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106  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: 2 meter/ 70 cm antenna: indoor vs outdoor. on: December 16, 2012, 05:19:22 PM
The difference in gain from being outside compared to being indoors would outweigh the height differential. A couple of feet difference in height isn't going to be noticeable.

What is the guttering of your house made of? If it is metal then get a gutter mount for the antenna and clamp it to that. Personally I'd be inclined to get it on the roof or on the top of the gable end on a small bracket.
107  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: RAIN GUTTER ANTENNA on: December 16, 2012, 07:58:43 AM
Use something like an SG auto tuner and run some ground radials. That would make it ideal.

I'm sure the SGC230 manual even shows using gutters as one of the options for stealth antennas.
108  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Does the body of a mobile installation radiate RF power? on: December 14, 2012, 04:01:08 PM
At longer distances, the repeater height does play a huge part in how far it can send a signal.
However a mobile is still looking at the horizon for the signal at longer distances  so an antenna with a low angle response is the better choice.
The OCF antenna design being referred to is about a 1/3 wave length radiator with four  7 to 10 inch radials making it in 'effect' and OCF design same as a horizontal OCF would be.


Really it doesn't.  You're building a 1/3 wave groundplane antenna.

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The idea is to get the center length to match at it's best then adjust the radial angle for more SWR improvement.
How is that any different to a quarter wave groundplane antenna which has a feedpoint impedance partially dependent on the angle of the radials?

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I travel 70+ miles out through the mountains from the local repeaters in the area and see where the signals are low and lost.
I can tell you that sat here. It is where the repeater antenna is masked from your antenna by the terrain around you. Firing a signal more horizontally will not overcome this. And when you're in the same valley as the repeater is on the mountain top several hundred feet above, firing out a signal horizontally is worse than one with a more vertical take off.

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Out beyond these distances at high elevations I can still hear and get back into two repeaters.
You will because you have clear line of sight. At that point then an antenna with a more horizontal take off angle is beneficial.

I struggle to get wifi throughout my house yet I can put the router outside and get good signal strength accessing it with my mobile phone from several hundred feet away.

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Bottom line it's all Ham radio and playing with designs when the conditions are there to do it.
Thanks.

Absolutely but I suggest you re-read your course study material about how VHF works. It may save you a lot of head scratching wondering why you've a notable improvement at high elevations but a degradation at lower ones.
109  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Does the body of a mobile installation radiate RF power? on: December 13, 2012, 12:35:05 PM
If the antenna is a half wavelength or longer, it will have little dependence on the car body.

Considering you are trying to get more gain with FM repeaters I'm not sure how you would benefit from a OCF Dipole. Also you don't use a OCF with radials - I'm a bit confused as to what you think they'd achieve.

Also as you don't want horizontal take off to be the max gain due to the fact the repeater antennas are higher than you, you could actually find a quarter wave antenna would work better than a 5/8 wave or longer depending on the height differential.

110  eHam Forums / Elmers / RE: Does Your Next of Kin......... on: December 12, 2012, 04:36:26 PM
Have ANY idea what your equipment is worth?


As far as the XYL is concerned whenever I buy anything its £14.99.  Grin
111  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: Mobile antenna for 10-80M, brands, experience, good & bad info needed on: December 11, 2012, 05:05:45 PM
Forget 80m...all you'll do is prove QRP works.

My choices would be Scorpion and then Tarheel. High Sierra AFAIK are no longer making them.

I have a Little Tarheel II which works fine for me with a 72" whip. Its not the most efficient but it gets out OK and because I can get it on the roof of my car probably works better than a large screwdriver poorly installed on a tow hitch.
112  eHam Forums / Mobile Ham / RE: Hamstick, Hi-Q or Tarheel 40 or 75 on: December 11, 2012, 07:41:40 AM

Jerry, I'm in the minority on this, but I often tell people that hamsticks or similar are a great way to get started.  They're cheap and convenient, they work well for 20 and up, and you can always sell them once you are ready for a different antenna system. 

