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61  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Using an MFJ-269 to measure wires? on: October 26, 2012, 11:55:05 AM
I want to build a 4 element collinear (horizontal, for 48.85 MHz, not vertical) from a 1960 ARRL antenna book.  I thought I could use my MFJ-269 to check the lengths of the 1/4 wave phasing stubs and 1/2 wave elements, but from the manual it's not clear just how.

The manual should be clear. All you do is leave the far end of the cable or stub open and tune the analyzer for minimum Z. That will be the frequency where it is an odd quarter wave long. If you make the stub for 49 MHz, the dip will be at 49 MHz. If it dips high, it is too short. If impedance dips too low in frequency, the stub is too long.

To check the half wave, do the same and dip at half frequency or short it and dip at full frequency.

If you are trying to check the element length, you would have to do it like a dipole.... or do it by formula. 

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The phasing stubs will be 1/4 wave pieces of zip cord, probably coiled up.  I don't know the velocity factor.
 

That's a VERY bad idea. I'd use twin lead or ladder line at a minimum, and preferably an air insulated stub.

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The 1/2 wave elements will be about 10 foot long pieces of plain bare wire.  Measuring the complete antenna isn't going to tell me much because it's a 4 element collinear with 4 half wave straight sections and 2 phasing stubs.  I need to cut the pieces to length before I put them together.  The 48.85 MHz is a locally quiet frequency for doing radio astronomy.
 

Is there a link to the antenna?

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Aperture counts here, which is why I want to use a collinear.

Physical size is NOT related directly to capture area except in very special cases of standard high-efficiency antennas. Some virtually lossless perfect dish antennas, for example, have a known size to capture area relationship.

Capture area relates directly to GAIN and frequency. As such, it really has nothing to do with physical size with nearly all real antennas.

If both antennas are on the same frequency, an antenna ten miles long with 3 dB gain has less capture area than an antenna three inches long with 4 dB gain.

http://www.w8ji.com/capture_area_ae_effective_aperture.htm



62  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Antenna radial material?? on: October 26, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
How fast aluminum goes away depends on the soil, how thick the wire is, and what else is in the ground system.

Aluminum certainly is not a first choice for soil contact.

I buy bare #16 copper buss wire. It lasts until something cuts through it, plus I can solder it. Smiley
63  eHam Forums / Amplifiers / RE: Ameritron AL-572 Burning Smell on: October 26, 2012, 11:30:37 AM
If you look at the relay near the resistor, it looks like the armature has slipped out of place. This happens if there is a really hard drop on the amplifier. What happens is the G-force of the sudden stop overpowers the relay spring, and unseats the armature. This picture seems to show the armature as not seated flat in the relay frame:

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh88/funbiz99/al572%20eham/P1040135.jpg

That could be an illusion, but it looks skewed.


Further along that line, it looks like the physical hit was hard enough the transformer under the tubes hit the chassis and chipped. I can see a definite chip in the core right where it would hit the chassis, and other signs of a pretty hard drop. (Actually the drop doesn't matter, the stop does.)

UNPLUG the amplifier, be SURE you unplug it, and you should be able to grab the relay armature and slip it back into place.

I would also IMMEDIATELY call the shipper and say it appears to have concealed damage, and be sure to save the boxes. I would carefully and closely inspect the amplifier for bent metal, like the chassis below the transformer where the G-force of the transformer might bend the steel bottom.

What shape are the boxes in, and where was it shipped from? You can tell a hard drop by the cardboard being crushed either inside or outside.

It should have been double boxed with foam supports on the amplifier. Were the inner foam cushions in place? Look at the packing closely.

64  eHam Forums / CW / RE: CQ CQ DE ... ..... ... / CWT on: October 25, 2012, 10:15:28 AM
On Tuesdays and Thursdays usually between 1130 to 1330 UTC. Usually linger around 7000 - 7030. Lately also on 15 meters catching some DX.

That's odd. It does not seem to agree with the website.
65  eHam Forums / Site Talk / Post within last 120 seconds on: October 25, 2012, 10:07:09 AM
The "last post from your IP within last 120 seconds" is annoying.  Smiley

When it comes up, I go back and wait. Then I click the post again. Then it says "duplicate post you already posted this". Then I check and it does not appear, so apparently I did not really post it even though eHam thinks I did.

So I just give up.
66  eHam Forums / CW / RE: What is 72? on: October 25, 2012, 09:59:30 AM
It's the QRP version of 73. Do more with less.

OK, thanks. I wondered what it was.

At what power level is 72 preferable or acceptable compared to 73? This is common?
67  eHam Forums / Amplifiers / RE: Repeated "ON/OFF" cycles vs. "just leave it on"... on: October 25, 2012, 09:50:14 AM
It is a different world today with import parts, plush use and bause varies, so it is impossible to predict which way is better.

Generally, if I had instant-on type tubes, I would turn the amplifier OFF.

If I had a heater cathode tube of good quality, like an Eimac 8877, I'd most certainly not cycle filaments off and on very often.


I have troubles with spell check and eHam I guess. That should have been:

It is a different world today with import parts, plus use and abuse varies, so it is impossible to predict which way is better.

Generally, if I had instant-on type tubes, I would turn the amplifier OFF.

If I had a heater cathode tube of good quality, like an Eimac 8877, I'd most certainly not cycle filaments off and on very often.


