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Author Topic: number of Amateurs with a Commercial license  (Read 9483 times)
KA1VF
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« on: April 01, 2015, 06:10:06 PM »

Discussion question:
                              What percentage of FCC (part# 97) Amateur Radio operators
                              are also FCC (part# 13) licensed Commercial Radio operators?

                              note: I'm one of them, and I'll guesstimate 5 %





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KC8WUC
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2015, 06:55:50 AM »

I would guesstimate between 10 and 15%.  If you figure that a number of licensees who are/were employed in the electronics field who were first drawn into their field because of ham radio and visa versa, I think that this would boost your 5% by one or two percent.  Throw in the number of Amateur radio licensees who have taken the Commercial exams for personal reasons (e.g., personal edification, to improve their knowledge, to help pass Advanced, General, or Extra exams, etc.), this would probably boost the percentage a by two or three percent. Just a guess. I'm not an actuarial, so I'm not the best at extrapolating numbers.

ARRL's website lists the current Amateur radio service at 728402 (http://www.arrl.org/fcc-license-counts), while the FCC website lists the number of Commercial Licenses at (495749).  Even breaking this down into the number of individuals who have GROL's alone is a daunting task (309,666).  Too much for me, I'm busy at sea.

Note to N2EY:  Any ideas for crunching the numbers?

Here's the break down on commercial licenses:

Telegraph Operator Licenses (301), First, Second, and Third Class Radiotelegraph Operator Certificates (159, 552, 29 respectively), GROL (309,666), Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit-Limited (11,098), Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit (110,719),  GMDSS Maintainer (1721), GMDSS Operator (20,366), GMDSS Maintainer/Operator (1834), GMDSS Operator Restricted (37), and MROL (39,267).

There is probably some overlap with the numbers of GMDSS Operator, GMDSS Maintainer, and GMDSS Operator/Maintainer.  I for one have the Telegraph Operator License, GROL, GMDSS Maintainer/Operator, and Extra Class Amateur License.

73,

Michael
KC8WUC/WDE9344 

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KB9CFH
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2015, 09:22:19 PM »

KB9CFH  Amateur Extra
General Radiotelephone with Radar  PGGB008679
Global Maritime Distress and Signaling System  OP/MAINT  DB00000330
Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit   RR00032558
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KC8WUC
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2015, 04:44:47 PM »

I would think that your Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit was eclipsed by your GROL.

Do you have your Merchant Mariner Credential and STCW? If so, do you have it for Deck Officer?

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Michael KC8WUC/WDE9344
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W1JKA
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2015, 03:03:26 AM »

All expired, had FCC Radio Telephone and 3rd class Radio Telegraph plus Radar/GDMS endorsements when I was a deck officer and Master in the Merchant Marine.
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KC8WUC
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2015, 05:27:29 AM »

3rd Class Radiotelegraph Certificate?  I take it that you didn't have your Radio Officer rating then.

What rating (tonnage and area- Great Lakes and Inland, Near Costal, Oceans) and type of vessels did you operate?

73,

Michael KC8WUC/WDE9344
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KB5ILY
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2015, 01:12:21 AM »

KB5ILY, Amateur Extra.
GROL, PG00041468.
Currently studying toward Radar Endorsement & GMDSS Op/Maint.

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KX4OM
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2015, 06:50:27 PM »

Amateur: Held Novice (1960), Technician, Conditional and now Advanced. No desire to amalgamate to Extra since the code requirement was dropped.
 
Commercial: Held 3rd Class (1970), 2nd Class and finally 1st Phone/Radar Endorsement (taken in Philadelphia FCC office along with Advanced at same time in 1979.) 1st Phone of course has since been downgraded to General by the FCC. Toughest exam was 2nd Class by a good margin; passed it on third time.

Ted, KX4OM
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KI4OYV
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2015, 06:44:10 AM »

Hello,
I got my GROL (96) before my Amateur license (06) Now 20 years will try for Extra.
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KC8WUC
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2015, 06:12:38 AM »

KB5ILY, Amateur Extra.
GROL, PG00041468.
Currently studying toward Radar Endorsement & GMDSS Op/Maint.



Do you have your Merchant Mariner Credential and Basic Safety Training STCW?  If not, the GMDSS license isn't much use to you for employment.  If you plan to use this on your own boat/ship, great, however a full compliment of equipment can be quite pricey, even in Sea Area A1.

Michael KC8WUC/WDE9344
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W1JKA
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2015, 05:10:08 AM »

3rd Class Radiotelegraph Certificate?  I take it that you didn't have your Radio Officer rating then.

What rating (tonnage and area- Great Lakes and Inland, Near Costal, Oceans) and type of vessels did you operate?

73,

Michael KC8WUC/WDE9344


Just saw this, No, not rated?? Just thought was nice to have along with my deck license as Master Mariner Oceans -Unlimited Tonnage and pilot endorsements 4th issue. Sailed as Master and Ch.Mate on VLCCs and RO-ROs.
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K1ZJH
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2015, 08:10:34 AM »

Amateur Extra... and FCC Second and First Class Radiotelephone since my high school days in the mid 1960's.

I still have the old FCC "blue Paper" with several sign offs from AM-FM-TV chief engineers at transmitter sites I worked for during my college and high school summer vacations.

Now that paper can be used in a bathroom for best utility, unfortunately...

Pete
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