With them using a 3/8 mount, if you do a proper job of the installation with the bonding etc etc then upgrading to such as the Little Tarheel II or 75 is simply a matter of screwing it to where the Hamstick sat and running the motor control leads.
113  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: 15th floor apartment and QRP on: December 11, 2012, 07:37:51 AM
If you have a space 8ft x 8ft take a look at the G3TPW Cobwebb. 20-10m fullsize dipoles in a 8ft square.

Steve G3TXQ redesigned it to make it easier to build homebrew.

http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/cobweb/
114  eHam Forums / Elmers / RE: HF winter propagation on: December 09, 2012, 09:09:29 AM
Something is broken if you've not heard European stations on 20m during the day/early evening.
115  eHam Forums / Antennas and Towers and more / RE: DX Engineering ATSA-1 Auto Tuned HF Stealth Antenna System - Thoughts on: December 08, 2012, 11:15:00 AM
I use a SGC230 with 75ft of wire and that'll tune on 160m.

The DX Engineering item seems to be DX Engineering bundling a bunch of stuff together to form a kit for those too lazy to get the bits together themselves and for which DX Engineering charge a premium.
116  eHam Forums / Mobile Ham / RE: Wouxon KG-uv920r on: December 07, 2012, 08:18:54 AM
Hi,  I am considering a Wouxon mobile radio.  I don't see many that say they have experience with them. 

What are your thoughts?

KD7RAT

Not true dual receive. The primary side takes over the audio. Selector control has been shown to be intermittent. Depreciation will be a killer.

For £60 more in the UK you can buy a Kenwood TM-V71E which is infinitely better.
117  eHam Forums / Misc / RE: The Sine Qua Non of the coming Kenwood TS-990 on: December 07, 2012, 08:15:59 AM
My take of the TS990 is it is effectively a SDR with knobs and buttons. It will have the advantages of a SDR - panadapter, excellent brick wall filtering, the ability to sample a large bandwidth etc but you won't need a PC or get RSI from using the mouse to alter the RF gain.  Grin
118  eHam Forums / Elmers / RE: mobile TX on 2m and CB wipes out car radio (2001 Subaru Forester) on: December 06, 2012, 08:24:21 AM
My VHF/UHF transceiver - a TM-D710 is installed about as good as it is possible to do. Antenna mounted by hole drilled in the middle of the roof, wiring to battery with 50A rated cable, all panels bonded. No problem hitting a repeater 60 miles away over a range of hills.

It will desense the FM radio in the car when I transmit. It is more to do with the poor filtering of the FM radio than the 710 installation.

Manufacturer car radios are built down to a price. You would probably find a decent one such as a Clarion would not suffer as much.

At the end of the day though if you've got an antenna with a radio transmitting 10W, 25W, 50W on VHF a few feet away from another one for the FM radio you are going to get desense unless you start using bandpass filters or using a stub to notch the 2m frequencies.
119  eHam Forums / Mobile Ham / RE: Hamstick, Hi-Q or Tarheel 40 or 75 on: December 05, 2012, 05:18:54 PM

Removing the car body in exchange for the sloped radials exceeded my expectations when comparing the vertical radiator while including the car body being driven with the shielding.


Of course there would be a big difference. I can't believe you actually would expect to see something different. Roll Eyes
120  eHam Forums / Misc / RE: The Sine Qua Non of the coming Kenwood TS-990 on: December 05, 2012, 05:15:48 PM


Even if Kenwood does deliver miracle receiver performance I can bet you a thousand dollars that its transmitter will have poor TX IMD

The IMD is due to using 12V finals both to allow a TRX to be used mobile and cost cutting, neither of which will be the case with the TS990. As it is mains powered with no 12V DC socket I doubt very much they will use 12V finals.

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Expecting better receiver numbers that cant be used? This is a dead end road because of all the splatter  on the ham bands.
Maybe you should learn how to use your radio.
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