social network for Hams??. Might be a big hit if it has an on line dating section for all those YLs who have  registered.
W1JKA - really? ;D It's not a problem for me. Find more users interesting in this, then I'll add this feature ;D

73,
Karol SP8HMZ
admin of HamWorld


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: K7RNO on December 18, 2013, 12:17:11 PM
Karol,

How many of the >1 billion facebook users are active and contribute real content? When you have that answer, you will have an idea of what you'll need to make your site buzz. It is so simple, but yet so hard...

For me to get excited, I would like to know from you where you see the difference between your site and eHam. Why would I benefit from going with you and dropping eHam? I don't have unlimited time, so I can't do both. (In this context, it might be considered unethical to advertise here for a competitive product, trying to lure away members).

Good luck with your baby,

Arno K7RNO

PS: FTR, I am not a member of any "social network" due to lack of time. I do peruse a few fora that specifically cater to my interests.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 18, 2013, 12:30:16 PM
Thanks Arno for your post.

So,
HamWorld isn't a forum. It has another goals, including making new ham-friends or find your known friends. You can write a personal blog and it looks and works better then topic on forum. You can add video and photos and quickly watch them, comment, rate, etc. You can add yourself to groups or create your own group. You have newsfeed like in Facebook - texts are quickly to read. Do you want to have more assets?

73,
Karol SP8HMZ
admin of HamWorld


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: K7RNO on December 18, 2013, 12:33:53 PM
Thanks Karol, that is enough information. It confirms that I want a forum, not a social network.

Cheers!  :)


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 18, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
OK, no problem. Now you know what is better for you ;)

73,
Karol SP8HMZ
admin of HamWorld


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: K7RNO on December 18, 2013, 02:08:55 PM
Well, I kind of knew that before  ;)


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 18, 2013, 02:16:07 PM
:)


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: WI8P on December 18, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
So, I hope that people will register on HamWorld to make it more interesting. It's our goal.


73,
Karol SP8HMZ
admin of HamWorld

No, your goal is to get more hits so you can get advertising money.  If it was that interesting, your 130+  members would be on sites like this telling us how great it is. Plus sites like your become targets of data miners - which you may already be for all I know - who turn that data over to spammers.

Like I said, you need a call sign change.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: K7MEM on December 18, 2013, 05:10:21 PM
No. HamWorld is a social network, not a forum. I invite you to register and try this.

Do you mean our social network isn't our radios? I already registered with the FCC for this social network.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 19, 2013, 09:33:49 AM
WI8P - you are wrong. There is no advertisment - HamWorld is 'clean'. I don't get any money from HamWorld. My goal is connecting hams in Internet and giving a chance to write, comment, like, etc. I hope that you understand this.
If you don't want to have an account on HamWorld - no problem but don't tell me that I should change my callsign.

K7MEM - Yes, our hobby is a big social network, but Internet helps in amateur radio. HamWorld is supplement to ham radio.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: N2MG on December 19, 2013, 09:41:41 AM
On eham.net I see a lot of new topics, but look on count of registered users. I started to develop HamWorld 3 weeks ago and I have over 130 users now. eHam was created few years ago, so...

So... how many "registered users" do you think eHam has?




Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 19, 2013, 09:47:24 AM
I have no idea ;) Maybe around 10,000 users or more?


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: WI8P on December 19, 2013, 11:47:57 AM
WI8P - you are wrong. There is no advertisment - HamWorld is 'clean'. I don't get any money from HamWorld. My goal is connecting hams in Internet and giving a chance to write, comment, like, etc. I hope that you understand this.
If you don't want to have an account on HamWorld - no problem but don't tell me that I should change my callsign.

K7MEM - Yes, our hobby is a big social network, but Internet helps in amateur radio. HamWorld is supplement to ham radio.

Clean for now. Maybe because no one wants to advertise on a site with only 140 members.  Notice you also skipped the data mining issue. I don't see anything there that is lacking here.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: K7RBW on December 19, 2013, 12:24:34 PM
IMO, what's missing is a reason to visit, let alone join. Just to see the names of other people who happen to be hams isn't enough--and there are already many other places to do that. There needs to be a compelling attraction. Some things might be: tips and tricks (e.g. K0BG.com), Ham-related resources (Eham.net, QRZ.com), News feed of ham topics (google news), etc. But, even without studying the issue I can see it's a crowded field from which to stand out.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 19, 2013, 01:40:32 PM
W8IP - I don't plan adding advertisment on HamWorld. That's all.
You said about data minning issue. I use watchdogs and antivirus plugins, so HamWorld is safe.

K7RBW, you are right. I will write more interesting informations, questions, etc. on HamWorld. I hope that users will be active too.

73,
Karol SP8HMZ
admin of HamWorld


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: KF6QEX on December 19, 2013, 04:28:44 PM
How about deleting / locking this thread already?


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 20, 2013, 04:40:02 AM
Why? In my opinion this thread doesn’t break the rules of this forum.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: W1JKA on December 20, 2013, 05:09:18 AM
Re: SP8HMZ

Hmm let's see, to date 899 readers of your direct niche marketing approach here on eHam. You can figure at least 25% of those have checked in twice, say 674 targeted so simply take the percentage of these who have registered on your site so far (if any) and you will get a good idea of the future viability of your site.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: N5INP on December 20, 2013, 05:23:31 AM
I've been thinking about creating a place for hams all around the world on the Internet and I started working on a social network-type project. I've created it. Feel free to register, try all features of it and share it among other hams. It's amazing place for all hams. HamWorld has over 100 users, you can be next!
I hope you'll like HamWorld :)

Address of HamWorld is http://hamworld.net/

I doubt it's going to fly, but all you can do is try it. You'll find out soon enough whether it will succeed or fail.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 20, 2013, 06:10:10 AM
No, register and be part of HamWorld! First you could take a look on HamWorld and, if you like it, sign up and write, comment, like, share, etc.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: KF5ZGZ on December 20, 2013, 09:03:18 AM
I know how SP8HMZ feels. Starting any website where people contribute to the content is quite difficult. I already posted the link to my forum which is just in its infancy. I accidently posted two topics on here about it...so if any of you noticed, please accept my apology for the duplication.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I think with the advent of Facebook, any new website, specifically social networking oriented ones, it will be difficult to compete. Personally, I think forums are a better alternative to social networking when it comes to discussion. I mean, who would you rather have controlling the content, Facebook goons, or a fellow ham? That's why eham is so nice. It's also nice to have options. And even running my own forum, eham.net will always be an option for me to turn to. So when it comes to your social network, I wish you all the best. I may head on over there and see what it has to offer.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 20, 2013, 10:14:39 AM
Jason, thank you very much. I'm happy that you know that developing a website, especially a social network, is very difficult. That's true, of course. Starting to develop this is the hardest.

Thanks for tips and your opinion. Facebook is good, but HamWorld should be better, becouse it was made especially for hams. And admin (me) is ham, like on eHam. Next, HamWorld has another features, like possibility to write personal blog or creating one big set of photos and videos.

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I may head on over there and see what it has to offer.
I invite you to register, of course. :)

73,
Karol SP8HMZ
admin of HamWorld


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: KF5ZGZ on December 20, 2013, 11:12:29 AM
I'm unable to do so at this time. Link is blocked at my current location.


Title: RE: HamWorld - a new social network for hams
Post by: SP8HMZ on December 20, 2013, 11:19:17 AM
It's strange. You could try later.