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Author Topic: Antenna for my 1984 Ford F-150/camper?  (Read 8690 times)
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2016, 06:32:11 PM »

Looks more like a dual band 2m/440 antenna to me, which is useful with an 857d. Maybe add a 10m antenna on the other side? Or a small screwdriver if you want multi-hf-bands while mobile (not as useful for a technician)?
It's a Pulse/Larsen NMO- [27/30/34] B-TLM, missing the ball at the tip. I sold and installed hundreds in the 1980s.

Well if he is thinking about bands other than 10M mobile, I'm not sure where a TECH would transmit, other than 10M...Of course he can advance, but I can't see putting those kind of bucks out, on an unsure amateur radio future...
Techs have HF privileges on 80, 40 and 15m as well (Morse only). Mobile CW is a blast!

Realistically, on the road, something with a SS whip will be the best choice. Anything else tends to be destroyed when it strikes stuff on the road.

Bryan WA7PRC

What in the name of all common sense would a TECH know about code Huh
Obliviously, it depends on the individual. As strange as it may seem to you, there may be some who actually like and use Morse. Speaking for myself, as a Novice, I found it to be fun. After upgrading, I again found it FUN to operate Morse while mobile... DXing and contesting included. Now, back to CQ WW WPX CW.  Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2016, 05:12:01 AM »

Well he'll get 3 months of use being as the Sporadic E season is on

Most of time it will be dead quiet and grave yard quiet at night on 10.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2016, 06:16:27 AM »

Ten will be dead quiet at night anyway, even in an above average sunspot maximum (not like this mediocre one). That is the nature of the band.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2016, 02:04:19 PM »

Looks more like a dual band 2m/440 antenna to me, which is useful with an 857d. Maybe add a 10m antenna on the other side? Or a small screwdriver if you want multi-hf-bands while mobile (not as useful for a technician)?
It's a Pulse/Larsen NMO- [27/30/34] B-TLM, missing the ball at the tip. I sold and installed hundreds in the 1980s.

Well if he is thinking about bands other than 10M mobile, I'm not sure where a TECH would transmit, other than 10M...Of course he can advance, but I can't see putting those kind of bucks out, on an unsure amateur radio future...
Techs have HF privileges on 80, 40 and 15m as well (Morse only). Mobile CW is a blast!

Realistically, on the road, something with a SS whip will be the best choice. Anything else tends to be destroyed when it strikes stuff on the road.

Bryan WA7PRC

What in the name of all common sense would a TECH know about code Huh
   Lots of Techs honed their CW skills on HF, because they didn't have voice privileges on the lower HF bands!!
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2016, 04:25:23 AM »

Ten will be dead quiet at night anyway, even in an above average sunspot maximum (not like this mediocre one). That is the nature of the band.
But  then again.
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2016, 05:32:49 PM »

The CB antenna you have mounted on front left fender should work well enough on 10 meters. It can be trimmed for a lower SWR.


Looks more like a dual band 2m/440 antenna to me, which is useful with an 857d. Maybe add a 10m antenna on the other side? Or a small screwdriver if you want multi-hf-bands while mobile (not as useful for a technician)?
In fact, it's a CB antenna- not a Larsen any longer (it's been replaced).
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2016, 05:38:05 PM »

With all due respect, you are a newly licensed TECH, and I have a feeling that most of your operating interests will be on 10 meters, and it appears that tarheel or scorpion antennas are very costly options for what will certainly be only 10m operation..trying a whip on your front bumper as suggested, appears to be a very cost effective antenna to get your feet wet on 10m, a band that is certainly not open all the time...my $.02
Thank you kindly for all your respect.
I'm not too concerned with cost, but more with expandability. I'm a TECH now, but I'm studying for my General, and I'll be going for my extra next summer. I'm also studying CW and hope to be proficient by winter.
And I'm certainly able to listen, and not talk, until my privileges allow.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2016, 05:49:47 PM »

I like this a lot. Seems like I could get a stick for 10, 15, 20, 40, and 80, and use them as my privileges increase. I have a line on a good magnetic mount, so I may put it on a mast between the cab and camper, right side.
I realize it won't be optimal, but I'll likely get something I can set up al la field day for when I'm out and stopped. A mixup, perhaps...

Many thanks to all for the help.

