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 51 
 on: Today at 04:54:47 PM 
Started by KF7VXA - Last post by AA4PB
When mounting the antenna close to the roof, even if the roof is wood construction, may place it close to metal flashing and wires and metal ductwork inside the attic. This could affect the radiation pattern and losses.

 52 
 on: Today at 04:54:37 PM 
Started by KJ4Z - Last post by KD8MJR
NO...... you nailed it!   It's because it's DIFFERENT!  Anybody can dial up on their cell phone, anybody can go on line and search for anything. Anybody can.
BUT..... WHO can hang an antenna, set up a station and talk to people around the world, with no wires and no internet or cell phones? YOU can if you want to be an amateur radio operator. It takes skill to do ham radio, because it's DIFFERENT.  
When I was a kid, I was always seeing these little ads in the back of comic books or pop science, or wherever, showing a little guy with a round head with headphones on and little sparks coming out of his head. It showed another little guy, usually depicted as an oriental person looking the same way, sparks and all. These guys were actually talking to one another, ON THE RADIO, AROUND THE WORLD.
That is actually what got me interested in ham radio, and even though I waited 50+ years to get started, I love this hobby, and I think youngsters would as well...... why, why?Huh  Because it's DIFFERENT!  Not everybody can do what we do.
Sorry, got a little carried away..
73, Gene AF3Y

No Gene you did not get carried away, you nailed it on the head.
The only reply that WO7R can come up with is going to be some long winded reply full of the usual.
Anyone who knows the truth can see that you are talking from the heart.

73s
Rob

 53 
 on: Today at 04:53:21 PM 
Started by KJ4Z - Last post by N5INP
NO...... you nailed it!   It's because it's DIFFERENT!  Anybody can dial up on their cell phone, anybody can go on line and search for anything. Anybody can.

Thanks - I appreciate that.  Smiley

 54 
 on: Today at 04:52:24 PM 
Started by KJ4Z - Last post by WS3N
In the following cases, all stations (remote or otherwise) are in CONUS, the first station on one coast and any new station on the other, and all credits are applied to the same DXCC account. Which of the following do you find acceptable? This need not be the same as simply being allowed within the rules.

1. The base case. I erect an antenna in the backyard and operate from my house. This is the only station I have ever used for this account.

2. I operate my station - same rig, same antenna, etc. - remotely, because I moved, or I'm traveling, or just because I want to do it.

3. I move and build a new station with the same gear. I can suddenly hear and work places that I couldn't at the old station.

4. I build a second station and operate it remotely.

5. I travel to a friend's house and use his station.

6. I use my friend's station remotely.

7. I travel to and use a rented station.

8. I use the rented station remotely.

9. I can't have a station where I live. I built and operate one remotely.

10. I can't have a station where I live. I rent and operate one remotely, but it's always the same one.


Personally, I only like 1, but 2 would be acceptable. If I couldn't use my backyard I might go for 9, but I probably wouldn't find it worth the effort.

 55 
 on: Today at 04:50:19 PM 
Started by KG0DB - Last post by KG0DB
Apparently the hobby is "achangin'".

 56 
 on: Today at 04:49:47 PM 
Started by KJ4Z - Last post by AF3Y
Even supposing it went down like that, in whole or in part, what's wrong with it?

If you can't see it for yourself, would it do any good to spell it out for you?

Quote
Again, look at the young.  They carry their phones and/or tablets everywhere.  They think in mobile terms.  I'm talking 30, maybe 40 year olds.  How are you going to interest them in your position?  When everything else is mobile, why not the ham station?  That's a tough argument to fight.  You just look like an old man when your argument has that kind of effect.  "Hey kid, go sit at your desktop PC".  Try that argument on for size.  But, the kid has had a laptop for 10 years and an iPhone for 5.  They won't even listen.  They'll laugh.  You think the radio is any different?  You mas as well try and chain them to a desktop PC.

Well you really have the idea all wrong. I love technology, I'm totally into science and technology. You are missing the point - by a long shot.

I'll try again but I doubt you will understand (or admit you understand)

Another analogy -

Suppose you have a group of furniture makers that are totally into hand made furniture. Of course they can use power tools and most of them build furniture like that, But they also have an award for the best hand made furniture - no power tools allowed. Does that mean they are against tech advancement! Does that mean they are old fogies? Does that mean they are stuck in the dark ages?

No!

It simply means that they have a category for hand-made furniture, because it's a challenge. That's all. And so, it means that NO power tools are allowed to build the furniture. Are you with me?

So it is with ham radio. For crap's sake it's 2015 - what are we even doing messing around with utterly noisy comms with people halfway across the world when we have satellites, the internet, and cell phones! Why are we even doing this at all? You speak of technology? This is some if the worst technology available to communicate with other countries! It's awful a lot of the time. Why, with all the technology you seem to want to integrate, do we persist at all with outdated modes? Why do we do it? Why do people make hand-made furniture in the 21st century?

