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1  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Wideband short dipole matching with loose link coupling? on: May 11, 2013, 08:01:44 AM
I suppose one problem might be that the simple impedance calculation I used doesn't consider resistive and reactive components of impedance, relying only on the formula Z=V/I, driving the circuit with a current source of 1 amp, and taking the measured voltage across the link as the impedance seen by the link. Perhaps this simplified impedance calculation is the problem.

I wouldn't proceed further until you know the complex impedance you're seeing across the link.

I think your plot is mostly showing the inductive reactance of the link itself:

http://goo.gl/AS35b
http://goo.gl/79Eu5
2  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Can we tune a short dipole with a capacitor? on: May 06, 2013, 06:45:06 AM
You can put it at the feedpoint. I tuned my 60 foot vertical on 160m with a capacitor. I happened to have a 2000pF vacuum variable which is only 44 ohms reactance when fully meshed. That's a reactance that in my case was less than a 10% increase in the required loading inductance, so I felt it was a reasonable compromise.

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A single variable capacitor at the feedpoint would allow that one capacitor to supply the required variable (capacitive) reactance for both dipole legs in a balanced fashion

That's not really balanced.
3  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Designing extremely short vertical dipole on: April 20, 2013, 01:56:35 PM
It's sunny, 70 degrees, not a cloud in the sky, and the catfish are biting. How could an NYC apartment possibly be better than that?

It's... complicated Grin
4  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Designing extremely short vertical dipole on: April 20, 2013, 11:08:44 AM
When you say you don't need as many turns "on the main", do you mean "the main side of the transformer itself, connected in series with the dipole legs, requires fewer turns", or do you mean "the secondary coupling link that is wound 'on (top of) the main' side of the transformer requires fewer turns"?

I mean that the side of the transformer/mid-loading inductor connected physically to the antenna doesn't need to have as many turns as if you were assuming a transformer with perfect flux linkage and a certain turns ratio. We match to a magloop by having a big loop with one turn and a little loop with one turn; only a portion of the flux from the big loop couples to the small loop and you use that to make an impedance transformation. No reason why you can't use the same principle for a link coupling arrangement in the middle of a short dipole, if you  want to keep most of the loading inductance at the end and then only want to put a turn or three in the center. Adjusting the link size and even its orientation can change the impedance seen on the transmitter side. Gives you some extra adjustments beyond the turns ratio of inductor in the antenna and the link.

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That would then be something like the ferrite coupling transformer sometimes used on magnetic loops, right?

Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

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Oh no! I seem to recall reading somewhere here on eham that you stated you would be moving into a smaller residence again. I had hoped we might see some new limited-space antenna designs! Smiley

Recent events have upended most aspects of my planned career path (to the extent that I had a plan) and my personal life. It's not a dire situation but it's an unbalancing and chaotic one, and I need to focus my energy away from hobbies.

I'm hoping to be a NYC apartment dweller as soon as possible but I need to find a job there first and it might be a while after that I get back around to ham radio Grin   
5  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Designing extremely short vertical dipole on: April 19, 2013, 07:51:40 PM
A key question is indeed how much inductance is needed in the center portion for effective link coupling. I don't even have a foggy notion of how to begin to compute this, or how to define "effective" link coupling. I started trying to think about broadband transformer design and the suggested minimum winding impedances, but I'm not sure if that's the right way to approach this problem of link coupling to a loaded dipole. Any tips on where to start? 50% of the loading inductance in the middle? 10%? 5%?

Keep in mind that you COULD do this like you do with a magloop: get lower mutual coupling by making the coupling link loop smaller than the main loop. Then you don't need as many turns on the main.

In terms of how much inductance to put in the center, I would base that on radiation resistance considerations. Use as much as necessary out further in the radiator to make the current profile flat and raise the radiation resistance (I model this losslessly so that Rrad is what I'm adjusting, then add loss resistance in later). Put the rest in the middle.

A broadband transformer could work too.

I want to do some experiments with link coupling for attempted noise reduction but I might never get around to it. Reached a point where ham radio experiments are going to take a back seat to everything else for quite a while.



6  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Designing extremely short vertical dipole on: April 19, 2013, 06:54:42 AM
I'm having a little trouble conceptualizing the lumped circuit equivalent of a loaded dipole, how the loading inductance fits into that equivalent circuit, and how the feedpoint impedance transformation occurs with the low-inductance tap.

Your equivalent circuit looks good... the circuit can be visualized as a series LCR where C has the capacitive reactance of the antenna, R is the combined loss and radiation resistance, and L is the loading inductance.

In my experience the tapped-coil version can roughly be approximated by a two-inductance L network instead of your transformer. There is maybe also some autotransformer action but that didn't seem to be the case for a large loading coil I compared with calculations.
7  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Designing extremely short vertical dipole on: April 18, 2013, 05:42:54 AM
How about end feeding at one end-located loading coil, and tapping up on loading coil to achieve the impedance transformation? Could that work?

I would strongly recommend that you don't rely on inductive/resistive chokes for feedline decoupling if you feed near an end.

Ultra short off balance antennas are great feedline exciters. I've tried some models with physical connections to the bottom of a short hatted dipole and needed 100k ohms for effective choking. That's like a trap. It is possible to adjust off-center-fed short antennas so they simply overwhelm a modest inductive/resistive choke like a common ferrite. You can reduce the common mode CURRENT to a reasonable fraction of the radiator current with, say, 5000-10000 ohms impedance but then a good broadband choke can have a fair amount of loss. Every situation is different and I'm mainly conveying some things I've observed n models and some experiments that weren't really an antenna.

Link coupling is a good approach because then the common mode impedance you insert is quite high and purely capacitive.