68  eHam Forums / CW / What is 72? on: October 25, 2012, 09:27:09 AM
OK, I know all about 88, 73, 10-4, 666, and even 69, but what is 72 and why do we need it?

I hear people saying 72 to each other today. Is that "regards" instead of "best regards"?
69  eHam Forums / Elmers / RE: Amperage of 12vdc relay for remote antenna switch on: October 25, 2012, 07:40:19 AM
And AC5UP: sorry for confusing you with Tom W8JI...

I've been called worse. Not much worse, but worse..........  Cheesy




Thanks for the compliment, Vinnie.
70  eHam Forums / Elmers / RE: SSB interfacing problem (PC/rig) on: October 25, 2012, 07:37:30 AM
You probably have a ground loop. This is very common with wiring errors on unbalanced audio lines, and sounds like you describe.

You might read this:

http://www.w8ji.com/cables_and_wiring.htm
71  eHam Forums / Elmers / RE: Lightning Protection For The Home? on: October 25, 2012, 07:32:28 AM
The lightning rod we call an antenna has been well reviewed. However, there are other paths for lightning to do damage to transceivers, computers and TVs. I need some advice not on the antenna area but power-line protection. Specifically are power strips, with built-in protection, effective? Are whole house protection any more effective? Any specific product recommendations?
Thanks Dick  N3HKN


Read some of this and page links:

http://www.w8ji.com/lightning.htm

Especially this, which also applies to lightning:

http://www.w8ji.com/consumer_equipment_rfi.htm
72  eHam Forums / Elmers / RE: AL-811H high plate current on: October 25, 2012, 07:26:51 AM
Hello everyone,

I purchased an Ameritron AL-811H amp. Per the tuning up instructions in the operator's manual on page 6, the plate current with no exciter drive should be 125 ma. My meter is indicating 175-180ma. Should I be concerned about this? I have the amp set for 240 volt operation. My line voltage reads about 241 volts. Other than this, the '811H still loads up per the operator manual.

Thank you,
Tom, N8EUI


What year was the amp made?

Tubes changed charateristics and started drawing more current. If it is an older amp without bias diodes, you might need to add about 3-4 volts of bias in the center tap lead. You can do that with a string of diodes.

Read this, especially 1, 2, and 4:

http://www.w8ji.com/ameritron_811h_572_amplifier_trouble_shooting.htm
73  eHam Forums / CW / RE: ARRRGGGH!! I HATE LIDS on: October 25, 2012, 07:15:44 AM
Unless he has a really old poor receiver, an image is virtually impossible.

Almost everything beyond 1970 was a dual conversion receiver with a high IF frequency. Even in the 1960's, the SX101 and others used ~1700 kHz as a first IF. The image of that old stuff is 3.4 MHz away.

With broadband front ends, they had to move first IF's up to 5 MHz and higher.   This places the image 10 MHz away.

Rigs like Yaesu and others now use 40 MHz or similar for 1st IF, which places the image around 80 MHz away.  The low 455 IF's, while still used, always follow multiple narrow filters making any 910 kHz  image virtually immeasurable, because the image is filtered by multiple stages of crystal filters. The normal scheme is a low VHF first IF, 8 MHz second IF, and 455 third.

Highly unlikely the 455 factors into anything, unless the receiver is very old or a very cheap receiver with a oscillator tracking RF stage. That 455 image stuff pretty much went away in the 70's.

CB'ers on ten meters, however, are quite common. The truck stop on I-75 just north of me openly sells illegal 50-watt ten meter AM-FM radios to truckers. They are right out on the counter in plain sight. I can tune ten meters almost any time of the day and find truckers on ten meters, and the signals are NOT images. They are intentional, mostly AM, but sometimes FM.

73 Tom
74  eHam Forums / CW / RE: CQ CQ DE ... ..... ... / CWT on: October 25, 2012, 07:03:08 AM
You may be hearing the CW Operator's Club Contest...CQ CWT
Here is the link  http://www.cwops.org/onair.html


It's nice to promote CW, but that seems like an odd frequency choice. They say:

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Six bands are to be used – 10, 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160m.  Suggested frequencies are from 018 to 028 kHz up from band edges, plus or minus as activity dictates.

On upper bands 18-28 up from band bottom is mostly extra class, with only 3 kHz for other classes. 160 meters, 1820 to 1828 is commonly used for DX work.   :-)

As for time:

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Times:  On the second and fourth Wednesday of each month at 1300 - 1400z (favoring Asia/Pacific); 1900 - 2000z (favoring Europe/Africa); and 0300 - 0400z –Thursday (Wednesday evening in US/Canada).

NOTE: See Scores Page for exact dates of CWT each month.


It doesn't look like it is more than 1 hour on Wednesdays. Maybe you are hearing something else? What time are you mobile??
75  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Tennadyne T11 on: October 25, 2012, 06:45:30 AM
I don't know about the current manual, but the old manual guaranteed wrong assembly. It told people to tape the coax along a boom.

Since each boom is one conductor of a two conductor balanced transmission line, this is exactly like telling people to tape coax to one wire of an open wire line.

http://www.w8ji.com/baluns_on_log_perodic_antennas.htm

Before I installed a log, I'd make sure the feedline was routed correctly.

73 Tom
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