The ATAS-120 mobile antenna might be good for your situation. I had one and it worked well enough on 40-10 meters and the FT-857D autotuning feature was nice. If price is a concern I recommend the MFJ HamTenna mobile antennas at $15 per band.
[/quote]   I have used the HamTennas on bumper or mag mounts with good results!   Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2016, 10:31:13 PM »

I use 10 (not so much now) 20 and 40 Hamsticks (MFJ) on my car, and honestly, they work well enough. I use a well bonded trunk-lip mount. 

A screwdriver would be nice because of the ability to easily switch bands, and some may perform a bit better than hamsticks. However, from what I can tell with a lot of research and looking at tests results posted online, probably not much better. In some circumstances, perhaps not any better at all.

Hamsticks are cheap, they are simple and quick to unscrew and stow-away, and if it breaks, they're only $15 to replace.

Having used them for almost a few years now, I'm in no hurry to run out and by an expensive screwdriver.
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2016, 07:01:37 AM »

Actually, I'm liking this idea a lot more. Screwdriver antennas are pretty cool for the gadget factor, but are expensive and complicated. I'll be working with a welder this weekend or next week to build a base to attach a good, solid mount to, and I'll probably go this route. And it's expandable- I can buy more antennas as needed when I pass my general test, and use it/them on my '91 Nissan pickup as well.

Very helpful, thanks.

I use 10 (not so much now) 20 and 40 Hamsticks (MFJ) on my car, and honestly, they work well enough. I use a well bonded trunk-lip mount. 

A screwdriver would be nice because of the ability to easily switch bands, and some may perform a bit better than hamsticks. However, from what I can tell with a lot of research and looking at tests results posted online, probably not much better. In some circumstances, perhaps not any better at all.

Hamsticks are cheap, they are simple and quick to unscrew and stow-away, and if it breaks, they're only $15 to replace.

Having used them for almost a few years now, I'm in no hurry to run out and by an expensive screwdriver.
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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2016, 08:40:06 AM »

Great - if your mount is good enough, you could always upgrade to a screwdriver later - it's the same 3/8- 24 mount.

I've communicated pretty much all over the world with Hamsticks - Europe, Eastern-Europe, South America, Islands in the Pacific.  Once I responded to a CQ at least a few states away, and forgot to take my 706 MKIIG off of "L" power, so it was only transmitting a few watts, and I received a 5-7 report.  For a cheap mobile antenna they work very well, from my experience.

I have a video showing an initial setup (since been upgraded with more radials, etc) of a hamstick in my backyard (HOA) and communicating with a station 2500+ miles away if you want an example of how well they work:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ezMjG6y2jQ
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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2016, 09:25:42 AM »

Great - if your mount is good enough, you could always upgrade to a screwdriver later - it's the same 3/8- 24 mount.

I've communicated pretty much all over the world with Hamsticks - Europe, Eastern-Europe, South America, Islands in the Pacific.  Once I responded to a CQ at least a few states away, and forgot to take my 706 MKIIG off of "L" power, so it was only transmitting a few watts, and I received a 5-7 report.  For a cheap mobile antenna they work very well, from my experience.

I have a video showing an initial setup (since been upgraded with more radials, etc) of a hamstick in my backyard (HOA) and communicating with a station 2500+ miles away if you want an example of how well they work:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ezMjG6y2jQ

   Nice vid!   I've actually operated with Hamsticks from the INSIDE of hotel rooms as well, set on top of a 5x8 foot piece of aluminum foil covering the floor!  They also work pretty well mounted on balconies or windows.
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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2016, 04:21:09 PM »

Yeah, I've not ruled out screwdrivers, it just seems like there's more "bang for the buck" with hamsticks, so that's the direction I'm headed for now. But I can see a screwdriver in my future, after my proficiency and my privileges increase.
Great video, BTW-your setup is VERY encouraging for a rookie-I'll definitely be trying out your suggestion soon. I've also subscribed to your channel.

Great - if your mount is good enough, you could always upgrade to a screwdriver later - it's the same 3/8- 24 mount.

I've communicated pretty much all over the world with Hamsticks - Europe, Eastern-Europe, South America, Islands in the Pacific.  Once I responded to a CQ at least a few states away, and forgot to take my 706 MKIIG off of "L" power, so it was only transmitting a few watts, and I received a 5-7 report.  For a cheap mobile antenna they work very well, from my experience.

I have a video showing an initial setup (since been upgraded with more radials, etc) of a hamstick in my backyard (HOA) and communicating with a station 2500+ miles away if you want an example of how well they work:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ezMjG6y2jQ

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