Because of the challenge! It's RADIO - RF - not internet enabled radio.

So, like banning power tools from a hand-made furniture contest, so it is with RHR from DXCC awards.

Another wasted post I guess ...


NO...... you nailed it!   It's because it's DIFFERENT!  Anybody can dial up on their cell phone, anybody can go on line and search for anything. Anybody can.
BUT..... WHO can hang an antenna, set up a station and talk to people around the world, with no wires and no internet or cell phones? YOU can if you want to be an amateur radio operator. It takes skill to do ham radio, because it's DIFFERENT.  
When I was a kid, I was always seeing these little ads in the back of comic books or pop science, or wherever, showing a little guy with a round head with headphones on and little sparks coming out of his head. It showed another little guy, usually depicted as an oriental person looking the same way, sparks and all. These guys were actually talking to one another, ON THE RADIO, AROUND THE WORLD.
That is actually what got me interested in ham radio, and even though I waited 50+ years to get started, I love this hobby, and I think youngsters would as well...... why, why?Huh  Because it's DIFFERENT!  Not everybody can do what we do.
Sorry, got a little carried away..
73, Gene AF3Y

 57 
 on: Today at 04:45:08 PM 
Started by ONAIR - Last post by K7WCB
I just purchased my first, a $20.00 special from an internet shopping site named after a big river in S. America. It is a Kaito KA-321 that sips electrons by means of 2 AA's. I received it yesterday and listened to my first SW broadcasts last night, mostly Radio Havana. I bought the radio as a pocket AM/FM for when I'm hiking and camping in the woods. I was going to buy an AM/FM with a hand crank/weatherband/flashlight but my FT-60r handles the weather bands and I already have a flashlight. I thought the SW stuff would be a neat bonus, and it is. I've got my general ticket but never really listened to HF, other than CW when I built a Rockmite on 40 to try kit building. I work on learning CW from time to time but can't seem to stay with it yet. I've been a VHF guy but I'm migrating around the bands now. I'm glad that there is a SWL forum on here where I can glean some info from. I'd like to get my hands on an older tube radio, working or not and press it into service. The ones I've seen are already restored and are out my budget or total basket cases. The right one will present itself one of these days.

 58 
 on: Today at 04:44:32 PM 
Started by KG0DB - Last post by W4OP
I think, aside from the DX chasers most of whom use LOTW, QSLing has gone by the wayside.
The exception might be some EME bands. On 1296MHz EME there is almost a 100% QSL rate. Everyone has nice  photos of their huge dishes on the front of  the card- and it comes down to braggin' rights.

Dale W4OP

 59 
 on: Today at 04:44:23 PM 
Started by KJ4Z - Last post by N5INP
WO7R,

You are completely missing the point. I know you don't think so, but I'm telling you, you are. What you said has nothing to do with my point.

So good day, happy hamming, and all that, but really, you have your way of looking at it and so do I.

 60 
 on: Today at 04:39:49 PM 
Started by KJ4Z - Last post by WO7R
Quote
Suppose you have a group of furniture makers that are totally into hand made furniture. Of course they can use power tools and most of them build furniture like that, But they also have an award for the best hand made furniture - no power tools allowed. Does that mean they are against tech advancement! Does that mean they are old fogies? Does that mean they are stuck in the dark ages?

No!

Sorry, DXing has never been like that.  Do we have an AM award?  A spark award?

The other problem is, let's suppose you manage to establish such a group.  (Maybe, as some suggest, a separate awards category -- I've never opposed that).

It's generally true that there is also a group that makes things the "modern" way.  Usually, a much larger one.

What you want to do is turn DXCC into the equivalent of "Boat Anchor Central".  Others, citing other beloved technologies, have tried to do the same.  It was years before my time, but I still heard the criticism of "donald duck mode" when I got into hamming.  Yet, nobody would suggest abandoning SSB today.

Yes, you'll find some small group of young people willing to make furniture by hand or its radio equivalent.

But, most are going to look at radio the way we did -- in light of the current technology.  They are going to want to incorporate it.  They'll be quite happy to let you do your thing.  But what is theirs?

You really think you can stop them from using tablets, Arduino devices, and all the rest?  It just ain't going to happen.  That's where one goes exploring these days -- and those technologies inevitably lead to remote operation.

We'll have, in the not terribly distant future, tablet-based remotable software defined radio.  I bet most of the anti-crowd is uninterested in all of that.

But the youth won't be.  They have no reason to oppose it and every reason to explore it and adopt it.  Just as we did with the tech in our day.  You might as well have told us we had to use paper logs and forego PCs.

Look, in some respects, I'd actually like to agree with your argument.  I'm old enough now to wish for some "eternal verities".  But, this is a technical hobby and there just aren't such things.  You can't make people stick to tubes, paper logs, and non-remotable devices.  It's not that your argument isn't a nice one.  It's just that it has nothing to do with their value system and so, alas, you'll not be listened to.

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