Now, it's possible that you won't have any common mode PROBLEMS especially at QRP but there's a large class of asymmetrically fed "short antennas" that are really just coax-exciting tank circuits and adding ferrite chokes that would be effective on a big dipole would just add a bunch of loss. You will note that many of these antennas sold commercially will strongly advise against chokes.

If you really want excellent feed decoupling, link coupling at the center is probably the best way to go, but I haven't done the work to check different approaches there quantitatively.

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Regarding common mode currents (which may be a problem due both to the end feeding and due to the autotransformer approach), is there an easy way to test if I have common mode currents, without using sophisticated test equipment?

A current meter is pretty easy to build. Just a transformer, diode, capacitor and meter.

http://www.w8ji.com/building_a_current_meter.htm
8  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Designing extremely short vertical dipole on: April 16, 2013, 07:42:31 AM
I'm beginning to suspect my method of modeling the shunt coil (beta match) is inappropriate so that the coil value is somehow not properly affecting the resistive portion of feedpoint impedance. I simply declared a lumped RLC assigned to the same segment as the feedpoint (source).

You need to make sure it's assigned to be in PARALLEL with the source. I haven't messed around with bare NEC-2 or 4nec2 enough to know how to do this but I think there's a different setting or flag or whatever to put two objects on the same segment in parallel instead of series.

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For modeling purposes you can also calculate the required shunt inductance exactly (or nearly so) from the modeled resistance to help you dial in the right values. The feedpoint impedance Zf = Rf+jXf with NO shunt should be adjusted so that it presents the following reactance Xf (this is usually easy enough to do as long as Rf doesn't change much at the desired operating frequency, otherwise it will take iteration), and then you should place a shunt reactance Xs also calculated below across the feedpoint.

For feedpoint resistance Rf:  
1)Calculate delta = sqrt(50/Rf-1)
2)Adjust the loading inductors/cap hats such that Xf = -delta*Rf
3)Then calculate the shunt reactance Xs = +50/delta

The parallel combination of Zf and Xs should then be 50+j0. If you want something other than 50 ohms, replace the "50"s above with the desired feed resistance when matched.

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Example: say Zf = 9+jXf where Xf can be adjusted by tuning with no shunt.
Xf = -9*sqrt(50/9-1) = -19.2 ==> Zf = 9-j19.2
Xs = +50/sqrt(50/9-1) = +23.43

When in parallel, Zmatched = Xs||Zf

Zmatched = 1/(1/(9-j*19.2) + 1/(j*23.43)) = 49.96-j0.05 ( http://goo.gl/LemgY )
9  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: 40 meter vertical on: April 11, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
I added a base
coil of just 2 turns of wire of about 4 inches in diameter. Now it's below
1.5 to 1 from 7.150 to 7.425. is it normal for such a small length of wire
to cause this dramatic change of the resonant frequency

Sounds reasonable to me.
10  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Small multiturn wire loops for transmitting on: April 09, 2013, 08:14:00 AM
Can I take that to mean that if we have to wonder about the efficiency of the antenna, it's probably not worth writing home about?

Oh, I don't know about that. There may be something to some of the approaches, especially if constraints force you toward wire.

I think my comment is more about the fact that efficiency comparisons if they're even present tend to have a lot of issues. There are a lot of S-meter readings, or just "works well, I worked Cuba from Ohio" sort of reports.  There are a lot of antennas that get tested against antennas that are probably strongly coupled to the loop (this happened during some of my tests when I first built a magloop and was significant).  There are a lot of tests I've seen, not just of magloops but of all manner of small antennas for the 40m band installed on the top of 20-25 foot high supports. No attention is paid to measuring feedline decoupling. Many of that class of antennas are probably best characterized as hard to tune top loaded verticals with no radials.

You know, like this: http://n3ox.net/files/tunerant/tuner_ant.jpg

None of that is STRICTLY a problem in a hobby context, but it contributes to a horrible signal-to-noise ratio for advice for hams operating from an apartment building with a couple meters of feedline, hams who have a backyard that would accommodate a 15 foot high loaded vertical with radials, or hams who like activities that need performance approaching a "big and good" antenna.

It doesn't count as a magnetic loop if stray currents give you an order of magnitude more radiation resistance, it doesn't add to good antenna information if it's actually a tenth as efficient as a simple approach that's comparable in complexity and cost, and so on.
11  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Asymmetrical magloops - bad idea, right? on: April 08, 2013, 05:45:36 AM
My hunch is that kind of feed system will often have feedline decoupling problems anyway.
12  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Small multiturn wire loops for transmitting on: April 08, 2013, 05:11:11 AM
I wonder about the efficiency of these antennas, and if they behave similarly to traditional "small transmitting loops". Any thoughts?

Yeah. I wonder why we always have to wonder Grin
13  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Rebuilt Rotators & who sells on: April 02, 2013, 04:56:37 AM
I bought a rebuilt HD-73 from Norm's Rotor Service a while back; I had a spare controller but no rotor. Beautiful condition, works great.
14  eHam Forums / DXing / RE: How many of us are not using beams? on: March 29, 2013, 05:27:04 AM
It's unlikely that I'll be using any beams in the near future but I haven't figured out what I will be using Grin  Just took all my antennas down (including beams that worked on 20/17/15/12) for a move.
15  eHam Forums / DXing / RE: Any New Antennas Planned for DX-ing? on: March 25, 2013, 08:17:03 AM
Pretty sure that time has come in this boy's life to set DXing aside to focus on other things, but we'll see. I'll make sure to put something up for Heard anyway.

Looks like I'm going back into apartment living soon, but it would be fun to try more of my tiny antenna ideas "in the field" with daily use.

I might start to do something different, though, like QRP digital.
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